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2061  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 08:49:18 PM
I am in no position, and I humbly believe you neither, to judge that certain people don't 'deserve' such knowledge, be it about bitcoins, health, diet, music, science, consciousness etc.

Think about Genjix's conference in front of banksters in Amsterdam.  To me it was a huge mistake.   It is just as if some french officier had spent a few times in Germany in 1938, talking about his military job to german soldiers.

Although this is an extreme example, to me it's the archetype of what should not be done.

Make knowledge available, but don't try to push it in people's head.
2062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
What does efficiency have to do with anything? I want to use Bitcoin as my primary unit of exchange. I want to pay for my food with BTC, pay rent in BTC, get paid in BTC. None of that is going to happen (outside of perhaps a small community) unless we are able to convince people that Bitcoin is worth more than fiat currency. Again, this is an educational problem.

You're wrong.  I pay my rent, my food and pretty much everything I buy with gold.  And yet gold is not the primary currency in my country.   As long as there are efficient market exchange places, you can use pretty much any currency you want.
2063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 08:36:14 PM
I can't talk to random strangers about my interests? So no talking about music theory, electronics, 3d printing, and various other topics?

Write it in an encyclopedia such as Wikipedia, where people are free to get those informations, if they are interested.

But don't just show off your knowledge at random places.  People don't just lecture other people by talking with a megaphone on the streets.  Don't do that on internet either.


2064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 08:32:10 PM
Most people have been told all of their lives that state control over money is necessary and desirable. Bitcoin flies in the face of that idea.

Not just bitcoin.  Gold and silver too.  And yet people are still bashing goldbugs.

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Bitcoin cannot become widely adopted merely waiting for people to find it and understand why it is desirable on their own.

Bitcoin doesn't have to be widely adopted to be efficient.  I've said it several times and I repeat it.

If you rely on the smartness of the majority of people, you are screwed.
2065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
I don't understand. What forms of "promoting Bitcoin" are people doing that you think should be stopped? Are you saying we should stop talking about it to our friends?

Not to your friends.  To general public.  Basically to anyone you don't know.
2066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
Why don't they deserve to be aware of bitcoin?

Because they have never tried to know about it.

How hard is it to google "digital money", to follow a few links and to come up with a wikipedia page that mentions bitcoin, Ripple and stuffs like that?

How hard is it to wonder if there exist a decentralised currency? 

To me, we don't have to spend energy to teach bitcoin to someone who has never even tried to do such a basic research.
2067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Morons talking about bitcoin on: April 20, 2011, 07:52:03 PM

Since Jerry Britto's article came out on TIME, I've seen quite a few articles about bitcoin from smart asses blogs.

Some are bashing bitcoin, some are just expressing their skepticism.  But most of what I read pisses me off, and that's why I think we should stop promoting bitcoin.

People should learn about bitcoin by themselves.  After all, there is a wikipedia page, and the bitcoin.org website is explanatory enough.

Random morons should not be taught about bitcoins.  They don't deserve it if they never made any personnal research about digital money.  Why would anyone spend energy trying to convince someone about something, if this person has never manifest any interest in the subject?

Improve the bitcoin website.  Expand the FAQ, the wiki, make it resilient to government shutdown.  But please, stop promoting bitcoin to people who don't deserve it.
2068  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin’s Collusion Problem - by Timothy B Lee on: April 20, 2011, 10:17:30 AM
I'm afraid we are doomed to see always the same newbies who try to appear smart by bringing always the same arguments against bitcoin.

We very much need to have a good FAQ in order to answer to these guys with a simple link.
2069  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a scam? on: April 20, 2011, 09:21:06 AM
I like also the spirit of the guy who post here his first message, and asks if bitcoin is a scam.

WTF do you expect?  If it IS a scam, do you think anyone will tell you:  "yes, it is a scam.  Go away." ??

Just read the doc and make up your own mind.  Jeez.
2070  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical bitcoins, take 4 on: April 20, 2011, 09:04:07 AM
a physical coin is needed as a stepping stone or bridge to bring regular folks over to bitcoin.

We don't need to bring "regular folks" to the network.  Screw them.

Bitcoin can be a perfectly valid currency without being accepted by the average Joe.   As long as we have efficient market exchanges, we don't need everyone to even know about bitcoins.

Bitcoin is not a religion nor a political movement.  We don't have to care if people don't like it.
2071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical bitcoins, take 4 on: April 20, 2011, 06:13:57 AM
Well yeah, or a smartcard.  That would be nice, but AFAIK, noone has ever compiled bitcoind for such a device.
2072  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Forking open-source games with $ sign on: April 20, 2011, 05:50:44 AM
Wonder if it could be implemented as a "theme"... Then you don't need a fork.

It should be.  There is a euro coin already in the source code.  But I failed in compiling even the original version.

I uses the following png to draw the coin:



PS.  Oh yeah I managed to compile finally.  I just add to add "-lX11" for some reason.
2073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical bitcoins, take 4 on: April 20, 2011, 05:45:30 AM

This story is just outrageous.   This guy has nothing to do in jail.

And yet I'm sure some rapists or murderers will go out of jail before he does.
2074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a scam? on: April 20, 2011, 05:34:21 AM


RTFM
2075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical bitcoins, take 4 on: April 20, 2011, 04:52:36 AM
There is no way you can prevent the counterfeiting of a physical stuff.  Unless it is based on a rare physical element.


Also, what do you mean exactly by "backing"?  Who would guarantee that your paper can be turned into bitcoins?  Banks?  States?

I have nothing against a private corporation guarantiing such a backing, based on its reputation.  But it would be fiat money.  I might use some but I'd prefer use a precious metal based money.
2076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical bitcoins, take 4 on: April 20, 2011, 04:41:53 AM
Sure, your coffee will be 0.04 grams, please.

If bitcoin take off, gold won't worth that much as it will be less nessary as currency.

Moreover, it's not so difficult to mint coins with very little gold on it.  A thin layer of gold on some other material will do.

PS.  Oh, and I forgot to mention that silver exists too, for small change.
2077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Physical bitcoins, take 4 on: April 20, 2011, 03:38:46 AM
For physical exchanges, just use gold.
2078  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: April 20, 2011, 03:00:56 AM
Hive45, singularity podcast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0LTTnHZJc



The guy on your left, Tristan Grace, is almost as much of a bitcoin enthoustiast as I am.
2079  Bitcoin / Project Development / Forking open-source games with $ sign on: April 20, 2011, 01:11:00 AM
I thought of this when I saw a screenshot of this open-source game:




I think it might be cool to fork this game and have him use a bitcoin sign instead of $.


Here is the game website:


http://neverball.org

PS.  It should be pretty easy.  Basically you just have to edit the file data/item/coin/coin.png.  I'll try.

PS#2.  Damn it I get a :

dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to neverball-1.5.4/data/item/coin/coin.png: binary file contents changed

Pff...  of course the file has changed:  I've just edited it!


Any debian expert around?
2080  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Anyone can respond to this guy? on: April 20, 2011, 12:37:47 AM
Gosh I HATE thos blogs where you can't comment without registering to some crappy website.


http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/04/if-you-dont-trust-the-dollar-you-have-lots-of-good-options-besides-bitcoin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+matthewyglesias+%28Matthew+Yglesias%29



Anyone can tell this guy that bitcoinbugs don't trust ANY national currencies, not just USD?
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