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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [2000+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 04, 2017, 02:04:17 AM
What's the difference between this and ICONOMI? Aren't they both platforms to help ease investments?

TaaS is a closed-end fund managed by the TaaS team and audited by their cryptographic audit technology. Iconomi has an open fund- ICNX- and a closed fund- ICNP- both managed by the Iconomi team and audited using conventional means, and Iconomi is also building a digital asset management platform (DAMP) where anybody (if their local law allows it) can create and manage their own funds. At least that's my general understanding of both.
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 04, 2017, 01:29:05 AM
I'm not even questioning the integrity of the skycoin dev, I just wanted an explanation for his support of qtum and some answers to some basic questions. Just look at how rude and imposing and accusatory my questions are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380441.msg18435627#msg18435627  Roll Eyes Idk how I could have been any more cordial or less assuming in my phrasing.

But okay, if my questions/concerns aren't good enough for this project then neither is my money. Later and good luck.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 04, 2017, 01:00:09 AM
Did i say you no, watch the language buddy..  you know the deal  ... what is the point going on about qtum 24 hours a day, and drowning out the real question from people...

I'm a person and my questions are real, and quite simple too. So in fact you are the one downing out my question. And I got rid of my swear words, sorry. And 24 hr a day? I originally made 2 posts asking questions to skycoin, but yeah now it does kind of look like I am going on about qtum but that's only because I'm having to repeat and justify my questions... If my questions had just been answered instead of being buried I wouldn't be here having to repeat myself.

224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 04, 2017, 12:58:57 AM


you need grow up. Zimbeck said Dai is the only good guy in that project earlier, please check Zimbeck's thread. also what zimbeck bring to that shit project? a better GUI wallet. Also Zimbeck do not even know how to release a real coin and he claimed himself as the best developer, that's ridiculous!

another reason is zimbeck worked with some bad guys want to blackmail Qtum team some money, and they say no.   Smiley

This is the last stuff David said about Dai so don't come in here with that bull:



Thanks, yeah I want to expand the team but good coders are extremely expensive and hard to train and find. I need someone who is so good they can refactor this 50,000 line monster. Preferably into a web version also.

At the current rate, I've calculated that its faster for me to do everything myself. If I somehow magically get millions of dollars then I would certainly consider taking on coders also because the investors would have a guarantee if something happens to me.

There was an ICO, I wasn't in control of the finances, a lot of lies were told to me. There was 4 founders, Steven Dai, BTER, Bobsurplus and Gekko. I was just the dev but they cut me in as a partner. I told them they had to supply me with devs to make it successful. Instead, they all vanished after the fundraiser and didn't do a single minute of work. (other than trying to bully everyone for more funds). Then they tried to trash my name.

So you know, I just took over the project with the small amounts of Bitcoin I did make and have been living off that for two years. Things are a bit tight, but i manage. I'm a very stubborn bastard and really refuse to see investors lose. I'm happy to see the price is now ABOVE the ICO. If I had left like the others, it would have been in the dust.

The rolling peg might be of particular interest to you.

And bentach, I'm going to discuss with core the best way to update the OP. You are right we should also have our news articles on there. I'm just one person. So its hard to manage all this and code.

Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.

Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware.
Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours.  I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China.  And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag.  It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick.

Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is.  At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks.

Well when he screwed us at BitBay he was in on it with Lin from BTER who used phantom BTC to fund it and Bobsurplus and Gekko. And what I'm saying is true, its all over Bitcointalk it was famous. I dealt with him first hand and he said he would stay and he didn't and kept the funds he got. Luckily he is out of BitBay now but watch your ass.

And any project that sells all that in 90 minutes is paying themselves. I've seen this with my own eyes man on the project that I have now taken over.

Do you seriously think rich people don't work together to steal from people?? There is no oversight the devs have into Patrick, at best they will have a multisig assuming the exchanges don't refund Patrick first.

How do you think they got rich in the first place?

By lying.

And just so you know, as long as Dais partners are secretive about their refunds it can go 10+ years unnoticed. Look at Enron... that company didn't even exist and was making billions for untold amounts of years. And how long did Bernie Madoff make money off people?? Maybe you haven't been paying attention. But I'm not going to fight any investors here, I've already said I will stay out of it. You have all been clearly told what goes on. If you want to gamble nobody is stopping you. Dai can shit gold bricks but that won't change what he is.

This is what I've been giving my life to fight. To prevent deception using double deposit escrow. Sadly the only way to stop guys like Dai is with a barbed club.

