7. Matthew N. Write, while Editor in Chief of Bitcoin Magazine, and likely also the heart and soul of it, when posting on this forum is expressing his own opinions which are not necessarily the same as opinions of Bitcoin Magazine or its publisher. Matthew does not own a controlling stake in the company. Bitcoin Magazine is a product of collaboration of fairly large team.
You could greatly increase the reputation of your magazine by removing Matthew from his position. Myself, like many others, won't be going near your publication while he is around. |
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It was a genuine mistake on my part. Apologies again to mlawrence and LoupGaroux.
No worries. I can only wish to be as well written as LG. |
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Without blaming anyone, I would like to suggest a better way to handle similar situations in the future:
Release about half of the information to the suspect privately, and give him 12 hours to explain himself. This way you can use his explanation to check against the other half of the evidence, to determine whether it's a made up story or plausible truth.
After 12 hours, post the full evidence alongside with the explanation in public. It also protects privacy and encourages the community to act in a neutral manner.
I never understood why you wanted to protect the privacy of a person you claim framed you for a $500,000 theft. Do whatever you want Zhou, but I am posting right now to tell you this: With the interest I have received, we should be hiring a PI early next week. This PI will locate you in Australia and allow us to file an official theft complaint with the Australian police. It will then be between you and the police to determine if "Chen" does indeed exist. If he doesn't, YOU will be the one going to prison for several years. If he does happen to exist, then you can be fully exonerated in the community, and we can turn our attention on him. Be advised that the police are not going to accept your wish to keep his identity secret. This one simple step is going to flush all the bullshit stories that have been floating around this forum. |
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A police report from China really isn't what you think it would be. If like me, you live in a Western country and have a decent police force you might be mistaken in thinking that this would be a good way to go about things.
In China, you can 'influence' how a police officer sees things with something as simple as a carton of cigarettes. If you don't want to deal with a strong headed police officer then you can see the political head of that region and explain to them why the matter should go away. Also, when you're not present locally, it would be very hard to make a report, especially for something so complex.
It's one thing for the local police in China to deal with a local theft of physical goods but it's quite another for them to deal with a crypto-currency with multiple international jurisdictions.
While all this may be true, it doesn't stop Zhou from filing a police report. However, no matter how corrupt, the police would probably ask simple questions like "What is his name?, what is his phone number? " etc. Since Zhou would be unable to provide this, the police would quickly realize Zhou is making this guy up. You and I can't demand Zhou provide proof, but they would certainly demand proof when Zhou filed an official report. This is why until Zhou files a police report, a reasonable person has to assume he is making it all up. |
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Your bitcoins ultimately rely on the government to maintain the electrical grid and internet infrastructure, this is one of the reasons pro-big government folks like myself like them so much. When people use currency like gold or ammunition in the event of an emergency they can trade and barter with it freely, when we use bitcoins control of the market is in the hands of the government.
 ROFL - That is the most bang-on post I've read here today! And it's funny too. Thanks for making my evening! Wish I could contribute more to this thread, but I'm only building a multi-family survival site in Northern Alberta.  |
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And what contribution exactly did he make to the MAGAZINE? He donated money in 2011 to BitTalk TV which was used in part for the Christmas special. The magazine had yet to have been announced at this point and the money was long gone before any work was started on it. ZERO funds from Zhou have gone into the magazine and he has ZERO stake in the company. That is a fact.
I'll accept that. |
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You better get used to invasion Zhou, cause it's going to get a lot worse.
Where I come from we don't let people steal half a million dollars and get away with it.
That's all I'm going to say about that anymore, since I'm not going to incriminate myself further. I'm not letting him get away with it - I'm hiring a PI to bring him to justice and he will spend years in prison. "Invasion" will become a nightly thing for him. Thanks for producing that quote and showing everyone I never really threatened anyone. Have a great afternoon!  |
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Both of you, stop your private war here. It gets annoying. People who repeatedly write on public message boards are usually not the ones you have to be afraid about. If I was one of the Intersango people, or Zhou Tong, I'd be very worried about the angry people out there who are still trying to get back what belongs to them. Mobs are prejudiced and tend to do stupid things. Whoever is in control should have done anything in their might to prevent that from happening. Someone warned here about the first Bitcoin related violence/worse and I hope it never happens, but seriously, Bitcoin is money and money is Bitcoin. It wouldn't be different from any other crime related to money. Bitcoin has never been innocent by the way, or did you guys forget about silk road already?
