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2181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 11, 2016, 12:51:04 PM
Of course I like bitcoin because bitcoin is money and profit...so there is no reason to hate bitcoin Grin Grin
but not everyone can benefit from bitcoin. for some people maybe bitcoin could make them lose their money.
it can result in a person who can change the assumptions about bitcoin.

True,  people would do hate  bitcoin if they lossed  their money especially on  its moving price when they try to invest and saving  up but  if you are a wise person you would surely wit  that the price would be profitable for you. If someone losses money then its possible  on scam sites for sure, but they dont have the right  to hate bitcoin because its their own fault.

You cannot hate bitcoins only because you loose money with it, as it was your decision that made you loose your money, if you would be patient then results would be different.
I agree with your words, and add one more that if you already have such a negative impression of a bitcoin, then why bother to engage or deal with cryptocurrency. If you have the patience and the results will be.
That's not the case for most people who hate bitcoins. Most of them actually haven't even tried bitcoin simply because either they see people losing money from it, or illegal acts are involved, or they are just really afraid for a change to try it. Ofcourse it's not bitcoin's fault why some people see it that way, but if we could only change that stigmata, then it would be good for bitcoin and for our community as well.
I think only for those who experiences can give you good investment but many scammers out there..they are experience of scam thats why they dont want to collect bitcoins again..

We all have scammed  in the past but we have learned from our mistakes and still prefer to invest in it so I think people should change their mentality and give one more chance to bitcoin and themselves.

if they don't want to change their mind about bitcoin then so be it. It's their loss in hating bitcoin and not used it as another source of Income.
There's a lot future of bitcoin by the way and they would regret it in the future.

Yes bitcoin is still in its younger age and it has still lot more to offer in future and if you quit bitcoin at this stage then you will surely regret in future.
yes it is a fact that bitcoin is  still new and most of the people have no idea about it, after time pass people will know about it and bitcoin will also provide more good feathers for people so it will become more popular among the people and then people will receive benefit from it.

If you want to get best benefits from the bitcoin in future then this is the right time to get into it, as price is not higher at a moment, but if  you delay then it will be more difficult to invest in future.

You have a point , if we truly trust bitcoin as an investment then we must  buy now  because the price is still good to consider which we could somewhat guarantee  that we make  profits in the  future  when bitcoin price would arises on upcoming years. We would really benefit us all for sure.
The price might be high for the eyes of the others but those who are supporters of bitcoin will not be satisfied of the price because we believe we can achieve a greater price and even surpass the previously peak price of bitcoin many years ago.
2182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 11, 2016, 12:46:09 PM
There are many reasons why people get addicted to gambling, some are here just for adrenaline, others think they will get profit if they will continue playing. Second type is worst, these people can easily lose all their money and fall into debt just to gamble more.
that's their wrong, to fall into debt just to gamble is not good. Gambling is just really not important at all in our life. This is just for an entertainment so why to fall into debt just to gamble.

Its the addiction or you may call it the ego and pride. They losed, then they want to get it back but it goes the otger way again. They come losing again until they want to loan being buried with debts.
And that is wrong with them, for me it better to stop than to still think of my ego.
I don't think they are doing the right thing to their life with this kind of scenario.
This is not really good at all and it should not be continue by other people also.
It should be stop or people should have their self-control in their every life.

Men usually act like that because we have bigger pride than women that we cannot afford to accept such defeat in any competition, and since we consider gambling as a way of competition we will do everything to win and losing is very hard to accept.
2183  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: September 11, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
Is it safe to keep all of my assets in Bitcoins? And how Department for Combating Economic Crimes, can affect my account?  What permissions they need , to freeze all my money ?
in my opinion there is no risk to kept your all asset in btc . if you are afraid that anyone can steal all your money ( in btc ) then you are wrong . you should never share your password and email password you will never get any loss of your money .

The risk is all their, because your money could be stolen and there is also a possibility that the value of bitcoin will be worthless, but if you are a real supporter and investor you would take that risk and stay firm in your decision to invest in bitcoin.

