Couldn't agree more. The BC community is full of arrogance. I think it was the same during the heydays of MINT (and we still have some, but much less than before - stupid people leave when the money leaves and the one who stay are of a much more agreeable company). I guess money makes people crazy, they don't even respect each other (how many times did I read "full of shit, idiot, dumbass" and other nice name -and no, it was not directed at me).

I am pretty confident though, that once the immature posters will be out, the Blackcoin community will benefit from a much higher signal-to-noise ratio. Because Blackcoin, like Mintcoin, Ghostcoin, Zeitcoin and other fast PoS coin, really is important for the crypto-community, because it leads to the end of carbon pollution (BTC pollutes as much as Cyprus http://pando.com/2013/12/16/bitcoin-has-a-dark-side-its-carbon-footprint/).

I learnt a lot during this month of March. I learnt how people lose their head when money is in. I learnt that a long-term project matters - and your Blackcoin card project is one interesting project. I learnt to stay emotionnally detached to a coin, because no coin, not even BTC is worth becoming inhuman as a lot of poster becames. They should be ashamed of their behaviour. Because shame is the best way to learn (the second best is playing, and it is much nicer one, by the way).

My advice: find yourself a goal. Mintcoin's goal is sustainable development - and I can tell you it is much more important now than in February when money was al that counted (even for me). Blackcoin has the opportunity to find its own goal - for a while, I believe it was possible to replace LTC and it should be something to do, since LTC is PoW and pollutes the planet.

Believe my experience from Mintcoin: the next days will be the harshest ones. Then your morale will rise again because you will find yourself a new goal. Look at the Kubler-Ross model on the five stages of grief. Blackcoin for now is somewhere between Denial and Bargaining. The next days will be Depression - that's the harsh part. Then I have a good news: the final stage of Acceptance will make you feel better. Some will move on to other things and the hardcore community will find itself a new goal.

Keep on going, Blackcoiners. Look for your goal. It awaits you.

I just wrote a tutorial. Here it is for your perusal. I hope it will help.

Linux tutorial
(but should be very close for other platforms)

Summary:
Two terminals, once for the daemon and one for the wallet and mining
• terminal 1: • terminal 2: (first time)
(next times)

Get the precompiled binaries
Windows
Mac
Linux
you can also compile from source (I was not able to do so on Manjaro Linux, but the Ubuntu precompiled work flawlessly)

Open two terminals
For each terminal be sure to go to the folder where you have you binaries (on a graphical interface, the fastest way it to drag-and-drop a file from the file manager then remove the name of the file to have only the folder)

On terminal 1, type this command
Let it sync, it will be MUCH faster than bytecoin, since it is one day old (bytecoin is two years old)
That's all. Don't close (once the daemon is active, you can use show_hr to get your hashrate or  set_log 1/2/3 to change the verbosity of the logs). If you close the daemon whilst you are mining, mining will stop (obviously) and if you open the daemon again the mining won't resume (you must use the start_mining command on the wallet for that)

On terminal 2, type this command:
(I am not sure .bin is necessary)
You will be prompted for a password. Be careful, you won't have to type a confirmation so beware of typos!
Close the wallet with the "exit" command.

Now type this command:
and enter your password. If you forgot your password or mistyped it at creation time, delete every file starting with name_of_my_wallet.bin and start over. Every bitmonero would be lost forever, that's why it is important that you do it just after the creation, before any mining.

Mining
And now the good stuff: mining!
Since the wallet is also the miner, enter this:
where x is your number of threads (use nproc on linux to know it - should work on Mac too; on Windows, either get a utility for this or use this formula: number of CPU (usually 1) time number of cores time 2 (if no support for Hyperthread, remove the *2)
Or course, you don't have to use all your threads (especially if you are using your computer for something else)
Unfortunately, on my machine/OS, I cannot mine on more than one thread at a time. I don't know if it is my machine or my OS.(deleted the blockchain and resynchronized, works now)

By the way: if you want to know your hashrate, type show_hr in bitmonerod. And if you want to change the amount of  information in the daemon, use  set_log 1 (least info) to  set_log 3 (max info)


How can you know that you are actually mining? Check you CPU usage :-) If it less than 80% chances are you are not mining.

I hope this tutorial will prove useful

Edit: I've been suggested to add my address, so here it is:
(by the way, this coin is welcome breath of fresh air after the agressiveness and, dare I say, stupidity of the Blackcoin thread)

Thanks to tacotime for the Ubuntu binaries (I could not compile on Arch) and Vilchaco for the show_hr trick.

What? 0.9 hr! I can't believe it is so low! I have an i5-3337U (http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2441). I can't other CPU are 15 times more powerful. Is there something wrong here?

