Interest thread for Eliovp linux build for pandaminer

[slim87]

Any new status update here? Do you have already a date Eliovp when you start to sell it?

[Eliovp]

Any new status update here? Do you have already a date Eliovp when you start to sell it?

Shop is as good as done.

Monitor/management is also 99% done.

Working my but off to get this finished

[citronick]

Any new status update here? Do you have already a date Eliovp when you start to sell it?

Shop is as good as done.

Monitor/management is also 99% done.

Working my but off to get this finished

Eliovp, you may want to do some test run from Panda owners just to get iron out any bugs (if any )

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Any new status update here? Do you have already a date Eliovp when you start to sell it?

Shop is as good as done.

Monitor/management is also 99% done.

Working my but off to get this finished

Any ideas for pricing ?

[philipma1957]

Any new status update here? Do you have already a date Eliovp when you start to sell it?

Shop is as good as done.

Monitor/management is also 99% done.

Working my but off to get this finished

Any ideas for pricing ?

Let me know this also.

Oh I finally got into the bios  and set machine to boot on power up  which  means the tiny power switch is more of a mute point.

I next need to figure setting for the hdmi  as I am using the   mobo one only  and the gpu one is not active as of now.

[slim87]

hmm struggeling with ubuntu and amd drivers. As soon as the amd driver is installed on my ubunto 16.04 after a reboot I don't get any screen anymore, somebody knows how to fix that? It's the panda miner obv


@Eliovp excited to see your work

[philipma1957]

hmm struggeling with ubuntu and amd drivers. As soon as the amd driver is installed on my ubunto 16.04 after a reboot I don't get any screen anymore, somebody knows how to fix that? It's the panda miner obv


@Eliovp excited to see your work

try booting with the hdmi in the other jack.


@ Eliovp    let us know when the image is ready.


@ all  I have managed good fan reduction  and stable  zec mining  with a fan mod.  it is on the review thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733723.msg17525049#msg17525049

mod costs under 20 bucks  it lowers fans to 7.3 volts well  lowest I tested.

so far   8.6 volts rather then 7.3 volts appears stable 

this is about 36 watts vs 85 watts at 12 volts

sound is better and  the unit has mined for about 6 hours in a 90f garage.
At 7.3 volts I had dropouts
At 7.7 volts I had dropouts
At 8.1 volts I had dropouts
at 8.6 volts all good.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

nicely done

[fexploit]

when you start to sell?

[slim87]

@philipma1957 well this is not the point. In the bios the vga output is still hdmi2 like it is by default. Also I have a normal screen until I install the amd pro driver for Ubuntu 16.04, after a reboot its gone

[yun9999]

I'm going to take my name out of this interested list as the timeline and also cost is not going to make sense for the scale I'm building.  So I decided to build my own Giant Pandas.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1761303.msg17588677#msg17588677

[xxcsu]

He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(

[yun9999]

He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(

]


Not just $400 but with a minimum quantity of 10.  So I believe it's $4K as a starting point or $1K markup for a Panda with crappy warranty but I believe he's open to negotiate.  He's put some good effort into it so I hope he will be rewarded for his time as Eliovp has been great to the community.  However, I've been mining for a long time and I know how hard it is on the hardware, I'm not even sure if the Panda can finish ROI before the box dies when he's marking it up $1k with his package.  This is why I built my own and get to enjoy the long warranty the different vendors offers.  Eliovp definitely have can do some awesome stuff but the high premium in this rough ROI stream on such a risky product is a tough sell since it's Panda specific vs the MASS which is say RX480 or R9 390, etc.  Simplemining.net with it's current free package as well as all the big mining software in a Plug and play solution seems like a big winner to me.  We still need to find good ways to support innovators like ELIOVP and others who are taking up their valuable times to come up with great ideas for the mining community.  However, it needs to be affordable so that the mass can enjoy the benefit not just the super wealthy FAT Whale miners.  This is why I love Simplemining.net owner as his product is great but he have said even when it's ready for PRIME time, the max it will be is a few bucks per rig.  To be honest, even with some features missing, his OS is DAMN GOOD and 10x better than Windows crap with the corrupt drivers, 0 hash issues or constant windows updates.    My R9 Furies are killling it on Optimer and stable as a ROCK!  I can't say the same with Windows.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

No guys, look at eliovp thread, it's not 400$ per pandaminer for the mod.

He sell 2 images of the OS, one with the mod for 400$+panda licence 30$, one without the mod for just the cost of licence 30$, if you get the image, you can use it on an unlimited amount of pandaminers, you just have to pay the licence for the OS for each pandaminer. So it cost you in all :

400$ one time for bios mod
n x 30$ for the licence (n = number of pandaminers)

cheers.

[citronick]

No guys, look at eliovp thread, it's not 400$ per pandaminer for the mod.

