on the site, it clearly we are selling chips, just gotta get some documentation together before we can move forward.
it's a on going battle with ideology and pragmatism, this is going to take some time, but it'll come.
BitSyncom , What about providing your PCB design files+components list for a start? It will save you a lot of time writing documentation. I am not saying documentation is useless but. I am sure that it will be helpful to hardware guys here to move forward while waiting for documentation. What do you think allten? |
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1. 5V or 12V power
2. 1.2V DC-DC efficienct regulator module
3. avalon chips
4. ?
5. profit!
(Seriously, I don't think it's *that* easy...)
As long will help each other with our skills we will make it! Who say's it is easy? It is not impossible right? Apart of the profit alone which matters it will bring us a lot of joy which money can not buy all the times |
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If you happen to have in hand Avalons you can most likely ask +10k$ and get that money too.
I was offered $10k, and then $20k for mine. I said no both times. +1 even i have no pending offers yet:) |
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+1 Dude, I do really hope that they will start to sell chips, because without them it can never happen. I have mailed/PMd them a couple of times and still nothing. We have to wait for sure. Let all of us keep this thread alive! With valuable information which is already posted  And with following Avalon comments also  |
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What is the difference then we always were paying 2.5% nothing changes. What changes is our hash rate and that is all. Now pulls are giving work which is at difficulty 16 or 32 or higher to ASICs— this reduce their work per has by the same factor. I do not get (understand) that comment can you be more specific? |
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I'd love to see a break down, by pool to compare and hopefully create some competition between them by doing so. If one pool is $1000/mo cheaper, guess where I'm mining The answer is simple you mine where it works! Saying all this i am about to open a pool in projections the pool up time is about 30% come and join me and of course 0% fee And i can offer similar 0% fee pools for backup also so you will be sure that fee is laways zero and your income will be reduced with 70%. assuming 3% fee equals 1000.m in your example you are losing about 23000K per month - nice deal a? |
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Some of you Avalon owners should consider mining at BitMinter... they have 0% fee, merged namecoin mining, and split block tx fees in exchange for a bit of variance as it's PPLNS. Of course the variance is inversely proportional to the pool's hashrate, and right now one Avalon is equal to about 2.5% of the pool's hashrate so each additional device makes a noticable effect on lowering variance.
*disclaimer: I mine at BitMinter :p (but sadly do not own an Avalon)
I do have avalon and i am mining at bitminter and i have always (before and after) donated my 2.5% to the owner because he deserves it 100%. What is the difference then we always were paying 2.5% nothing changes. What changes is our hash rate and that is all. We ASIC owners are supposed to be "the rich guys". In all around the world rich ones pay more or at least it is about to happen. So why we are crying for? Every one is free to mine solo so please go ahead. in my personal opinion 95% of the ASIC owners ( no hard feelings guy's) do not have a clue how to mine solo anyway. They have to pay their tax to the pool. If they do not like it i wish them luck try/error combined with bad luck + stales may turn out quite bitter expensive at the moment for them I am not a bitminter advocate but guy's stick to your favorite pool (with few for backup ), pay your tax and please do not calculate operator income. They all deserved it for sure |
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Why would anyone in batch 1 sell? They are making a killing right now.
1. because of the price dude no other reason 2. The party want last forever as you know 3. Very unlikely because of funny BFL video published lately Some guy's are selling their batch2 units though - look at them also if you are not at the batch 2 queue of course.You will have more room for negotiation there. Batch 1 right now will rip you off I am not selling mine pls do not make me an offers:) |
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My impression was that ASIC designs are foundry-specific. How do you open-source that? Even if you published the Verilog, what good would it do?
ASIC designs are technology specific but not tied to any machine calibration. They should open source the functional verilog as well as the full mask and specification - a turn key design. Dude, Let us focus with simple things first. They have announce that they will sell chips in bulk. If they publish the PCB designs (Asic Board+Controller +PDU + Components list), It will be more than enough. I do not se a reason why they shall not to do it as long this design is related with their chip. If They do that I am about to buy bulk chips and build my own units and most of us can do. I will bevery happy to do that personaly What about that Ngzhang, Bitsync - I have mailed you a couple of times and no response still |
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do you think you can make a image of the install or a vitrual m donation for the image will be made i second that. Yeah... I'll make you an image with no back doors or ways to steal all of your coins... Just use a pool if you can't follow his easy to use step by step instructions. the problem is, many of us don't use linux, ok? i'd trust Jeff to make an image. Dude, If you are not using linux, image will help you a lot but still will be not enough. Just install one for a start and get used to it first. Just my 2 cents |
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Guy's
Any word on merged mining - BTC+ NMC with this setup. I am aware of the fact namecoind is needed also but what about poll, does it support it?