Holy shit - you just threatened to kill Zhou Tong!  When Rarity comes down she may realize I never threatened anybody. Or she may not. But I trust the reasonable forum members know what is going on here. |
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I'm sorry that I have to take a firm hand on this, and I know as a young man you resent authority figures, but threats against another member of this forum are simply not appropriate. You have to grow up.
You refuse to quote it because it doesn't exist. Game over - you lose. |
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I hate to break it to you but I work for Bitcoin Magazine. The magazine is in no way supported, bought or even affiliated with Zhou Tong. I'm sure
Are you denying that Zhou made a substantial contribution to your magazine? You can say "It's been quoted" again a few times, that doesnt make it true somehow.
I read the whole frickin' story and never saw mlawrence threatening to injure/kill anyone anywhere. Thank you - I wonder how Maged managed to see something that exists only in Rarity's delusions? |
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I have no need to quote it here as anyone can simply go read the comments when they were originally posted
Where? No such comments exist. Why not quote them here? Wait a few hours until your buzz subsides before you post again. |
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The problem I see is that the forum, the bitcoin magazine, and every other bitcoin outlet out there has been bought and paid for by Zhou Tong. He was smart that way. Whatever information you are able to produce, will be dismissed by the forum. You can clearly see that people like Rarity, Matthew and Maged have received, and/or continue to receive, stolen funds to quell any uprising. It's unfortunate that this theft has split the community the way it has.  I'm not sure why how "the forum" regards information is relevant if the purpose of retaining a private investigator is to obtain location information so that those who wish to file criminal or civil complaints are able to set those complaints in motion. The validity of those complaints isn't going to be investigated by "the forum" (which is divided on the issues anyway), so whether the forum dismisses the information is largely irrelevant anyway. That is how I replied. I'm taking the forum out of the equation by giving the address and name to the people who are pressing charges. It doesn't matter if 99% of the forum feels Zhou is innocent - the police are going to look right past that bullshit, examine the evidence presented on the first post of this thread, and put the little thief in prison. |
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Come on Rarity - the thread was supposedly deleted cause I have a "HISTORY" of threatening him - that must mean I have threatened him before, right?
Find one threat and I'll shut up. Just one little quote, or it didn't happen, no matter how many times you say it did.
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I have already quoted the offending comments in this thread, and Matthew quoted the deleted one you are trying to pretend doesn't exist like a guilty child. Having a tantrum about it and insulting the integrity of the moderators will not change what happened. Grownups take responsibility for our actions, and one day you will learn that.
Then you will have no problem quoting it here again. Otherwise, it didn't happen. |
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It has already been quoted and the mods decided to shut down your thread. Stop acting like a six year old pretending you can get out of what you did with a tantrum.
What has already been quoted? You're telling me your only evidence is something that was deleted? I'm telling you it never happened, and I am of sound mind and body. Stop acting like a child and produce the quote or STFU - I have never threatened anybody. |
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It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too. FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere. Replying "NUH-UH!" and whinging about the mods bitchslapping you down is not going to change what you did.
Do you have a link to the quote? Did you read it when you were high? |
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It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too. FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.
There ya go - I never threatened anybody. |
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It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too. FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.
Quote, or it never happened! |
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Because the person running it has threatened violence against him.
Quote, or it never happened, and you are just being paid to libel me. |
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My topic was moved to the trashcan because Zhou Tong has donated a lot of funds to the forum. I have never once threatened to do the thief any harm - I simply pointed out what happens to people who steal so much money. A difference that Maged cannot understand. You are dealing with "agreements behind doors". Absolutely. I received this part in an email from one of the PI interested parties: The problem I see is that the forum, the bitcoin magazine, and every other bitcoin outlet out there has been bought and paid for by Zhou Tong. He was smart that way. Whatever information you are able to produce, will be dismissed by the forum. You can clearly see that people like Rarity, Matthew and Maged have received, and/or continue to receive, stolen funds to quell any uprising. It's unfortunate that this theft has split the community the way it has. |
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