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goes Turing CompleteQora and AT team agreed to integrate a Turing complete virtual machine into Qora named Automated Transactions. In a brief preview Automated transactions allows many types of applications ranging from games of chance to automated crowdfunding and ensuring that savings will not be lost forever. But this project needs to get funded in order to be done and ATFunding is the asset that represents this crowdfunding. ATFunding asset has a quantity of 250 millions units with each unit's price equals to 1 Qora and a total net worth of 250.000.000 Qora. AT team will integrate Automated Transactions into Qora if the minimum amount of 100 millions Qora has been pledged for this purpose.The crowdfunind period has started today, 15 of October and will last for a period of two weeks.If the sold units during this period reaches the minimum quantity of 100.000.000 then Automated Transactions will be integrated into Qora. The ATFunding asset holders by funding this project they will also be able to exchange their ATFunding asset with the official asset of AT Team that they will issue if the minimum goal has been reached ( details can be found here). ATFunding asset specificationsName : ATFundingAsset Key : 61
Asset Owner : QYsLsfwMRBPnunmuWmFkM4hvGsfooY8ssU
Asset Description : This asset represents the funding of AT team for the integration of a Turing complete virtual machine into Qora.
Quantity : 250.000.000 units
Divisible : Yes
Price : 1 Qora/unit Crowdfunding has began ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pending.me.uk%2Fcd%2Fbla_1414627199.png&t=663&c=tNUZAOxo499p_w) Cross post
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goes Turing CompleteQora and AT team agreed to integrate a Turing complete virtual machine into Qora named Automated Transactions. In a brief preview Automated transactions allows many types of applications ranging from games of chance to automated crowdfunding and ensuring that savings will not be lost forever. But this project needs to get funded in order to be done and ATFunding is the asset that represents this crowdfunding. ATFunding asset has a quantity of 250 millions unit's with each unit's price equals to 1 Qora and a total net worth of 250.000.000 Qora. AT team will integrate Automated Transactions into Qora if the minimum amount of 100 millions Qora has been pledged for this purpose.The crowdfunind period has started today, 15 of October and will last for a period of two weeks.If the sold units during this period reaches the minimum quantity of 100.000.000 then Automated Transactions will be integrated into Qora. The ATFunding asset holders by funding this project they will also be able to exchange their ATFunding asset with the official asset of AT Team that they will issue if the minimum goal has been reached ( details can be found here). ATFunding asset specificationsName : ATFundingAsset Key : 61
Asset Owner : QYsLsfwMRBPnunmuWmFkM4hvGsfooY8ssU
Asset Description : This asset represents the funding of AT team for the integration of a Turing complete virtual machine into Qora.
Quantity : 250.000.000 units
Divisible : Yes
Price : 1 Qora/unit Crowdfunding has began ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pending.me.uk%2Fcd%2Fbla_1414627199.png&t=663&c=tNUZAOxo499p_w)
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Details of the AT team services asset As it has been mentioned the AT team will issue their services asset if the minimum goal of ATFUnding asset reached (100.000.000 ATFunding units to be sold during the crowdfunding period). The quantity of this asset will be 1.000.000.000 units (1 billion).The 50% of the quantity (500 millions units) will be withheld by the AT Team and the rest 50% (500 million units) will be available to public.A maximum quantity of 250 million units will be directly exchanged with the ATFUnding asset (1 ATFunding asset will be equal to 1 AT team services asset) and the rest 250 million units (or more, according to ATFunding sales) will be sold at Qora's asset exchange.Price will be 2 Qora per unit. The asset holders of the AT Team services asset will be able to benefit by the several business cases that the AT is running on Qora for the usage of the Automated Transactions. To be more specific some examples of business cases could be : AT team integrates a company into Qora for the usage of the Automated Transactions of Qora. AT team provides consulting and support to a third party who runs their Automated Transactions application on Qora. In a few words AT team services asset represents a decentralized business that will provide AT solutions for clients wanting to gain the benefits of "Turing Complete" transactions into Qora without the complexity of having to understand every detail about how AT works. It is important to clarify that the asset holders will benefit from this asset only for business cases that the AT team runs on Qora.There will not be any profit sharing or any claims from the several business cases that the AT team is running outside of Qora. AT team services assetName : Unidentified Asset Key : Unidentified Asset Owner : Unidentified Asset Description : Unidentified Quantity : 1.000.000.000 units Divisible : Yes Price : 2 Qora / Unit
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Vrontis, you should be aware that this *system* is to provide Turing completeness programs/scripts/contracts (call them as you like) to any coin that uses AT. Thus anyone will be able to create his program, so how this can be extend, I guess it depends on the programmers and their imagination. Regarding the cross-chain txs the specs are not yet fully defined, so I am not able to answer properly your questions. You will have to wait until the specs are ready.
