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2061  Economy / Speculation / Re: is bitcoin rises high contineue in future next month? on: January 31, 2020, 09:27:25 AM
bitcoin stable last few days ,but now sudden high touches, 9100 $ . what will be imagine in next month feb-2020 Huh

This is the start of the Bull Run I guess since the BTC halving is soon to come. the best way to Buy BTC is now. we need to ride this Bull run as soon as possible to be able to join the whales these coming months. you don't need to worry if the price will suddenly fall after this pump. you just need to wait for the uptrend again to sell your BTC. so it's a win-win situation for all of us. I wish I have some funds to buy some BTC now.
Hard to say still. No one knows when will halving occur and there's no assurance that the market value will be continuously rising on the following months to come. There was an increase recently which was followed by a sudden decrease in the market value of Bitcoin. This is enough to tell that the market situation is hard to predict. With that being said, assuming something big will happen is an absurd thing. Be careful on investing an amount and make sure you are not afraid of the drawbacks.
2062  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's over $9000! on: January 28, 2020, 01:37:24 PM
It's good to witness that bitcoin value is now surpassing $9k level and same thing with many people, I also hoping that it will going to continue and
target another new barrier. Let's not look backwards to avoid another corrections, let the upwards movement continue and bring more positive growth
to our investment.

I bought my first bit of bitcoin today just before the rise in value. I kinda want it to go down a bit (sorry guys) so I can accumulate more.
But it would be better if the price will continue rising right? Although if that's the case you would be forced to buy at a higher price, but, profit is rest assured if and only if the price will continuously increase. So at this moment, profit still is not assured from your investment since you decided to buy at this point, unless real recovery occur few days from now. This simply implicates that you may buy even if the price do not fall a little from its value at this moment because samething would happen whether you will earn profit once recovery occur or lose once it again continuously fall.
2063  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC could reach 6 figures (rational explanation) on: January 28, 2020, 12:37:22 PM


The challenge to get into six-figure level can be so big that maybe we should stop thinking that it can happen within just 2 or even 5 years...we should allot more budget of time for this level to come into reality. Right now, there are many "problems" associated with Bitcoin but as for me things all boil down to the level of demand for this said cryptocurrency. We know that it has a limited supply of around 21 millions and this can be fixed so it is on the side of demand and use-cases where the biggest challenge is. Personally, I am allowing maybe 15 years as conservatively the time needed for BTC to reach the 6-figure zone (based on how things are going on right now), that is if Bitcoin will not be dead before it reached the line.

I respect your opinion. But you are talking from what you believe & not from solid arguments or real rationalisation.

What you are saying can be applied to every moment before each halving or bullrun in BTC history. All those rising prices have been insane & people who predicted correctly where called crazy. Why shouldn't the price behave the same way towards the future? ..
I'd more believe that what happened in particular with the increase in the past is by due demand in that period only and not because there is an interval or whatsoever. The market price increase is canmot be predicted and controlled especially those which lasted for a period of time. The behavior of the price of Bitcoin does depend on the market situation itself, the differences could be resulted by volatility of the market in nature.
2064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in Silence on: January 28, 2020, 11:29:11 AM
trading is for those who have much time
that is not true, trading can be adjusted to your time, if you are a busy person and don't have much time you can choose long term trading, You can trade once a week or even once a month, even the day traders can still trade even if they don't have much time, I am sure, there are no traders who trade every second unless they use trading bots.

Even better - you can even trade manually literally 3-4 times per year if you sold/bought close to peak/bottom and make a few hundred percents of ROI within even a couple of months.
Maybe he is referring to being updated with the market value of a crypto. One investor could freely trade whenever he would want to, but, there are hours where market value are increasing which is a must not be missed, for small time traders. Also, in such way , a trader would be able to trade to the fullest, which also means that profit will be bigger than to just wait for the 'total' increase or period of increase just to earn profit.
2065  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can you guys identify Whale move? on: January 28, 2020, 09:55:54 AM
Many times I tried to analyze the behavior of whales in individual coins, especially with regard to volumes, and each time nothing came out.
Everything seems pointless, so I quit this venture. The only thing you can focus on is how and when the whales gain their positions.
This simply proves how volatile the market is and whale movements cannot be determined or identified. It does depend on the whales whether they would move out their large holdings of Bitcoins from an exchanger to another exchanger or whatsoever. What i am pointing out is that, they have their own perfect timing of doing so because the market is way unpredictable and also, whales cannot take full control of the market , but they would be able to move the price for a short period of time.
2066  Economy / Speculation / Re: Now that we touched $8,000, what's next? on: January 28, 2020, 09:10:46 AM
Bitcoin is having a small run, we just touched at $8000 as per Binance record, its 24 hours high is $8000.

https://www.binance.com/en/trade/BTC_USDT

What do you guys think that will happen next? is this the bull run we are long waiting?

