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2121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is dogecoin worth trading? on: February 20, 2017, 12:48:41 PM
i want to buy a little of dogecoins but is it even worth it? i cant even find where to buy/sell it really .

you can buy dogecoin in anything altcoin exchanger, because majority altcoin exchanger support and accepted dogecoin trading
but dogoecoin price ussualy is stable price, so you can verydifcult can get profit

..the word is Altcoin.. "Exchange" and "doge" + "coin" and "usually" and "very" + "difficult"

I have no idea what an Altcoin exchanger is.
But i'd love to know where all the mush mouth foreigners with broken English are getting this from..
My guess is China.  Roll Eyes

And get smarter guys you fall for bait topics hard way too easily.  Cheesy
2122  Other / Off-topic / Re: How Do You Feel About Bounty Whoring? on: February 20, 2017, 07:00:10 AM
I assumed this would mean a person who completes coin bounties too much.
Such as a guy who quickly runs to every coin to snatch up the offer to make an Icon for the new coin before anyone else.

hmm who knew.. never heard of it  Shocked
2123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 20, 2017, 06:50:52 AM
I meant the topic not Monero itself Dino  Cheesy
Your doing it again.. no matter how hard i try and get you guys to the water you won't drink.
No i am not ACTUALLY calling you a horse either Wink

I guess i should give up *for now  Cool

To follow along with you two though..
When i was around 12 or 13 i used to go to the local comic book store and rummage in the 25 cent bin.
But i would grab a few dollars worth of the cheap ones read them once then put them in plastic clip covers and chuck them in a box for safe keeping.

What did i buy ?
Issue 1, 2 and 3 plus the training manual editions of TMNT first press.
Yup i bought Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles issue #1 first press for 25 cents.

Later when i moved i ended up having all my comics stolen Sad

Yup i have been pretty lucky at times LOL
I only ever went and bought comics at the comic store few times ever.
So the odds that i was literally among a handful of people on planet earth that knew about TMNT before everyone else was pretty random.

I suffer from laziness though.. i kept wanting to look into Bitcoin in the early days after hearing about but kept putting off.. by the time i got here it was hitting i think around $30.
I have a Firefox bookmark still from when i was stunned it went to $50.
True stories though !

So yeah i get what you mean by collectibles.
My buddy had his Dad who was locked up in jail tell my friend he can his his hockey cards.
Back around 1990/1991 i think me and a friend were just getting into collecting buying packs at the store.
So.. when my buddy went and pulled the shoe box from the closet we sat in the living room sifting through them.
I thought i was gonna fucking puke i was so sick and wanted to rob him so bad but i didn't.
I stacked up about 7 Ray Bourque rookies cards and maybe 8 Wayne Gretzky rookie cards.. so far.
And others from the same year 1979..
I was soooo tempted to steal some of them from him and regretted i never did LOL
I knew looking at his pile of the floor i was looking at anywhere from 10 to $20,000.00 in cards
HE DIDN'T !
Sooo JEALOUS !

Within a year or so i was running my own little sports card buying / selling / trading business i started.
Which all started from that pack of hockey cards.
I ended up doing little trade shows and flee markets from one end of Canada to the other.
Eventually i took the massive amount of cards i had by then which was a lot and sold them all to a dealer for a like a couple cents s piece whole sale. (after i cherry picked out the good ones LOL)
I couldn't stay away though and ended up rebuilidng it all back up and doing more trade shows then sodl it all off again.

Did the same here Wink

I took 0 cents and c0 cents and rubbed it together and got up to around 12 grand via lots of trading / arb'ing.
And i seen the crypto scene changing in a bad way and i had an itch to spend some of the money.
So i decided to cash all of it out and spend it all and i did too !
I gave away a grand worth and spent the rest in maybe 6 or 7 months roughly.
KNOWING full well that i could have kept trying to build a larger profit.
I CHOSE not to on purpose.. it as getting way too scammy for my taste.
I made my point though.
I cam to crypto with 0.
And i walked away with 12 grand.

I could have robbed guys in crypto for their Wayne Gretzky cards and i never did !
Integrity is worth something.
You never know when the gods will hand you a TMNT comic for 25 cents LOL
Karma's a bitch guys  Cheesy
2124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Community Coin - You decide, I create, we profit. (ccex and yobit at launch) on: February 20, 2017, 06:19:33 AM
Did some digging and found all kinds of things..

