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20101  Other / Meta / How can we protect Newbies from getting scammed? on: February 20, 2019, 06:49:26 PM
Scenario
Someone has a problem with a wallet, comes to Bitcointalk, creates an account, asks a question, and gets a solution. Great! A happy new user for the forum, and another happy Bitcoin user, which adds to Bitcoin's popularity.

Reality (2 days ago)
Someone has a problem with a wallet, comes to Bitcointalk, creates an account, asks a question, gets "help" by PM from someone who asks him to enter some code into Electrum, enter his password (and I quote: "(NEVER share this password with anybody)"), and gets scammed out of $30,000.
Another clueless naive new user bites the dust, the forum loses a new user, and Bitcoin loses a potential user forever.


How can we prevent this? Wallets aren't always easy, not all Bitcoin users are tech savvy, scammers are smart and creative, and if we want Bitcoin(talk) to grow in the right direction, these things kinda just shouldn't happen at all. I know that's utopia, and we can't prevent all scams from happening, but we could do more than this, right?
What would work? Disable receiving PMs? If they can't PM, they'll post their email address so that doesn't help.
More warnings for new users? A warning PM for every few first posts they make?


I'm not sure if this topic is going to help, but I had to get it off my chest.
20102  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Member Coolserver.host ripped me on: February 20, 2019, 06:28:11 PM
Quoting for screenshots:


There's a (Dutch) name in his email address. That may be fake, or it may be real if he didn't plan on scamming anyone but took the opportunity when you offered it.
If it's his real name, it might be useful to track him down.
His username is a domain name, that may help too.

I've archived Coolserver.host's post history:
https://archive.is/AgzKu
https://archive.is/bFUlP
https://archive.is/ouzyv
https://archive.is/BjeLb
https://archive.is/pxezc
20103  Economy / Reputation / Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★ on: February 20, 2019, 05:52:01 PM
I'm not voting for several reason:
  • If marlboroza doesn't want to be on DT1, why would we force him?
  • There's absolutely no point being on DT1 if a user has no custom trust list.
  • His (great) scam busting can continue on DT2, which is where he is now.
  • One of his reasons for wanting to leave DT1 was the drama around it, this poll isn't helping.
20104  Economy / Reputation / Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source on: February 20, 2019, 05:39:29 PM
Frozen Storage BIP Lockdown Mode BIP
Description : An idea regarding "cold" address type with ability to prevent coins stealing. There are lots of flaws, but we can tell there's effort on it.
Category : share technical improvement/upgrade
Section : Development & Technical Discussion
Lots of flaws is an understatement Tongue It goes against many things Bitcoin stands for. But it's a new user who isn't a spammer, so I've merited him. I've also merited the second post in that thread:
"hard fork can correct the issue by"

WTF

VanitySearch (Yet another address prefix finder)
Description : a vanity address generator software (which made by OP obviously), i haven't tested it though
Category : sharing open source software
Section : Development & Technical Discussion
I'm afraid meriting this post can be confused with endorsing it. It deserves Merit as it's clearly not a spammer, but I'm paranoid on trusting unknown software for creating private keys.
20105  Economy / Reputation / Re: Remove marlboroza (me, me) from DT2 on: February 20, 2019, 05:09:58 PM
Errr...on side note, you might want to PM klintay, I see some strange DT negative on your trust wall.
While we're on the subject: I noticed that too. klintay is included by Dabs.
For future reference: he left red trust "busy body who worries more about other people than himself. stay in your lane! " with a Reference link to this post.
I don't think this is appropriate use of red trust. I'm hoping he'll see his wrong and remove it, or maybe Dabs excludes him. I'm not instantly excluding him, but I will if this doesn't get resolved soon.
20106  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Member Coolserver.host ripped me on: February 20, 2019, 11:48:26 AM
0100000001d393bd9ec0ae669023ed698a6779fc76a9ec896cee18c9b1ff5a4aeefd2022c200000 0001976a9149cbb4f2710d94e57fb30cf4a65b7f721f3091f0f88acffffffff01e040ef2b000000 001976a91406af5a334371ee5eaf7f2efbc6551b155581954f88ac00000000
https://coinb.in/#verify brings me to this 7.37 BTC transaction.