Unless there is another David Zimbeck account I don't know about where he directly contradicts himself on this account? In which case I'd be happy to be enlightened. Please, link me to the post you speak of I cannot find it. Otherwise you just demonstrated you are a liar.

And what are you talking about David not being a real dev? Is he not the sole dev that accomplished everything BitBay became over the last 2 years? According to his post above, after Dai and the other BitBay founders abandoned the project and ran off with the funds he was the only one left to work on it.

So again, this relates to one of my original questions to skycoin (after skycoin said: "they (qtum) have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far.")
which is: what previous two coins are you talking about that qtum/Dai worked on? Simple question, isn't it? Almost as simple as the questions being asked of qtum to share proof of the funds they claim to have collected.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 04, 2017, 12:38:13 AM
mmmm The same people on the qtum page calling it a scam has migrated here now attacking this thread..   with allegations and speculation on just  a "witch hunt",  

It does not matter Just burn the witch..

If you do not like the project well just go! I have bought the ICO, you have not move along and go buy Ripple..  

Personally I am going to use skynet everyday and want too see it built..

The heck are you talking about, I'm not accusing skycoin of anything. I've been following this project for years waiting for the ICO and when skycoin made the post praising qtum, yeah, it concerned me because I (and many, many others) do strongly believe qtum is a scam. All I'm doing is asking skycoin some pretty basic questions, why would you need to get so defensive about that?

I come in here after seeing the ICO is live on icocountdown to check on the state of things before putting my money in and the first thing I see is "qtum". Yeah excuse me for now wanting a bit of an explanation as to why skycoin supports a project many consider shady af before I invest my hard earned money here.
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 04, 2017, 12:34:19 AM
Interested, but after watching the Youtube clip of the guy on Coin Interview... I am quite concerned about this.  Doesn't appear knowledgable, but worse than that, he seems quite shifty.  Can't answer basic questions about his service which is now, I suppose technically, valuated at about $2Mil.  Something's wrong here.

EDIT:  Seriously - check out this interview and then tell me that you're comfortable sending any money or crypto to this guy.  He's a co-founder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cSK1d-7Irc

EDIT 2: I am getting a bad vibe from these guys, all around.  Good luck investors.  I am out.

EDIT 3: In that interview, I noticed that Dimitri Chupryna really struggled answering any technical questions.  I'll point out that his title, according to the Whitepaper, and the fund's website is as follows: Co-founder, Technology & Analytics.  

It doesn't seem like Evan is convinced at all in that interview, he seems extremely skeptical. Not to mention he has to correct Dimitri multiple times during the interview, correct him on things you would hope he is an expert on considering his position in TaaS and the supposed expertise you would hope would go along with such a position. Evan appears to know more than he does... Dimitri didn't even know what a fiduciary was and people are okay with trusting him with millions? Lol.

Also a lot of "maybe's", "I think so's", "should be's", "in the future's", etc coming from Dimitri.

And yeah, his body language is shifty as fuck.

Yeah, this just reeks.  I hope nobody gets screwed out of their hard-earned funds.  I've been involved in enough Security-scams to be have a pretty good spidey-sense and it is definitely going off here.

I don't really think you can nail him with that performance, some people are very nervous on camera especially if you are doing it for the first time
He doesn't look nervous per se but okay fair, that still wouldn't explain why he doesn't answer the questions correctly/doesn't know certain things he should know. Evan is clearly not impressed with his answers or knowledge of the subjects in that interview. One would hope it would come off as Evan interviewing somebody with an expertise in what they are doing or at least somebody more knowledgeable than himself but it comes off as the opposite. Isn't Dimitri supposed to be their lead/expert of technology and analytics?

And I really wish somebody would respond to my post about what seem to be inconsistencies in their proclaimed experience on their website and what they actually have done according to their work history on their linkedins. I just feel like these guys are trying to sell themselves a little more than they can reasonably attest to, which I guess makes sense considering they are trying to raise 101 million USD which would be the largest ICO in history.

Call me crazy but if you want to hold the largest ICO in history I feel like there should be some pretty damn good/distinguished/recognized experts leading the project or something that can justify that level of trust and confidence from investors.

Hi dear.
it is really nice to see that you've researched about TaaS very deeply and pointed out those points and weakness above.. I am really not able to answer them because I don't belong to technical department. but I've sent your questions to all founders and asked them to must answer them because these questions are really important and must be answered. I hope someone from core team will come online and give you a detailed answer. and you can join telegram and talk to them live and ask any question you have in mind.

thank you so much for your time.



