Latest posts of: philipma1957

Quote from: QuintLeo on March 13, 2018, 12:14:57 AM

Quote from: citronick on March 12, 2018, 02:01:21 PM

Monero will try to resist by forking but Baikals are FPGAs and can be upgraded (unlike hardcoded ASICs, that probably explains why Bitmain is not even in play for a XMR ASICs).

Seems odd that Baikal would release a FPGA miner at this point, everything else they have done to date was ASIC.

Yeah but maybe they want to chase the forks with firmware updates as FPGA can be programed fairly easily .

This would prove interesting game to see how many forks kill the miner or does the miner hunt done and kill the coin.

Also I have 3 simple mining accounts 20 rigs among them

directed to 4 nicehash addresses.

there is no freaking way I can track all of that unless I do 1 coin.

the addresses are for multiple people I have deals with.

I have many deals that the other person pays power and gets ½ the coins I provide the gear.

it works for both people even with a 1080ti paying only 2 bucks a day.
2 in a rig = 4 bucks x 30 = 120 that is 60 usd each every month. the owner me paid for a rig .

the power guy pays about 10kwatts a day or 300 kwatts a month here in NJ it is 30 in the winter and about 50 in the summer

so 7 months of 30 = 210 + 5 months of 50 = 250 power total is 460 but earning 60 x 12 = 720

so pay 460 in power and earn 720 in coin for the host.

me Pay 2k for the rig and earn 720 each year seems like a bad deal for me but with sales of rigs and timing upgrades I make out. As the 2k gets spent 1 time and gear rotates with sale of it.

so 2 k can earn me 720 for 4 or 5 years. and many days 1080ti's earned 6, 7, 8 ,9 even 10 dollars which really make good money for me and the host.

Quote from: nolan11 on March 12, 2018, 11:41:54 PM

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try with 4 gpus on each miner if it works it is an overload issue

I know sometimes gpus turn on at 100% not say the 70% setting you may have.

so 4 gpus each should keep you under overload.

I will try.

Do you mean about overload the electricity installation at the place
Or you mean the overload of PSU's ?

There is 2x Gold Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 750W per Miner.

The problem is only when for some reason they shut down or freeze.
After that when I try to turn on again, they blow the C type 16 Amps fuse.

When I manage to put them on [the miners], they work very well.

I said sometimes the software settings on the gpu's fail and they draw full power. your freeze and then when you go to turn the gear on it blows the fuse.

I want to see if it happens with 4 gpus on each rig.

If it never fucks up with four cards we can go to next test.
which would I would let you know what to do if 4 + 4 just run.

over 11 to 14
possible issues here

1) a bad riser
2) 6 gpus are too much for a psu
3) you are dropping your driver settings and gpus are going to 100%
4) one bad card
5) bad bios flash if they are amd
6) shitty settings for voltage
7) if all 12 cards are not the same one may cause a conflict --- gigabyte cards sometimes do this as do some asus.
8 ) bad internet connection
9) cards are slowly overheating
10) 1 psu is defective and can not handle the load once it gets too warm.
11) cable short
12) mobo short
13) something I missed

I am testing for number 2 first.

Quote from: GeForce1 on March 12, 2018, 06:52:07 AM

Hi all I have just seen this Ad: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202254404752

Seems like a really good thing to buy I'm just wondering how cheap I can get them for or if you guys/girls think. Good buy if I can get it cheap right?

he will not take paypal for it.

this means he is very likely a scammer.

yeah I will mine and hold.

setup an L3+
I think I will order a second L3+
Dragon mint should send demo soon.

Maybe get 2 -3 avalon 841's

Quote from: nolan11 on March 12, 2018, 10:43:02 PM

Hi all,

I have a problem; 2 Miners /6 GPUs each/, 2 power supplies 750W per Miner.
2 Miners together take less than 1500W.
It is connected to power extension for the current C16 fuse (earlier it was B16 and was changed to exclude something). 16 Amper.
Miners work normally, both. Until I turn off the extension or one of the Miners will freeze (then it also ends with turning off the extension out of electricity).

In addition, the same situation would be if I cut off the remote socket on WiFi which I planned to install.

After switching ON the extension -> it breaks the plugs, it just breaks the previously mentioned C16 fuse.

I need to put it back again manually.
After that, to properly start the Miners - I need to unload the capacitors on disconnected cables by pressing the power Miner button.
Only then, it does start and work without problem.
So I have no idea then... why...