So this is a pump coin only? Everyone is guaranteed profit?
This coin is the most dangerous coin you will ever experience. If you are courageous and an adventurous, you will love the concept Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=772295

Understand ?

I have a hunch our chubby friend here Mr. Vince Wertman likes NET and stakeminers  Cheesy
He's a pro Pump service guy i guess and has been in crypto since 2010 he claims.
I wonder if he's the same one that was on Cryptsy for years ?
Hmm so many questions after searching around.
Especially what happened to MANI which is an awful lot like this topic here  Grin
2125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is dogecoin worth trading? on: February 20, 2017, 05:20:00 AM
He knows he's playing games.
Did a quick look and i see he has been posting his Skype address (dogo69423xx2) online since 2013.
He's taking his new account for a walk.. but to where ?
2126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 19, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
PS:
@Dino
..i traded toys with other kids when i was younger.
Does that make them a currency ? Wink

If your goal was to obtain them to trade them for other toys, and not because you wanted to play with them, yes, of course.  That's exactly what a currency is: the intermediate good you only acquire (against goods and services you provide) with the aim of trading them later against goods and services you want to obtain from others, and with the belief that they will accept that intermediate good for exactly the same reasons.

You don't need to be many for that.  You only need to have a (small or big) circle of mutual believers.  The minimum is 2.

I accept a promise from you to do stuff for you if I think that you will accept that promise later against stuff you will do for me.  That promise is then our currency.


You really don't want to talk about Monero do you ? LOL
You left out the consensus part in the quote too.
And the context.. this forum and more specifically Monero and this very topic.

We're sure spinnin' our wheels here accomplishing nothing (like Monero)

Monero the Bitcointalk Anon Coin.
Where adoption is a low priority matter.. what matters is hangin' out here chanting "Success"
If you all say it then it will magically become true huh guys ?
But but Monero is better !
Why ? Because it's not as scammy as half the other coins here ?
A low bar guys LOL

I realized long ago around Crypto there are honest people and bullshitters.
Two groups.
The type that would FUD their own coin and the rest of you.
Get it ?
It's about making sure that people see you with your best foot forward at all times and sweeping away any negativity.

If i bring up a criticism about Monero or any coin what i will get is bullshit.
The shill's will go into attack mode and slander me and maybe even send me MORE death threats.
..or countless lawsuit threats or cry Troll / FUD then accuse me of Lying.. neg me and then claim i am a Troll to be ignored.
and on and on and on and on..

Which is pointless because half the world coming here can see what i see.
I don't have magic crypto glasses that makes me see all the secrets.
I see what is in plain fucking sight here people.
Keep it up ..it's working well.
All of Earth is clamoring to buy Monero Dark Market Anon coins at Polo guys.

All i am seeing is manipulated markets and bullshit peddlers.
How can ETH have a billion dollar cap and rose to $20 a coin ?
Same with Monero and many others.. whale manipulation.
The fact is we don't get enough new users to keep increasing coin prices yet they go up anyway.
Coin prices shoot up like crazy while new user levels are on the decline.

All these coins are artificially inflated and there for a facade.
The best Monero could be perceived as Rising and rising again is if there were lots of users running to buy them.
Or whales like Risto and / or friends etc pumping them up at their buddies exchange.

If it is mostly whale manipulation then we can't claim the users deem it a success can we ?
And since all coins get dumped on 24/7 there has to be either A) a never ending increasing amount of new users.
Or b) whales putting up walls making sure the price don't tank.

Monero is Risto's house of cards.
It was his money that fueled it and kept it afloat all this time.

Yet the Monero shill's claim he has no part of Monero at all.
and pull their foot back when it's brought up.

All i can say is the massive effort to sweep so much under the rug is only going to backfire on Monero shill's hard sooner or later.
I guarantee there is TONS of info yet to come out still.

I want no part of any aspect of Monero.
The people that surround it are awful and the coin itself is a heap of gimmicky bullshit.
I have seen warning signs for years like i did with Cryptsy or GOX etc.
I trust my instincts not childish whiny baby bag-holder brat shill's crying FUD here.

You all do what you want Wink
2127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: February 19, 2017, 10:51:01 AM

Haha, that's funny spoetnik. 