Well, yes.. I have pushed it a little further but this cross chain trading capability of AT blew my mind
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Atomic cross chain trading according to this is where two parties owns coins in separate cryptocurrenices and they to want to exchange them without having to trust a third party (centralized exchange). Let's say I am holding some bitcoins and I want to make an anon transaction using an anon coin (cryptonote,darkcoin..whatever). Both has AT integrated into the core so AT gives me the ability to make this cross chain trading. As a user how I'm gonna find that I can purchase some anon coins and how many coins (in here I mean the price that I'm gonna purchase them)? Also, is there an escrow or something after all ? Is there an Open-Bazaar-like decentralized exchange on top of it which could provide to the users some infos about this trading and possible an escrow service (or is this planned somehow)? Also I assume that supports assets trading, right? Thanks Vrontis
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thx Vrontis and smaragda ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) OK - but which is my account? I see 10 accounts on the Account tab - just tried click the New account button and no 11 account popped in the list.. All of them are your addresses.You can have many many address. Your account actually is your wallet seed which contains numerous addresses. You can have Qora's in any of the address there.
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OK I'm new to QORA. Managed to install and open the wallet - it looks like just a basic wallet with not much UI glamour ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) is that the correct wallet? Down below, the yellow icon says Synchronizing and beside it the black lock shows Unlocked. Where can I see how far the sync is and how do I lock the wallet (must it be unlocked in order to mine?) ? My next question is: how do I mine QORAs ? The answers I forward may be in this thread - but 500 pages TL,DR.. When you get your wallet synchronized you will see the yellow turned to green and the message Oke. You can lock and unlock your wallet by clicking the locker icon. In order to forge you need to have the wallet unlocked. But here you will find instructions on how to be able to forge with the wallet locked.
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why dev have no interest in AT system, i dont understand
Have you confused this with the Nxt thread? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Qora was interested for AT from the very first moment months ago.If he wasn't interested he wouldn't agree to integrate it.
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I watched both and installed java successfully…not the wallet ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I can't help furthermore Maybe someone with Mac can help Yes, I use QORA on a Mac. Assuming that you have Java installed, just unzip the file, open the terminal, navigate to the folder, and enter "./run.sh" (do not include the quotation marks.)
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Hi, new to Qora and glad to be here!
While trying to install wallet on os x 10.8, I type "./run.sh" but I get "./run.sh: Operation not permitted" . I also tried sudo ./run.sh and nothing happens, just new command line. (JAVA 7 installed)
Any help is appreciated
Try the below chmod 777 run.sh and then type ./run.sh PS: I don't have a MAC but I assume that this is going to work. Thanks for the reply but I still get the same message. Maybe its not compatible with 10.8? Check this video also : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iok9kTFIkPIAnd make sure you have java installed ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRXjTX_vdeU )
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Hi, new to Qora and glad to be here!
While trying to install wallet on os x 10.8, I type "./run.sh" but I get "./run.sh: Operation not permitted" . I also tried sudo ./run.sh and nothing happens, just new command line. (JAVA 7 installed)
Any help is appreciated
Try the below chmod 777 run.sh and then type ./run.sh PS: I don't have a MAC but I assume that this is going to work.
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Just a short recap about AT, integration and relevant things - It looks like AT will be first integrated into Qora (in case the crowdfunding hits the minimum goal).CFB stated his personal opinion about AT that he prefers AT to be deployed in other coins first.It is also clear that AT is not an exclusivity for Qora but it might be for a short/long period of time (in case it goes live to Qora first).
This is a key point because if we face this situation (this "exclusivity") then Qora might have a chance to attract "great players" of the market on it. - Qora has been mentioned in coinssource.
- Details about AT services asset will became clear before the launch of the crowdfunding.Also the existence of this asset means that AT team will monitor AT and monetize it from several business cases that AT is used.
- CIYAM stated that a part of the funds will be used to help get the lottery created and promoted.He noted also a new use case of AT, "trustless atomic cross-chain transfer" between AT integrated coins, a true benefit for Qora as AT early adopter.
- In the next days Qora and AT team will get into more details about this.
I'm also trying to write down exactly how the lottery use case will perform and to see how AT can collaborate with existing Qora features like arbitrary transactions, asset / asset exchange, dividends.Sure there are many capabilities beyond imagination.
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They will deliver AT for Nxt (if JL or others agree) and then bring AT to other coins, too.
Are we getting it only for us OR are we getting it before any other coin OR are we getting it after other coins? CIYAM needs to answer this question AT will go on NXT testnet at 15 of October. Then it's up to NXT tech devs to decide if it goes live and when. Qora and AT team will arrange the integration if crowd funding is completed successfully and they will work on this. I cannot tell if Qora will be the first but sure it won't be the only one. Sorry if I missed it, where is he OP outlining the crowdfundinf requirements? Also, are you strictly raising funds to pay bills, or is this an asset that will pay dividends, if fully funded? Thank you! Here is the pre announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg9125859#msg9125859Details of AT team services asset will be published before the launch of crowd funding.
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They will deliver AT for Nxt (if JL or others agree) and then bring AT to other coins, too.