What could be the reason ? Where to look for a fault? What to check?

Poor Risers? Replace the Risers?

Thank you in advance.

try with 4 gpus on each miner if it works it is an overload issue

I know sometimes gpus turn on at 100% not say the 70% setting you may have.

so 4 gpus each should keep you under overload.

Quote from: Goool on March 12, 2018, 05:05:48 PM

No comments ? Shocked

why do you think the baikal giant-n cost only 190 usd to build?

the major problem with asics is they come into small hash markets

1 balaki = 20 amd vegas .

so they sell and flood the market out.

and morons buy the gear. destroying the coin pricee that now mines so easy

Quote from: theodrim on March 12, 2018, 03:32:12 PM

Quote from: Vann on March 12, 2018, 03:24:40 PM

but you need to be careful because the rail/cable on the PSU CPU connector may not be able to handle a high load.

Can you show any psu with separate eps cpu rail and common 12v rail? Didn't heard/see of any with such configuration.

they are around here is one it is old and has six rails. I would not mine with it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/computex-day-1-cooling,1618-8.html

there are newer models

Quote from: grchina on March 12, 2018, 02:15:27 PM

Phill i have a question for you,i follow your threads and most of the time you say that you either point your rigs towards nicehash or you mine zec but dont see you mentioning mining other coins that bring more profit like signatum bitcore and raven durring that period.So i was wondering is there some special reason behind that like you think zec will be huge or you just dont love shitcoins Grin

Work to change coins and holding the coins is a bit too much.
I have mined other coins and I hold a bit. But frankly I do a lot of stuff that consumes time.
Most all my holdings are in btc.

and at this time I am more in cash then other coins.

Quote from: iTzShowTime on March 12, 2018, 02:08:55 PM

start mining those masternode neoscrypt coin's then setup node with coins Grin

That is certainly something that can be done with a bunch of these in a large farm.

Quote from: proteus7 on March 12, 2018, 01:48:30 PM

Using hybrids isn’t smart, too expensive, radiators are a pain to place and you don’t need them.
My first rigs used evga FTW3 non hybrid. I have since switched to blower cards. Just picked up 4 MSI aero oc card for $779 each.

I am tired of deleting these and arguing with you.

You are pulling the thread off topic.

It is nice you found 4 msi aero cards at $779 but 4 cards simply are not the same as 16.

A 16 card rig with p102-100 is for a large mine.

Note my title industrial style miner not mid sized miner.

Quote from: citronick on March 12, 2018, 12:38:22 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on March 12, 2018, 12:34:00 PM

Quote from: arielbit on March 12, 2018, 11:32:57 AM

me? I'm waiting for the next gen top of the line nvidia 2080 ti and buy many and/or wait for 1080 ti panic sell and buy many..call it a year..see you all again for the next big thing hehehe Grin

yeah all I have are 1080ti's so since they are 11gb memory

I would hope for a fork of equihash and of monero maybe a few other al-gore-rythm's will let them keep value.

I may be shifting to sha-256 once I get some dragonmints and maybe avalon 841s

Are 821s .... ASICBOOST certified?

I do not think so. Maybe the 841's are as they spec to lower watts per gh.

Quote from: arielbit on March 12, 2018, 11:32:57 AM

me? I'm waiting for the next gen top of the line nvidia 2080 ti and buy many and/or wait for 1080 ti panic sell and buy many..call it a year..see you all again for the next big thing hehehe Grin

Quote from: Storx on March 12, 2018, 09:36:09 AM

Quote from: citronick on March 12, 2018, 09:04:48 AM

Quote from: Storx on March 12, 2018, 05:42:18 AM

All this talk on ASIC's is really pissing me off, AaronSauce told me that a new ASIC labeled Antminer F3 has showed up on MiningPoolHub as a miner this week mining ETH @213MH/s....

Im worried there is going to be a mass exit on GPU farmers soon, just unsure whats the best way to go anymore...

Baikal N specs.... 20KH/s at 60watts per unit

Currently, the fastest Monero GPU the Vega64 at 2k/s .....

You need 10 x Vega64 to match 1 Baikal N ....

Pointless to compare wattage - FPGA and ASICs will be efficient many folds hands down.

Given the above.... I dont think GPUs will be feasible for long term crypto mining.

I agree, just sucks because the profit is moving from the miners to the Chinese companies, because when i had 3 asic's years ago, when 2 of them broke it took months to get warranty repairs and i lost hundreds in the time it took to get them back.. so that is why ive been all for GPU's over Asics...

amd and nvidia may not care since many moron miners ran card at 110% tdp and killed off cards then sent in rmas.