I am not yet sure if this can mean that the big bull run we are waiting for is already knocking at the door. I am attributing this to the conflict between the USA and Iran (though some might argue this) but when this factor will be losing the steam there is still that possibility that it can even go as low as $6,000. Let's hope that this can be holding on and together with the influence of the halving Bitcoin can go beyond the $10,000 mark.
But it seems that breaking such market value barrier is too soon. The market value of Bitcoin have reached a price of more than $9000 recently but it is now falling. The increase have been caused by the tension between iran and US, and the moment it cooled, the price suddenly starts to fall. The bottomline is, the market value is naturallu volatile, so we just cannot make an assumption that its price will continuously increase just because there is a mild uprise.
2067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 10 Reasons Why Bitcoin Is Strong Today And Will Continue To Grow on: January 27, 2020, 12:01:31 PM
6. As larger corporations start offering Bitcoin as a payment alternative, smaller companies waiting in the shadows will jump on the bandwagon.
It's sure that this will happen in the future. The small enterprises are just waiting for the signal of these large companies to start accepting bitcoin. Once they are already in, this will create a chain effect.

I'm already imagining the scenario that once an online or known tech company starts doing it, the effect would be vast.
Won't it be troublesome for those companies in the future if they would accept Bitcoin as an alternative payment? because the market value is volatile, accepting the payment from people would also make these companies invest in Bitcoin since it would be in crypto form, unless they would convert it to fiat. I am just confused on how will they cope up with the loss especially whenever the market price of Bitcoin is falling, since waiting is abit of a downside when it comes to a business perhaps.
2068  Economy / Speculation / Re: [2020-01-25] Can Bitcoin Price Hit $424,000 Sometime in Late 2021? on: January 27, 2020, 10:52:16 AM
a lot of people's expectations about 2021 that the price of bitcoin will take the highest price and reach ATH in the next year, but back to all those who hold bitcoin now, do they only hold it, give a little time to introduce bitcoin to people around you, at least it can help bitcoin and the crypto market continue to grow into large also bring in a lot of adoptions that will make value big in the future, don't expect prices to touch $ 400k if this method is not done from now on

From now on many people have introduced bitcoin to the public so that they know more about the benefits of investing in this coin especially by talking about the increase in the following year, this year too many have predicted prices before halving occurs.
2021 will be a good year where we will see the growth of bitcoin more rapidly throughout the world.
yes that's what is expected and not just making speculations, making hopes will not help to make an impact on the price of bitcoin, start now campaigning about bitcoin and analysis for next year to people out there, I also invite some people at my workplace to learn about bitcoin and blockchain technology, introducing how it works and it will be very helpful to push new people into the crypto world
The point here is that, these people who are making unrealistic assumptions of how high the market value of Bitcoin would reach in the future, are just pushing many people to invest with hopes of earning huge profit someday. But this is totally wrong, many people are being carried away to much, but also, since the market value is volatile, they are becoming disappointed whenever the market value is dipping. Many people are losing huge money because they don't know the 'game' in this industry.
2069  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2020 price predictions on: January 27, 2020, 09:12:51 AM
Most of the predictions are right here, I mean whoever said Bitcoin price will go 20K USD maximum, their prediction has a big chance to be real. Though their lowest amount prediction seems too low so I disagree there. My personal opinion is Bitcoin price may hit 20-25K USD maximum and 5K USD will be minimum at the end of 2020! I don't believe those 30K, 50K, 200K USD predictions, those predictions don't make sense at all.

So you mean that bitcoin will cross its all time high this year 2020 ? If this happens it will be a great news for everyone. I belive that bitcoin will reach 50K not this year, but in 2021 December.