I'll tell you, that's one of the best scenaries I've ever seen.  Maybe I'll visit you one day.  Smiley

Is that a threat ?  Shocked
You can get a discount with others here.. iGotSpots has the flight planes booked already i'm sure.
But seriously i WOULD go have a beer with ya if you were in town.  Smiley

I live just off the picture on the left and i know a well known guy in the Altcoin scene who told me he works at the big building in the center of the picture i posted too.
He had given me his name and a couple pictures and told me where he works etc on IRC before.
I won't bother saying who though simply to give the guy his privacy.
I have never met anyone in crypto in person eh..

I am from Kelowna since about 16yrs old and i grew up before that close to Vancouver BC.
But i was born in Penticton.. which is really close to Kelowna.
And my Dad's side of the family started a famous winery around 1960 i think in the Niagra Falls area.
So i have been lucky to have been around nice places.
I lived in Ontario up north Muskoka area too where many celebs visit and down south close to Toronto, Ontario too.

People say to me where would you like to live (what country ?) Canada !  Grin

Point is i am lucky because we have a very low earthquake problem where i am.
Compared to crossing the border down south etc.
I lived on Vancouver Island in a condo on the shore of the ocean but was paranoid.
We got lots of earthquakes and i thought of Tsunami's a bunch of times.
I moved away from the risk zone on purpose.

That ring of fire is one hell of a nasty bitch !
Scientist never knew why the coast was flattened out all the way up to Alaska for ages.
Until a more recent study figured out that the entire coast was slammed with tsunami so large it wiped out the coast all the way up the continent. (1700 Cascadia earthquake i think)
It was so big that no one that that would be it.. but finding seas shells etc in land etc proved it.
There will be more too.

Learn to swim !  Wink
2128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think "iamnotback" really has the" Bitcoin killer"? on: February 19, 2017, 10:28:09 AM
I want to reiterate again how critically important our work on decentralization technology is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.msg17900578#msg17900578

Eventually I will publish a well defined technological plan...

I am not against decentralization ..i am against people faking it.
I am not for laws but on the other hand society would collapse if it wasn't there.

You can't have some laws that benefit you and cast away the rest.
The financial regulations are there for a reason.
They funded the Multi-Trillion dollar US military force and paved roads.

Take away the laws and there will be garbage piled 100 feet high in the streets.
AKA: Marshall law.

The economy would have ALREADY collapsed had the US govt not put out bail-out packages etc years ago.
Which was CAUSED by a lack of regulations which was admitted by Greenspan.

That evil NWO you are talking about is the very reason you have a roof over your head and you are not flying the North Korean flag guys.



EDIT:

@Shelby
Here is a mind fuck for you Wink
What is NWO ?
Why did Trump get elected ?
Because he was not one of "them" the old evil politicians ?
So he's trying to implement a NEW WORLD ORDER ?
And you ..wouldn't know it ? Wink
uhhh ohhh  Cheesy
2129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 19, 2017, 10:09:41 AM
@Dino
My Monero commentary here for ages was not all directed at YOU !
It was to the shill's and the potential buyers eating up the Monero Hoody Merch Tag-line.

We have conflicting views but a lot in common here.

I was not saying YOU were calling Monero a success but the scene full of shill's.
Scroll back and read the crap FEBO posted.
No offense Febo i think your a decent guy but i don't support your comments on Monero here.
So don't take anything i say towards you personally.

Me and Dino can split hairs here all day long but that is not the point i am driving at.
It's the message these guys are sending to the world.. a vague hazy one at best.

They won't tell you what the goal is or how they define success.
But they will say Monero *IS* a success.
Then they go on to cite the price again etc.. which is bullshit being spewed by shill's.

You all would not even be talking about law here if it was not for me hammering away on it Dino.
You realize that ?
Look around see anyone else mentioning it over & over for 2 or 3 years running ?
They don't care !

All i see is bag-holders playing dumb.
An FBI agent says he will have a look at Monero.
Then the Monero baggies brag about 3% of DM usage etc.
Uhmm ?

It's all upside and no downside with you all in crypto huh ?

