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221  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥[ANN]🚀UZOMA🚀-Hotel Pertama,Tour and Travel Marketplace In Bali with 0%🔥 on: December 14, 2018, 03:46:09 AM
Project asal Indonesia kembali hadir, dan menawarkan konsep yang sangat menarik nih menurut ane, semoga bisa mengikuti kesuksesan project sebelumnya, yaitu pundiX ya, pundiX merupakan project asal Indonesia yang bisa sukses besar, tapi ini nilai suplainya pasti banyak banget nih token, 1 eth saja 3.4500.000 token, menarik mengikuti project ini  Wink
ya tentu gak bisa di sama in atau di bandingkan dengan pundi x dong, secara visi misi dan konsep kedua proyek ini sangat berbeda, pundi memang terbilang sukses besar di awal awal kemunculan nya tetapi itu tidak bertahan lama karena badai datang melanda crypto sehingga semua harga down. tapi untuk proyek uzoma sendiri sepertinya bakal tetap eksis, karena dunia wisata setiap tahun selalu meningkat, jadi sangat tepat jika berharap proyek ini akan mudah berkembang nantinya.
222  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] PLAYGAME : MENGGERAKAN DAYA EKONOMI GAME ANDA DENGAN BLOCKCHAIN on: December 14, 2018, 03:28:36 AM
benar gan harus ektra sabar untuk melihat pxg naik karena pengaruh situasi market cukup terasa bagi coin baru.di tunggu saja platfrom nya jalan karena kalau platfrom nya banyak di minati mungkin harga akan naik juga gan.apalagi platfrom game pasti akan mudah menarik peminat gan.
Para pemegang token PXG kayaknya lebih baik menahan token yang mereka miliki saja dulu, sayang juga menjual dengan harga yang sekarang. Kayaknya nanti token ini juga tetap akan listing di exchange favorit, tinggal lebih sabar saja untuk menahan tokennya beberapa waktu lagi.
baiknya memang seperti itu gan, tetapi kadang kan tidak semua orang bisa bersabar, apalagi jika mereka di desak oleh kebutuhan keluarga untuk itulah kadang orang orang tersebut lebih memilih untuk segera menjual hasil dari bounty yang mereka miliki, berapapun harga saat itu,
223  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Ada yang tahu berapa harga Waves diakhir tahun 2018 ini? on: December 14, 2018, 03:21:15 AM
sulit untuk memastikan harga suatu coin untuk saat ini ,kita juga tahu keadaan market seperti apa sekarang ,memang waves salah satu coin bagus bukan berarti kita bisa tahu atau memastikan harga waves di akhir tahun, berapa nilai nya
itu ya jelas gan, siapa juga sih yang tahu keadaan pasti di masa depan, tetapi disini kan kita bisa memprediksi dan menganalisis pergerakan harga dari garafik dan even even yang akan atau sedang berlangsung, seperti halnya waves, kemungkinan harga akan menembus 40000 an deh secara beberapa hari terakhir grafik pergerakan harga waves terus meningkat,
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ITO] ERASWAPTOKEN - ONLY 4 WEEKS UPTO 2 MILLION EST | PHASE 2 on: December 13, 2018, 02:29:41 AM
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225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Holding BTC at this satge is a bad idea? on: December 11, 2018, 04:04:42 AM
BTC is showing weakness and loosing ground day by day I think it is the time for the investors to book profit who are on profit and minimize losses who already suffered a big loss. Can anybody enlighten me on this issue now?
Well i think its the best time to buy more bitcoin right now cause in my opinion bitcoin are started to be use widely for example there is 1500 restaurants that accept bitcoin in denmark and also french tobacoo shops will starts to sell bitcoin in january. I believe we are started to use cryptocurrency for transaction and its good for bitcoin. The price of bitcoin also so good for new institutional investors to invest for long term.
yes, with more and more places accepting bitcoin as a means of payment, it will indeed be a breath of fresh air in the crypto world, because the problem lately is the lack of real-world transactions using bitcoin, they are only traded in the crypto market, which makes crypto difficult developing..
226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how governments can regulate digital currencies? on: December 11, 2018, 03:52:12 AM
I think they would not regulate the currency itself, is the places where they trade, we can already see the kyc that exchanges are asking for, that's a way to regulate, because with the kyc and you can start tracking the money and operations of that user.
The government certainly has a way to find out who the crypto owner is in his country, and tries to get revenue from crypto transactions. The government can request data from the crypto exchange, because from there the government will follow up according to the rules in the country.
I think the issue of regulation is only used as a tool to create problems, so it can drop crypto, especially bitcoin, even though the bitcoin transaction is very transparent, then what's the problem? I even thought that the government did not regulate crypto because there were other hidden factors
227  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥[ANN]🚀UZOMA🚀-Hotel Pertama,Tour and Travel Marketplace In Bali with 0%🔥 on: December 08, 2018, 05:58:47 PM
Proyek seperti ini sudah pernah ada sebelumnya, tapi tetap juga membuat ane tertarik untuk mempromosikan proyek ini agar semakin dikenal masyarakat luas, dengan tambahan fitur fitur yang menarik lainnya Uzoma bisa menjadi pilihan dalam berinvestasi.