I found out this is supported. I will paly with it and let you know if i found out how to do it
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I think if they really have something can work, no matter how much power drain it is or how hot it is, they can provide a short mining video. But except words, we see nothing.
Or they just are not able to disguise avalon and post video of it mining |
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With the increase in the value of bitcoins, I wonder if they'll raise their prices after they ship the preorders.
If they really are ready to start shipping, honestly, they'd be pretty foolish not to. Once manufacturing/shipping starts to catch up the backlog, people will gladly pay much more for what they have to offer. Enigma As long as ROI matters for customers in general dude. Everyone decides with his head though. it is just simple equation between Suppliers and customers. As long as i can see we customers can take a lot Why - euphoria, greed, wrong math excitement lost of common sense? As long as we take it and buy they will raise the prices for sure. As long as we act as a community they will have to obey to us. But this aint going to happen It is not a simple equation at all since no product actually moved hands. There is no supply as of yet. Quite true dude. Let us imagine that we all refuse to pay for it all of us no exceptions. What you think is going to happen - they will mine it alone and buy and sell coins alone? They need us and we need them. But if we unite we will dictate the rules not them or at least the equation will look differently. Simple as that I am not saying that ASIC manufactures do not deserve a profit not at all. They work hard for it and same applies for us to earn money for living. are yoo going to pay 100K just because there is no supply? or 10K? or how much actually? Just because there is no supply? The only thing which you have to pay for no matter what is your health and you have no option there no supply/demand bulshit . In all other case there is always a choice always even though there is no supply as long as your life does not depend on it |
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With the increase in the value of bitcoins, I wonder if they'll raise their prices after they ship the preorders.
If they really are ready to start shipping, honestly, they'd be pretty foolish not to. Once manufacturing/shipping starts to catch up the backlog, people will gladly pay much more for what they have to offer. Enigma As long as ROI matters for customers in general dude. Everyone decides with his head though. it is just simple equation between Suppliers and customers. As long as i can see we customers can take a lot Why - euphoria, greed, wrong math excitement lost of common sense? As long as we take it and buy they will raise the prices for sure. As long as we act as a community they will have to obey to us. But this aint going to happen |
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Yes,you win & so do about 150 others out of 300 from 1st batch that shipped on Jan 20.Lets see,over 60 days with no tracking info,no email from Avalon,nothing to do but sit & wait,really the best company won. Both Avalon & BFL have thier issues,but I'm very sure BFL's units will do just fine catching up in the next year or so. BTW,loshia,you live in China correct?? So,warranty return will be easy & cheap for you,how about those of us in the US ?? Or even in UK,shipping back to China is gonna be pricey,have fun Dude, I do not live in china at all. I agree that Avalon has their issues about "customer relations" also no doubt about it. Buy the way there are a lot of reports from US happy customers also. They got their units. Just to clarify that i really do truly regret about all of BFL customers. For the reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148832.msg1604616#msg1604616But no hard feelings for you and all BFL defenders here. You guys are just blind and you can not agree with simple facts as they are. And you do know that what you speak is not making any sense in current situation, don't you? Best PS: just for the reference how do you think to catch up withh 200+btc at least made by avalon amusing you got BFL units in a month - pretty doubtfully for sure. Just do your math and face the facts I am talking about batch 1 only. Math may look a little bit different for next Avalon batches though. |
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Its about 40TH worth,give or take  Even 120-150 watts @ 60GH beats the crap out of 600 watts  & $6000-8000  Dude, Pls remember "the crap out of 600 watts" Pays the electricity itself with a day or two work for a year:) What about this crap? I am happy to have that crap in my hands LOL! Post back here in 6-12 months & let me how much more your earning than me Really,I'm happy Avalon got thiers out Dude, I do not know of others btach 1 others but i do belive 90% of them are delivered yet. Speaking of btc earnings alone the BFL customers will never be able to catch up in BTC for a life time period Avalons batch 1. I can bet on that and i know i will win but i do not want to wait for that bet for obvious reasons |
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Its about 40TH worth,give or take Even 120-150 watts @ 60GH beats the crap out of 600 watts & $6000-8000 Dude, Pls remember "the crap out of 600 watts" Pays the electricity itself with a day or two work for a year:) What about this crap? I am happy to have that crap in my hands LOL! |
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We had an issue with bitcoind (the backend to access the bitcoin peer-to-peer network), which caused mining to stop for a few minutes.
Everything is back to normal now. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Two stales in a row. Doc, does the above issue have anything in common? No, bitcoind is running without issues now. It may be that the gigantic ddos going on against spamhaus is making block propagation a little wonky. Or it can just be bad luck. 10X doc! Best |
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We had an issue with bitcoind (the backend to access the bitcoin peer-to-peer network), which caused mining to stop for a few minutes.
Everything is back to normal now. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Two stales in a row. Doc, does the above issue have anything in common? |
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