Only ZEC end ETH Claymore is fully compatible with new and-gpu drivers. Rest XMR especially is not compatible with new drivers so thats why isnt working  Mmm.. you should do some more testing because it is perfectly working.. |
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Pricing model may have changed or my interpretation is poor. Heliox = ELIOVP. From the Ethereum thread, it says you need to purchase a minimum of 10 OS copies. The ROM plus 1 OS copy is $400 which is $4K. "(writing this on multiple systems will have no point as you won't be able to use it without me activating it)". I read that as you can't really just buy the ROM for $400 and be able to use it on multiple Pandas. If you can purchase the ROM only then that's not a bad deal if you're planning on a few Pandas. @Eliovp - please don't take it the wrong way, as I've said before, you have a great product and I hope you get compensated for your time. It's just a shame that such a great product is tied to just Pandas when it really can be used for many other AMD GPUs platforms. All large farm's biggest pain point is the RMA process and doing that with China makes it 100x worst. Long shipping time, high cost of shipping and lost mining revenue is not great for ROI. The larger your farm the higher count of items that will need RMAs. My partners still have S9 boards that took almost 2 month to replace. The lost of mining revenue during lower difficult on that is substantial. We only had to put up with that with Bitmain because they're the only game in town for Bitcoin mining. It's definitely not the same for GPU mining. You've made it very clear that your solution is targeting large farms, but I think most large farms will not be investing that heavily into Pandas with such a weak warranty and slow / expensive China replacement process. You're the King of ROMs and now that you have a sexy management interface, would be nice to see your offering on other platforms. I know you mentioned that you're not interested in doing that yet, but hopefully it's something planned for down the road. Heliox Posts: 603Member, Moderator mod January 21 edited January 21 Ok, i will most probably disappoint a few people with my decision but i have a few reasons why i decided to go this route. 1. I have no time to support multiple people with questions remarks, etc.. 2. I've spent a large amount of time on this, so basically risking it all by selling single copies is not something i want to do. (in other words, if i sell one copy for example, it'll take a week before someone shares it, with this i'm more concerned about the rom..) 3. There are other alternatives which also work perfectly and give awesome support, PiMP for example.. So, what i decided to do. What i will offer - A package for european people: Pandaminer + "OS, Monitor, Remote Management" + ROM for 3200EUR VAT incl. - I will not offer single copies of the PandamOS, reasons why are stated above. I will however sell the rom for 400$ and a single copy of the OS will be included. (writing this on multiple systems will have no point as you won't be able to use it without me activating it) - Regarding the OS, i will only offer a minimum of 10 copies. It's just not interesting for me otherwise. And as i said before, i know what will happen if i agree on single copies. - Last thing i offer is a "Fee base" system, i agree, still not interesting for small home miners. And i apologise for that. Again, it's just not interesting for me otherwise. So in other words, yes i know, what i offer is very interesting for large scale miners and not so for smaller ones. On the other hand, like i said, there are plenty of other alternatives for all you small home miners I'm always open for negotiation though. Pm me for that. Hey Yun, You quoted a post from Ethereum Forum which i posted here as well Anyhow, it's simple, if you buy the rom you get a copy of the OS with it. No charge. If you want more, the minimum order is 10 copies yes. (this has nothing to do with the rom as you only need to buy this one time.) I agree that it isn't very clear, but it's not so difficult either  So if you have for example 4 units and you're interested. That will cost you 400$ for the rom + 1 copy. For your other 3 units you will,( yes and i know it might sound stupid for a lot of you but that's just how i want it to be) need to get 10 copies. which is another 300 dollar. So in total 700. Otherwise it'll be 400 for the rom and a copy of the os. Greetings! |
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Which makes his rom pretty valuable for bigger players.
@ Eliovp I am playing with simpleminer and learning how to use it.
Your os is similar correct?
If I image to a usb will the pandaminer boot from a usb stick or do I need to image to a msata?