Banyak gan proyek yang mempunyai konsep seperti UZOMA, sering kita jumpai di forum ini. Tapi bagusnya UZOMA karena mengambil tempat bisnis di Bali sebagai tempat pariwisata yang banyak menarik minat pelancong dari berbagai negara untuk datang kesana. Mudah-mudahan proyek ini bisa sukses ya gan, agar teknologi blockchain semakin dikenal masyarakat luas, terutama masyarakat Indonesia.
ya, lagi lagi bali menjadi salah satu magnet untuk menarik investor, dan saya rasa proyek ini memang layak mendapat perhatian khusus, meski sudah ada beberapa proyek yang serupa dengan uzoma ini, karena kalau melihat garis besarnya proyek ini memiliki masa depan yang cukup nyata karena bekerja sama dengan hotel hotel besar yang ada di pulau dewata tersebut
228  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] PLAYGAME : MENGGERAKAN DAYA EKONOMI GAME ANDA DENGAN BLOCKCHAIN on: December 08, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
kebanyakan memang belum mendapatkan gan, karena dari admin sendiri ada yang sudah menjelaskan memang ada kesalahan atau gangguan pada saat distribusi itu membuat team harus menghentikan distribusi untuk sementara. jadi ditunggu saja.
Kalau sepenangkapan ane yang belum dapat distribusi ini karena mereka belum memverifikasi no telp pada akun playgame mereka.
Jadi bagi yang belum menerima distribusi reward masih dikasih kesempatan dengan cara memverifikasi akun playgamenya terlebih dahulu kemudian mengisi formulir yang disediakan.
iya nih musti gerak cepat, kan sayang jika sampai tidak menerima token nya, karena sepertinya proyek ini memiliki potensi yang sangat matang
semoga saja gak ada yang sampai kecolongan dengan tidak mengisi form tersebut dan kehilangan peluang besar di masa mendatang.
229  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Token Ico Yang berkualitas on: December 08, 2018, 05:23:58 PM
Lihat profil team dan developer gan, jika team kuat biasanya setelah ico harga juga bakal tinggi. Apalagi penjualan token ico nya mencapai hardcap, biasanya harga malah lebih tinggi dari harga ico. Ini hanya sedikit pengalaman saya gan, jadi pintar-pintar kita untuk memantau perkembangan project ico.
lebih tepatnya memang kita harus terus mengikuti perkembangan dari token hasil ico yang kita miliki baik itu dari investasi ataupun hasil dari bounty, jika memang team proyeknya aktif melakukan kegiatan serta proyeknya selalu sesuai peta jalan serta memiliki komunitas yang kuat tentu kita memiliki harapan bagus jika mempertahankan token tersebut, tetapi hal tersebut juga disesuaikan dengan kondisi pasar nya juga, karena bagaimanapun muara akhir nya adalah di pasar tersebut, jika kondisinya kurang bagus ya mau tidak mau kita harus sabar menunggu
230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whose advice you take when it comes to Bitcoin? on: December 05, 2018, 08:08:02 AM
When it comes to bitcoin , I would love to hear from my close friend ,which can I be trusted, I may also considered advice fron the senior member of the bitcoin forum , they are experienced and can give a brotherly advice to their co members seeking for an important ideas about bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
yes it is indeed a wise way, by asking for and hearing opinions from other people who are more knowledgeable and experienced, because then we have more options to make decisions, because if we only take the initiative themselves sometimes it tends to be wild lust that does not controlled, so that we cannot be wise in making decisions.
231  Economy / Speculation / Re: 10 good reasons to buy bitcoin now (2018 edition) on: December 05, 2018, 07:24:20 AM
And how o you know that the demand will be overwhelming once ETF is approved. I think it it was just approved and we're only waiting for the launch, but it doesn't mean that suddenly everybody will want it. There's plenty of people waiting for an opportunity to sell with a profit and the market isn't ready to go crazy yet.