So my guess is:
He knew which addresses were yours, then he sent you a raw unsigned transaction. You signed it, broadcasted it, and gave $30k away Shocked



It's too late for you, but as a general warning: you should never execute any code you don't understand on your computer!


The number of people keeping tens of thousands of dollars in an Electrum hot wallet also surprises me. Those wallets are just waiting to get scammed!


Following the money, it ended up here, here, and here. Together with other inputs, it's now spread out over many addresses holding exactly 0.256 BTC. The money is probably mixed by ChipMixer, and you'll never find it back Sad

All that's left for you is to provide evidence that Coolserver.host is behind it, but considering he's a Newbie, that account has no value to him anyway.
20107  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcointalk.org collectible coin? on: February 20, 2019, 10:25:10 AM
I'm not a collector, but a Bitcointalk coin somehow sounds very attractive. Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.

I’d also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea.
BIP38 can limit the risk, if only the receiver knows the password and the encrypted key gets engraved.
20108  Other / Meta / Re: Thread Printing on: February 20, 2019, 10:11:23 AM
Maybe theymos can enable this (again?) since long page of texts isn't much of a resource hog.
Wall Observer disagrees Tongue Clearly, there should be a limit, but I too often miss this feature for long threads.
"Show all" is so convenient to CTRL-F something. I usually end up scraping the thread (or someone's post history) to search the raw text.

Update: it won't give you a printer-friendly format, but I made this for searching big threads: "Show All" on long topics.
20109  Other / Meta / Re: This Is NOT A New Problem... A Walk Down Memory Lane on: February 20, 2019, 10:07:35 AM
What do you think about splitting the scam rating, with a "warning" rating for scammed previously OR you strongly believe that they will scam in the future, and a "scammer" rating for scammed previously AND you strongly believe that they will scam in the future?
I'm trying to decide which rating I would have used for my past ratings, and I think this leaves a large gray area.
A new user who posts this for example hasn't scammed anyone, although I'm certain it's just the next alt-account made by a scammer, and it's obviously a scam waiting to happen. But technically he hasn't "scammed previously" until a victim shows up.

A few DTs tag account sellers/buyers, I'm curious if they'd use the lesser warning for this if it's possible.



I wouldn't mind getting more feedback (pun intended) on the feedback I've left. I think I'm doing the right thing, but some feedback from upper management wouldn't hurt.
20110  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Announcing BPIP - The Bitcointalk Public Information Project! on: February 19, 2019, 08:20:19 PM
Did BPIP stop updating modlog-data? This user for instance had many posts deleted, but BPIP only shows 1 deleted post.
20111  Other / Meta / Re: [CLUB] The SpamBuster! Over 7000+ accounts reviewed : [23.11] on: February 19, 2019, 08:17:46 PM
The OP CMNP is multiposting on almost every reply he makes
I've reported many posts, and many have been deleted.

They've now switched to a fake conversation with a bump bot on page 8. User a.govoronov asks typical dumb questions in almost all of his posts.

Updated spam-stats:
    1. 62x CMNP (BPIP)
    2. 34x a.govoronov (BPIP)
    3. 20x Akachetkova (BPIP)
    4. 7x gambit1221 (BPIP)
    5. 6x pumperboy (BPIP)
    6. 5x rorri1488 (BPIP)
    7. 4x LoyceV (1896 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    8. 4x Alexander Navas (BPIP)
    9. 2x sockpuppet1911 (16 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   10. 2x Breashaq (BPIP)
   11. 2x andulolika (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   12. 2x dzonikg28 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   13. 2x MasternodeInvest (BPIP)
   14. 2x mitzie (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   15. 2x Twinkledoe (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   16. 1x electronicash (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   17. 1x vanchain (BPIP)
   18. 1x Denreal (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   19. 1x tranthidung (191 Merit earned) (BPIP)
   20. 1x mihohil (BPIP)
20112  Economy / Reputation / Re: A question about hacked/sold account of @Apriand on: February 19, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
I hope other scammers will also appeal their case using this as an example, Embarrassed
I tag scammers, no worries there.
But I don't think Apriand is a scammer:
I was busy that time, and need money to pay my loan with Parodium. Then someone call me in telegram (he is from my country) to help me. He give me little money to pay back my loan but he want that account under his control for a month.
He made a dumb choice that screwed him over big time, but he did it to pay back his loan. That doesn't sound like a scammer to me.

