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2041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 12, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
Huh Is there any news about the negotiation?

has been an agreement, they are going to proceed   Cheesy
2042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 12, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Flutter coin team is doing this:

- Wallet (+-46M fluttercoins)
- Private Key
- Customers FLT balance
- Emails

I think Mintpal is giving the devs all this, which means the devs will have to deal with redistributing the coins.

Looks like a good idea?

Here is the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=752630.440

This is exactly what mintpal v1, will give us. This is the so called plan B that we are going to do.
But we could proceed faster, because we already did the form, as have the adress of most of the users (the others users will be able to fill the form also). 

In fact, after our negotiation with mintpal, i imagine that they thought that could do the same with other coins in similar situation.
2043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 09, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy



 Cry Why do they need green light? It seems that we still need to wait for a long time

Holy shit. It's totally failure for mintpal.
never successfully from mintpal.
wait for long time.liar.

Meanwhile some of you becomes desperate, the faircoin dev team continue working on the solution in continued contact with the mintpal owners.  I wish that the next news will be already some action...
2044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 08, 2014, 12:50:10 PM
This is exactly what i meant.
Why not just ask the data in first place instead of waiting for them to take care of legal stuff, and who knows what's next?
With the balances data it is very simple to reimburse everybody via coin-swap and proog of balance from mintpal....


We are already discussing about this, that is the called plan B

 but still is not confirmed what data exactly are they able to send us with legal security
(wallets, balances, usernames...username and password)

If they send us only usernames but not passwords, we will need to setup a manual withdrawal managed by faircoin dev team,
with the data that we already have of our forms - like faircoin adress for every user- (updating with a second round of people missing)

If they send us also passwords, this process could be managed directly by the users...
(but we would need to think about what is better because set up a way like this could be too much work for less than a hundred of users that have faircoins on mintpal)

Anyway if their legal situation, not progress, this is the way that the withdrawal will be done, to be faster..




2045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 08, 2014, 11:45:17 AM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy



 Cry Why do they need green light? It seems that we still need to wait for a long time

Holy shit. It's totally failure for mintpal.

why long time?

their lawyer have a question on the table and is going to answer. But seems easy and are going to work...

Because it seems that they have to do a lot work,hope I can get my faircoin back before the end of this year....

before the end of this year??? other 2 months?? argh! i can't believe!

anyways, i suppose is better than nothing

This "before the end of this year" thing was a Tequila personal expression, but i am pending day by day, and working for make it possible as soon as possible. Mintpal owners are conscient that too much time has past, and also are willing to solve the thing shortly.
2046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 08, 2014, 09:35:28 AM
Instead of all this mess, why not create a new coin, exactly the same, according to the balances of each FAIR holder?
And divide them as necessary?
Then destroy the existing FAIR....

I think it will be much simpler...
This uncertainty as to whether mintpal will send the coins makes no sense...

This cant be done without mintpal collaboration, because the balances belonging the users there are in their hands.

Anyway mintpal collaboration exists and if they dont solve the legal situation will give us the data necessary to do by ourselves. This is plan B,
2047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 08, 2014, 12:01:33 AM
To all the FairCoin fellows who had or have yet their FairCoins at Mintpal!

We were talking with the Mintpal V1 team about how to redistribute the missing FairCoins, they don't have access to the Mintpal V2 system, but they have confirmed that Ryan doesn't control the FairCoins! Mintpal V1 is in control of the missing FairCoins and these are good news!

So we are going to help the Mintpal V1 team by requesting additional information to help to quickly set up a working withdrawal procedure.

lease fill in the form below to prepare a possible manual withdrawal. It is important to provide as accurate information as possible so we can correctly match it to your balance.

The form is open! https://chain.fair-coin.org/rt/mintpal-recovery.html

This form will be available only until Tuesday, October 28th at 23:00 GMT.

Yours Enric Duran (smartaction) and Thomas König (thokon00)


I just saw the info in OP as I didn't login BTT since the 10th Oct.
I had a FAIR deposit in Mintpal V1. And I missed to fill the form.

Do I still have the chance to get my FAIR back?


I am in the same situation ...

Unfortunately the same situation for me. Any chance to reclaim our coins?

With the current plans is not a problem because mintpal v1 have all the data.  If some of the data becames needed in some moment, i guess we could open a new round of form for users that missed the first round. But as i said, i think that not will be necessary,
2048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 07, 2014, 12:44:23 AM
Here below, the new mintpal site to keep everyone updated related their current process

http://www.mintpaljustice.com/
2049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 06, 2014, 11:05:31 PM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy



 Cry Why do they need green light? It seems that we still need to wait for a long time

Holy shit. It's totally failure for mintpal.

why long time?

their lawyer have a question on the table and is going to answer. But seems easy and are going to work...

Lawyer? Pfff i am strating to believe Mintpal V1 owners and moolah are working together.
Why we need to go thru a lawyer to get what belong to us?

Mintpal owners only wants to be sure that moolah dont cant sue them for withdrawing the coins.
Anyway i have seen from them serious intentions to do what is needed as soon as possible.
2050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 06, 2014, 11:03:15 PM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy



Ok. And that can take how long? days/weeks/month??