I think it's fair to help the new guys showing up here that there are risks and barriers and different definitions of "Success"
The Monero baggies are a lost cause.. they are like a Pyramid Scheme / MLM victim trapped forced to sucker in more victims with bullshit.
So i am not trying to convince them of anything LOL

I am making sure the other foot they keep pulling back is in plain view.
"They" have done nothing but put their best foot forward and then pretend the other one does not even exist.

Seriously they are scammy fucking frauds bullshitting galore.
All they have done is scream LIES and call me a Troll while i try and bring up entirely fair issues.
It's childish.. and very dishonest.
Par for the course here at "TheTalk

If they can figure out how to make it work then good for them.. prove me wrong etc.
I just don't see how it will.


Monero is some big success story in crypto ? How the fuck do you guys figure ?
Want to gauge that success metric against reality ?
Nope you all here want to scream Troll then lie and bullshit to get guys to head over to Polo to buy coins with their Picture ID while Polo hands off your info to the Fed's.
And yeah i know..
You don't HAVE TO ..but REALITY says they will !
And it is reality i am interested in not bullshit crap from morons here.
The reality is Polo added an XMR market soon after the coin existed for some weird inexplicable reason.
It *IS* in fact backed and funded by a sketchy admitted mental case lunatic millionaire whale.
Risto has admitted to paying the devs and donating and buying vast amounts of XMR.
I would not be surprised to see he had over a million in XMR.

They DID say they were leaving roughly 2 years ago but instead stayed continuing to advertise here while saying they never ever have.. even though they took donated money to make a forum game here that was deemed by King Risto as a "Powerful Adoption Asset"

Dino you are leap frogging over damn near 3 years of retarded bullshit and shenanigans these assholes have pulled here.
AND !
The fact their coin is centrally controlled and used mostly on govt controlled exchanges.

You are all skipping over any and all negative points and PRETENDING they don't exist.
Which is dishonest and makes you all look like a predator preying on the noobs that show up here.

And i am not havin' it !

You can line up to run your mouth and neg me all you want.
You can spam and cry FUD / Troll and chant "LIES" or cause diversions.. go hard !
But the truth is right there under all your noses.

I posted here because of the topic title people.
Is Monero now or will be in the future a success ?
I did not post here to say what i think a crypto coin SHOULD be.. i posted to highlight the actual real reality of the situation.

PS:
@Dino
..i traded toys with other kids when i was younger.
Does that make them a currency ? Wink
What we all collectively deem a currency to be is what it is.
What we all collectively think success is.. is what it is.
Get it ?
2130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: February 19, 2017, 09:43:47 AM

Wonder if they are still blasting now ...

Maybe it was all just coincidences with nobody realizing the potential impact on he dam but to blast at this point would be insane or an outright conspiracy.  So I say no way they're gonna do any blasting at that quarry.

I seen a govt funded survey in Canadian news last year that proved beyond any doubt the blasting they are doing in Alberta for the Oil Sands is indeed causing earth quakes.. and lots of them and far more than they realized too.
So ya never know Wink

You can see via Gamow's picture earlier that i am above those storm fronts in Beautiful British Columbia Canada..



That would be my lake Wink
The lake is 135 km long, between 4 and 5 km wide, and has a surface area of 348 kmē.
Surrounded by Fruit orchards, Vineyards and Mountains for skiing.. hit the slopes then tan on the beach then hit the clubs for our legendary night life.. you might even run into a celebrity.. ME Wink

@Vlad
You seem like good people so tell ya what i'm gonna do..
I'm gonna send down my buddy Phil to help you guys down south get your shit fixed up.
No worries eh, he's packin' (a case of Bud Light)



He should be down there soon.. keep watch by the coast eh
2131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Becoming rich owning all altcoins in 5 years? on: February 19, 2017, 09:21:00 AM
Ethereum was manipulated and that took power & money.
It is a historic coin in scammyness.
It's launch was rigged and exploited.

It is the ultimate scam coin here in crypto history.
And you all played along for the profits.

AND you will AGAIN as long as it gives you ROI'z !
What does that take ?
A dev who can rig the coin to profit from and a team to spam and hype and then pump it.. nothing more.

As always, a pile of bullshit from spoetnik.

It wasn't from me..