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So its okay to sell the account on financial needs Huh
According to forum rules: yes, but it's "frowned upon". I don't think frowning justifies red trust in all cases.
20113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto Monopoly on: February 19, 2019, 01:46:39 PM
Hasbro might be interested that their brand is used illegally for making money.
I've notified them already.
20114  Economy / Reputation / Re: A question about hacked/sold account of @Apriand on: February 19, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
But for this case, the owner of the account is self-admitted account seller.
He's been punished for that by losing access to his account for several months.

but i think this guy made a great mistake by giving someone access to his account.
I'm hoping he learned his lesson. I'm all for second chances.
20115  Economy / Reputation / Re: A question about hacked/sold account of @Apriand on: February 19, 2019, 12:01:46 PM
Surprisingly DTs are removing their feedback also.
That is what I said I would do:
I'll leave red trust on the account, which I'll remove when either the real owner signs a message to prove he regained control, or when the account buyer can sign a message proving he bought the private key to the staked address with the account.
Reminder to myself: when removing the red trust, I'll leave neutral trust as a reminder the account was temporarily under someone else's control.
The forum's recovery team decided to recover the account for the owner. I see no reason to go against that.

I think our DT members should reconsider this matter before removing their red tag from that account.
My red tags are reserved for scammers.
20116  Other / Meta / Re: Now Apriand isnt me on: February 19, 2019, 09:51:37 AM
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I'm Apriand from bitcointalk.org. Today is February 19, 2019.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1GwqXVkMYGqGwcEdr3eqNoXnWHEbjdqCL4
H2on1bRDTCNGfx/snNW+/A7aT/SYHK4c74yb2wUSGpl0alsQPjYu6lIFaqlmDbHiPBkATot16n1QRmPOZnUCmPw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Confirmed! Welcome back Smiley

I've left a neutral tag as reference. You may want to remove all posts that you didn't make, so you won't get banned for plagiarism later on.
20117  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - 20% Rakeback Christmas Bonus - Most trusted Bitcoin Dice site on: February 19, 2019, 07:12:10 AM
Investor Stats: Bankroll: 12.06665726 BTC.
Right after the ICO, BetKing wanted to have the highest max profit per bet from all online Bitcoin casinos. It looks like the bankroll now comes from investors only.
20118  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk is Dying? on: February 18, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
Stats haven't been updated for a while, and the averages are all-time averages.
Basically, it's wrong.

To give a more accurate example: Yesterday (Dutch time) 17905 posts were created by 6112 users. I might have missed a few users, I failed scraping 13 of those posts, but the result is pretty accurate.
This number doesn't include online users who read but didn't post.

To answer your question: Bitcointalk isn't dying.
20119  Other / Meta / Re: Updated: Merit Backscratchers: who scratched who's back the most? on: February 18, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
I was wondering how your algorithm considers who is scratching the back of whom?  Which member to put first?  Is there a ordering of merits that causes which member goes first on the backscratcher list?
The newest account is mentioned first.

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Also, if the "alleged" backscratching member waits a week or two to merit scratch the back of the other member, it should still be caught in the algorithm, right?
It's the result of all Merits ever sent between 2 users. It doesn't matter when it happened.
20120  Other / Meta / Re: [parody] Merit Backstabbers: who stabbed who in the back the most? on: February 18, 2019, 06:13:02 PM
Merit Backstabbers update (3 weeks later)

