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2061  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 02, 2013, 01:47:22 AM
A brokerage could easily use something like Bitpay to allow people to deposit using Bitcoins.
then there is no point of using bitcoin the point of using bitcoin is to keep the account in btc and gain account value if the price goes up

sure, that would be perfect. Bit4x does give this option, 1broker (CFD), too.....but both are unregulated

On the other hand, it is a nice option if you can trade some forex with a BTC deposit (which is changed to $) while BTC is  going sideways or down isn't it?


Wait on Forex-Metal is there an actual BTC/USD pair? That would be awesome for no other reason other than BTC existing in metatrader.

no, but I think Plus500 has, I can't visit their site to check

It does, but Im in US so I can't. Honestly, I've said "i'm in US so I can't" far too many times already its starting to piss me off.

Quote
Also can somebody explain to me what the actual fuck does "infinite leverage" mean? WTF?



where did you see that? lol
1broker
Quote

Also they say 1.5 pip spreads, on EUR USD, but I'm seeing spreads of a full pip more almost constantly. This is not fun.


They have 3 acount types. I'm testeing a demo account now
Yea :\


Plus500: I can't trade eith them either as they block Brazil. hehehe...take it easy

1broker: Never seen that claim, but since I allready traded their BTC/USD CFD I gues they mean that you can change leverage (up to the limit of course) on the fly when doing an order. (Not that that makes any sense to me, you want half of max leverage, just trade half the size
2062  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 02, 2013, 01:00:50 AM
Bit4X is the only ECN forex broker with bitcoin denominated MT4 balance. Also the best.


Well if it's the only, it's not dificult to be the best, isn't it?
claims like this, f.e. false awards on the page or false claims that one is regulated are nor trustworthy to me.



If you have any serious questions, you know where to find me.

I don't kknow where to find you, so I try it here:

First: Who are you? You work for them or are a custumer?

Bit4X is the ECN forex broker



How can I check it is really ECN? website doesn't say this.




Kind of weird I have to spell it out but here goes: start by reading the Bit4X.com webpage.



well, support seams to be bad as well. :-(


Venet-FX page doesn't mention ECN.....and Bit4x seams to mention all kind of things that sound good

Troll or stupid?

thank's, I was even considerating trading on your page before your posts, but you made my decision easy.

To all: WHat kind of person is this? You'll tust a guy like this? I won't
2063  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 02, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
Bit4X is the only ECN forex broker with bitcoin denominated MT4 balance. Also the best.


Well if it's the only, it's not dificult to be the best, isn't it?
claims like this, f.e. false awards on the page or false claims that one is regulated are nor trustworthy to me.



If you have any serious questions, you know where to find me.

I don't kknow where to find you, so I try it here:

First: Who are you? You work for them or are a custumer?

Bit4X is the ECN forex broker



How can I check it is really ECN? website doesn't say this.




Kind of weird I have to spell it out but here goes: start by reading the Bit4X.com webpage.



well, support seams to be bad as well. :-(


Venet-FX page doesn't mention ECN.....and Bit4x seams to mention all kind of things that sound good
2064  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 02, 2013, 12:35:01 AM
Bit4X is the only ECN forex broker with bitcoin denominated MT4 balance. Also the best.


Well if it's the only, it's not dificult to be the best, isn't it?
claims like this, f.e. false awards on the page or false claims that one is regulated are nor trustworthy to me.



If you have any serious questions, you know where to find me.

I don't kknow where to find you, so I try it here:

First: Who are you? You work for them or are a custumer?

Bit4X is the ECN forex broker

How can I check it is really ECN? website doesn't say this.




2065  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 01, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
Bit4x does give this option, 1broker (CFD), too.....but both are unregulated
if u are in USA that a good thing because is illegal for normal uss citizens to trade CFD, synthetic index's, trade with leverage over 50 and a long list



arent all market making Forex-Brokers actualy offering a CDF on pairs (though they don't call it like this)?? And the maiority is market maker
2066  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 01, 2013, 08:16:46 PM
A brokerage could easily use something like Bitpay to allow people to deposit using Bitcoins.
then there is no point of using bitcoin the point of using bitcoin is to keep the account in btc and gain account value if the price goes up

sure, that would be perfect. Bit4x does give this option, 1broker (CFD), too.....but both are unregulated

On the other hand, it is a nice option if you can trade some forex with a BTC deposit (which is changed to $) while BTC is  going sideways or down isn't it?


Wait on Forex-Metal is there an actual BTC/USD pair? That would be awesome for no other reason other than BTC existing in metatrader.

no, but I think Plus500 has, I can't visit their site to check


Also can somebody explain to me what the actual fuck does "infinite leverage" mean? WTF?



where did you see that? lol




Also they say 1.5 pip spreads, on EUR USD, but I'm seeing spreads of a full pip more almost constantly. This is not fun.


