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2041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 02, 2017, 05:11:55 PM
In other news Kraken takes on XMR:

http://blog.kraken.com/post/155126375697/kraken-launches-monero-trading

EDIT: And we just jumped over $15
2042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 02, 2017, 05:04:27 PM
And the fluffypony world tour has only just started... 

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The Trip

2016-12-26 to 2017-01-01: Hamburg, Germany, for 33c3 (not being funded, for my own costs)
2017-01-01 to 2017-01-05: Amsterdam, The Netherlands, I'll be talking at Bitcoin Wednesday on 2017-01-04
2017-01-06 to 2017-01-09: San Francisco, USA, I'll be talking at Coinbase (note: not open to public attendance) on 2017-01-06, and I'll be at the Monero Silicon Valley Meetup on 2017-01-07
2017-01-10 to 2017-01-16: Florida, USA, where the wife and I will take a few day's break and explore the Keys (not being funded, for my own costs)
2017-01-16 to 2017-01-20: Miami, USA, where I'll be talking at The North American Bitcoin Conference on 2017-01-17 / 2017-01-18
2017-01-20 to 2017-01-30: Secret Location, where I'll once again be representing Monero at the Satoshi Roundtable (note: not open to public attendance)

https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/87018/fluffypony-s-conference-circuit-jan-2017-edition

He is doing a brilliant PR job.  I hope he has a huge stash of XMR to reward him when his work bears the fruit we all hope for.
2043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 02, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Interesting news - just spreading the word:

http://www.prunderground.com/gui-wallet-released-by-monero-as-underground-banks-in-china-wait-to-ditch-bitcoin-mid-january/0084114/

Can't vouch for its truth, but it won't hurt - and we're over $200 million market cap now....

Smiley
2044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 02, 2017, 04:50:32 PM
Saw this on BTC Wall Observer....

Can't hurt XMR:

http://www.prunderground.com/gui-wallet-released-by-monero-as-underground-banks-in-china-wait-to-ditch-bitcoin-mid-january/0084114/

 Smiley
2045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 02, 2017, 01:20:56 PM
XMR rises with BTC also because some traders speculate with a BTC correction soon, so they do not leave XMR for BTC. When the BTC correction happens, I think the XMR price will go further up in USD also as other will want to protect their gains made with BTC.

As I type....

It's the only major alt on Polo in the green (albeit just) in the 24 hours since before before BTC broke the 1000.

That is totally incredible.

2046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 01, 2017, 09:23:53 PM
Happy 4 digit New Year to everyone!

At last.
2047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 01, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
magicmexican used to be awesome Sad he was the first to identify very clear dinosaur patterns on charts.

Yeah - I was wondering if it was the same guy.  I mentioned it and he didn't say a peep.  Used to be a bit more.... fun, IIRC


EDIT C'mon honeybadger - let's start 2017 with a bang.  Stamp in the 990's too....  This time?
2048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: December 31, 2016, 04:00:36 PM
Forgive me for asking here, but I can't see any reference to this on other Monero threads or stack exchange for an issue I have.

The Mac OSX download for the GUI on Get Monero fails - tried three times and it only 'part' downloads.

Are there other links for getting it, or has anyone had the same problem?

You can try the Github link(s):

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-core/releases

Did it via a laptop and am working on it now - seems ok so far.

Happy New Year!
2049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 31, 2016, 03:40:34 PM
Nice price action - someone wants a lot of XMR....

 Smiley

I can't blame him/her.

I wonder if the same actor pumped and then sold - there were some large 4000 and 6000 buys and sells in there.

Of course I don't mind, it's nice to see 5% fluctuations in very short time periods - it means people keep an eye and there is good liquidity for large movers.   It also means it's worth day trading and market making.

Also, I get to keep my stash level and still average down a little although the price is way above what my average buy is.



I wonder why would someone buy 10 000 xmr and a few minutes later sell them? Doesn't make any sense to me at least.
Sure it is nice to have some action but personally I would like to skip the dumping part of the action.
What if there was an entity or a combination of entities just hoarding all the Moneros from the markets and refuse to sell any of them? Those basically could make Monero great and bring the price of XMR to millions. After all, if the markets are liquid enough, there is no reason for a bitcoin maximalists to switch to Monero maximalism and dump all their bitcoins into the tiny XMR markets.