I think December Year 2017 = December Year 2021
This is quite unrealistic if we would base on the market behavior at this moment. There was indeed an uprise recently which got the hopes up for most of the investors. But making an assumption based from the short recovery, will result to absurd speculations. Just observe how slowly, the market price of Bitcoin right now is falling. This simply implicates that the increase is again not continuous and drawing conclusions of its market value to be that high few months from now, is hard to believe.
2070  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I lost all my bitcoin on: January 26, 2020, 02:06:17 PM
I dont understand why there are still people like you who has lost the invested amount in Bitcoin going for a long term holding. I mean, holding and monitoring the market every now and then isn't a hard task to do.
Most cases like this happened to those who rush and trade to earn good profit. It's never easy to trade btw, specifically short or day trading. Now, compose yourself up move on, recover and then decide.
they are the one who are looking for easy money and they think bitcoin can give it to them easily. There is no easy money it needs time and effort monitoring price movement before you can earn profit from your investment . Loosing is also part of investment so if you experience the lost move on and take it as a lesson.
Losing is quite certain especially from an investment that is why there is a belief that you should invest only an amount you can afford losing because there is a risk. There is no such thing as an assured profit especially in crypto wherein volatility is in nature of the market. Also do not get cartied away by the opinion of the majority such that "the market price will reach $$$$$$ at the end of the month" simply because no one could really predict how will the market behave.
2071  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price. Will go up? or Will go down below $8600? over the night on: January 26, 2020, 01:22:58 PM

Hey guys. It's been almost two days that Bitcoin price stays still.
I am on the tipping point of whether or not to buy Bitcoin now around $8650..
What do you guys think?
If you can embrace the risk then why not? We do have all the control if we would buy into these levels or not.

We do saw that the price had tanked and stayed on 8500 price but we cant be sure if there would be a pullback or would
head up on 5 digit price.Its totally unpredictable if i were to say and this had been always the question of many.


Many people are now scared to invest because after a continuous uprise happened recently, they got their hopes up and now that thr market value is again falling, it confuses them to do their thing. Keep in mind how volatile the market is and decide if you are ready to take risk in order to earn profit at the end. The market behavior is way unpredictable so be sure that the amount that you would invest is an amount you can afford losing. Just think twice or mofe becore engaging yourselves because regret is painful to experience.
2072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Held a bitcoin seminar today on: January 26, 2020, 12:41:49 PM
one day bitcoin will be recognized by itself even without being promoted, in the social media group that I joined, almost nobody even promoted the introduction of bitcoin, but its members continue to grow, but if anyone wants to promote bitcoin, maybe bitcoin will develop faster.

But be you aware that if we don't promote it, that day may never come.
Bitcoin have already established a large community of users and that is why it is on top in this industry. There are even times wherein Bitcoin is beinf referred to as crypto itself for those who are not aware of other coins. This simply proves how popular it is, and promoting it , is not that necessary unlike before wherein onlu few countries recognize its existence. In my opinion, development would follow many countries' adaptation of blockchain technology and not only on the basis of popularity by means of promotions.
2073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright claims , today will be the last day for Bitcoins. on: January 26, 2020, 12:05:13 PM
Do we really need a new topic on this convicted criminal and scammer every day?

The problem is he's making up shit almost every day, rather than people posting new topics about it.
We do not really need to respond into his opinions or whatsoever, that's his freedom in the first place. There are things that doesn't need our reaction everytime especially when the answer into it is obvious. Bitcoin is a decentralized crypto and no one can really do something for it to be gone in a sudden given how many teams are supporting it at this moment. It does even seem that he is trolling with the new ones in this industry or those who react that much everytime.
2074  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term bullish run is now over, and it was most likely a failed rally on: January 26, 2020, 11:06:47 AM


A picture is worth a thousand words


Now, my advice: look at the price line since October 25 when the price was at 10.4k USD, the trend was never bullish. However it was very possible to make nice money (started several threads to recommend buying at 6.5kish in November and December).

Important price next: 8.5k, we go below and we see 7k most likely again.


Sad but true image.  Cry
Rally has broken and price may decline from here. But I don't agree with your $8.5K mark. It is evident from the chart that break point will be between $7800-8000. As far as price is above $8K, market may move sideways for next few days and may result in new rally if someone inject buy orders into the market.
Some are saying that the increase in the market value of Bitcoin is caused by the tension between US and Iran and the moment it cooled down, the market value of Bitcoin stopped increasing. I would say that it is just coincidence and the market itself is just volatile. The markrt price is now falling, and the bottomline is what would investors do? Will they sell at this point to cut further losses? Or They would stick with the plan of holding? I would say trust onto the process and be patient. Backdrops after an uprise is not new in this industry.
2075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bank, Necessary? on: January 26, 2020, 10:17:45 AM

If there any kind of illegal activities involved in that transaction then if there is bitcoin bank exist over there then some kind of transactions may be stop by the bank.