When i posted my topic on ETH here being a scam in 2014 because of a sketchy ICO launch it was OTHERS on the forum that exposed they 0day buy up shenanigans.
Who is it you think was buying blocks of 100 BTC buy orders of the pointless sell of an ICO coin on launch in 2014 when no one had heard of it or had any interest (until 2 years later) ?
It was the fucking dev's etc of course.. duh
The same people who pumped it 2 years later and the same dev who admitted he dumped for a million dollars and had 4 million worth.
How did Butters get millions ?
See my page 1 topic where other people posted info on it in 2014 Wink

Myself and others pulled the mask off the Ethereum scammers faces.
You all choose not to see the ugly result..




2132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 19, 2017, 09:03:21 AM
aSSBREAKER fighting Dash in ANN thread:



 Tongue

His redemption on Tosh.0 was funny  Cheesy

I have had two issues with Monero though people.
One is obviously i don't like their anon concept or how cocky they are about it.
And even worse is their behavior..

Their behavior has amounted to incessant centralized puppet control.
See the Jaxx Wallet incident for an example.
Meaning they can and will pull the rug out from you anytime.. because of superior the attitude.

And i am not even getting into their deceitful commentary and games they play on the forum here.
Which is deceitful LOL
I can't trust people who act dishonestly.
And it's not an isolated incident either.
What i see is the usual suspects who have a chip on their shoulder who feel entitled to lie and bullshit when ever they feel like it to further their agenda.

I will NOT invest in that.

Let me pose this scenario.. after reading what i wrote above..
What would happen if they realized the coin was compromised badly or there was an exploit that couldn't be fixed was found.
Would they tell everyone ?
Well based on them being deceitful so far.. i have no choice but to assume no.

Being trust worthy is a tantamount aspect to this stuff.
And Monero idiots have chosen to simply deny deny deny for years.
2133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 19, 2017, 08:44:01 AM
Yeah ?
And how does that apply to Monero (The Topic)
Have i not been over this already ?
More diversions ?

Monero is one of the more successful crypto coins implementing anonymity as a core feature.  If you are going to be outside of the law, you better have some anon tech. And if you are going to be "inside the law" and law abiding, you don't need crypto: fiat is better.  What is outright dangerous, is to be outside the law with a transparent crypto.  What is outright meaningless, is to be a law-abiding crypto.  So the only MEANINGFUL crypto is anon crypto.  Maybe "crypto outside the law" is a failure, but then ALL OF CRYPTO is a failure, because crypto has no meaning "inside the law".  It is a ridiculous concept, that is just as ridiculous as "fire arms that cannot shoot".  Maybe owning fire arms is a failure, and then fire arms as a whole are a failure.  But in any case, owning non-shooting fire arms is ridiculous.  IF you consider fire arms, they should be able to shoot.  IF you consider crypto, it should be anonymous.

That's the relationship with the subject.


See? You and all the other shill's just did it again.

You say it's successful because you say it's successful.

You know for people who THINK you are awfully smart you sure post a LOT of dumb shit here all year round.
Why not say i HOPE it will be successful or i THINK it will be successful one day ?
Because News Flash.. it's not.

And if you guys dare say the price to me one more time i am going to lose my shit  Angry
Dino you just finished telling us all about the Greater Fools game.. exactly !
Hence price means fuck all and you KNOW IT !

And once again.. this is what pisses me off.
There is no Rise and i highly doubt there will another rise (as per topic title)
All of you have sweet fuck all here.
Even the people who support ANON coins know there will be more trouble ahead and the odds are sketchy at best.

Dino you keep trouncing around this concept that a crypto coin SHOULD be anon right ?
Well..
Think of it this way.. the entire system is contingent on ANON being a success.

security ? and adoption ?

I have addressed the security lots ..i have an old topic here called [FACT] Anon coins will never work !
And take a wild guess what i said on it ?

Custom API, so I don't think this affects anyone else. We've disabled betting in the meantime whilst we sort this out, but I really think the lesson to other operators is not to be overconfident in your code or in your setup. Everything can and will be compromised, so assume it's going to happen and put safeguards in place to handle that eventual scenario.

Hmm who's that ? And why did that guys team of shill's argue with me on my topic then ?
Oh and across the forum for two years running ?
Seems they do in fact agree with me contrary to their incessant arguing and calling me a troll etc.

But i digress..
We're talking about success ?
Ok then let's carry on Wink


Adoption has to be the key right ? Or it's not a currency.
I HAVE already touched on my next point previously on this topic but let me see if i can REALLY hammer it home for you all.