This may have hurt the industry enough to not guard against asic takeover.

I suspect a huge shakeup once asics kill off the gpus. and if a few al gore rhythm's are left

say equihash p102-100 sold at 600-700 in big moq's may be the only option worth buying. this saves nvidia from lots of rma's since it has short warranty.

Quote from: qwertyking on March 12, 2018, 03:20:05 AM

Im just wondering what is the price of P102-100

I have seen the p102-100 available in bulk buys for 700 a card.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2674194.msg32071657#msg32071657

So this model would have 16 x 700 = 11,200 for the cards alone.
add in 4 psu's
a frame/case
a stick of ram
the mobo with built in cpu
the bridge to the 16 slot pcie board
the 16 slot pcie board
the ethos os
the usb stick
many fans
labor
profit for the seller

and we are talking $$$

but if I use the evga hybrids they are more then 900 a card actually more then 1000
and the corsair are 999 plus shipping

so that is 14 x 1000 = 14000 14 hybrids or corsair
and 2 x 850 = 1700 2 zotac 1080ti minis

2 mobos = 350 if I use onda b250
2 psus = 900 if I use corsair ax1500i
2 frames = 230 if I use spotswood
2x the ram = 160 if I use 8gb crucial
2x cpus = 400 if I use i5 7400
2x usb sticks = 20 if i use samsung 32gb

cost is 17760 for 2 x 8 card rigs that I can not max since the corsair psu is a bit too weak so I do 10000 sols at 2600-2800 watts

pros quiet setup
cons I push the corsair ax1500i very hard
cons I can't get those waterblock cards

or I get the p102-100 16 card rig

it does 11,200 sols
it is loud
it uses 3500 watts
I think the build costs less then 17,760 (I guess this I don't know)

So did the 10-20 March boards start shipping?

I ordered one

Quote from: SEA1138 on March 12, 2018, 02:27:53 AM

I think your construct could be improved by adding ducts to the outlet so the heat isn't getting trapped inside the construct. Some of it will be recirculating. (I only watched the last video).

I'm aware that air needs to get in and out of the box. Anyone who puts their ASIC in a seal box is dumbass!

MDF isn't that good; it's just easy to work with and better than nothing.

I'll look into using a fireblanket inside the box though. Thanks.

yeah they are short proof and very fire resistant. they will melt at about 1100 f but they never burn.

Yeah that was a fast build it worked but I ended up putting 3 of these fans on the exhaust end

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835345040

this helped get all hot air out and did not add to the noise.

Quote from: rs1x on March 11, 2018, 09:17:29 PM

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If we did a group buy 80 x 700 = 56000 usd.

any interest in doing a group buy?

...

Back to gpus

nvidia is going to sell the p102-100 cheaper then the gaming gpus

thus pushing us miners to buy the mining gpus.

a 700 dollar p102-100 vs a 900 dollar 1080ti

means buy the mining gpu.

This is going to cause an upheaval in the markets.

But I am only guessing.

i would be in for a group buy. I would say I could most likely to commit to somewhere between 5-10 cards. I'm a small timer.
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I could do 5 maybe 10 depends on what buysolar wants to do.

Quote from: VeemoGuy on March 11, 2018, 06:46:07 PM

So why would we miners buy this? makes no sense

P102-100 50 mhs @250w per card if price is $700 +

vs.

2x rx570 27 mhs @ 125w per card $360 in us (newegg)

i dont see any performance gain in this performance or power wise

look at the pictures on one of the BABA vendors
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2018-New-Model-High-Hashrate-8pcs_60742041048.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.5ff73632rlbU4G

these are nvidia 1080ti's with a bios mod.

so you can put 200 watts in and get 700 sols for equihash.
or you can put in 200 watts and get 48mh

so you would need to pay under 350 for you rx 570's

these cards will unlock to 11gb not the 5fb they are locked to.

and you can buy these in bulk.

You can thank the miners that purchased a ton of 1080tis and the run them at 110% tdp not caring if the card dies as it has a 3 year warranty.

So Nvidia came up with these which are geared to miners.

Nvidia has restricted sales of normal 1080ti's to prevent miners from buying them and burning them up.

here is an evga deal that appeals to a gamer but not a miner

it is 1169 usd too much for a miner that does not need the mobo

but decent for a gamer that will mine a little while he sleeps.