In bitcoin, there is no question about the security coded in the system but the problem there is in the user on how he will setup his own security so that his bitcoin wont be hacked or stolen by some malware.  And I think bitcoin will take sometime to become worthless but i doubt it will happen because the base users of bitcoin is well established and as far as I know there is already a multi billion dollar involved in bitcoin economy.

safety in saving yes it depends on the user, so far I am very safe. but sometimes anything can happen, examples such as hackers on major sites like bitfinex. so putting money in the exchanger can be unsafe, but in the wallet is very safe, as long as you either keep it.
I think not on exchanges only. may be done in an online wallet which is owned by a third party. where third parties have access to bitcoin pf users. so I think you have to be careful with any third party that you are using. I thought the purse would be safe. but fluctuations may be quite risky

If we do own  huge amounts of bitcoin and if we think  for its safety its better to buy a hardware wallet and  keep it on a storage that no one knows together with its   private keys and other information to access that hardware wallet. Just be sure that you wont  forget where you hide it. lol
I agree because it is better to be safe than sorry, with the right knowledge we can always protect our investment because what we are talking here is not just a small amount of money.
Yeah, because our investment is already our life, we need to understand that bitcoin provides us the opportunity to make money or it is already a clear success so what we need to do now is just protect our investment at all cause  to protect our future as well.
2184  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why we must trust with bitcoin? on: September 11, 2016, 12:24:12 PM
I think we can trust bitcoin, nowadays bitcoin is really have known and I know that when bitcoin is always using lots of people it will never make it bankrupt. It will make do other stuffs to make it bigger and make bitcoin become known of all people. I know that there are still people that don’t know about bitcoin but if bitcoin continue what they are doing I know that it will make it larger than ever.

Its good to trust bitcoin but we cannot afford to trust it blindly by putting all our money into it, as no one is clear about its future, and if something goes wrong with it then we may loose all our money.
Sometimes, i things must we trust Bitcoin as the future? I realy don't know much comprehensive working. But I still worries, how if someday bitcoins would be broken? Predator always looking for big, then wanna steal this one. Cause nothings is impossible i guess.
Thieves are everywhere but the system of bitcoin is so safe, only the exchange sites are having an issue of getting hack but in total system is very safe, we do not need to worry of the security if we do all the measure to safeguard our assets(bitcoins) and that is also to keep ourselves abreast on the latest security measures.
2185  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: September 11, 2016, 12:19:20 PM
Bitcoin is one of the best payment methods but it's a risky investment. Smiley
Absolutely but there is no investment without risk, you cannot grow your money without taking the risk because if there's any way to do that then we are all rich now, but I can say that there are calculated risk and that in investing with bitcoin you can calculate the risk as you the reward is more possible.
2186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 11, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
yes , i had gained much profit from gambling . i got my btc at first at faucets gambking site freebitco.in that was a awesome time for me . with single bet and with high risk i betted will all faucet collections and i got 0.001 btc . but at the same time the auto withdrawal sended my btc to my wallet .
otherwise i will continue my bet .

one day you would realize how fool you are spent a lot of times collecting useless faucet when a lot of better job to do out there , some people rely on faucet to earn bitcoin at first time they know about bitcoin but you can't do it forever in your life right? and then even you gamble from your faucet earning who earned with hard work , just ruin your life instead help your life.
I hope he will realize soon because I know some of us started with collecting faucets and we grow and learn that there better ways to earn money online that we do not need to spend a lot of our time.
2187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 11, 2016, 12:10:07 PM
Playing in demo mode is a nice way to enjoy betting but having no chance to lose.

However, i prefer to limit my gambling by setting a fixed amount every time i make a bet.
When i reached it, the game is over for me.
You will get bored easily, playing gambling without real money bet is not exciting and my suggestion is that you should not waste your time and put real money to enjoy gambling but always remember you do put money that you can afford to lose so when you will lose you will not be affected that much.
2188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 11, 2016, 11:51:43 AM
It didn't fix but didn't wreck my life either
That's just right because that should gambling affect our life, it should not ruin our life because it is just a mere entertainment that we need to spend money in order to get the right entertainment we wanted, it is just important we have to gamble responsibly in order to enjoy gambling and we will last.
2189  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 11, 2016, 11:43:38 AM
As long bitcoin has value its  worth to everyone, allowing people to  hedge against the fiat . So far, it also allows some people  in third world countries to actually help  their micro income  through something  on this forum.

It's true, I'm from a third world country and confirm that. Actually my bitcoin income here on this forum is not micro at all, it's not huge amount but it's nice.
I am in the 3rd world as well and I believe that depends on your needs and I can say that my income online is not enough but it can help somehow for me to enjoy a bit in my life, my income in real job do take care of my family needs and wants so I am thankful with bitcoin.
2190  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: September 11, 2016, 11:41:05 AM
The best thing you can do is investing into the bitcoin because allot of speculatings about that the price will be very high in the future can be true so why dont we all use bitcoins or just invest something.