There weren't many on the sell side.  Then, upon the rise up the sell side filled in under the price, also a bit of movement may have brought more money into increase the rise.  Selling back may have upped the income from the move - hard to say of course, but it's possible.

As for making Monero great for us - why would anyone do that?   I think the lack of coins available and the good liquidity means XMR is attractive and that is why we are at the top of the Alts tree.

Ending the year at this kind of level (comfortably over $10) is huge.  Monero is a real contender and here to stay - anyone needing a balanced portfolio of crypto must have at least considered XMR and I have always thought another run to the ATH or more is lilkely for Spring 2017.  What I did not think was we would end this year at this level - I am a happy Hodler*.

*Of course the unfortunate boating accident where I lost most of my XMR means I have far less than I did

I would speculate that is was the same person, testing the market to see where the supply and rdemand levels are, and shaking the tree a little in the process. The costs of the exploration (if any) are probably well worth it for the data gathered (not to mention that some of the trading will be into their own bids and offers)

just a little bit of probing before the next move ...  Wink

A pleasing analysis.

Happy New Year, Sir Smiley
2050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: December 31, 2016, 03:14:47 PM
Forgive me for asking here, but I can't see any reference to this on other Monero threads or stack exchange for an issue I have.

The Mac OSX download for the GUI on Get Monero fails - tried three times and it only 'part' downloads.

Are there other links for getting it, or has anyone had the same problem?

You can try the Github link(s):

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-core/releases

Same issue - they probably point to the same server.  Getting 'failed' about half way through each time - no other problems I see on my computer.

I will try from another machine when I get a chance. Thanks for trying to help.
2051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: December 31, 2016, 02:07:16 PM
Forgive me for asking here, but I can't see any reference to this on other Monero threads or stack exchange for an issue I have.

The Mac OSX download for the GUI on Get Monero fails - tried three times and it only 'part' downloads.

Are there other links for getting it, or has anyone had the same problem?
2052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 31, 2016, 12:57:52 PM

I am not sure it worked like that historically, i still remember months and months of bear market after any slight news from the Chinese Gov

And I remember your dinosaur charts  Smiley

2053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 31, 2016, 12:53:01 PM
Nice price action - someone wants a lot of XMR....

 Smiley

I can't blame him/her.

I wonder if the same actor pumped and then sold - there were some large 4000 and 6000 buys and sells in there.

Of course I don't mind, it's nice to see 5% fluctuations in very short time periods - it means people keep an eye and there is good liquidity for large movers.   It also means it's worth day trading and market making.

Also, I get to keep my stash level and still average down a little although the price is way above what my average buy is.



I wonder why would someone buy 10 000 xmr and a few minutes later sell them? Doesn't make any sense to me at least.
Sure it is nice to have some action but personally I would like to skip the dumping part of the action.
What if there was an entity or a combination of entities just hoarding all the Moneros from the markets and refuse to sell any of them? Those basically could make Monero great and bring the price of XMR to millions. After all, if the markets are liquid enough, there is no reason for a bitcoin maximalists to switch to Monero maximalism and dump all their bitcoins into the tiny XMR markets.

There weren't many on the sell side.  Then, upon the rise up the sell side filled in under the price, also a bit of movement may have brought more money into increase the rise.  Selling back may have upped the income from the move - hard to say of course, but it's possible.

As for making Monero great for us - why would anyone do that?   I think the lack of coins available and the good liquidity means XMR is attractive and that is why we are at the top of the Alts tree.

Ending the year at this kind of level (comfortably over $10) is huge.  Monero is a real contender and here to stay - anyone needing a balanced portfolio of crypto must have at least considered XMR and I have always thought another run to the ATH or more is lilkely for Spring 2017.  What I did not think was we would end this year at this level - I am a happy Hodler*.



*Of course the unfortunate boating accident where I lost most of my XMR means I have far less than I did
2054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 31, 2016, 12:21:09 PM
Nice price action - someone wants a lot of XMR....

 Smiley

I can't blame him/her.

I wonder if the same actor pumped and then sold - there were some large 4000 and 6000 buys and sells in there.

Of course I don't mind, it's nice to see 5% fluctuations in very short time periods - it means people keep an eye and there is good liquidity for large movers.   It also means it's worth day trading and market making.

Also, I get to keep my stash level and still average down a little although the price is way above what my average buy is.