It will be a big buy signal for anyone already in the game, so the first wave of money comes from the ones already standing in the sidelines. The money coming through an ETF itself is only a part of this and it will come in later on. And once more and more people start to think "the bottom is in", the craze will build itself again. I think there is a decent chance the ETF could be the spark in this. It's important to think of it as a spark.
exactly, because the delay in the ETF ruling that dragged on late yesterday was indeed one of the factors that caused the decline in the price of the BTC, so if later the ETF was successful then people would be excited again and certainly would have a very good impact.
232  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is anonymity the future for bitcoin??? on: December 04, 2018, 04:38:46 AM
As we can see each and every transaction for bitcoin is publicly registered to the blockchain where in all of us have access, so I am just thinking if anonymity or providing privacy will be the next move for bitcoin. Just my thoughts, you can add yours here and let's discuss it.

I dont think so. Anonymity is one of the feature of cryptocurrency, but not in bitcoin.
You can use mixer to make your bitcoin transaction anonymous though. There are few mixer advertise in this forum.
But i think bitcoin future according to satoshi is to become a future peer to peer currency, not to become an anonymous currency.
yes, anonymity will only be misused by irresponsible parties, therefore bitcoin does not need it,
bitcoin is created with a noble purpose, so that all is transparent, so anonymity is very contrary to the purpose of  bitcoin.
233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: does bitcoin look scary / deadly for the future ...? on: December 04, 2018, 04:13:34 AM
bitcoin looks scary / deadly for the future for those who truly do not fully understand and believe in the bitcoin ideology. They just interested in making profit out of it. Bitcoin in future will be discussed over the dinning as a thing of joy with our grandchildren as it wll surely effect life in the best positive way
Bitcoin was created on the basis of idealism to create independent digital currencies, meaning that it does not depend on other currencies or government pressure in determining prices. The price of bitcoin was formed because of an agreement in the bitcoin market itself. So bitcoin is not scary at all, because the ideology is independence.
yes, for this reason many world government governments seem to be tackling the development of bitcoin,
because basically they don't approve of that independence, and I think that's what makes bitcoin continue to be depressed until now.
234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Even people in here now give up on Bitcoin on: December 04, 2018, 04:04:24 AM
Well i agree that there are so many people today that is now really suffering from the huge dip that we are now experiencing, sometimes because price is really bored and it is really becoming more worst everyday due to the continuous drop that bitcoin price experience but I believe that it will never become loss if we hold on until the price turn back so I suggest yo never give up.
if you just wait for the price to return, it seems to be getting worse, because we never know when prices will return high, especially almost all parties wrongly predict the price of bitcoin this year, it shows that in reality the price of bitcoin is not what we imagined
235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open your eyes! on: December 03, 2018, 11:23:53 PM
I do not know what will happen to bitcoin tomorrow or the day after tomorrow , but I know that investing in bitcoin today is a big risk for me . So while I will wait and watch the state of the cryptocurrency market .