He sell 2 images of the OS, one with the mod for 400$+panda licence 30$, one without the mod for just the cost of licence 30$, if you get the image, you can use it on an unlimited amount of pandaminers, you just have to pay the licence for the OS for each pandaminer. So it cost you in all :

400$ one time for bios mod
n x 30$ for the licence (n = number of pandaminers)

cheers.

anyone has the link for eliovp-OS thread?


never mind -- found it

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1757132.msg17545023#msg17545023

[philipma1957]

No guys, look at eliovp thread, it's not 400$ per pandaminer for the mod.

He sell 2 images of the OS, one with the mod for 400$+panda licence 30$, one without the mod for just the cost of licence 30$, if you get the image, you can use it on an unlimited amount of pandaminers, you just have to pay the licence for the OS for each pandaminer. So it cost you in all :

400$ one time for bios mod
n x 30$ for the licence (n = number of pandaminers)

cheers.

yeah I could get his os for 30.

then add the rom when I have multiple  pandaminers

I figure the rom earns 34 usd per pandaminer each month if you have 10 cent power and miner xmr.

so 3 pandas = 100 a month cost 490 this means 5 months and you made up the coins.



Link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1757132.0

[Eliovp]

He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(

]


Not just $400 but with a minimum quantity of 10.  So I believe it's $4K as a starting point or $1K markup for a Panda with crappy warranty but I believe he's open to negotiate.  He's put some good effort into it so I hope he will be rewarded for his time as Eliovp has been great to the community.  However, I've been mining for a long time and I know how hard it is on the hardware, I'm not even sure if the Panda can finish ROI before the box dies when he's marking it up $1k with his package.  This is why I built my own and get to enjoy the long warranty the different vendors offers.  Eliovp definitely have can do some awesome stuff but the high premium in this rough ROI stream on such a risky product is a tough sell since it's Panda specific vs the MASS which is say RX480 or R9 390, etc.  Simplemining.net with it's current free package as well as all the big mining software in a Plug and play solution seems like a big winner to me.  We still need to find good ways to support innovators like ELIOVP and others who are taking up their valuable times to come up with great ideas for the mining community.  However, it needs to be affordable so that the mass can enjoy the benefit not just the super wealthy FAT Whale miners.  This is why I love Simplemining.net owner as his product is great but he have said even when it's ready for PRIME time, the max it will be is a few bucks per rig.  To be honest, even with some features missing, his OS is DAMN GOOD and 10x better than Windows crap with the corrupt drivers, 0 hash issues or constant windows updates.    My R9 Furies are killling it on Optimer and stable as a ROCK!  I can't say the same with Windows.

As others have pointed out, it's not 400$ x every pandaminer. It's a one time buy. so one time 400, which is super interesting if you have multiple units.

In case of it "being hard for the hardware", that's the funny part, i clocked them down, so they're basically modded to last longer..

+ i also mentioned that there are alternatives. (in case of OS).

You don't have to get mine, i don't mind

If the owner of simplemining wants to do all of that for free, that's his decission, i'm not going to.

The main thing is the rom, the rom will help you ROI a lot faster, even with the extra cost. Ask Philipma, he did the calculations..

Greetings

[citronick]

He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(

]


Not just $400 but with a minimum quantity of 10.  So I believe it's $4K as a starting point or $1K markup for a Panda with crappy warranty but I believe he's open to negotiate.  He's put some good effort into it so I hope he will be rewarded for his time as Eliovp has been great to the community.  However, I've been mining for a long time and I know how hard it is on the hardware, I'm not even sure if the Panda can finish ROI before the box dies when he's marking it up $1k with his package.  This is why I built my own and get to enjoy the long warranty the different vendors offers.  Eliovp definitely have can do some awesome stuff but the high premium in this rough ROI stream on such a risky product is a tough sell since it's Panda specific vs the MASS which is say RX480 or R9 390, etc.  Simplemining.net with it's current free package as well as all the big mining software in a Plug and play solution seems like a big winner to me.  We still need to find good ways to support innovators like ELIOVP and others who are taking up their valuable times to come up with great ideas for the mining community.  However, it needs to be affordable so that the mass can enjoy the benefit not just the super wealthy FAT Whale miners.  This is why I love Simplemining.net owner as his product is great but he have said even when it's ready for PRIME time, the max it will be is a few bucks per rig.  To be honest, even with some features missing, his OS is DAMN GOOD and 10x better than Windows crap with the corrupt drivers, 0 hash issues or constant windows updates.    My R9 Furies are killling it on Optimer and stable as a ROCK!  I can't say the same with Windows.

As others have pointed out, it's not 400$ x every pandaminer. It's a one time buy. so one time 400, which is super interesting if you have multiple units.

In case of it "being hard for the hardware", that's the funny part, i clocked them down, so they're basically modded to last longer..

+ i also mentioned that there are alternatives. (in case of OS).

You don't have to get mine, i don't mind

If the owner of simplemining wants to do all of that for free, that's his decission, i'm not going to.

The main thing is the rom, the rom will help you ROI a lot faster, even with the extra cost. Ask Philipma, he did the calculations..