     1. 373 Merit: The Pharmacist 1460/1095 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
     2. 348 Merit: abhiseshakana 664/285 (history) right dbshck 151/6874 (history)
     3. 268 Merit: o_e_l_e_o 1217/657 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
     4. 264 Merit: Foxpup 315/5297 (history) left theymos 3863/968 (history)
     5. 239 Merit: LoyceV 1896/2584 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
     6. 219 Merit: suchmoon 1602/10685 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
     7. 218 Merit: mu_enrico 522/245 (history) right dbshck 151/6874 (history)
     8. 215 Merit: roycilik 525/265 (history) right dbshck 151/6874 (history)
     9. 204 Merit: mole0815 560/357 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    10. 198 Merit: Husna QA 469/286 (history) right dbshck 151/6874 (history)
    11. 162 Merit: chimk 217/4147 (history) left Goran_ 364/159 (history)
    12. 158 Merit: Hhampuz 653/408 (history) right TMAN 864/3227 (history)
    13. 154 Merit: o_e_l_e_o 1217/657 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    14. 145 Merit: LoyceV 1896/2584 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    15. 145 Merit: Alex_Sr 539/269 (history) right xandry 83/1340 (history)
    16. 144 Merit: zazarb 482/212 (history) right Southpaw0 10/154 (history)
    17. 141 Merit: taikuri13 416/190 (history) right chimk 217/4147 (history)
    18. 138 Merit: morvillz7z 362/180 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    19. 134 Merit: marlboroza 655/463 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    20. 133 Merit: hilariousetc 1347/526 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    21. 131 Merit: The Pharmacist 1460/1095 (history) right TMAN 864/3227 (history)
    22. 131 Merit: 1miau 412/201 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    23. 131 Merit: DdmrDdmr 1721/1200 (history) right paxmao 326/2416 (history)
    24. 130 Merit: xtraelv 992/495 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    25. 130 Merit: DdmrDdmr 1721/1200 (history) right TMAN 864/3227 (history)
    26. 126 Merit: coinlocket$ 665/187 (history) right Micio 198/1227 (history)
    27. 126 Merit: Veleor 322/101 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    28. 126 Merit: micgoossens 1447/726 (history) right BobLawblaw 770/1482 (history)
    29. 123 Merit: chimk 217/4147 (history) left igor72 184/43 (history)
    30. 117 Merit: Jet Cash 995/1349 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    31. 116 Merit: Scheede 239/117 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    32. 113 Merit: The Pharmacist 1460/1095 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    33. 113 Merit: aundroid 229/36 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    34. 110 Merit: BobLawblaw 770/1482 (history) left Last of the V8s 1324/729 (history)
    35. 110 Merit: esmanthra 408/556 (history) right xandry 83/1340 (history)
    36. 109 Merit: Moloch 212/160 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
    37. 109 Merit: DdmrDdmr 1721/1200 (history) right Welsh 421/1716 (history)
    38. 108 Merit: trantute2 232/115 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    39. 107 Merit: Flying Hellfish 410/1961 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
    40. 105 Merit: Lauda 832/371 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
    41. 101 Merit: Jet Cash 995/1349 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
    42. 101 Merit: BobLawblaw 770/1482 (history) left xhomerx10 934/661 (history)
    43. 101 Merit: pandukelana2712 368/224 (history) right dbshck 151/6874 (history)
    44. 100 Merit: mprep 256/730 (history) left theymos 3863/968 (history)
    45. 98 Merit: DdmrDdmr 1721/1200 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    46. 98 Merit: Paolo.Demidov 176/23 (history) right Micio 198/1227 (history)
    47. 98 Merit: micgoossens 1447/726 (history) right LFC_Bitcoin 455/1281 (history)
    48. 95 Merit: ETFbitcoin 546/716 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    49. 94 Merit: QWeB 128/52 (history) right chimk 217/4147 (history)
