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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 05:25:26 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions  

I can hear you all.

First plan. Contract with dummy distribution for us to deploy and for you to check if you can access with your private keys first.
ICONOMI can you officially say something about myetherwallet? can we use that for withdraw from our ICO account?We want some official news about myetherwallet,please.

As someone suggested just before we'll put step by step instructions with screenshots for myetherwallet.

U'll follow those instructions and use contract with fictional values to check if all is working OK for you that way.
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 05:18:01 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions 

I can hear you all.

First plan. Contract with dummy distribution for us to deploy and for you to check if you can access with your private keys first.
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:54:39 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

great

I see ur active. Single word as an output, but OK. Does that make sense to you? Or would u suggest anything else?

I think that is a good idea: "great" in one world Smiley


Hahaha good one!

Thx for feedback.
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:53:50 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Team, what if we don't want to withdraw to a certain wallet (I don't trust myetherwallet due to claims at reddit & no space for mist) and keep the balance until it launches on an exchange. Isn't it possible? I seriously don't want to buy additional ether so I can send my coins to an exchange. If this is a must can someone inform me how much ether I would need for a single transaction.

In that case, turn 2FA on. Leave them on ico.iconomi.net and when we unlock the contract transfer them anywhere you want without buying any extra ETH to pay for gas cost. However, keep in mind. We'll charge 1 ICN for sending ICNs out of ico.iconomi.net
205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:52:24 PM
From ICONOMI delay blog post on medium:

Quote
As a substantial number of ICONOMI ICO investors intend to move ICN tokens to exchanges, we do not want to launch into an environment where investors might have to wait an excessive period of time to access ICN tokens; furthermore, this might also hinder the listing of ICN tokens at exchanges.

This is a no sense, first do the genesis then, also after month you can  hit the exchange. Like a lot of project have done in the past years.


Devs are trolling us or are they so unpreparated?

No one is trolling.

Factors you should consider:
- gas/network... least of a problem, but to consider
- unsynced wallets of some users. problem to a certain degree. i have synced one, you might have it too. we had quite some support email with that issue. there are also few posts here regarding that. all users should have same starting position (or close to all)
- people inputting addresses of exchanges / jaxx wallets / who knows what else (see in this thread only). this is worrisome because it can mean that someone might burn ICN completely. and when not burned there will be tons of questions how to get ICNs back.

The last one is where we got caught unprepared. Instructing users how to prepare for ICN.



You should had posted which wallet you recommend that people should use with the pictures you had there on the blog in the first place and something that confirms that you did set it up correctly. If that was done days ago, there would had been less problems.

And the fact that there are so many people with problems, it probably means that alot of people didnt get the message properly or that the guide isn't good enough.

What is wrong with people withdrawing to exchanges? As long as the exchange added Iconomi, it shouldn't be a problem, or should it? Just like withdrawing rep or any other ethereum based coin to polo should be fine as far as I'm concerned. Myetherwallet or mist will probably provide a same type of address anyway. Can you please clarify this?

The problem is no exchange confirmed adding ICN yet. Therefore, there is no 'ICN deposit option' on exchanges yet. So what kind of exchange adresses do you think those users put in their ICN account  ?? Eth ones  ? Btc ones  ?  Those tokens would just end up lost forever..
I wouldn't mind decreasing the supply already but I think those investors would.  Grin

Exchanges will open ICN deposit addresses not more than 24h before launch. U'll be then able to withdraw ICN directly to exchanges once we unlock the contract.
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

great

I see ur active. Single word as an output, but OK. Does that make sense to you? Or would u suggest anything else?
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:37:43 PM
Augur was released. Please release

Doesn't matter when/how Augur was released. If we worry that certain amount of our investors might burn ICN because of wrongly put address it's a thing to consider!
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:34:10 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:26:47 PM
From ICONOMI delay blog post on medium:

Quote
As a substantial number of ICONOMI ICO investors intend to move ICN tokens to exchanges, we do not want to launch into an environment where investors might have to wait an excessive period of time to access ICN tokens; furthermore, this might also hinder the listing of ICN tokens at exchanges.