They dont want to give a deadline that could be missed, but we are talking about days, at the most..

Yo
How it will happen?

- They automatically wildraws FAIRCOIN to our address given in the Mintpal V1 ?

- Must be given an address in the recovery site : https://www.mintpal.com/

-They Will use the site you realize : https://chain.fair-coin.org/rt/mintpal-recovery.html ( I am not registered because I was on the go without internet connection when you open the website ... )

- Or what?

Thank you for more information; )

Because they dont have acces to the domain www.mintpal.com the will setup another domain with the mintpal v1 software, to withdraw the coins
2051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 06, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy



 Cry Why do they need green light? It seems that we still need to wait for a long time

Holy shit. It's totally failure for mintpal.

why long time?

their lawyer have a question on the table and is going to answer. But seems easy and are going to work...
2052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 05, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy



Ok. And that can take how long? days/weeks/month??

They dont want to give a deadline that could be missed, but we are talking about days, at the most..
2053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Promotes Equality and a Fair Economy on: November 05, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
Update:

Mintpal V1 its going to do faircoin withdrawal as soon as they get the green light from their lawyer   Cheesy

2054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: November 04, 2014, 06:55:44 PM

Mintpal V1, dont have this data, only ryan have.
and the owner of this faircoins could be able to make a double withdrawal when mintpal v1. enables withdrawls


So we will be able to withdraw from mintpal V1 soon?! sounds good to me  Smiley


Hope so....

For the moment i dont have all confirmed exactly, but yes, the news are related this waited withdrawal from mintpal v1 that are coming very soon...
2055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: November 04, 2014, 02:55:31 PM
This sounds quite interesting, I have a few guys of my zone supporting this coin. Just trying to understand how community benefits from FAIR.

This information is here  -> https://fair.coop
And we are working on it here -> https://fair.coop/forums/forum/earth/

Already local groups working in Spain, France, Germany, Argentina, Brazil,.. And also people collaborating from a big diversity of countries and cultures, from Xina, to India and USa,

The people publically involved is a warranty https://fair.coop/the-first-counselors/
(faircoin have already many people in wikipedia, like bitcoin...)

And  there are a lot of more supports and information that i already have, but pending to agree how to make it public with the partners involved  Wink


2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: November 04, 2014, 12:16:05 PM
Cry   waiting for the good news.It seems that the data is chaotic in V1

Not chaotic, but not updated with the mintpal v2 movements....
2057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: November 04, 2014, 11:26:14 AM
Anyone was the author of this transaction?
https://chain.fair-coin.org/tx/3d5c3063ff8b4e717d3057cfdb4230ecc1ce9ce7d30a69a0ec429e1f660d020b

Was a 71633 faircoin withdrawal from mintpal V2   14/10/2014

And is from the owner of this adress
https://chain.fair-coin.org/address/fPkEwz1PYRucrrSGYkQWCCAqVtoMctsfSH that only contains the 71633 faircoin

Mintpal V1, dont have this data, only ryan have.
and the owner of this faircoins could be able to make a double withdrawal when mintpal v1. enables withdrawls

If you are fair enough, please PM message me...
otherwise  we will observe if you move your faircoins...  Wink


2058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: November 04, 2014, 07:44:26 AM
???Nothing new?Well so I have a bad feeling.

Let's wait until tomorrow and see ...

 :'(But the dev doesn't appear

I was missing internet connection yesterday, but there are good news.  Cheesy

I am yet managing with the mintpal team how this news are going to be explained, but i think that i will be able to bring an update later today.
2059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: October 31, 2014, 05:55:42 PM
The faircoins are useless for ryan, he cant sell them or anything. there arent so many buy orders.

Yeah i agree, for now they are useless, and also they are not ...

He has over 51% of the coins .. that is really bad news.

No he hasn't!

Most of the faircoins in mintpal are in hands of the mintpal owner, not ryan   Smiley

Perhaps he have around 1 milion of faircoin at most, but not more, this is one of the things that we was trying to know
with the faircoin form.



This are good news then.

But if they are in hands of Mintpal owner why he can't release them?

We have  balances around 15.200.000 Faircoin
and mintpal v1 have around 14.200.000 Faircoin they can not do the withdrawal by theirselves, because the last users in withdraw will not have faircoin

Plan B is an agreement  between Mintpal and faircoin dev team, about how to do the withdrawal, in the benefit of the whole faircoin community, and how to do this things if around 7% of the mintpal faircoin are in mintpal v2

Is not so easy but will be managed next week, be sure...
2060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin | Form closed. Mintpal recovery in the works on: October 31, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
The faircoins are useless for ryan, he cant sell them or anything. there arent so many buy orders.

Yeah i agree, for now they are useless, and also they are not ...

He has over 51% of the coins .. that is really bad news.

No he hasn't!

Most of the faircoins in mintpal are in hands of the mintpal owner, not ryan   Smiley

Perhaps he have around 1 milion of faircoin at most, but not more, this is one of the things that we was trying to know
with the faircoin form.

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