Okay so TaaS has been pretty active in here since this but still no response, kind of discouraging tbh.
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 04, 2017, 12:31:05 AM
I am all in on qtum page devs or team members can you plz share the BTC add on which you have collected or store all the fund .....

No they refuse to even respond to requests for the basic transparency they promised before the ICO. They refuse to prove they hold the funds they claim to have raised. At this point you are better off talking to a wall.
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 04, 2017, 12:21:29 AM
Great so the qtum shills BTCspace and cybterpunk are following me here to bury my questions. Would appreciate an answer from skycoin.
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 03, 2017, 08:03:14 AM
It is too bad I wasn't already wealthy in bitcoin so I could be wealthy in byteball, too.

I understand why the distribution needed to be done this way, but byteball doesn't much appeal to me (like all coins that distribute proportionally to prior wealth) because the same exact people who control the majority of wealth in bitcoin get to control the majority of wealth in byteball, without taking on any additional risk (there's no risk at all since there's no investment through mining or otherwise, so obviously risk is not proportional/does not scale at all). In other distribution models of course the wealthier you are to begin with the more you can get by investing more, but you also take on more risk proportional to how much you invest. Here the rich just get richer.

Not to mention all the projects with huge sums of bitcoin from ICOs that get huge amounts of byteball wealth off the backs of their investors. And the exchanges that get huge amounts of byteball wealth off the backs of their users.

So while the tech here appears to be groundbreaking the economics are more than a bit discouraging.
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 03, 2017, 04:52:43 AM

- https://qtum.org

Qtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far.


I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM.....

I have not looked at qtum's code.

We know the qtum founder and he is one of the largest investors in Skycoin from four years ago, before qtum or any of this. Some of the people around him are legendary scammers, but he is not a scammer.

I think Patricks role in the bitbay situation is exaggerated. I read through the arguments and it just sounds like drama.

Many of the people in the Bitcoin community are sociopaths. They often steal things or cause drama, then immediately blame it or scapegoat it on someone else. They are not even done stealing the money, before they go on campaign of moral indignation against the fall person.

I think Patrick was blamed for Bitbay because his personality makes him an easy victim for sociopaths and the human predators in the bitcoin community. There are people walking around, sizing people up and trying to determine whether they can manipulate someone, setup a scam, steal things and who is going to be gullible or a fall person.

If you knew the people involved, you would understand what the social dynamic is.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin.

All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing.

We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model.

I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way
- thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system)
- moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone)

I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later.

I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction.

Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer.
- we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin)
- then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum)
- now we just trying to figure out how to build  pure computer on UXTO
- Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer"

Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense.

Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes.

Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing.

Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols.

One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model.

Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language.

It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction.

Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now.

Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially.

Thank you I appreciate the response although I do not agree with your assessment of Dai or the BitBay situation and would argue the available evidence points towards Dai being the scammer, although I have to admit I do not know him or other parties involved personally. And I assume this means you believe David Zimbeck to be a liar and potentially the scammer in this situation? Doesn't it seem odd then that David was the one to continue working on BitBay after Dai left and funds disappeared?

I'm also still curious which two previous coins of Dai's/Qtum's you are referring too? Surely BitBay cannot be attributed to Dai no matter what your take on the BitBay situation is, he has not worked on the project for two years during which time the majority of the developement appears to have taken place.

And what is your take on Qtum's refusal to provide tx ids or addresses to prove ownership of the funds they claim to have raised during the ICO (~10 million in first 90 minutes, ~15 million total) and to allow investors to keep an eye on those funds themselves? This is a pretty standard thing to do, and given the added scrutiny and skepticism surrounding the project and the amount of money involved doesn't it seem odd they won't even respond to requests for this information?

Thanks for your time. And I am really interested in this project (and have been for some time) so I do appreciate these responses as this stuff with qtum is the first thing to make me have any doubts here and question investing.
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 03, 2017, 04:11:06 AM
Interested, but after watching the Youtube clip of the guy on Coin Interview... I am quite concerned about this.  Doesn't appear knowledgable, but worse than that, he seems quite shifty.  Can't answer basic questions about his service which is now, I suppose technically, valuated at about $2Mil.  Something's wrong here.

EDIT:  Seriously - check out this interview and then tell me that you're comfortable sending any money or crypto to this guy.  He's a co-founder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cSK1d-7Irc

EDIT 2: I am getting a bad vibe from these guys, all around.  Good luck investors.  I am out.