2055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 31, 2016, 10:03:08 AM
Nice price action - someone wants a lot of XMR....

 Smiley
2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 31, 2016, 09:12:42 AM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?

it has been done already, scroll up between 1 and 3 pages, can't remember.



thx for your input on the T/A chart but you make a few assumptions i wouldnt be 100% sure about
the august bagholders may not be the current sellers since the price tanked very low in september oct,nov etc and
people maybe have doubled their money and then some by buying in thiose months of epic crashdom .....

i thin its still a good bit too early for xmr to bloom and people who got biten by the last OASIS and ALPAHABAY scam wont be so
quick to throw millions of dollars into the fire again so easily ,at least until we get some more real use cases ......

Scam?

Do you mean the price rise associated with the news of XMR adoption?

Because your use of 'scam' seems to be aimed at XMR.  Oasis may have been an exit scam - but I doubt much (if any) XMR were lost. One small dark market disappeared (with punters BTC). So?

And Alphabay just opened up the dark markets to XMR, not sure how that qualifies as a scam, either.

Care to explain what you meant?



oasis and alphabay buys up all the cheap xmr
then they go public and announce their news
even went so far as to advise their customers to stock up on xmr for future purchases
customers bought xmr up to near $16 iirc
oasis ran away with everybodys money and alphabay faked a wallet problem and monero was unusable for awhile
these factors resulted in severe losses for lots of their customers
i would call that a scam but you could also say it was a tragic set of unforeseen circumstances which occured naturally at worst possible timing
your choice....

(btw i like monero and i am a signifigant hodler,i am not blaming the coin itself for the actions of the guilty in case it sounded like that)

I think Alphabay were / are perhaps genuinely interested - and I cannot know how they might have benefited - but pre GUI it was badly implemented at first.  Oasis was an exit scam, yes, but it is hard to know if much or any XMR was lost, other than in speculation around the announcement.

But thank you for clearing up this wasn't a scam of XMR's making, which is what I sought.  Like you I hold XMR, so I don't want fresh eyes looking at XMR to think we (those who support XMR on here) approve, or were complicit in any scams.

We can't blame XMR for how XMR is used, even if it is used for dubious financial gains. 

It boils down to this being insider trading on the part of Alphabay and because nothing is "really" regulated in crypto who's going to do anything about it? And, let's be honest, what would you expect from a darknet market place. They know they are going to announce using XMR and in the meantime they buy a pretty good stash in stealth mode at very low prices, make the announcement, encourage vendors to stock up and we end up with an ATH and they make some serious cash.  If you were running even a legal business online you may do something similar given the opportunity.

Sure, I cannot argue with that, this is crypto after all and nothing would surprise me.  I just wanted to be clear whatever exchanges did was not down to Monero. 

Also - potential gains made by Alphabay aside - the benefits of XMR's anonymity was probably why it was picked, it does make sense for DNM to use the best anon currency after all.

2057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: December 30, 2016, 07:36:37 PM

I see moneromooo is already at it, Monero devs are amazing.

Pool mining would really be a nice and convenient feature in GUI. However, I do agree with xmr-eric's comment on there:

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Personally, I don't like this feature, and feel we shouldn't include it. Pool mining is the one page in the wallet where we're suddenly relying on a third party. What qualifies a pool to be added to this list? Certainly cryptmonero.com isn't included since this pool is tied to Reddit-reported malware mining. So there is already a distinction between good and bad pools, and suddenly our devs are tasked with making that distinction. Suddenly our work begins to grow exponentially, especially if XMR really takes off and a hundred new pools appear and have to be evaluated. Who does the evaluating and what is the criteria?

Suddenly pool operators have an incentive to get in good graces with XMR devs? Already we can see MoneroWorld (where I personally mine, so I love it there) is at the top of the list?

What if one of the listed pools gets hacked, malware, or leaks private data? Are we partly responsible / could be sued? We have to wait for a whole release before we can change the code away from an adversarial pool?

This is not decentralized, and thus sort of goes against the spirit of The Monero Project.

I'm a big fan of adding a solo smart miner to the wallet. Not a fan of this.

Indeed, The Monero Project should not get itself mired in pool or market politics. Besides, there are already a multitude of pool mining guides out there.

A solo mining feature in GUI is totally fine as it is at the core of the decentralized nature of Monero and most if not all of the other cryptocurrencies. Besides, who doesn't want to participate in a lottery anyway and made easy at that?