You can image it on a usb stick as well, but i would prefer not to. It's just simply better to not run an OS on a usb stick becuase of the constant read/write.. If you have a very good and fast usbstick, yeah, that might be ok as well. Greetings! |
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He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(
] Not just $400 but with a minimum quantity of 10. So I believe it's $4K as a starting point or $1K markup for a Panda with crappy warranty but I believe he's open to negotiate. He's put some good effort into it so I hope he will be rewarded for his time as Eliovp has been great to the community. However, I've been mining for a long time and I know how hard it is on the hardware, I'm not even sure if the Panda can finish ROI before the box dies when he's marking it up $1k with his package. This is why I built my own and get to enjoy the long warranty the different vendors offers. Eliovp definitely have can do some awesome stuff but the high premium in this rough ROI stream on such a risky product is a tough sell since it's Panda specific vs the MASS which is say RX480 or R9 390, etc. Simplemining.net with it's current free package as well as all the big mining software in a Plug and play solution seems like a big winner to me. We still need to find good ways to support innovators like ELIOVP and others who are taking up their valuable times to come up with great ideas for the mining community. However, it needs to be affordable so that the mass can enjoy the benefit not just the super wealthy FAT Whale miners. This is why I love Simplemining.net owner as his product is great but he have said even when it's ready for PRIME time, the max it will be is a few bucks per rig. To be honest, even with some features missing, his OS is DAMN GOOD and 10x better than Windows crap with the corrupt drivers, 0 hash issues or constant windows updates. My R9 Furies are killling it on Optimer and stable as a ROCK! I can't say the same with Windows. As others have pointed out, it's not 400$ x every pandaminer. It's a one time buy. so one time 400, which is super interesting if you have multiple units. In case of it "being hard for the hardware", that's the funny part, i clocked them down, so they're basically modded to last longer.. + i also mentioned that there are alternatives. (in case of OS). You don't have to get mine, i don't mind If the owner of simplemining wants to do all of that for free, that's his decission, i'm not going to. The main thing is the rom, the rom will help you ROI a lot faster, even with the extra cost. Ask Philipma, he did the calculations.. Greetings Ah... I see... that makes sense.... otherwise Eliovp will be a millionaire like Claymore  Eliovp.... Check PM Already Replied, I'm saving for a Maserati.. long way to go Haha  |
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with the new Eliovp ROM with all that wattage savings.... can I assume a 1300w EVGA would be enough to to stretch the Panda legs?
Mor than enough  |
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He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(
] Not just $400 but with a minimum quantity of 10. So I believe it's $4K as a starting point or $1K markup for a Panda with crappy warranty but I believe he's open to negotiate. He's put some good effort into it so I hope he will be rewarded for his time as Eliovp has been great to the community. However, I've been mining for a long time and I know how hard it is on the hardware, I'm not even sure if the Panda can finish ROI before the box dies when he's marking it up $1k with his package. This is why I built my own and get to enjoy the long warranty the different vendors offers. Eliovp definitely have can do some awesome stuff but the high premium in this rough ROI stream on such a risky product is a tough sell since it's Panda specific vs the MASS which is say RX480 or R9 390, etc. Simplemining.net with it's current free package as well as all the big mining software in a Plug and play solution seems like a big winner to me. We still need to find good ways to support innovators like ELIOVP and others who are taking up their valuable times to come up with great ideas for the mining community. However, it needs to be affordable so that the mass can enjoy the benefit not just the super wealthy FAT Whale miners. This is why I love Simplemining.net owner as his product is great but he have said even when it's ready for PRIME time, the max it will be is a few bucks per rig. To be honest, even with some features missing, his OS is DAMN GOOD and 10x better than Windows crap with the corrupt drivers, 0 hash issues or constant windows updates. My R9 Furies are killling it on Optimer and stable as a ROCK! I can't say the same with Windows. As others have pointed out, it's not 400$ x every pandaminer. It's a one time buy. so one time 400, which is super interesting if you have multiple units. In case of it "being hard for the hardware", that's the funny part, i clocked them down, so they're basically modded to last longer.. + i also mentioned that there are alternatives. (in case of OS). You don't have to get mine, i don't mind If the owner of simplemining wants to do all of that for free, that's his decission, i'm not going to. The main thing is the rom, the rom will help you ROI a lot faster, even with the extra cost. Ask Philipma, he did the calculations.. Greetings |
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Start digging this stuff too, is to hard to find any timing information in GDDR5 specification reference material?
The Mode Registers help. |
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If you pay 400$ (and buy the pandaminer directly on the panda miner site) you get the OS and the ROM, each rig will cost you only 30$ afterwords. Thats totally fine I would say. i Agree to buy the pandaminer with the OS and ROM as one package its expensive but as long as you buy the panda miner by urself its totally okay.