EDIT 3: In that interview, I noticed that Dimitri Chupryna really struggled answering any technical questions.  I'll point out that his title, according to the Whitepaper, and the fund's website is as follows: Co-founder, Technology & Analytics.  

It doesn't seem like Evan is convinced at all in that interview, he seems extremely skeptical. Not to mention he has to correct Dimitri multiple times during the interview, correct him on things you would hope he is an expert on considering his position in TaaS and the supposed expertise you would hope would go along with such a position. Evan appears to know more than he does... Dimitri didn't even know what a fiduciary was and people are okay with trusting him with millions? Lol.

Also a lot of "maybe's", "I think so's", "should be's", "in the future's", etc coming from Dimitri.

And yeah, his body language is shifty as fuck.

Yeah, this just reeks.  I hope nobody gets screwed out of their hard-earned funds.  I've been involved in enough Security-scams to be have a pretty good spidey-sense and it is definitely going off here.

I don't really think you can nail him with that performance, some people are very nervous on camera especially if you are doing it for the first time
He doesn't look nervous per se but okay fair, that still wouldn't explain why he doesn't answer the questions correctly/doesn't know certain things he should know. Evan is clearly not impressed with his answers or knowledge of the subjects in that interview. One would hope it would come off as Evan interviewing somebody with an expertise in what they are doing or at least somebody more knowledgeable than himself but it comes off as the opposite. Isn't Dimitri supposed to be their lead/expert of technology and analytics?

And I really wish somebody would respond to my post about what seem to be inconsistencies in their proclaimed experience on their website and what they actually have done according to their work history on their linkedins. I just feel like these guys are trying to sell themselves a little more than they can reasonably attest to, which I guess makes sense considering they are trying to raise 101 million USD which would be the largest ICO in history.

Call me crazy but if you want to hold the largest ICO in history I feel like there should be some pretty damn good/distinguished/recognized experts leading the project or something that can justify that level of trust and confidence from investors.

Hi dear.
it is really nice to see that you've researched about TaaS very deeply and pointed out those points and weakness above.. I am really not able to answer them because I don't belong to technical department. but I've sent your questions to all founders and asked them to must answer them because these questions are really important and must be answered. I hope someone from core team will come online and give you a detailed answer. and you can join telegram and talk to them live and ask any question you have in mind.

thank you so much for your time.



Thanks I look forward to a response from the team.
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 03, 2017, 04:10:23 AM
why are americans specifically excluded from the ICO?

I asked that to Dimitri Chupryna in the telegram group and this is his answer verbatim:

"We are incorporated in Singapore and  follow the regulations and laws of Singapore. ICO activity might fall under other regulations in USA as well as many cryptocurrency activities are not defined.
so combination of facts excludes current possibility for USA citizens to participate in Initial coin offering to avoid possible legal incongruities. It is TaaS management decision that is based on our Legal team recommendations."

So TaaS is not KYC and AML certified I'm guessing?
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 02, 2017, 11:50:27 AM
Interested, but after watching the Youtube clip of the guy on Coin Interview... I am quite concerned about this.  Doesn't appear knowledgable, but worse than that, he seems quite shifty.  Can't answer basic questions about his service which is now, I suppose technically, valuated at about $2Mil.  Something's wrong here.

EDIT:  Seriously - check out this interview and then tell me that you're comfortable sending any money or crypto to this guy.  He's a co-founder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cSK1d-7Irc

EDIT 2: I am getting a bad vibe from these guys, all around.  Good luck investors.  I am out.

EDIT 3: In that interview, I noticed that Dimitri Chupryna really struggled answering any technical questions.  I'll point out that his title, according to the Whitepaper, and the fund's website is as follows: Co-founder, Technology & Analytics.  

It doesn't seem like Evan is convinced at all in that interview, he seems extremely skeptical. Not to mention he has to correct Dimitri multiple times during the interview, correct him on things you would hope he is an expert on considering his position in TaaS and the supposed expertise you would hope would go along with such a position. Evan appears to know more than he does... Dimitri didn't even know what a fiduciary was and people are okay with trusting him with millions? Lol.

Also a lot of "maybe's", "I think so's", "should be's", "in the future's", etc coming from Dimitri.

And yeah, his body language is shifty as fuck.

Yeah, this just reeks.  I hope nobody gets screwed out of their hard-earned funds.  I've been involved in enough Security-scams to be have a pretty good spidey-sense and it is definitely going off here.