That's a good discussion on git, here was my recommendation.

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What about separate releases? The one with the integrated pool release add the stratum and have the default local, therefore to change from mining on a local pool the user would have to enter one them self or just as easily add their pool to the list (maybe setup and auto msg to irc for the new pool to announce and scrape it?).



It is indeed a very interesting discussion. I just think that apart from potential negative ramifications, including a pool mining feature in Monero Core is redundant. People are already pool mining with a whole host of currently available mining software and methods. However, I am not aware of a simple, uncomplicated way to solo mine XMR.

What if the mining reward is changed from the established winner-take-all "lottery" model to a distributed one in which "solo" miners get a piece of the reward according to their hashing share for each block mined -- sort of a built-in pool within Monero Core. In a sense, every "solo" miner is actually participating in pool mining but the mining pool in this case is the network/blockchain/protocol/Monero Core itself. It couldn't get more decentralized than that, thereby taking centralized external mining pools (privately run business enterprises) out of the equation.

I do not know if such a silly notion is even technically feasible but even if it is, I would imagine that it is going to be a daunting endeavor code wise.

Note: I originally posted this silly notion of mine several pages back.



It wouldn't be a 'sort of built-in pool' it would be simply a pool and need running / administering (by a third party).

2058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 30, 2016, 05:51:12 PM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?

it has been done already, scroll up between 1 and 3 pages, can't remember.



thx for your input on the T/A chart but you make a few assumptions i wouldnt be 100% sure about
the august bagholders may not be the current sellers since the price tanked very low in september oct,nov etc and
people maybe have doubled their money and then some by buying in thiose months of epic crashdom .....

i thin its still a good bit too early for xmr to bloom and people who got biten by the last OASIS and ALPAHABAY scam wont be so
quick to throw millions of dollars into the fire again so easily ,at least until we get some more real use cases ......

Scam?

Do you mean the price rise associated with the news of XMR adoption?

Because your use of 'scam' seems to be aimed at XMR.  Oasis may have been an exit scam - but I doubt much (if any) XMR were lost. One small dark market disappeared (with punters BTC). So?

And Alphabay just opened up the dark markets to XMR, not sure how that qualifies as a scam, either.

Care to explain what you meant?



oasis and alphabay buys up all the cheap xmr
then they go public and announce their news
even went so far as to advise their customers to stock up on xmr for future purchases
customers bought xmr up to near $16 iirc
oasis ran away with everybodys money and alphabay faked a wallet problem and monero was unusable for awhile
these factors resulted in severe losses for lots of their customers
i would call that a scam but you could also say it was a tragic set of unforeseen circumstances which occured naturally at worst possible timing
your choice....

(btw i like monero and i am a signifigant hodler,i am not blaming the coin itself for the actions of the guilty in case it sounded like that)

I think Alphabay were / are perhaps genuinely interested - and I cannot know how they might have benefited - but pre GUI it was badly implemented at first.  Oasis was an exit scam, yes, but it is hard to know if much or any XMR was lost, other than in speculation around the announcement.

But thank you for clearing up this wasn't a scam of XMR's making, which is what I sought.  Like you I hold XMR, so I don't want fresh eyes looking at XMR to think we (those who support XMR on here) approve, or were complicit in any scams.

We can't blame XMR for how XMR is used, even if it is used for dubious financial gains. 
2059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 30, 2016, 05:08:12 PM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?

it has been done already, scroll up between 1 and 3 pages, can't remember.



thx for your input on the T/A chart but you make a few assumptions i wouldnt be 100% sure about
the august bagholders may not be the current sellers since the price tanked very low in september oct,nov etc and
people maybe have doubled their money and then some by buying in thiose months of epic crashdom .....

i thin its still a good bit too early for xmr to bloom and people who got biten by the last OASIS and ALPAHABAY scam wont be so
quick to throw millions of dollars into the fire again so easily ,at least until we get some more real use cases ......

Scam?

Do you mean the price rise associated with the news of XMR adoption?

Because your use of 'scam' seems to be aimed at XMR.  Oasis may have been an exit scam - but I doubt much (if any) XMR were lost. One small dark market disappeared (with punters BTC). So?

And Alphabay just opened up the dark markets to XMR, not sure how that qualifies as a scam, either.

Care to explain what you meant?

2060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 30, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?
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