Or you can use systems that are not integrated in the global financial system that's so prone to be in crisis.
it's a sign if you don't really like bitcoin, isn't it if we really love bitcoin, we don't care about anything that happens, even though it sounds ridiculous, but basically most bitcoin holders don't just see the value, but more to its blockchain technology, and believes it can bring a better financial future.
236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: lets see the good sides when bitcoin continues to crash on: December 03, 2018, 11:10:46 PM
Bitcoin decline below $ 4k has now happened again, if we dare to take the current price most likely you will be lucky, the good side of bitcoin will always come without stopping and I believe next year bitcoin and crypto will get good value
Hopefully it will start to rise up again by next year.This crash of bitcoin does not really brings a negative effect on bitcoin because this will be the best opportunity to start with great investments in bitcoin.For sure we will gain good returns in the following year if we keep on holding today.
yes, it is indeed one of the expectations of the bitcoin holders, but before that really happens, for a moment let's reflect on it and we can learn and take lessons from this situation, that in the future we must be wiser in managing the assets we have, don't too high hopes, because in reality it is difficult to happen.
237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Perspective about HODL. on: December 03, 2018, 10:58:55 PM
Well the term HODL is used when trying not to sell a particular coin bought, either at a bear or bull market run. It's when one decided not to sell a particular or some amounts of coin for a particular time and hodl till some kind of improvement or for a lengthy period of time.
That happens because the price of the assets they have is down and does not match the previous price. Because everyone certainly does not want to loss so there is nothing wrong with holding back the assets that we have.
yeah, basically the ones who do the hodl are people who expect the value of a coin they have to rise, but instead the price drops, so there is no other option but to hold it back, and the discussion here is whether it is the right choice? if in my opinion it depends on the courage of each person, because choosing to hold it or not is not an easy choice, there are always bad consequences in it.
238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do not worry about the future of Bitcoin! It is just beginning on: December 02, 2018, 11:53:48 PM
people aren't worried about future of bitcoin, they are worried about the short term profit that they may or may not make that is why there is so much anxiousness these days with a ton of nonsense topics where they think they are spreading FUD!

the future of bitcoin is good but not because some imaginary giant investors are coming in. in fact these investors (like wall street) are bad for bitcoin, they make money from dumping bitcoin as much as they do pumping it and we don't want to see bitcoin turn into a pump and dump.
future of bitcoin is good because of the actual potential it has as a decentralized payment system that works globally in in safest way possible.
nowadays most people only see bitcoin in terms of value, so when the value of bitcoin is bad then people consider bitcoin not good and even say bitcoin will die, even though bitcoin is more than a value, as you have said. so let's start now we change our perspective about bitcoin.
239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: look at this article bitcoin at 5.5k and they still called it a "dip" on: December 02, 2018, 11:42:23 PM
If you bought the $5500 dip and the price would have gone back over $6000 directly people would congratulate you. Now the price has gone down well below that level, they make fun of those who bought that dip.

Isn't it the same as what happened last year? People right now literally make fun of those who bought the top, while back then it could have pumped over $50,000 without much problems.

The way the price kept going up continuously last year makes going from $20,000 to $50,000 a piece of cake. People didn't only held their coins firmly, but they bought more to book more profits while the price keeps increasing.

well if the price returns to 6k what no one believes, he could have bought at the 4k dip instead of the 5.5k dipp.

problem is that we point out here the complete worthlessness of human information in this market, because everything is agenda and interest driven so no point taking it serious,

i saw a cryptomagazine today that calls itself "sludgefeed" well there is a lot of truth to that.

bitcoin wont go back to 20k it will not even return to 5k anymore.
Why not? if only back to $ 5k it seems very likely, but if it doesn't happen until the end of this month, it's likely that the price of bitcoin will continue to decline because of the loss of investor confidence in it, and the strong influence of the government of the world impressed so aggressively to drop crypto
240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hello cryptoworld after few months and bitcoin price is around $4000(!) on: December 02, 2018, 11:30:12 PM
Earlier this year people thought Bitcoin price is going to cross $25k or even $50k. Now the price dropped around $4k. I guess few days ago I saw the price was around $3500. Which direction we are going by the way?
When in early 2017, the price of Bitcoin was around $900, someone told me that at the end of 2018 it will cost $3,000. I laughed because I thought that the maximum can be $1500. It turned out that it cost $20,000 at the end of the year.
Now price is $4000 and if someone tells me it will rise to $100,000, I do not laugh anymore.

right, there is always a good chance, when conditions are bad, and bitcoin always gives a surprise surprise, when the price rises uncontrollably, everyone is shocked, and when it falls sharply everyone is surprised, so from now on get used to understanding the price movements of bitcoin so that in the future it doesn't make a wrong decision.
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