I don't really think you can nail him with that performance, some people are very nervous on camera especially if you are doing it for the first time
He doesn't look nervous per se but okay fair, that still wouldn't explain why he doesn't answer the questions correctly/doesn't know certain things he should know. Evan is clearly not impressed with his answers or knowledge of the subjects in that interview. One would hope it would come off as Evan interviewing somebody with an expertise in what they are doing or at least somebody more knowledgeable than himself but it comes off as the opposite. Isn't Dimitri supposed to be their lead/expert of technology and analytics?

And I really wish somebody would respond to my post about what seem to be inconsistencies in their proclaimed experience on their website and what they actually have done according to their work history on their linkedins. I just feel like these guys are trying to sell themselves a little more than they can reasonably attest to, which I guess makes sense considering they are trying to raise 101 million USD which would be the largest ICO in history.

Call me crazy but if you want to hold the largest ICO in history I feel like there should be some pretty damn good/distinguished/recognized experts leading the project or something that can justify that level of trust and confidence from investors.
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 02, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
Interested, but after watching the Youtube clip of the guy on Coin Interview... I am quite concerned about this.  Doesn't appear knowledgable, but worse than that, he seems quite shifty.  Can't answer basic questions about his service which is now, I suppose technically, valuated at about $2Mil.  Something's wrong here.

EDIT:  Seriously - check out this interview and then tell me that you're comfortable sending any money or crypto to this guy.  He's a co-founder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cSK1d-7Irc

EDIT 2: I am getting a bad vibe from these guys, all around.  Good luck investors.  I am out.

EDIT 3: In that interview, I noticed that Dimitri Chupryna really struggled answering any technical questions.  I'll point out that his title, according to the Whitepaper, and the fund's website is as follows: Co-founder, Technology & Analytics.  

It doesn't seem like Evan is convinced at all in that interview, he seems extremely skeptical. Not to mention he has to correct Dimitri multiple times during the interview, correct him on things you would hope he is an expert on considering his position in TaaS and the supposed expertise you would hope would go along with such a position. Evan appears to know more than he does... Dimitri didn't even know what a fiduciary was and people are okay with trusting him with millions? Lol.

Also a lot of "maybe's", "I think so's", "should be's", "in the future's", etc coming from Dimitri.

And yeah, his body language is shifty as fuck.

Yeah, this just reeks.  I hope nobody gets screwed out of their hard-earned funds.  I've been involved in enough Security-scams to be have a pretty good spidey-sense and it is definitely going off here.

The same things were saying after Arks's interview. Everyone were insulting them and they didn't get the minimum cap because of that. I trusted them and I get x3 just right after the ICO launch and the price is stable.
This guy is young, the project is at its beginning, so he can't know everything but still trust him

That's a good point. I personally didn't get the same impression from the Ark interview though (I invested in Ark too). We'll see. I've voiced my opinion and I'll stop there, although if you get the chance look into my other post about apparent inconsistencies in their proclaimed work experience and let me know what you think (you can PM if you'd rather not bump my post).
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: $BTA | BATA | Barter via Blockchain. New POW / POS Hybrid in development. on: April 02, 2017, 07:11:20 AM
Interested in this project. Seems severely undervalued. Posting to follow.
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 02, 2017, 05:49:42 AM
two other sources, build up your own opinion.  For me it seems like that the team is legit but in some occasions not very knowledgeable according to what i have watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVo9H-71xM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gunjqz7CvDA
watch from 7:20min to 7:27min   you gonna laugh Cheesy

Lol.

Title: How it works.
Quote: "Not to go into technical details..."

237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 02, 2017, 05:02:07 AM
All directly from the website https://taas.fund/ executive team part or the provided linkedins



Dimitri Chupryna, Technology and Analytics:  "Prior to founding TaaS, Chupryna, and was involved in the development of numerous startups in Silicon Valley"

What numerous start-ups?

The linkedin provided only appears to have one start up (Spray Networks INC) and not much concrete/reputable past work experience outside of that: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dchupryna/


Maksym Muratov, Co-founder, Technology & Trading: "Prior to launching TaaS, Muratov managed private assets in Argentina. Muratov holds a Film Studies degree"

Their tech and trading lead has a few years experience in independent and private trading (if I can count my years of trading crypto and stocks independently then I could claim to have more years of experience than this), 5 months experience as lead trader at the same company that Konstantin and Ruslan cofounded, and doesn't have an education related to either tech or trading.



Konstantin Pysarenko, Co-founder, Vice-President: "Pysarenko founded several startups around the world in food manufacturing, geological oil and gas surveying, and international aviation sales."