Sounds like a joke. Bitcoin is a decentralized coin. If it becomes centralized then what is the point? you mean to say the coin should loss its unique property?
Maybe he is pointing out regulation. But in the first place, cryptos are sometimes used in illegal transactions due to the anonymity blockchain technology is having. Decentralization is in nature of Bitcoin which contradicts the concept of banks , therefore it is quite impossible. Also, there are cryptowallets wherein a user may store his investments and holdings which is already secured. To sum it up, there's no need for a Bitcoin Bank.
2076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sigh... Do i need to hold or sell it? Quite tricky situation. on: January 26, 2020, 09:43:25 AM
But I need a money until Feb 22nd.
What do you guys anticipate in BTC price until next month?

it doesn't matter what price you predict could be reached, you should have never invest what you could afford to lose or the money that you needed. so the answer is to sell now and only invest the money that you don't need (can live without).
for example instead of 1.2BTC or ~$10k you can invest $2k that way you are taking a smaller risk while still having an investment in bitcoin.
It does depend on the investor's mindset. If you are an investor, you decide what's best for you or what would give you profit. Bitcoin and other cryptos are naturally volatile and with that being said, risk do always exist whenever its market value moves, because no one know if it would be an uprise or backdrops that would happen for 'tomorrow'. So if you want to assure that you won't lose that much, seeling at this point won't be a bad idea. But if you are determined enough to risk, wait and profit will be earned.
2077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So...Is Bitcoin the ultimate coin that does not need more development? on: January 25, 2020, 04:41:39 PM
Who said bitcoin is on its maximum development? It's still being developing all time and there are a lot of space to grow for developing.

Can we still expect better coin than Bitcoin?
If we think about different features of bitcoin with some other existing coin, they are better. You can get a better coin but you can not get the most decentralized coin.
Most of the cryptos are decentralized if I'm not wrong because of the concept of blockchain technology. Bitcoin still is on the process of development despite of its market value at this moment and the community that it have established. Once adaptation became widely implemented, things could go better not only for Bitcoin but also to this industry.There are lot of developments that could make Bitcoin a better crypto, and in general aspect.
2078  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How I Crypto on: January 25, 2020, 03:08:00 PM
My income for my life comes from cryptocurrency, but if I shop for daily needs I still use my country's currency because where I live Bitcoin is not a payment instrument authorized by the country, so too many people here who do not know bitcoin.
I'ts nice hear stories that their money were all come from crypto and that they are able to sustain they're living. when Im unemployed before bounty and a bit of trading really helps me to live during my unemployment days.
Simply proves how profitable cryptos are, especially before when the market value are still at its peak unlike at this moment wherein it has jist started to recover from continuous market downfall before. The scenario affected the profit that most of the people here are earning. Many investments turned into loss and many signature campaigns turned out to be a waste of time. Since we are seeing recovery, hope it will again be as profitable or more profitable.
2079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin moves like Gold? on: January 25, 2020, 01:14:33 PM
I think it's just a coincidence. if the price of bitcoin is in harmony with the price of gold, there is a possibility that the price of gold is already very high, but it is not, because even though bitcoin and gold are investment tools, they really have different principles. so the level of fluctuation is very different.
Yeah I agree, this is just a coincidence, in past, I also think that the price of Bitcoin is in line with the price of gold, Because at that time the price movement of Bitcoin was the same as the price of gold, and it turned out it was just a coincidence. Bitcoin price fluctuations are higher than gold price fluctuations.
If you would clearly observe both Bitcoin and Gold's market value movement, there is a huge difference in particular with consistency and the market value itself. The market price of Gold is continuously growing the same with Bitcoin but its market price is more consistent with the uprise unlike with the market value of Bitcoin which is more volatile and have experienced more market price downfall. This is simply the difference between stock and crypto investment.
2080  Economy / Speculation / Re: should I buy now? on: January 25, 2020, 09:36:52 AM
Buying now will likely bring you very large profits in the next 2 years. Do your own research though, nobody here is an oracle.

2 years is a long term. You can try to buy it now, then hold it for a long time, surely it will be a huge profit because bitcoin will increase in the next 2 years.
And the OP must be sure about it because if you are not sure you will definitely sell it halfway.
Bitcoin is indeed worthy of an investment but do note the market volatility, with that being said, expect inconsistent profit given that its market value will not always go up because there are still times of downfall which is unpredictable. If you would aim for longterm investment be sure to ready yourself to be patient at times of backdrops with regards to its market value. But focusing at this moment's market behavior, it is a good sign to invest since it has just started its uprise motion.
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