Greetings

Ah... I see... that makes sense.... otherwise Eliovp will be a millionaire like Claymore 

Eliovp.... Check PM

[Eliovp]

He is selling this mod for 400$ ...
I'm going to take my name out of this interested list also ... :-(

]


Not just $400 but with a minimum quantity of 10.  So I believe it's $4K as a starting point or $1K markup for a Panda with crappy warranty but I believe he's open to negotiate.  He's put some good effort into it so I hope he will be rewarded for his time as Eliovp has been great to the community.  However, I've been mining for a long time and I know how hard it is on the hardware, I'm not even sure if the Panda can finish ROI before the box dies when he's marking it up $1k with his package.  This is why I built my own and get to enjoy the long warranty the different vendors offers.  Eliovp definitely have can do some awesome stuff but the high premium in this rough ROI stream on such a risky product is a tough sell since it's Panda specific vs the MASS which is say RX480 or R9 390, etc.  Simplemining.net with it's current free package as well as all the big mining software in a Plug and play solution seems like a big winner to me.  We still need to find good ways to support innovators like ELIOVP and others who are taking up their valuable times to come up with great ideas for the mining community.  However, it needs to be affordable so that the mass can enjoy the benefit not just the super wealthy FAT Whale miners.  This is why I love Simplemining.net owner as his product is great but he have said even when it's ready for PRIME time, the max it will be is a few bucks per rig.  To be honest, even with some features missing, his OS is DAMN GOOD and 10x better than Windows crap with the corrupt drivers, 0 hash issues or constant windows updates.    My R9 Furies are killling it on Optimer and stable as a ROCK!  I can't say the same with Windows.

As others have pointed out, it's not 400$ x every pandaminer. It's a one time buy. so one time 400, which is super interesting if you have multiple units.

In case of it "being hard for the hardware", that's the funny part, i clocked them down, so they're basically modded to last longer..

+ i also mentioned that there are alternatives. (in case of OS).

You don't have to get mine, i don't mind

If the owner of simplemining wants to do all of that for free, that's his decission, i'm not going to.

The main thing is the rom, the rom will help you ROI a lot faster, even with the extra cost. Ask Philipma, he did the calculations..

Greetings

Ah... I see... that makes sense.... otherwise Eliovp will be a millionaire like Claymore 

Eliovp.... Check PM

Already Replied, I'm saving for a Maserati.. long way to go Haha 

[yun9999]

Pricing model may have changed or my interpretation is poor.   Heliox = ELIOVP.  From the Ethereum thread, it says you need to purchase a minimum of 10 OS copies.  The ROM plus 1 OS copy is $400 which is $4K.  "(writing this on multiple systems will have no point as you won't be able to use it without me activating it)".  I read that as you can't really just buy the ROM for $400 and be able to use it on multiple Pandas.  If you can purchase the ROM only then that's not a bad deal if you're planning on a few Pandas. @Eliovp - please don't take it the wrong way, as I've said before, you have a great product and I hope you get compensated for your time.  It's just a shame that such a great product is tied to just Pandas when it really can be used for many other AMD GPUs platforms. 

All large farm's biggest pain point is the RMA process and doing that with China makes it 100x worst.  Long shipping time, high cost of shipping and lost mining revenue is not great for ROI.  The larger your farm the higher count of items that will need RMAs.  My partners still have S9 boards that took almost 2 month to replace.  The lost of mining revenue during lower difficult on that is substantial.  We only had to put up with that with Bitmain because they're the only game in town for Bitcoin mining.  It's definitely not the same for GPU mining.  You've made it very clear that your solution is targeting large farms, but I think most large farms will not be investing that heavily into Pandas with such a weak warranty and slow / expensive China replacement process.  You're the King of ROMs and now that you have a sexy management interface, would be nice to see your offering on other platforms.  I know you mentioned that you're not interested in doing that yet, but hopefully it's something planned for down the road. 



Heliox Posts: 603Member, Moderator mod
January 21 edited January 21
Ok, i will most probably disappoint a few people with my decision but i have a few reasons why i decided to go this route.

1. I have no time to support multiple people with questions remarks, etc..
2. I've spent a large amount of time on this, so basically risking it all by selling single copies is not something i want to do.
  (in other words, if i sell one copy for example, it'll take a week before someone shares it, with this i'm more concerned about the rom..)
3. There are other alternatives which also work perfectly and give awesome support, PiMP for example..


So, what i decided to do.

What i will offer

- A package for european people: Pandaminer + "OS, Monitor, Remote Management" + ROM for 3200EUR VAT incl.
- I will not offer single copies of the PandamOS, reasons why are stated above. I will however sell the rom for 400$ and a single copy of the OS will be included. (writing this on multiple systems will have no point as you won't be able to use it without me activating it)
- Regarding the OS, i will only offer a minimum of 10 copies. It's just not interesting for me otherwise. And as i said before, i know what will happen if i agree on single copies.
- Last thing i offer is a "Fee base" system, i agree, still not interesting for small home miners. And i apologise for that.
Again, it's just not interesting for me otherwise.

So in other words, yes i know, what i offer is very interesting for large scale miners and not so for smaller ones.

On the other hand, like i said, there are plenty of other alternatives for all you small home miners

I'm always open for negotiation though. Pm me for that.