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2041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 01:20:12 PM
Thats how it should be april at the v earliest. We are doin all clones a favour. In april they will be able to copy the finnished thing

In April noone will care about the clones.


If i'm not mistaken you mentioned TF will take 6 months to be fully implemented.
2042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 01:16:55 PM
But since this is a open source code project, why can't he copy the TF from Nxt?

Coz he must wait till April at least.

do we have to open TF?
2043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
will blocks still be generated every 60,000 ms after full TF implementation?

Yes, or we can choose any other value, thx to time warp effect.

so we can decrease the block forging gap to 10,000 ms or lower?

Yes. It doesn't matter what we change - number of transactions in a block or time between blocks.

WOW  Shocked
2044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 01:13:03 PM
will blocks still be generated every 60,000 ms after full TF implementation?

Yes, or we can choose any other value, thx to time warp effect.

so we can decrease the block forging gap to 10,000 ms or lower?
2045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 01:09:34 PM
So once TF kicks in with 1000 tps, the max NXT block size goes from what to what?  

To da moon?

will blocks still be generated every 60,000 ms after full TF implementation?
2046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 12:59:04 PM
so r u saying he would have to invent TF himself to compete?

Yes.  Grin

 Grin  its a feature

Edit: features don;t have to be open source do they...just like HIVE or DNA
2047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 12:56:53 PM
NEX is a joke but a potentially deadly one if we do not respond quickly to its legitimate criticisms.

His criticism is not based on real things.

PS: Once we have TF ready we can change transaction limit from 4.25 to 1000 transactions per second. 200x increase in TPS will lead to the same increase in price.

so r u saying he would have to invent TF himself to compete?


Will TF feature be released? as this is a feature & not part of source?...i could be wrong in my understanding.
2048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 12:40:47 PM
oh man, this is extrem cool stuff, while it seems some people taking this as a prototype/joke coin i see this more as a powerfull new component to complete

CfB has noted that this is a serious effort and will be his entry for the AM contest.

this AM contest is looking very competitive...i like it  Grin
2049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 09:53:59 AM
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?
If you want to support competition and alternative clones of Nxt, then, after the source code becomes open in April, the tools or know-how needed to generate a genesis block should also be published. But there is no reason to personally help FC in particular. Based on his attitude, I just ignore him. I doubt any good developers would want to work on a project led by someone with his personality, so NEX will get nowhere, if it ever launches.



+100
2050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 09:32:11 AM
HONG KONG CONFERENCE IN JUNE SHOULD BE HIGH PRIORITY....HONG KONG IS THE GATEWAY TO CHINA.

detailed date ?

I think in June.....better to check with Salsacz
2051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 07:52:29 AM
HONG KONG CONFERENCE IN JUNE SHOULD BE HIGH PRIORITY....HONG KONG IS THE GATEWAY TO CHINA.


2052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 09:01:53 PM
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

The point of having freely available source is to allow both audits and changes.

If the source is available, but unusable, then it really isn't free.

I say give him the tools he needs to generate a genesis block.


I argue against it
2053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE WHITEPAPER?

We need some super techie to polish the technical details. Sometimes marketing is purely technical

THIS SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS
2054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE WHITEPAPER?
2055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
Why can't we wait until we have an open source client like nexern, then start with marketing?  We need to point people to an easy one click install, otherwise people will come and then leave confused.  Also, we need to focus on several core features so we have something to market.
+1
It would be better to be prepared. Client could be ready in 8-10 days.

WE ARE WITH YOU  Smiley
2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:18:06 PM
Can we at least wait until we have a completed White Paper and Open Source Client.  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!  I would like to have a nice brief article explaining Nxt, Features, POS, and then at the bottom, a download link for one of the Open Source Clients.  You can't throw arbitrary marketing ideas around and expect funding, be more specific.  We need to wait until we have a one click client, or we will lose people forever.

We have tons of articles already....but yes this should be FINISHED ASAP!!

Then why are you so adamant on Marketing funding?

Because it is essential....but it takes time to prepare & execute Smiley
2057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:14:03 PM
Can we at least wait until we have a completed White Paper and Open Source Client.  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!  I would like to have a nice brief article explaining Nxt, Features, POS, and then at the bottom, a download link for one of the Open Source Clients.  You can't throw arbitrary marketing ideas around and expect funding, be more specific.  We need to wait until we have a one click client, or we will lose people forever.

We have tons of articles already....but yes this should be FINISHED ASAP!!
2058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:13:07 PM
Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

I agree.

salzacs reports back with the results of the 250K

Pin

Agree. Let salzacs  take care of marketing funding and have a report back after sometimes.

I'm with you
2059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:11:31 PM

   I agree with James that we need some marketing , but for more techies and for more early adopters (for those that missed most of the "trains" like bitcoin litecoin, they can get on this bus), not the end user the end user isn’t ready for nxt neither nxt for the end user ... doggie coin? well ok let doggy coin take the dumbs! we will take the devs and the marketers, nxt is already success ! ( have you installed the 0.5.9v ? ) its much wow... many thanks Jean-Luc...

we are in the stage of INNOVATION , were everybody that wants to get in needs to show some efforts to code code code for the community,contribute, provide goods and services...
    So please we are not dogy we are NXT, decentralized assets, exchange... and please promote in the places where developers need work (like Indian forums for example) this is what we need , developers & marketers.



One of the things marketing at this point can do, is communicate that we are still beta. Much dissapointment and people leaving can be had from just doing that.
Get out the message that we are innovating and create a buzz that people will want to jump into as soon as it's possible for them.

That's what I mean by creating a wave. You want people to wánt it.

I also think we should do regular reports to the community what we are doing and have done. Results.



FOCUS ON CHINA!   use the new exchange....Educate
2060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

OK
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