They have 3 acount types. I'm testeing a demo account now
2067  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 01, 2013, 07:13:07 PM
A brokerage could easily use something like Bitpay to allow people to deposit using Bitcoins.

exactly:


let me ask about this 2 brokers:


1)Plus500

2)Forex-Metal


the second allows deposit and withdraw in BTC

the first is blocked for my country
2068  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex broker plus500 has opened for Bitcoin trading. on: August 01, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
They block access from a whole bunch of "high risk" countries.


what's the risk for them?
2069  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex brokers which are BTC based or accept BTC deposit/withdrw on: August 01, 2013, 05:14:27 PM
You still shud investogate the one that blocks ip from brazil and if it is viable you shud use vpn to use it with a usa or canadian IP through vpn Smiley

don't know man, there must be a reason for it
2070  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex broker plus500 has opened for Bitcoin trading. on: August 01, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
why does this broker block access from Brazil?
2071  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-29 bitcoin-square: Plus500 now offers BTCUSD instrument on: August 01, 2013, 05:12:29 PM

funny that the text mentions Plus500 as a "real broker" at the end.



does anybody know why this broker blocks IPs from Brazil?
2072  Economy / Trading Discussion / Forex brokers which are BTC based or accept BTC deposit/withdrw on: August 01, 2013, 02:54:16 PM
Hello friends,

I'm currently looking for a relialbel forexbroker wich has BTC-based accounts or at least allow BTC deposit/withdraw


So far I found:

1) Bit4x (VenetFX): serious accusations in this forum against them

2) LiteForex: serious accusations all over the internet

3) plus500: haven't investigated this one since the broker blocks IP-adresses from Brazil, so it's not usable for me

4) Forex-Metal: still googleing this. any information on this one?

5) 1broker (CFD): there seam to be no problem with this broker, but the fact it doesn't have Metatrader and doesn't even allow advanced orders makes this a no-option for me


any others?
2073  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: August 01, 2013, 01:48:13 PM


- Your firm is NOT regulated by the FSA and you are lying when you claim to be.  Everyone follow these steps:
1.  Go to http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmSearchForm.do
2.  Type 217689 (This is FXCM - a regulated, respected, and legal broker)
3.  Click regulators
4.  Notice how it says, "Financial Services Authority" - FXCM is legally regulated
5.  Follow step 1-2 with 194835 (The number for VenetFX)
6.  Click regulators
7.  Notice the void?  VenetFX is NOT regulated by the FSA and they claim to be
8.  Now click the permissions link for each of the above firms.  VenetFX is NOT authorized to transact in foreign exchange, contracts for difference, or spot forex




checked this today, and it still the case.

Liteforex, another broker which accepts BTC seams to be scam, too.

Is there any serious FX-broker I can deposit with BTC out there?
2074  Economy / Gambling / Re: Forex-Metal Accepts Bitcoin Payments on: August 01, 2013, 04:40:39 AM
Will a BTC founded account be based in BTC or will it be transformed into dolar?
If changed to dolar, what is the base for the exchange rate?
2075  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: LiteForex - Accepts bitcoin for deposits, withdrawals on: August 01, 2013, 04:36:38 AM
anybody used this broker using Bitcoin?
2076  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: July 31, 2013, 05:50:34 PM
Die meisten Papabären haben jetzt auch Hörner bekommen. Das ist ein gutes zeichen
2077  Economy / Speculation / Re: btccharts.com are you freacking serious ???? on: July 31, 2013, 05:03:07 PM
Server id down because someone forget to pay (on hosting side, not me) ...something like that

Big fuckup from bitvps so far (it's 5 days of dead server already)!

btccharts are not going nowhere anyway Smiley
(maybe I will find some other hosting today)


perhaps a donation-adress in your signature would help
2078  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Aktueller Kursverlauf aus Sicht der technischen (auch fundamen.) Chartanalyse on: July 31, 2013, 03:15:37 PM
Die untere Linie ist Support. Da drunter würde ich verkaufen (ich glaube nicht das das passiert)

Die obere ist nur ne Markierung, kein Grund dass sie Resistenz ist



Das ist charttechnisch gesehen falsch!!!

Unterstützunglinien für einen  Kursrückgangen werden durch vorherige Hochs gebildet und nicht durch vorherige Tiefs!!!!

Vorherige Tiefs bilden Wiederstandslinien, an den ein Kuranstieg oft scheitert und wieder abfällt.


Das mag longtermmässig stimmen, shortterm (day und swingtrading) macht es aber keinen Sinn
2079  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Aktueller Kursverlauf aus Sicht der technischen (auch fundamen.) Chartanalyse on: July 31, 2013, 03:00:46 PM
Die untere Linie ist Support. Da drunter würde ich verkaufen (ich glaube nicht das das passiert)

Die obere ist nur ne Markierung, kein Grund dass sie Resistenz ist

2080  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: July 31, 2013, 02:56:14 PM
$100 endlich stabil gebrochen. Sollte sich nun zu einem einsenharten Support entwickeln.  

Bin mir nicht so sicher, ob man die 100 auf Gox derzeit wirklich noch als solchen Indikator sehen kann.

Auf Bitstamp sind die 100 noch nicht gebrochen.


Das stimmt allerdings.
Meine Aussage bezieht sich aber auf den Gox-Kurs. Und der zieht immer noch alle Anderen hinterher. Wenn auch schleppend

USD auf Gox sind momentan weniger Wert als USD auf anderen Exchanges, wegen der Schwierigkeiten diese dort runter zu bekommen. Normalerweise könnte man die 100 als zumindest psychologische Grenze sehen, aber derzeit bin ich mir nicht so sicher,ob das auf Gox noch zutrifft.

Ich habe deinen "Point" schon verstanden. Der Gox-Graph der letzen 2 Wochen zeigt aber eindeutig das diese psycholoische Grenze sehr, sehr einschneidend ist und war.
Währenddessen, bei einem weiterem Steigen des Goxkurses, diese HÜrde auf den anderen Börsen warscheinlich leicht übrsprungen werden wird.


es scheint fast so dass die psychologischen $100 of Stamp jetzt tatsächlich doch Effekt auf den Goxkurs haben. Vielleicht bringt uns das in eine neue Seitwärtsphase. Ist aber noch zu früh, wir werden sehen.
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