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2081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 24, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
Currently the total daily airdrop is 2500 Gems, will be raised to 25,000 daily Gems said Daniel.
2082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 24, 2015, 02:32:27 PM
So in 30 days on iOS 32k people have checked out the app which is a growth of 105% and from the visitors 1/3 have downloaded the app which is a growth of 88%. That's pretty damn impressive for a Crypto related app that's not Bitcoin.

On a side note those who haven't joined GetGems groups are missing some valuable discussions, those wanting to join send me your nick since there is activity there aswell.
2083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 24, 2015, 01:58:19 PM
Android has more then 10K downloads: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app&hl=en

iOS has more than 20K downloads, 9244 downloads in the last 30 days:


Made my day! Userbase is growing nicely, more downloads means more people hesitate less to download.
2084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 06:51:23 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.

Sure you can...

on fb  - supported internally
    whatsapp - ping pay (might be india only, not sure)
    reddit  - changetip
    twitter - changetip
    snapchat - supported internally (snapcash)
    instagram - noidea

and others with one account (one bank account or cc account? What do you mean)

Changetip now supports US$ and 12 social sites. They also support private email, sms, skype. I'd say change tip has quite the lead in this space.

There's also google wallet which I use and paypal.

Pk allows with 1 account to make payments anywhere u use your keyboard. That mean its not limited to a couple social platforms but all of them, thousands, every social app, 90% of these apps dont have payments, pk makes that possible. Whatsapp payment is india only so useless for many people. With pk you also dont have to register with each and every platform seperately to use payments.
2085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 05:53:40 PM
The point I was trying to make is that using social media for payments isn't new and until you can use keypay anywhere to me it's just vaporware.

It's still new, its not long ago fb announced payments and its for us users only, but the idea of making payments with blockchain technology is very new. Its a niche that has a bright future. paykey pretty much perfects the shortcomings of the current services, its not officially out yet but im looking forward to the beta.
2086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 05:37:49 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.
yes u can, its called changetip plus like he said people r already sending money without the need for social media.

No you can't, i just downloaded the app, its fb and twitter only! Without the need? and how did u measure this? Also its pretty new, but trust me paying within social media will be the future.
https://www.changetip.com/send-tips, the above poster said people were already sending money with their phones so my point is that you don't need social media to do this

Again, paykey allows you to make payments within different social medias with 1 account, changetip only offers fb and twitter, no whatsapp, no snapchat, no instagram no reddit (from the app), no pinterest, no others.
I count 12 different social media sites changetip can use, it doesnt matter if it's web or app based, it is still using social media. By the way, how many social media sites have you used paykey on? Oh that's right, it's not even out yet.

Ofcourse it matters, more and more use social media constantly from their mobile device. You cant take a desktop or laptop with you everywhere and access it on the fly can you.
Not sure about you but my phone has a web browser and it works with the changetip site

People prefer downloading an app version of a service on their smartphone, visiting web version on a smarthphone isnt intuitive at all, i just tried it and the first thing it asks you is to download the app version for my smartphone.

Changetip webversion supports reddit, twitter, email, sms and skype - smarthphone version twitter and fb.

Paykey will work anywhere you use your keyboard, so to my previous list i can add tons of others. Not even comparable to changetip regarding where you can spend money.
Now look at who is spreading fud, look at this link and see what what the web version supports https://www.changetip.com/send-tips It works the same for mobile devices. Its just asking u to sign up with one of those accounts much like you will have to signup with paykey

I see it now, should have tapped on the see everywhere that you can tip. but still no match for paykey, very limited options. No whatsapp, snapchat, instagram, viber, wechat, line and so many others.

You can pay anywhere u use your keyboard with paykey, its just genius, im not even overreacting. I can fully understand why they kept it under the radar, competitors would have just steel the idea and released it sooner under their own brand.
2087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 05:25:41 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.
yes u can, its called changetip plus like he said people r already sending money without the need for social media.

No you can't, i just downloaded the app, its fb and twitter only! Without the need? and how did u measure this? Also its pretty new, but trust me paying within social media will be the future.
https://www.changetip.com/send-tips, the above poster said people were already sending money with their phones so my point is that you don't need social media to do this

Again, paykey allows you to make payments within different social medias with 1 account, changetip only offers fb and twitter, no whatsapp, no snapchat, no instagram no reddit (from the app), no pinterest, no others.
I count 12 different social media sites changetip can use, it doesnt matter if it's web or app based, it is still using social media. By the way, how many social media sites have you used paykey on? Oh that's right, it's not even out yet.

Ofcourse it matters, more and more use social media constantly from their mobile device. You cant take a desktop or laptop with you everywhere and access it on the fly can you.
Not sure about you but my phone has a web browser and it works with the changetip site

People prefer downloading an app version of a service on their smartphone, visiting web version on a smarthphone isnt intuitive at all, i just tried it and the first thing it asks you is to download the app version for my smartphone.

Changetip webversion supports reddit, twitter, email, sms and skype - smarthphone version twitter and fb.

