You keep saying it but when I look at UK based bookies all I see is Direct Bet being competitive. 

Okay here is 3 random bets for the first weekend of the premier league:

Leicester @ 2.14 v Hull

Man City @ 1.19 v Sunderland

Arsenal @ 2.2 v Liverpool

Feel free to point me to a bookmakers that is more competitive, takes Ether and pays out instantly with no (real) scam complaints. 

You can't accidentally double spend can you?

Outside of outright fraud and lying by the bookmaker, you're not going to innocently find yourself caught up in some double spend argument.

I was paid out another 500 Eth this morning - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x7e368a14f7c7ff74e91a26e3ad3cb85d073c17a3 - it managed to land back in my account without any freezing of the money, double spend allegations, or any other silliness. Just like all my other 5 figure payouts did.

I'd love to see proof of the scam attempts on DirectBet but you need to accept that showing proof sometimes just makes no sense from their side.

The first part is fact; the second is nothing more than speculation.

I run a web business (nothing to do with gambling).   I wouldn't let comparison sites scrape my site either, as I don't think there is any real benefit to being on a site like that, having you chewing up my bandwidth and sending me the worst quality of customers.

If they want to accept in-play bets are they not pretty much forced to deal with the risk of double spend though? Otherwise wouldn't they end up with legitimate bets being declined?

Serious question here - why does it matter to me/you if they fix it or not? 

They're not holding our funds so they can't lose our money.  Worst case they get took on one or two individual bets and they must be more than able to eat the loss on that at this point - they're not going to vanish because someone successfully double spent 10 btc there.

if a completely anonymous bookmaker wants to scam someone because it makes financial sense, they don't need to hide behind double spend. they'll just take your money and there is zero you can do about it.

Every anonymous online bookie is the exact same - they reserve the right to only pay if they feel like it (regardless of past history, or what their T&C say).

re the point of it being inevitable something goes wrong, that is massively offset by not actually having to leave my money on account there.   They can't lose customer held balances, since there aren't any. 

Their system might be flawed but its only me that controls my ETH so there is never going to be a suspicion of double spends on my transactions.  That guy going on about exchanging 5 figures of cash at a party, the sender being unavailable to answer questions, then pretending he was in a different country etc etc, was absolute horse shit.  The only crazy thing there was Direct Bet actually refunded him, I'd have kept it his cash to offset the next successful double spend (either by him or anyone else).  Again if you're not going to try and defraud them I don't see any issues with playing there.   They are honest, and the claims their odds aren't competitive is simply not true as far as I am concerned (soccer bettor)

You lose credibility when you post nonsense like this.

A couple of random games from today:

Direct Bet:
spurs - 4.2 - $100 pays out $420
atletico - 1.8  pays out $180

Paddy Power:
spurs - 16/5 - pays out $420
atletico - 5/6 - pays out $183



Direct Bet:
Bremen - 2.22 - $100 pays out $222
Bets - 2.8 - $100 pays out $280

Paddy Power:
Bremen - 13/10 - $100 pays out $230
Betis - 13/8 - $262




Direct Bet are looking competitive for me here, no?

Sure it was from me but it was in their hands - if they wanted to they could have kept the full lot. They didn't, which makes me think anyone crying about a small wager being stolen from them... they're not telling us the full story.


You're a random 3rd party, Direct Bet are a major BTC bookmaker. They don't owe you an explanation at all. 

I'd like to see one but its pretty obvious why we often won't - showing proof of how they caught the scam, just helps them try a better attempt at it next time and/or encourages someone else to have a go.

Either way, players can pay their money and take their choice.  You can chalk this one up as another successful large payout from Direct Bet in the last 5 mins - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x0bd538b0f6fe553b839dc97b9501e4ac141ca0ad

I can see first hand they process 5 figure payments near instantly.  I can see some single random guy saying they've not paid him 100 Ether. 

There is a complete lack of (legit) scam complaints surrounding DirectBet, and my own experiences show them to be honest. So why wouldn't I continue to bet there?

I'm happy to listen if anyone points me to some credible evidence I shouldn't play there. Right now I can't see that (outside of a couple of likely double spenders)

I'm not going to pay too much notice to someone crying they got scammed out of 100 or so Ether when they're paying me out 10 times that. Why didn't they just scam me?

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

We've yet to see someone posting complaints that doesn't have legitimate looking double spend claims against them.

$10,000+ payment from them today, in my pocket a few minutes after the final whistle blew - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x6dfc69d0f54c490ee1d55277a1896f31f3d5922d

I was hedging bets elsewhere so doesn't paint the full picture but relevant in that people asking about pay outs etc :

https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x6dfc69d0f54c490ee1d55277a1896f31f3d5922d - nearly 1000 ether paid out about 3 minutes after the final whistle blew.

For football I've seen DirectBet offering the same odds as Paddy Power.  For MMA fights sometimes the odds aren't quite so competitive as what would easily be available to me with a 'real' bookmaker back in UK (i.e. pay with my credit card, actually know who i'm gambling with, have recourse if something goes wrong, cant be a hacking bag holder etc etc etc)

Just checking a random game now on DirectBet:

Match Odds
Hull @ 3.25
Leicester @ 2.14
The Draw @ 3.05

on PaddyPower:

Hull 5/2 Draw 9/4 Leicester 21/20

$10 on at 2.14 would return $21.40 with Direct Bet.

$10 on at 21/20 would return $20.50 with Paddy Power

I can't use Betfair from my country.

Over $6000 paid out to me here - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x0e000d70affdd8b421fca7a3a3b5953b287771d7

The only people crying about not being paid are people who have what appear to be legitimate claims of double spending pointed at them.

They're an honest book, but given the anonymous nature of it you should always play with caution as zero recourse if something goes wrong.  Personally I wouldn't bet any long term events here (or with any other anonymous bookmaker) as who knows what happens 1,3,12 months from now. But a sporting event lasting 2 hours?  You'd need to be horribly unlucky if they got hacked or anything else went wrong in that tiny time window.  I've had probably 10 or so 4 figure USD payments from them and they've all been paid out instantly.

I'd happily wager $10k on Leicester to win their game on the weekend with them, bet placed before game starts and if my bet goes well then money back in my hands 105 minutes later.  Would I use them to bet on Leicester to win the league and need to wait 8 months? Probably not.

Currently, there are no Soccer events available for betting.

Please check back later.


i'm getting that on every category, will this be back soon?

That is nonsense. 

If anything mutts are a healthier option - no inbred genetic issues.

Whatever the dog, take it to a vet and have it tested for whatever diseases or issues are common in your country.

Post some proof, or go away.

Post some tips in this thread, before the event(s) happen.

Do this with a winning track record, then you can talk about selling your tips. 

Otherwise you're just another bitcoin scammer.

This is generally why the quality of the posts in these sub forums is awful - its populated by people who can barely read or write in English, or understand the topic they're posting on.  Just gotta keep writing nonsense to increase the post count though !

They're happy hustling a buck or two here and there. Give them $20 and they've won the lottery.

There is nothing wrong with what he's posted.  I work in dog rescue.... boredom, need to exercise more, want more fresh air, want to meet new people, wants to cheer themselves up, etc etc are all perfectly valid reasons to get a dog, as long as you're going to look after it.

btw you likely won't get a pure bred chihuahua for free (and if you do its likely someone giving it away as it has behaviour issues).  But you will be able to get a similar sized dog if thats what you want.  I just rehomed one of that size this week.... no cost to the end adopter at all.  Lovely little friendly thing, only 5 months old, toilet trained & healthy... obviously not a pure bred dog though. Which doesn't actually matter, and can be a positive (far less likely to be stolen)