How can I know my hashrate?

I cannot compile for Arch/Manjaro Bytecoin precompiled works perfectly and I changed nothing on my computer since yesterday

Edit: thanks to stickh3ad who sent me the precompiled ubuntu version over IRC - they work with Manjaro.

Thanks. Now I have to consider the cost of electricty.

Thank for correcting me. And about the energy footprint, is X11 less energy-hungry than Groestl?

I just got 2082 BCN (but I don't know if it is mining or receiving)? I got this information by enteriing "refresh" on the wallet.
How much is 2082 CN in USD or EUR?

Because BTC distribution is even worse.

Would you say that Mintcoin and even more radical Blackcoin were instamined?

Then go to Groestl, which draws even less power than X11, is CPU+GPU too and better yet reduces the advantage of GPU over CPU.

I personally am explicity against a CPU+GPU algo. Because this means CPU have no reason to mine anymore (except for increasing a little the mining power of a GPU miner). GPU mining means "more money for the richs, less money for the rest of us". Not exactly in the direction of fairness.

Plus, CryptoNote goes beyond a lot of the shortcoming of the bitcoin protocol. CryptoNote uses CryptoNight algo only. Maybe it could be possible to implement X11 on CryptoNote as a replacement for CryptNight, but as stated above, I am against this.

That being said, your point regarding botnets is interesting. I suppose the reason why there is not much botnets on GPU is that server do not come with a real GPU to start with.

Did you check for the Cryptonote or Cryptonight? The first is the technology, the second is the algo.

The only thing that bothers me with cryptonote is that it is still a PoW coin, thus an energy-hungry coin. Although, pure PoS like NXT, MINT, BC... but also FAC (100% premine although it is not PoS) seem to allow faster transactions - at least this is the case for the first three.

Could you give a comparison between next and next horizon? You know that you are no the first one talking about forking next, right? As far as I understood, you are the first one to actually have done it, though.

Thanks! We will publish a carousel with pictures.

I misread, sorry.

Too bad it had already been mostly mined...

Your bytocoin folder has a "bytecoin address.txt" file once you generated the wallet. This txt file contains your bytecoin address.

If you read the whitepaper or [the cryptonote website, you will find that url=https://cryptonote.org/inside.php#equal-proof-of-work]the cryptonote website[/url], you will find that it is actually meant to be mainly mineable by CPU
Now, Heavycoin tried the same thing and failed, but maybe this one will work better.

Regarding the mining of Bytecoin: I read there was supposed to be 180 billions coins and that only around 80 millions have already been mined. This would mean that only 0.05% had already been mined, quite the opposite of an unfair launch. Or am I wrong on the numbers?

Done

I am excited by this coin. ASIC-hostile, GPU-hostile, Pool-hostile. Meant for fair distribution from the start. Fairness of distribution is so important. I'd like to know how it would compare to NXT feature-wise.

Earth Day is soon (22nd). It is a great opportunity to bring some attention toward mintcoin. And have fun at the same time and build up the community.

What I propose:
every one of us go looking for a natural spot around your place of living. Print out a Mintcoin poster that we still have to create together. Take a camera, place the poster in a strategic location so that it will be on the shot without obscuring the natural spot. Make some shot (Photoshop is allowed for small modification - do not make the spot looks like what it is not).

Once back home, choose the best one and send it to me with a 3-liner about this location. Why you choose it (particularly beautiful, particularly destroyed by mankind, great memories...) We will post them in a carousel fashion on a website that will go public this very day.

Example text: "When I was young, my mother liked to bring me here and just stay silent, watching the waterfall. We have only one mother. We have only one Earth." Gl0sser, mintcoin user
As you can see, no mention on mintcoin on the text itself, only the signature will be the same. I believe it is better that way, but your mileage may vary.

We'll try to publish it on non-crypto related websites. Even if it doesn't increase the price of mintcoin, it will strenghten us as a community and it is our duty as a sustainable development coin to act this way.

Another possibility would be to not included a mintcoin poste in the picture but to have a mintcoin logo in the surrounding text. I am thinking of regular motivator-like poster with a logo on the right (or the left). I'll try to provide you a sample.

Who's in?

Tu peux miner sur du CPU une monnaie CPU-only et sur tes cartes graphiques une monnaie plus classique (sauf peut-être sur Groestl où tu peux miner les deux sans que le CPU ne serve à rien).
L'intérêt du CPU mining est surtout pour permettre à davantage de gens de miner (répartition plus juste) - moi, je n'ai pas de carte graphique puissante, par exemple, donc je suis exclu du minage de quasiment tout.

What to do if you get a Connect failed to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080? I am on Manjaro Linux and I did not block any port on my router.