Paykey will work anywhere you use your keyboard, so to my previous list i can add tons of others. Not even comparable to changetip regarding where you can spend money.
2088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 05:03:00 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.
yes u can, its called changetip plus like he said people r already sending money without the need for social media.

No you can't, i just downloaded the app, its fb and twitter only! Without the need? and how did u measure this? Also its pretty new, but trust me paying within social media will be the future.
https://www.changetip.com/send-tips, the above poster said people were already sending money with their phones so my point is that you don't need social media to do this

Again, paykey allows you to make payments within different social medias with 1 account, changetip only offers fb and twitter, no whatsapp, no snapchat, no instagram no reddit (from the app), no pinterest, no others.
I count 12 different social media sites changetip can use, it doesnt matter if it's web or app based, it is still using social media. By the way, how many social media sites have you used paykey on? Oh that's right, it's not even out yet.

Ofcourse it matters, more and more use social media constantly from their mobile device. You cant take a desktop or laptop with you everywhere and access it on the fly can you.
2089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.
yes u can, its called changetip plus like he said people r already sending money without the need for social media.

No you can't, i just downloaded the app, its fb and twitter only! Without the need? and how did u measure this? Also its pretty new, but trust me paying within social media will be the future.
https://www.changetip.com/send-tips, the above poster said people were already sending money with their phones so my point is that you don't need social media to do this

Again, paykey allows you to make payments within different social medias with 1 account, changetip only offers fb and twitter, no whatsapp, no snapchat, no instagram no reddit (from the app), no pinterest, no others.
2090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 04:38:12 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.
yes u can, its called changetip plus like he said people r already sending money without the need for social media.

No you can't, i just downloaded the app, its fb and twitter only! Trust me paying within social media will be the future. Why do u think banks are interested?
2091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 04:21:38 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think the interest for this innovation.


You can't make people use something, it's magic sauce that if you could bottle everyone would be billionaires. 99.9% of apps fail. I've been living in China for last year, we have so many ways to send money now, no one cares. Most people semd money to a few friends anyway or to buy something.

Paykey is for those who use multiple social platforms and dont want to use multiple accounts, credit cards, personal information for each and every social media they use. 1 account access to them all, if it wasnt useful no company would be interested in this. For me its very useful.

Not to mention on the majority of these social media, even some of the biggest once you cant transfer money, paykey allows you to do that.
2092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 03:59:43 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.


I can send my friends money in many ways with my phone already, everyone's doing it on my campus, seems like the only unique thing about this is the crypto.

But you cant send money on fb, whatsapp, reddit, twitter, snapchat, instagram and others with one account. social media has the most users, if it catches on your campus will be using this if they use multiple social media platforms. Such thing afaik doesnt exist yet, why do u think there is interest for this innovation. The crypto and fiat world has never seen such technology.
2093  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Storing money on Smartphone is far more secure than desktop or laptop on: November 23, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
iOS is more secure than Android btw. If you want Android with better security get the new Blackberry Priv running Android thats been out recently.

Breadwallet ceo:

RVC: I've read that mobile wallets should only be used for pocket change. How much money can I safely keep on my phone at one time?

It's ironic, because many people don't realize that their smartphones are actually the most secure computing device they own, far more secure than desktop or laptop systems. It's wallets that can be accessed from the web or desktop that should really only be used for pocket change.

An iPhone uses the same techniques of app sandboxing and enforced code signatures that dedicated hardware wallets use. The phone is also hardware encrypted so your funds are strongly protected even if it's physically stolen. The US DOJ even complains publicly that the phones are too secure. Some people prefer to keep large amounts in paper wallets, but for someone who doesn't have a strong technical knowledge of bitcoin, misunderstanding how change addresses work can result in total loss, so they're not really suitable for the general public. There was recently a $1M dollar bounty offered for a remote jailbreak of iOS, and the winner ended up having to use an exploit in the chrome app, so if we assume markets are efficient, then in theory it should be safe to keep at least $1M in breadwallet (if you don't use chrome).
2094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 23, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
If they only released a Gemz Paykey I bet the price of Gemz would be 10x what it is now. I doubt they will crack the online payment business, too many already doing it. Seems like a lose lose for everyone.

Doing what? Allowing payments within different social media platforms with 1 account? Don't know any, its damn well thought.
2095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 22, 2015, 11:29:27 PM
Yes wondering the same first it was 1 gemz to withdraw, i think they are discouraging people to withdraw to earn more trading fees.
2096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 21, 2015, 10:54:35 AM
@iaminitnow06 +1 good to see someone else gets it. can I add though there is NO plan for AE on Fiat, The attention economy would only work inside Getgems app as far as I understand.


I see no and even no movement at all in the direction of the original vision. As you said having getgems and btc on one is a start and delaying USD. But do you think they want to even slightly damage their cash flow?
Once you assume they are just thinking out their 5% and how they can maximise that all their decisions are perfectly clear to me at least.