Ruslan Gavrilyuk, Co-founder, President: "Gavrilyuk has more than 14 years’ experience in founding and managing projects in geoscience, mobile money solutions, oil and gas operations, precious minerals mining, sports and fashion."

From their linkedins they both only list the same two previous projects below of which they were both co-founders https://www.linkedin.com/in/konstantin-pysarenko-b1a40b51/ , https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruslan-gavrilyuk/ :


Co-Founder
Company Name Geo-Earth Resources Ltd., GERONE

Dates Employed Mar 2011 – Present

Employment Duration 6 yrs 2 mos


Co-Founder
Company Name Bitup Analytical Group

Dates Employed Oct 2016 – Jan 2017 (also what does it mean to have an end date to being a co-founder and to be a co-founder for only 4 months?)

Employment Duration 4 mos


No mention of food manufacturing start ups, international aviation sales, mobile money solutions, work in sports and fashion, etc.

And I am having troubling finding any additional information about Geo-Earth Resources Ltd. (in Gerone). Anybody else have any luck? TaaS can you link me to more info about this past company? Thanks!


Also how can one have 500+ connections and supposedly years of past experience at numerous startups or companies across multiple industries but only a handful of endorsements? And if you look at who made those endorsements the majority of them were made by other members of the TaaS team... no joke.

238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [1800+ BTC RAISED] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 02, 2017, 04:35:40 AM
Interested, but after watching the Youtube clip of the guy on Coin Interview... I am quite concerned about this.  Doesn't appear knowledgable, but worse than that, he seems quite shifty.  Can't answer basic questions about his service which is now, I suppose technically, valuated at about $2Mil.  Something's wrong here.

EDIT:  Seriously - check out this interview and then tell me that you're comfortable sending any money or crypto to this guy.  He's a co-founder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cSK1d-7Irc

EDIT 2: I am getting a bad vibe from these guys, all around.  Good luck investors.  I am out.

EDIT 3: In that interview, I noticed that Dimitri Chupryna really struggled answering any technical questions.  I'll point out that his title, according to the Whitepaper, and the fund's website is as follows: Co-founder, Technology & Analytics.  

It doesn't seem like Evan is convinced at all in that interview, he seems extremely skeptical. Not to mention he has to correct Dimitri multiple times during the interview, correct him on things you would hope he is an expert on considering his position in TaaS and the supposed expertise you would hope would go along with such a position. Evan appears to know more than he does... Dimitri didn't even know what a fiduciary was and people are okay with trusting him with millions? Lol.

Also a lot of "maybe's", "I think so's", "should be's", "in the future's", etc coming from Dimitri.

And yeah, his body language is shifty as fuck.
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 02, 2017, 03:42:03 AM

- https://qtum.org

Qtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far.



I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM.....

Seriously is this a joke Skycoin? Especially this part: "they have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far."

Are you talking about the qtum cofounder Steven Dai who worked on BitBay but then ran away and stole BTC and BAY from the project? He hasn't worked on that project since scamming it and running away 2 years ago, everything BitBay is today is not because of him in fact it is in spite of him and the project clearly would have been better off without him stealing from it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890531.msg17942817#msg17942817
More details: https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

Or are you talking about the other qtum cofounder earlz who developed and then abandoned shitcoins such as Supcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950084.0 and Megcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594886.0 ?

What Devs are you talking about and what two previous coins?

Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet? It's just vaporware at this point. Just like the 15 million USD in ICO funds they claim to have raised while refusing to provide tx ids or addresses so that people can confirm that claim and keep track of the funds (something even more important than usual considering one cofounder of the project is on record for having stolen funds from a previous project he worked on).

I thought I was interested in this project but now I have some serious doubts if you are endorsing that shitshow.
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 01, 2017, 07:25:39 AM
You prefer to believe Gleb Krampus  Grin

Look at the amount of media reporting this, you cannot bribe that much people, think about it!
Stack, just put these fools on ignore-I think half this long ass thread is just you arguing with these trolls.

So you're not interested at all in why Qtum refuses to provide tx ids or addresses to prove they hold the ICO funds they claim to have collected? Even though they promised to be transparent with their investors? You don't want to know that the funds you invested are indeed safe and where they are supposed to be? This is something all other projects do, so idk how you can say there is no more risk involved in this project vs others based on that fact alone. And isn't this additional risk of the funds not being transparent only amplified further by the fact that the cofounder of this project is known to have stolen funds from a previous one? Seems like a bad combination with obvious implications.  
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