This is a no sense, first do the genesis then, also after month you can  hit the exchange. Like a lot of project have done in the past years.


Devs are trolling us or are they so unpreparated?

No one is trolling.

Factors you should consider:
- gas/network... least of a problem, but to consider
- unsynced wallets of some users. problem to a certain degree. i have synced one, you might have it too. we had quite some support email with that issue. there are also few posts here regarding that. all users should have same starting position (or close to all)
- people inputting addresses of exchanges / jaxx wallets / who knows what else (see in this thread only). this is worrisome because it can mean that someone might burn ICN completely. and when not burned there will be tons of questions how to get ICNs back.

The last one is where we got caught unprepared. Instructing users how to prepare for ICN.



You should had posted which wallet you recommend that people should use with the pictures you had there on the blog in the first place and something that confirms that you did set it up correctly. If that was done days ago, there would had been less problems.

And the fact that there are so many people with problems, it probably means that alot of people didnt get the message properly or that the guide isn't good enough.

You got that right! Time to fix this. Instructions + way to check if you'll be able to access tokens.
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:23:51 PM
iconomi sites seem problematic, I do not get the code 2FA sms, what anyone has the same events with me


Take a look at your authenticator.
I did not get a sms from 2FA had to wait several hours no sms 2FA code I received, so I can not sign into my account

I dont get sms too, and ICONOMI Just appear at my authenticator

You either set 2FA with authenticator - TOTP. Or you set it to receive via SMS.

There is no "both" option. Because each option comes with it's own risks.
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 04:02:24 PM
From ICONOMI delay blog post on medium:

Quote
As a substantial number of ICONOMI ICO investors intend to move ICN tokens to exchanges, we do not want to launch into an environment where investors might have to wait an excessive period of time to access ICN tokens; furthermore, this might also hinder the listing of ICN tokens at exchanges.

This is a no sense, first do the genesis then, also after month you can  hit the exchange. Like a lot of project have done in the past years.


Devs are trolling us or are they so unpreparated?

No one is trolling.

Factors you should consider:
- gas/network... least of a problem, but to consider
- unsynced wallets of some users. problem to a certain degree. i have synced one, you might have it too. we had quite some support email with that issue. there are also few posts here regarding that. all users should have same starting position (or close to all)
- people inputting addresses of exchanges / jaxx wallets / who knows what else (see in this thread only). this is worrisome because it can mean that someone might burn ICN completely. and when not burned there will be tons of questions how to get ICNs back.

The last one is where we got caught unprepared. Instructing users how to prepare for ICN.

213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 02:52:50 AM
yea i want to trade but zero infos.....
no zero infos, but iconomi team still prepare for a the best they dont want fail with their project, wait and patient is a best way, major exchange will interest to added ICN to their website maybe bittrex is the first place

The ticker isn't "ICN", but "ICNX".

It is ICN.

ICNX is ICONOMI.index which will be CTF - tradable fund.
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 01:52:22 AM
@Jani, and the rest of the ICONOMI team:

Congratulations on a job well done getting us to the launch pad.  Now, to use a traditional astronaut phrase, "Let's light this candle!"

Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Thx for nice words!

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 01:36:31 AM
ICONOMI; JANI:

You were probably too busy to notice that there is a geth update available that will fix the sync issue.

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

Install this and issue done for mist and etherwallet
The release which fixed it was "dear diary: 1.4.16 four days ago, another update just today further enhances it.


Thx for this! I updated.

However, we were getting quite some emails to support regarding sync issues therefore we decided to postpone launch. Plus gas limit.. which I'm still not sure if it's an issue or not. But better 48h late than sorry.
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 01:01:34 AM
Thank you iconomi, i got bounties from facebook and twitter.