Are we getting it only for us OR are we getting it before any other coin OR are we getting it after other coins? CIYAM needs to answer this question AT will go on NXT testnet at 15 of October. Then it's up to NXT tech devs to decide if it goes live and when. Qora and AT team will arrange the integration if crowd funding is completed successfully and they will work on this. I cannot tell if Qora will be the first but sure it won't be the only one.
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Qora and AT team agreed to integrate a Turing complete virtual machine into Qora named Automated Transactions. In a brief preview Automated transactions allows many types of applications ranging from games of chance to automated crowdfunding and ensuring that savings will not be lost forever. But this project needs to be funded by Qora Community in order to be done. ATFunding is an asset I have issued which represents the funding purpose of this project.I will provide escrow services on this fund raising. ATFunding asset has a quantity of 250 millions assets with each asset's price equals to 1 Qora and total worth of 250.000.000 Qora. AT team will integrate Automated Transactions into Qora if the minimum amount of 100 millions Qora has been pledged for this purpose. The crowdfunind period will start at 15 of October and will last for a period of two weeks.If the sold units during this period reaches the minimum quantity of 100.000.000 assets then Automated Transactions will be integrated into Qora. The ATFunding asset holders by funding this project they will also be able to exchange their ATFunding assets with the official asset of AT Team that they will issue if the minimum goal has been reached.25% of the AT Team services asset will be exchanged with the total quantity of the ATFunding Assets, 1 ATFunding asset will be equal to 1 AT team services asset. So, actually a maximum quantity of 25% of the AT services asset, a divinded asset, will be sold into this fund raising period in a lower price,only via ATFunding asset and the integration will be achieved if 100.000.000 or more ATFunding assets sold. Specification and use cases of AT can be found here. AT Team : CIYAM vbecas btc2nxt ATFunding asset specifications : Name : ATFundingAsset Key : 61 Asset Owner : QYsLsfwMRBPnunmuWmFkM4hvGsfooY8ssU Asset Description : This asset represents the funding of AT team for the integration of a Turing complete virtual machine into Qora. Quantity : 250.000.000 units Divisible : Yes Price : 1 Qora/unit
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I am unable to find a MAC wallet. Does anyone have a link to download?
Use the last version Install Qora on Mac OS X 10.9: http://youtu.be/iok9kTFIkPI
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Just discovered this coin it seems like it would have much potential but I wonder why the code is closed. I'm nervous to buy until I know it's not a scam coin. Will Qora go open source soon?
Of course it is not a scam. Just check what Qora have been doing and you will be clear. I don't make investments based on emotions or what people say on forums, I learnt the hard way even the most convincing developer can run off or have a Premine. I want to invest heavily of this really can compete with coins like NXT but I got to know if the code is safe or not, it's a basic question. I have read roughly through the thread and I saw many say it's NXT code based. I won't risk till I know that is not true, it's common sense. Well, there are some facts that proves some things. Pre - mine : I can't actually reply clear on this... I don't know if it is possible.After all the entire coin supply was premined and distributed according to the IPO. Dev Runaway : The dev is right now active @ Qora chat.But a stronger evidence that dev didn't runaway is the IPO address which confirms that.The total invested BTC amount has not been moved. NXT Clone : So far there are not any proofs for that.We don't have a proof that is a clone but we also don't have a proof that is not a clone.Only if Qora goes open source and an auditor's review who is not involved in none of those two coins can ensure the result. Actually as you stated investing with emotional criteria is totally wrong but on the other hand which is the criteria that ensures an investment in crypto currencies... even Satoshie runaway ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Sure, there are some major understandings that they must be fulfilled before an investment in cryptocurrencies which is based according to the knowledge an investor can have. I am not trying to convinced you to buy.. but my investment advice to you is that you can place a buy order at 1 sat and if it get's filled then you might have made a good investment.
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As for the next phase of Qora development is wallet improvement I would like to point out some recommendations that I have in mind for discussing them and if possible to implement those in Qora wallet.
The first is that I would like to have loaded only addresses with balance > 0. Now with the asset exchange as well were we actually have assets as an other balance overview then by loading both empty and non empty address in wallet it gets a little mess with all those addresses listed in there. This is my opinion on that and I believe that a call of non zero addresses will be helpful plenty enough. The second is also about addresses. I believe that a label is needed as well in order to name addresses and make them more user friendly. Finally, if an HTML based wallet is going to be builded (which is more eye candy and possible more flexible for development) then I believe that api calls could have an efficient handling from wallet to retrieve data (such as the non zero addresses that I mentioned above). In this scenario then we might think other great features to have them integrated into wallet as well.
Also the wallet design is something that will boost Qora as well for mass adoption. As I said html wallets are definitely eye candy. So, if we can have some wallet designs that we could select (vote) as an official wallet release then it will be pretty helpful as well.
Other possible features into the wallet with an HTML architecture will might be block explorer, friends list, asset list, messaging, peers,polls, api etc..
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