There are various options that would benefit the gems community,

1. Getgems with BTC in one app. At least the Bitcoinuser base is bigger than the miniscule one for Gemz..

2. Do not White label...simply give the advantage to crypto to build the market and the and only then allow banks to work though the app. This would mean getgems does great and so do investors....again I see they didnt want to risk revenue streams for that Bitcoin nonsense.

3. ok give your tech away white label but at the very least delay that for a year or more or till getgems builds some kind of following, 30,000 even 100,000 simply isn't enough to build an attention economy. you need to have a million or more to have anyone bother to advertise to you, let's be real now.



I see not even a hint that the team are putting our investments or the vision of Bitcoin for the masses into the equation. It's hard to hold Daniel to what he has done, he can go politician and make it seem like he hasn't but anyone with common sense knows it's black and white, they went for fiat revenue over all other things including US as a community or the wider Bitcoin community....which is why I suggest they leave this forum which they built their funding and early following.,,,only to turn around and abandon.

Now you are being more reasonable here and i agree to some points. To be honest i would like gems, btc and fiat aswell but is fiat integration even possible since banks dont want crypto?

Daniel if its not possible not whitelabeling it, point 1 and 3 are good suggestions Daniel. Gems and btc must be in the same app for pay key, this is an absolute must.

Daniel since you will be releasing paykey beta for getgems very soon do you have an eta when paykey for fiat only will be released, some delay like point 3 made above would be helpful.

Paykey + AE = Great for gems, bank will have NO AE from what i have gathered.
2097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 21, 2015, 01:15:40 AM
Dear Daniel, GG investors and users, please stop the war, take a break and read these articles  Wink :

"WeChat Partners With Western Union"

"As a result of this partnership between WeChat and Western Union, users of the app can now send money around the world – or to roughly 200 countries at last – by using the WU Connect platform. Even though WeChat might not be the first social app to launch cross-border payments through social media, it is in a prime position to become the market leader in this sector very soon.
“Given the proliferation of social media around the world, we are expanding our activities in this exciting area. It only makes sense to include the WeChat platform as part of the company’s innovative digital money transfer capabilities.” – Western Union CEO Hikmet Ersek stated."

http://moneyandtech.com/online-bank-social-media-feature-hitting-big/

"Western Union Introduces WU Connect Platform, Expanding Cross-Border Money Transfer via Mobile and Social Media"

"The Western Union Company (NYSE: WU), a leader in global payment solutions, today launched WU® ConnectSM, an innovative technology platform that integrates with leading consumer messaging and social media platforms to give users a unique way to quickly and conveniently transfer money worldwide....."

http://ir.westernunion.com/News/Press-Releases/Press-Release-Details/2015/Western-Union-Introduces-WU-Connect-Platform-Expanding-Cross-Border-Money-Transfer-via-Mobile-and-Social-Media/default.aspx

In conclusion, forget about Paykey with fiat and let's come back to our main goal: Attention Economy

AE is actually bigger than PayKey imo, PayKey makes it just perfect and makes sure the Gems token that are needed for ads can be transacted globally on all social media platforms.
2098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 20, 2015, 10:08:20 PM
how is the messaging done? i was told this was telegram based, is this correct?

Yes, www.getgems.org

Soon you can use Gems on other social media platforms aswell.
2099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 20, 2015, 09:15:23 PM
PEOPLE. ALL HE HAS TO DO TO REDEEM IS ADD GEMZ AND BITCOIN AS A HIDDEN OPTION FOR PAYMENT IN A FIAT VERSION? HE WONT CAUSE HE SOLD OUT TO THE BANKS.

"Hidden" bitcoin/gems payment option in the banks app? you're more delusional than I thought.
Banks won't add bitcoin or gems to their proprietary branded app.
I do think that in the future they will use blockchain technology to transfer value, settlements and more.
(some examples p14-15: http://santanderinnoventures.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/The-Fintech-2-0-Paper.pdf)

I vote fiat, Gemz and Bitcoin are kept in one app version and the tech is not white labelled out to the banks.

It's good you're not the CEO.



Daniel, it depends on the perspective you are looking at. It has become clear that you are only looking at it from your fcking personal perspective. From the community perspective the suggestion would be optimal: I vote fiat, Gemz and Bitcoin are kept in one app version and the tech is not white labelled out to the banks

There has been serious, well justified, claims and discussion on the credibility of GetGems project.

And this is all that the CEO has to say. This is not only disappointing, but very disgusting.

Smells like a sock puppet account,

Let me prove to you how the bold part is wrong.

GetGems has declined the $250,000 prize it won from the 43North business competition. http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2015/11/20/43north-finalist-declines-250-000-prize-buffalo.html

This shows they are not just in it for the money, but rather the most legit guys i have seen from all the alts. You and your buddies are rather disgusting for attacking the goodwill of people here for your own beneficial reasons.
2100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android and iOS on: November 19, 2015, 07:12:59 PM
Thank you Daniel for shining some light to this, very excited to the PayKey beta and test it out. Keep up the great work!
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