If you have a good capital then you can buy bitcoins at this stage as price is not too high but if you are planning to invest bitcoin somewhere then it can be very risky.

 Grin It is getting late. It goes up more as each day past. I would also recommend them to buy it faster before it reaches the roof to where it will stand again there and just stay there for like a month again waving.

If the bitcoin still has community support and attract more users, the price of bitcoin will be more than $1000 next year.

$1k can be achieved buy not so easily, it will take long time to reach there and may be in the mid of next year we can see that price but its not possible to touch that price in this year.
In my prediction, we do not need a long time to achieve that because this year I have a great feeling that we can achieve the $1,000 and I am very positive it will happen because I also invested more money even at the current price now.
2191  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can a newbie earn bitcoins????? on: September 11, 2016, 07:55:39 AM
You can earn a little "bit" Cheesy from faucets  Smiley
this little "bit" doesn't worth to wast your  time.. I used faucets in past and didn't even earned one $ from them in a whole month.. there is much better ways of earning which a newbie can do.
they don't require any big skills and knowledge etc. specially social marketing. join facebook and twitter bounties of altcoin project and earn better than any faucet.

just found a runing social campaign sharing that here would be useful for you guys.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612051.0
Faucets will never give you a good earning because that is designed to give the owners of the site money but as workers you are just working with a little fee you receive, I know some of the people here started with faucets but now there is no need to start because there are ways to earn like signature campaign.
2192  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 11, 2016, 07:53:04 AM
i think bitcoin wallet is much more better bank wallet because bitcoin wallet is too much safer and bitcoin transaction fees is very and available everywhere for online shopping.
Let's put some twist on your side , How did you say so that bitcoin wallet is better than back wallet? is just because bitcoin wallet is much more safer? how about the bank ? Can you there have Customer support where if you need something you can make a call to them and banks and atm also can make transaction more easier than bitcoin.
in my honest opinion,bank have so many advantages on the security if you compare to bitcoin wallet just see that bank guaranteed your money when got hacked or whatelse as long you can prove that you're really losing the money in other side when you just once hacked and your money lost then it's lost,but you will be also forced to pay the monthly or weekly fees

Money in banks is insured, so even if your bank account gets hacked and if you loose money, banks will support you in recovering your money, but if your bitcoin wallet gets hacked then you can never recover your coins.
Yeah, that is true, bank is safe because it is governed by the government and it has insurance to ensure that depositors will have confidence on their deposits, however banks does not offer us a good investment and only bitcoin can give that to us.
2193  Economy / Services / Re: CoinMixer.se | Signature Campaign on: September 11, 2016, 12:13:11 AM
I think the payment should be in escrow and they are right you should consider increasing your pay a bit because it is too low for a minimum of post of 10 and maximum post of 35 a week, anyway that is just a suggestion but you can still continue but make sure you will escrow the amount.
2194  Economy / Services / Re: $5 per post. weekly. About technology on: September 10, 2016, 04:24:25 PM
I want to reserve a spot in case you need someone to do the job in the future. I am willing to work for you because I love technology and I have a lot of time to do the task. Please lock this thread now and reopen once you still need applicants.
2195  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: September 10, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
If I could predict in 2017 there was some progress than bitcoin. As many know bitcoin so much to use and adopt. Moreover the price in 2017 will be better than this year. Maybe it was a definite change occurred in bitcoin 2017. I also hope that the scam sites on bitcoin will be reduced so that it will be easier to use.
After too many scam sites run people money I think now they already learn a lesson and I agree 2017 will be big and the scam sites will reduce thier innocent victim.

Till people will keep on entertaining those sites by investing their money, those sites will always keep on operating, people should understand the fact that there is no formula to double coins.
There is always a formula because it is possible to double our money in bitcoin but there is also a possibility we lose our money instantly, everything is a gamble here and we are only basing our decisions on historical and present facts to have at least an understanding on the right speculation.
2196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 10, 2016, 02:22:02 PM
well i think most of us would agree here that gambling doesn't really help us when i comes to financial concept because it's likely that you will lose more even if you win in the long run and even if you win, the amount you've invested and lost would still be bigger that the amount you've won
Yeah well said, that is true and we cannot use gambling in our daily lives for me this is really not important but one thing is for sure gambling is really entertaining and that is why many gambler are getting hooked easily with this.
At first it is entertaining but when you experience is more on losing than winning time will come you will not appreciate gambling and you will hate it, it is only good for the people who are having fun and will not think of the money being lose in the game but for people who are in desperate need of money and use gambling as the solution, it would certainly not help them.
2197  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: September 10, 2016, 02:11:45 PM
I would not recommend you to do it right now because 1 bitcoin is not a lot and the price is also not very good right now if the price lowers a bit you could do it.
Than there is also a guarantee that you will make profit for sure.