Anyone here managed to send their icn from ico site to their eth wallet? I want to ask first before trying to move my tokens. Thanks

Dude, you can't move your tokens to an ETH wallet yet. Don't forget to have some ETH change in the wallet or else you can't dump it in an exchange.

Don't worry i currently don't have any plans to sell my tokens that is why i want to move my icn to my wallet instead of waiting for an exchange and sent it directly from ico site. Thanks for the answer
Have all bounties been issued already?
Still haven't received my bounty rewards Huh

When you enter the watchtoken address into the wallet, it will reveal the tokens in that wallet.
Until they release the watchtoken address, nothing will move. By the time they do, they will have already sent the tokens to said ETH address if one was entered into iconomi site.

Deanero:
Bounty rewards are complete. If you had been monitoring, or bothered reading the thread since your last visit, you wouldn't be asking. All were given a chance to file a complaint if mistakenly marked as a spambot.
Sorry man. You snoozed on that one.

I filled the form in good time, have been in contact with Sladana who assured me my issue is okay and not to worry.

I have been following the thread, which is why I am so concerned now.

My blogs are#400 &#416 in the list, both awarded 60 stakes each. My steemit account, deanero is my account.

All the requirements are there.

Check for yourself.

This is why I sent a complaint form. And this is why I am concerned, because I have not been awarded the bounty I earned.

Talk to Sladana tomorrow.
But please do NOT post any bounty discussion here anymore. Use Telegram group or write to Sladana directly. Bounties are over and we can not have bounty bounty bounty discussion here all the time. We finished that chapter here. Now we're onto content side. If we left you out we'll fix that. But please do NOT post here about bounties anymore.
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 12:23:34 AM
NEW BLOG POST



ICONOMI ICO TOKEN SHARE CALCULATION FINALISED

https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-ico-token-share-calculation-finalised-9747e69d496d

Calculations are now final. Keep in mind. BTC is now going up, LSK down. That does not affect shares, since shares are calculated with average weighted prices for the last 72h of ICO. Read more in blog. Thank you guys!
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 10, 2016, 08:49:25 PM
BLOG POST ABOUT BOUNTIES


This is final word about bounties from ICONOMI.

To discuss bounties use this channel https://telegram.me/iconomiicobounties


https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-ico-bounty-distribution-71e763cf8346

So can you provide the material?  If 1 person will recieve 25k usd and over 200k ICN for his dedication, I really want to see what it is, this is a huge amount of money for 1 month of bounties.

Please read the whole blog post. If you do you will know. Thank you.
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 10, 2016, 08:44:04 PM
BLOG POST ABOUT BOUNTIES


This is final word about bounties from ICONOMI.

To discuss bounties use this channel https://telegram.me/iconomiicobounties


https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-ico-bounty-distribution-71e763cf8346
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 10, 2016, 06:26:37 PM
They have resolved also my identity teft problem.

It was just a mistake, no one has teft my identity.

Happy to know that , but unappy for the false warning i get from one of their devs.This is a crypto world if someone has access to your id documents your system is broken, this is a "format all" option. It can't be comunicated for error. I was close to hard format 3 online pc and also the 2 i have offline.





Jani here. If you read your post again you will understand why I kicked you out of the channel. Be kind and all will be OK. Thank you.

Jani was a big misunderstanding all. i know this are crazy days, a lot of support mail and any kind of problems.

But please you have to admit that the  kik from telegram was too much. i was in trouble looking for help. I have also told you about the identity teft and you kik me? lol

Now all is resolved, no one has taken my identity and my account was unblocked. But i'm waiting for a "sorry it was a mistake" from you,  i'm a kind person, did you?

You were posting in ICONOMI ICO ur support related issues. I will always try to keep channel clean (just removing unrelated content first, and if it's persistent then ban is needed) - you have to understand that. However, I'll let u back in right now.

However, I'm sorry for whole situation. You were wrongly flagged - it doesn't happen often, but sometimes it does. . But I'm not sorry for kicking u out of telegram ico group. I think that was needed.  Just as much as it's needed to unban u know.
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