ANON tech is mandatory ?
Ok let me play along then.. let's say it is..
Well then, is it adopted and USED yet ?
NO !
The Monero shill's here down played their DM coin involvement after it was pointed out it was looking bad.
They went on to claim it was *ONLY* used at 3% of the Dark Markets.
SO ? Get it ?
You can not claim it's a success for that reason then either because it's not used on DM's Cheesy

So what is left ?

0

I also previously alluded to the fact that it seems to me that the Monero shill's are putting all their eggs in one basket claiming ANON tech is the big meal ticket.
If that is the case then i said you face a barrier.. the law !
Then i mentioned public perception and the current existing financial structure as a barrier let alone law makers and enforcers themselves.

The existing Financial machine around the world is not going to link up with and support Monero.
It's just not happening and why is because of LAW.. never mind DM reputation etc.
And never mind implementing sketchy forum code made by kids onto world wide financial systems that need to be battle hardened tested and secure ..see my above fluffypony comment Wink

Further more they would have to essentially be the lapdog for Risto and his giant cheap bags he got.
They would have to buy his bags at some point to use the coin etc.
And then would have to follow what ever the Monero idiots say and do or TAKE IT OVER.

You think a big bank wants to have a major partnership with Risto's estimated half million doll bags he's holding ?
Think of it this way why did the Jaxx wallet dev quit Monero support ?
Because the Monero dev's randomly decided to break the system on him forcing him to rewrite all his code.
And he didn't want to do that.
In other words the coin Monero is in fact centrally controlled by Risto and his minions here.
And a bank partnership would be linked to that as the bank leaders around the globe playing second fiddle to King Risto and his paid employee fluffypony & friends and what ever whims he has at the moment (which has proven to be problematic see the Monero MEW topic)

You REALLY want to get into this guys ?
You REALLY want to parade around chanting Monero success ?
Fine.. then eat up the FUD hard.  Grin
You deserve it because you are playing dumb (or are) and selling a scheme presented in a decetful way here.

Security is presented as bullet proof contrary to fluffypony''s earlier comment.
Even though the simple fact is if it was exploited the entire system would fall apart at once.
Once one transaction is exposed every transaction ever made would be..
Every DM user all at once would be vulnerable in 1 hack incident.
But..
They present this coin as bullet proof and make sure to shill on hard 24/7 crying FUD to any criticism.
A post like this by toknormal for example will of course get trolled by them rather than addressing the concerns or admitting problems etc..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg17896089#msg17896089

..almost done  Wink

Monero shills are trying to paint a deceitful picture.
They are doing so because it's in their financial interest.
Which is why King Risto bragged on Poloniex about making another forum game that needed donated user funds which was never accounted for and how he laughed at me because he claimed he made thousands on the previous one.
It's why they have a gambling site.. to turn a business profit.
It's why the shill's deem Monero a success not stop harping that Monero's price is good.
Their true motivations are not altruistic and honest ..they are greedy and deceitful.
Honest people behave honestly.. it's really that simple.

Like analogies ?
A firearm is used as such as the inventor intended.. Monero is not.

One last point..
In order for a currency to be validated by the worlds major 1st world govt's it has to be bail-out-able.
Yeah i just made up that word Wink
Would the govt of the USA bail out a Monero system in a recession like that have and will again in the future with FIAT ?
No fucking chance.. so it would mean they won't let it slide into the existing financial structure.
Even if they WANTED to support Monero they can not.. because it was made by design to evade AML law.
Which would mean they have to allow terrorism financing and money laundering etc just to bend the rules for Monero.. not happening.
2134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Becoming rich owning all altcoins in 5 years? on: February 19, 2017, 07:56:05 AM
Would one be super rich if one now bought 1000 of each altcoin under a dollar at the time of this writing 5 years from now?
Look at ethereum. they were starting at 0.5 cents and the two years has passed and the ethereum price is currently stable at 13 dollars and which mean it can bring you a lot of the money. But all of the coin track depend on the project development.

Ethereum was manipulated and that took power & money.
It is a historic coin in scammyness.
It's launch was rigged and exploited.

It is the ultimate scam coin here in crypto history.
And you all played along for the profits.