1BTC not a lot? I think it's completely the opposite. Especially if you consider that the majority of the people here hold an amount less than that. Also, what might be seen as a small amount for one person, can be a large amount for the other.
It is actually a lot of money but not a lot for long term investment, that is what we are trying to say here. Bitcoin has a good future so if you will only invest that 1 BTC and hope to earn profit you would not receive a decent amount, we should take this opportunity to invest more to earn more.

Even if you have only 1 btc you can do much with it, you can start trading with that amount and you would be able to grow your coins and in future you will be holding descent amount of coins.

I agree, with 1 bitcoin i doubt it will make you rich even after 10 years of holding it.  The best way would be use it to investments.  Or trade it in altcoin/bitcoin and let it grow there.  You can earn a profit exponentially if you are able to invest and reap its profit in a weekly to monthly basis. But of course avoid HYIPs and Ponzis

Yeah ponzis will not serve the purpose in long run and you will surely loose everything at the end of the day, better option is to invest in altcoin trading and start making regular profits.
Definitely altcoin investment is a better choice compared to HYIP, although it is true that there are some altcoins that will be scam later but at least we can always make a research on the project and developers so we can avoid those less funded investment, and with the high volume coins it is easy to make money.
2198  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: September 10, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
I believe that loans are always going to be risky, that's why they are called loans.  Especially if you are seeking to  lend out with a lot of interest , you are definitely going  to be carrying a lot of risks on  your shoulders. I suggest that  you just hold the bitcoins  for now , considering the  possibility for future price increases.

That is why I am not taking loans even in real life because the salary that you are going to get is the one that you are going to pay for your debt plus with the interest with it. But if the advantage of taking loans is that if you are unable to buy a property or car, then you can just go to the nearest bank and have your loan but still that is going to put you in deep debt.
Loans usually should be used to get something you cant buy or purchase on the moment you wanna or need it, like a car or a house, to get a loan you need a job otherwise banks wont allow you to get anything, and sure you need to be realistic and see if you will be able to pay the interest over the months.
Of course because banks are not stupid to loan a person without any assurance that he can pay back his loan, banks are in for business and if possible they will charge us a bigger charges for them to increase their income, so we should not be expensive with our standard way of living so we would have something to spend when in times of trouble.
2199  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 10, 2016, 01:54:46 PM
Yes Bitcoin worth to me, because i prefer to making my deals and trades with this crypto currency instead of fiat and other altcoins


Well for me either bitcoin is really worth it. Since I knew bitcoin the terms of payment that I am doing for my utility bills instead of paying them with fiat money and going to the physical payment store. Now, I don't have to do it because I can conveniently pay even I am just at home and going to use bitcoin for paying it.
That's the convenience when using bitcoin, you can transact at the comfort of your own home, because our local exchange has many partners that accepts bitcoin, and for me it is worth to me so much because I can earn bitcoin and I was able to pay all my liabilities and bills with the money that I earn.

Yeah bitcoin is taking care of our daily expenses and it is also increasing our monthly income so I think its a really worth to all of us and it will be more worth in future when price goes higher.

Same here at this point bitcoin is helping my family alot especially in our monthlyy budget.  It serve as supplement to the family financial needs.  Due to thiss signature campaign and other bounties that gives btc as a reward, the family somehow got extra money to save unlike when I was not active with bitcoin works.
True, but we should not only be contented with the income of the signature campaign because there are many ways to earn here that you do not need to burn a lot of your time just to earn a little amount, however you need to start with a good investment for you to be possible to earn income then.
2200  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 10, 2016, 10:50:50 AM
Bitcoins is not so trusted and timetested as gold, i am gonna choose gold from this both, but bitcoins is also good, it's just my own opinion. Bitcoins is just new for me.

Maybe only you doesn't trust bitcoin but with me I really do trust bitcoin as it is a good type of investment. Even though it has unstable price, still I'm taking that as an advantage to earn. Because I am just holding my bitcoins and every time the price is fluctuating high I am becoming happy with it. I know gold has what it takes, but I like more bitcoin.
Trusting bitcoin is important for every investor and users of bitcoin because without trust we will not support it when time of crisis, we have seen the bitcoin has shaken its market but it still recovers and now we are enjoying a good price right in front of us.
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