    50. 94 Merit: Piggy 900/436 (history) right Micio 198/1227 (history)
    51. 91 Merit: bitmover 639/312 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    52. 89 Merit: Lafu 404/230 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    53. 89 Merit: gbianchi 181/37 (history) right Micio 198/1227 (history)
    54. 89 Merit: iasenko 745/371 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    55. 88 Merit: tmfp 234/120 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    56. 86 Merit: Jet Cash 995/1349 (history) right TMAN 864/3227 (history)
    57. 85 Merit: Coolcryptovator 486/243 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    58. 84 Merit: kenzawak 475/227 (history) right Halab 141/1362 (history)
    59. 83 Merit: chimk 217/4147 (history) left poptop 331/249 (history)
    60. 82 Merit: Gothorum 174/98 (history) right freemind1 13/147 (history)
    61. 81 Merit: leonello 179/86 (history) right chimk 217/4147 (history)
    62. 81 Merit: chimk 217/4147 (history) left Xal0lex 327/141 (history)
    63. 80 Merit: paxmao 326/2416 (history) left seoincorporation 290/178 (history)
    64. 75 Merit: Carlton Banks 520/241 (history) right Foxpup 315/5297 (history)
    65. 74 Merit: LibertValance 154/79 (history) right qwk 800/3476 (history)
    66. 73 Merit: Real14Hero 76/61 (history) right stingers 13/458 (history)
    67. 73 Merit: esmanthra 408/556 (history) right chimk 217/4147 (history)
    68. 73 Merit: CryptonikaTrade 75/3 (history) right rorschach1 3/88 (history)
    69. 72 Merit: chimk 217/4147 (history) left imhoneer 117/76 (history)
    70. 72 Merit: BarkingHawk 90/50 (history) right SparkyU 6/80 (history)
    71. 72 Merit: Halab 141/1362 (history) left Saint-loup 176/112 (history)
    72. 72 Merit: krogothmanhattan 845/944 (history) right Flying Hellfish 410/1961 (history)
    73. 71 Merit: asche 444/154 (history) right oscar2000 31/141 (history)
    74. 70 Merit: LoyceV 1896/2584 (history) right TMAN 864/3227 (history)
    75. 70 Merit: arulbero 279/152 (history) right Micio 198/1227 (history)
    76. 69 Merit: TryNinja 512/223 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    77. 68 Merit: xtraelv 992/495 (history) right Vod 984/2904 (history)
    78. 67 Merit: Last of the V8s 1324/729 (history) right QuestionAuthority 365/3366 (history)
    79. 67 Merit: zazarb 482/212 (history) right bitkilo 10/190 (history)
    80. 67 Merit: theyoungmillionaire 578/261 (history) right TMAN 864/3227 (history)
    81. 66 Merit: suchmoon 1602/10685 (history) left stompix 385/108 (history)
    82. 64 Merit: roslinpl 139/262 (history) left theymos 3863/968 (history)
    83. 64 Merit: asche 444/154 (history) right Halab 141/1362 (history)
    84. 64 Merit: coinlocket$ 665/187 (history) right suchmoon 1602/10685 (history)
    85. 64 Merit: paxmao 326/2416 (history) left Zarg0n 110/24 (history)
    86. 63 Merit: johhnyUA 153/164 (history) right Vadi2323 33/370 (history)
    87. 63 Merit: BobLawblaw 770/1482 (history) left jojo69 600/338 (history)
    88. 63 Merit: jillscarbrough 228/109 (history) right dbshck 151/6874 (history)
    89. 63 Merit: suchmoon 1602/10685 (history) right bitpop 45/156 (history)
    90. 62 Merit: Coin++ 192/111 (history) right ZenFr 43/207 (history)
    91. 62 Merit: bones261 331/2654 (history) left Toxic2040 485/243 (history)
    92. 61 Merit: suchmoon 1602/10685 (history) left Vod 984/2904 (history)
    93. 61 Merit: 1miau 412/201 (history) right phantastisch 236/380 (history)
    94. 61 Merit: minefarmbuy 84/41 (history) right frodocooper 70/1633 (history)
    95. 60 Merit: hakka 136/64 (history) right Anon11073 27/341 (history)
    96. 60 Merit: EFS 183/2296 (history) left theymos 3863/968 (history)
    97. 60 Merit: chimk 217/4147 (history) left kzv 124/74 (history)
    98. 60 Merit: micgoossens 1447/726 (history) right Globb0 241/776 (history)
    99. 59 Merit: Coding Enthusiast 451/44 (history) right theymos 3863/968 (history)
   100. 59 Merit: AverageGlabella 262/106 (history) right Welsh 421/1716 (history)

See https://loyce.club/other/Backstabbers2.html for the full list (6474 entries).
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