AND you will AGAIN as long as it gives you ROI'z !
What does that take ?
A dev who can rig the coin to profit from and a team to spam and hype and then pump it.. nothing more.
2135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Becoming rich owning all altcoins in 5 years? on: February 19, 2017, 03:36:11 AM
Thanks Wedice, but can you explain why?

Because most get delisted eventually and THEN no one wants to buy them for any price.

Since the only use these have is trading for profits on exchanges then it means when they get delisted they are pretty much dead.. unless they get back onto an exchange (VERY RARE)

Your money would be better spent playing the lottery or buying scratch & wins at the gas station.
Or..
Simply putting it into a basic savings account at any bank and leaving it there for 5 years.
The value in that is you WILL get a profit guaranteed.

If you want to play investor i urge you all to get on Google and research what a sound and intelligent investment actually is.
Problem is you guys won't have a forum to come here and create lots of accounts with to troll and and cry FUD all the time if you wait for a bank investment to to pay out in 5 years.

No fun unless you can come here and be a retard shill chanting innovationunz..
Gotta fire a hot load of bag hodler spam all our faces 24/7 fer teh ROI'z & teh LUL'z  Cheesy
2136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Swiscoin insane peak, what happened? on: February 19, 2017, 01:10:45 AM
All i know about it is that it's an MLM scam coin.
One of a new breed of shitcoin these days.

They are very good at avoiding this forum and running across the web piggy-backing on Bitcoin popularity.
Social media and Youtube etc will get flooded and there won't even be an ANN topic here for it.

LEO Coin was under the radar for 2 years before a spammer here caught our attention because he wouldn't stop spamming the Altcoin section about it.. soon after that the scam fell apart with arrests and bank account seizures etc.

And best i can tell LEO and Swiss seem to be the same.. possibly by the same scammers or maybe even a competing MLM scammer group.
2137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 19, 2017, 01:05:45 AM
@bigrcanada1

Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread

That is the MEW topic i mentioned earlier.
You will see the wpalczynski guy (a Monero supporter / IRC user) asking and then he gets called a FUD'er.
Risto cries FUD to his own supporter who asks where THEIR donated money was spent.
As though he is above accountability.
And he is !

The fact his employee on the forum game Latapie was the MEW treasurer is simply appalling.
AND.. how David vanished ....with the Money for months.
As Dave admitted on that link and how Dave denied it during the Monero French Police Fraud topic i posted around the same time frame.
If you look around you can actually catching them saying the opposite.. caught lying.
Yeah a treasurer vanished then comes back and says he was robbed a victim so you can trust him LOL
oh and he's "sorry"

I'd love to be able to take a fortune in donated money and vanish with it for months.. must be nice.

Weird is when Dave came back he had started running around the web apologizing profusely for doing something to the Monero community but would never say what.
If it his absence ? Then why did he deny even being gone on one topic and admit it on another ?

Then reading the Monero shill's weird apology i had questions so i created the topic to summarize his multiple quotes and ask .. WHAT HAPPENED ?
I was attacked like you all never seen before.. they flooded me we with Negative Trust ratings ruining my rep here claiming i lied on that topic when all i did was copy & paste the quotes from Dave others already posted here (who did not get negged)
They never did explain anything but what Latapie was caught saying confirmed ANOTHER lie.
The biggest being that they the Monero shill's usual-suspects had never advertised on Bitcointalk (when they have blatantly)
Dave said he started a Monero Marketing Company which contradicts probably a 100 comments from them all previously.
..caught lying AGAIN !
And who did i just say he worked for ? rpietila / risto the castle bentley king of Monero.

All i can say is look yourselves people.
They really are deceitful little fraud's.
and there is far more to uncover on those scumbags if you wanted to dig.

[NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated]
Check out that link to see David Latapie's quoted comments like i was referring to above.


@toknormal
That was a good post earlier, well done !
2138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 19, 2017, 12:44:44 AM
Yeah ?
And how does that apply to Monero (The Topic)
Have i not been over this already ?
More diversions ?

You guys are bending over backwards creating a diversion here and also by creating more topics on Dash to bump and i know the public will see straight though this shallow silly little game.