So the rom mod is a one time purchase, after that you pay only for the licence per pandaminer to run the OS ? Yes I would think so Ok so basically you can buy 2 images, 1x with only the OS (free) , 1x with the OS + bios mod (free + 400$), and after that you only have to pay for the OS licence (30$ ish) per pandaminer you use the OS image on. That make more sense Would be something if i would charge 400 for every pandaminer That wouldn't be very fair now would it? |
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Thx everyone for the nice words Really appreciate it! Will continue my work on the monitor/manager. Got a huge todo list which i plan to finish ASAP. Something that i haven't seen mentioned before, the pandaminer gets delivered with already modified roms. Meaning, they already used PolarisBiosEditor to copy straps. So on top of that, i was still able to increase the hash and decrease power Greetings! |
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Looks like SimpleMiningOS, but little bit more expensive Why are you limiting yourself by a pandaminer thing? They will produce 500 pieces ? 1000? 5000? Uncompared to regular mining rigs. Strange decision! Haha, Looks like Ethos, Pimp and SimpleminingOS, a combination of the best features of them all + some extra.. Expensive is relative. It could be for you, but not for someone who sees the benefit of it. Don't forget that the high price mainly comes from the rom. If you would realize how much work, time and effort it takes to create something like this, you'd think otherwise. If Simplemining admin wants to do all of this for free, that's good for him I don't. I'm limiting myself because as i've mentioned, i do not have the time and to be honest, not in the mood to offer support for single copies or a lot of people. + like you said yourself, there's already PiMP, Ethos and Simplemining. No problem, you are the boss! BTW is it possible to deep tune bios for card i need? for example SAPPHIRE NITRO+ OC 470 4G. If yes, PM me with price and conditions. Sure thing! And you've got yourself (to be honest) one of the best cards out there Greetings |
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Looks like SimpleMiningOS, but little bit more expensive Why are you limiting yourself by a pandaminer thing? They will produce 500 pieces ? 1000? 5000? Uncompared to regular mining rigs. Strange decision! Haha, Looks like Ethos, Pimp and SimpleminingOS, a combination of the best features of them all + some extra.. Expensive is relative. It could be for you, but not for someone who sees the benefit of it. Don't forget that the high price mainly comes from the rom. If you would realize how much work, time and effort it takes to create something like this, you'd think otherwise. If Simplemining admin wants to do all of this for free, that's good for him I don't. I'm limiting myself because as i've mentioned, i do not have the time and to be honest, not in the mood to offer support for single copies or a lot of people. + like you said yourself, there's already PiMP, Ethos and Simplemining. |
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All is about price/performance...
How is it with fan speed control? Is it only software mod, or any hw mod? And fan speed range in %?
Im asking because I have my Pandaminer in very cold room where is only 5C.
Exactly my thoughts. Fan speed control works just fine, but not on the pandaminer as those fans are not controllable. If you check Phillip's thread you'll see that he did a small mod to be able to control them. Anyhow, in my case, those gpu's almost never exceed 50 degrees.. I will boot it up and i'll let it mine to the demo account so you can see. Greetings. |
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demo version - 268s/s ZEC it is with your modified ROM?
in my Win10 (no special mod) it is 258s/s so gain 10s/s is relatively small
Will you offer for free miner software update as is common in ethOS, simpleminingOS etc?
3200EUR ?
I paid to DHL (EU) VAT only aprox. 37USD, so in total incl. shipping 2360USD.
3200EUR is aprox. 3400USD so you want more than 1000USD (!) more...
Are you VAT registered?
Otherwise good job, but min. 10 licences and 400USD with ROM is too high. You're killing it by this price :-(
That's just 1 card hooked up to the test system to show in the demo , it doesn't have the mod for the panda gpu's. (Check the speed again, 290ish.. i just changed it, especially for you :p) Yeah, 3200eur vat included. I'm not selling only the panda miner, i'm selling it completely modified, faster, more power friendly, remotely manageable, monitor, .. Oh, forgot to mention, important thing, this includes a PSU. I am VAT registered yes It's either 10 licenses minimum or 400 if you take only the rom + a single copy. As i said, for a small home miner it indeed is expensive, i can't argue that. Greetings! and how it is with free miner software update? (future versions Claymore/optiminer/sgminer etc.) yes, 290s/s looks better, but also it is on much higher freq. "for a small home miner it indeed is expensive" In my experience, larger buyers pushes the price of a lot more than smaller home miners... Otherwise I'm interested, but certainly not for 400USD. Edit: High freq? :p those cards are stock 1300+ core, trust me , these are definitely not high freq.'s :p Updates are included, same thing as i said above, i will upgrade the manager/monitor almost every day with new features. This also includes new miners if and when they are available and stable. Also a reason why i'm not selling single copies. If someone else want to do a lot of work for free or for pennies, that is their thing, i'm not going to. Getting paid for something you love to do drives you to make it even better. If you do something for free or for pennies, and the only thing you get is complaints or people with issues, that is something that does definitely not drive you to improve things, that will only drive you off of a bridge. I'm not forcing anyone anything. I'm offering it and if it does not fit you in some way, no worries! Greetings! |
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demo version - 268s/s ZEC it is with your modified ROM?