When Monero idiots are confronted with tough questions that is what they do here.. as always.
2139  Other / Off-topic / HOORAY FREE MARKET NO LAWS BRUH ! on: February 18, 2017, 04:05:30 PM
I'd say sickness is turning a blind eye to blatant crime.
There has probably been a billion dollars combined scammed from people in crypto.
And it's this topic that has you all upset crying "Sick" ?
No concern for the ALIVE people who lost $1,000,000,000.00 in "investment" money ?

Nope.

Want no laws ? then no laws it is then guys.. no complaining ok ?
2140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Should the Altcoin world work with govt authorities or fight them ? on: February 18, 2017, 03:51:04 PM
I don't think some of you get the intention of law.
We can see crystal clear right now it is there for YOU.
All of you trying to make money doing this.
The chief reason for the laws to exist is outlined in the AML law.

I will post this yet AGAIN because you all STILL don't get it..

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Firms must comply with the Bank Secrecy Act and its implementing regulations ("Anti-Money Laundering rules"). The purpose of the AML rules is to help detect and report suspicious activity including the predicate offenses to money laundering and terrorist financing, such as securities fraud and market manipulation.

Now what in the fuck does that say ? do i have to spend half an hour putting it in bold with italics and giant font or what ?
Can you chucklefuck's read ?

You people are fucking exhausting.  Roll Eyes

Do i have to take what that quote says then spell it out for idiots ?

What may not be obvious is that i am not saying we need laws to stop scam coins from being made.
I am saying it would be good to at least at the bare minimum have some laws out there that hammer the worst of them AFTER they are made.

Common sense tells us it's not practical to have a legal filter of sorts for coin creation etc.
Simply because of the logistics and chance of exploitation and the ever increasing tech world advancements.
Who would and COULD Police new coins ?
I don't think anyone in the govt is going to try doing that because it's simply too much of a messy hassle.
..yet some of you are commenting here like that is what is proposed.

You guys like being ripped off ?
Fine then shut your fucking mouth when it happens.
I don't want hear any calls for this forum or the lawyers or FBI / Police etc to hunt down people or services that burn you cocky little naive ass's.

Want a "no laws" Free Market ?
Then shut the fuck up when your stupid Investard ass's get GOX'd or Cryptsy'd.

Chances are both of those two would have been caught far sooner before they even had a chance to run for it had there been proper laws in place with a legal framework that demand transparency and accountability.

Want to argue about that ?
You can't..
Because both had claimed hackers stole their coins and STILL stayed open operating for a year or two AFTER they claimed they were robbed. (BigVern said he did not know who to report the hack etc to)
So..
if there was at least basic oversight the Fed's etc could have spotted this glaring problem and the users could have gotten a fair chance at getting their money back etc.

Paul Vernon fed all of you lies for about 1.5 years saying everything was fine and BitJohn had posted a blog post saying we don't run a fractional-reserve like GOX did and we have bullet proof Cold storage etc.
If any of those claims were investigated a year or two earlier they would have been caught red handed sitting on US soil etc.
At the EXACT time Vern's wife got a fur coat, 100k ring and a million dollar mansion and dumb fuck from GOX was buying a bed for 38k and claiming hackers stole a few hundred thousand BTC.

But you enjoy your little "Free Market" guys.. you reap what you sow Investards.

And no neither burned me because i am smarter than you.
I seen massive hardcore red-flags galore when i started Crypto about GOX in mid-2013..
I seen tons of them as time went on with Cryptsy and got out way ahead of time
Far before the FUD babies clued in.. because i am smarter than you kidiots here.

Note: Shitcointalk has no age requirement.
See school photos posted here of the BlockNET kids having a water balloon fight in their school yard or the picture where the chubby little shits were eating in their school cafeteria..
Yup the same BlockNET brats who suckered you dumb fucks into giving these little kids 1 MILLION DOLLARS in ICO BTC money.

Go make it rain on toddlers fer teh ROI's Investard's.. free market yo ! NO LAWS bruh !!111
Just don't make me sit there listening to you chucklefuck's whining your little idiot ass's off after you get burned.

OMG CALL THE COPS I DUN INVESTARDED MYSELFS !!!!11

oh and i know damn well these retarded brats didn't make it past 1 sentence of this rant.. they are disabled high on Ritalin with ADD.. which is WHY they are getting burned.

OMG USE DUE DILIGENCE BRUH

Yup and.. that would require READING wouldn't it ? ROFL  Cheesy
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