in my Win10 (no special mod) it is 258s/s so gain 10s/s is relatively small
Will you offer for free miner software update as is common in ethOS, simpleminingOS etc?
3200EUR ?
I paid to DHL (EU) VAT only aprox. 37USD, so in total incl. shipping 2360USD.
3200EUR is aprox. 3400USD so you want more than 1000USD (!) more...
Are you VAT registered?
Otherwise good job, but min. 10 licences and 400USD with ROM is too high. You're killing it by this price :-(
That's just 1 card hooked up to the test system to show in the demo , it doesn't have the mod for the panda gpu's. (Check the speed again, 290ish.. i just changed it, especially for you :p) Yeah, 3200eur vat included. I'm not selling only the panda miner, i'm selling it completely modified, faster, more power friendly, remotely manageable, monitor, .. Oh, forgot to mention, important thing, this includes a PSU. I am VAT registered yes It's either 25 licenses minimum or 400 if you take only the rom + a single copy. As i said, for a small home miner it indeed is expensive, i can't argue that. Greetings! |
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Ok, i will most probably disappoint a few people with my decision but i have a few reasons why i decided to go this route. 1. I have no time to support multiple people with questions remarks, etc.. 2. I've spent a large amount of time on this, so basically risking it all by selling single copies is not something i want to do. (in other words, if i sell one copy for example, it'll take a week before someone shares it, with this i'm more concerned about the rom..) 3. There are other alternatives which also work perfectly and give awesome support, PiMP for example.. So, what i decided to do. What i will offer - A package for european people: Pandaminer + "OS, Monitor, Remote Management" + ROM for 3200EUR VAT incl.- I will not offer single copies of the PandamOS, reasons why are stated above. I will however sell the rom for 400$ and a single copy of the OS will be included. (writing this on multiple systems will have no point as you won't be able to use it without me activating it) - Regarding the OS, i will only offer a minimum of 25 copies. It's just not interesting for me otherwise. And as i said before, i know what will happen if i agree on single copies. - Last thing i offer is a "Fee base" system, i agree, still not interesting for small home miners. And i apologise for that. Again, it's just not interesting for me otherwise. So in other words, yes i know, what i offer is very interesting for large scale miners and not so for smaller ones. On the other hand, like i said, there are plenty of other alternatives for all you small home miners I'm always open for negotiation though. Pm me for that. If you want to have a feel on how everything works, i have set up a demo rig and a demo account. You are not able to change anything, which is kind of obvious :p. I add new features almost every day. In other words, everything you can think of, or almost everything will eventually be included. - Single rig control, single gpu control, creating groups for your rigs (ideal if you want to mine several coins), etc... Link: hereLogin: demo pass: demo Greetings! |
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Hi,
Where do I put that comman please, in the watch dog script or only one time in console mode ?
I had put the mine.sh in the start up service, so after reboot it starts again , but doing it that way I dont get to see the console anymore, is their any other way aftr reboot it restart so i can see console please
cd into the optiminer directory. Give the watchdog file permissions with chmod +x "file"... Also is their a way just to restart only 1 gpu on the miner, instead of rebooting the whole rig ?
Thanks again
Bad idea, if a gpu goes down, there's no way to "revive" it.. Reboot is the only and best option here. I get now error msg on line 16 17 and 18 about sysrq permission denied
Thanks
sudo (next time just edit your previous post.. ) |
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I cant use the watchdog on linux, I get error mesg : permission denied, any hint how to fix this please
chmod +x watchdog |
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I have my nano's running with a custom timing which also improves quite a bit. Due to the work that i have already put into all of this, i'm not going to release this for free. I will however release other things in the future Greetings! haha lulz "its not free" custom bios inst hard job Well, no one is stopping you from doing it yourself |
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This is starting to become: "who has the biggest ****".. Mine isn't, it's probably thickest  |
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Will be releasing a Demo version tomorrow!
Greetings!
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