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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 15, 2016, 10:31:22 PM
Capitulation is GOOD guys! Think about it from the market makers perspective.

Assume you are the MM, do you want me to make money?

No, because when I make money that is profit that you, the MM, didn't get and the whole purpose of being an MM is to maximize profit. Therefore, you need to manipulate the market into conditions that will fuck with the other traders mind to make them want to dump their bags and an MM can accomplish this in two ways. One way is to wait. Wait for a long time and over that course of time weaker hands will drop out. The other choice is to manipulate the market, which is what I believe we are seeing right now. However Vert is in a special spot right now because we are still hovering around the ATL. The MM knows he cant shake us out by bring the price down because most of us got in at a price that if he brought it to 1 sat then we would still hold.

So, if the MM cant bring the price lower how can he get more coins? Well what they are doing now is propping up price a little bit and trying to force you into taking a small profit as opposed to sticking in for the big run. A half ass-ed pump is the only way he can get us to capitulate out of frustration with VTC. This is why we are seeing this price action this past week IMO.

The big run feels like it is right around the corner and I hope we can all outlast this MM and celebrate at 200k  Grin

True, but consider another option too:

New money, coming from recent profits from other coins, or coming from outside crypto, is entering VTC in a hurry, by market buying large orders. The MM, who doesn't want to pump yet, is trying by all means to keep the price low, expecting people to join in other pumps and sell their VTC.

What will happen is that if this new money keeps coming, the MM will be "forced" to pump or at least stop selling, cause if not he will lose his power at actual prices, and I'm sure he doesn't want that. Grin

I'm saying this cause in the last two weeks, I've bought 114.5 BTC in VTC, and I'm seeing that MM is getting nervous, cause I'm not the only one who's buying VTC in a large way. Wink Wink

This is also very true. I didn't consider the fact that MM might be running multiple markets, and pumping other coins is another great way to try and shake out folks, especially the new money.
After researching ETH some more , they're going POS sometime soon , so that mining power is going to have to go somewhere


May I ask what yourr are insinuating? Are you expecting that mining power to move to vert?
Not necessarily all of it , but it would be nice . Used GPU's don't bring in big bucks and it hasn't been long enough for a lot of people to ROI
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 15, 2016, 04:29:14 PM
Capitulation is GOOD guys! Think about it from the market makers perspective.

Assume you are the MM, do you want me to make money?

No, because when I make money that is profit that you, the MM, didn't get and the whole purpose of being an MM is to maximize profit. Therefore, you need to manipulate the market into conditions that will fuck with the other traders mind to make them want to dump their bags and an MM can accomplish this in two ways. One way is to wait. Wait for a long time and over that course of time weaker hands will drop out. The other choice is to manipulate the market, which is what I believe we are seeing right now. However Vert is in a special spot right now because we are still hovering around the ATL. The MM knows he cant shake us out by bring the price down because most of us got in at a price that if he brought it to 1 sat then we would still hold.

So, if the MM cant bring the price lower how can he get more coins? Well what they are doing now is propping up price a little bit and trying to force you into taking a small profit as opposed to sticking in for the big run. A half ass-ed pump is the only way he can get us to capitulate out of frustration with VTC. This is why we are seeing this price action this past week IMO.

The big run feels like it is right around the corner and I hope we can all outlast this MM and celebrate at 200k  Grin

True, but consider another option too:

New money, coming from recent profits from other coins, or coming from outside crypto, is entering VTC in a hurry, by market buying large orders. The MM, who doesn't want to pump yet, is trying by all means to keep the price low, expecting people to join in other pumps and sell their VTC.

What will happen is that if this new money keeps coming, the MM will be "forced" to pump or at least stop selling, cause if not he will lose his power at actual prices, and I'm sure he doesn't want that. Grin

I'm saying this cause in the last two weeks, I've bought 114.5 BTC in VTC, and I'm seeing that MM is getting nervous, cause I'm not the only one who's buying VTC in a large way. Wink Wink

This is also very true. I didn't consider the fact that MM might be running multiple markets, and pumping other coins is another great way to try and shake out folks, especially the new money.
After researching ETH some more , they're going POS sometime soon , so that mining power is going to have to go somewhere
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 15, 2016, 01:14:37 AM
There are no, and will never be any ETH asic.
Why never? If a coin is popular enough they'll make an asic for it . I'm not saying it's good for the coin . Look at litecoin , it was super popular until asics hit .Vertcoin had asics when it was scrypt n ...well for a couple weeks until we forked.  Grin
There'll be no asics because ETH is going proof of stake in approx six months. So no time. Anyway, the eth founders have said that if one is developed they will tweak the algorithim. So zero chance of ETH asics appearing, I'm afraid.
If I'm not mistaken they are going to do some POS POW hybrid system
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 14, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
There are no, and will never be any ETH asic.
Why never? If a coin is popular enough they'll make an asic for it . I'm not saying it's good for the coin . Look at litecoin , it was super popular until asics hit .Vertcoin had asics when it was scrypt n ...well for a couple weeks until we forked.  Grin
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 14, 2016, 12:27:37 PM
what's going on with VTC?  Is there any news or is this just another random pump thanks to polotrololo?   Does VTC even have an active dev at this point?  
Several active devs . Wallet is being updated

and still ASIC resistant Wink

Can someone explain why ASIC Resistance is so important? I get the concept but why all of a sudden is this significant.

The idea is that you don't need a lot of money to mine . Anyone who has a gpu  can mine ( which is any gamer , or most people with a computer ) Asic's are specialized computer with one purpose ( to mine a specific algo) , they are expensive and can only be used for that purpose. Only a few companies make asics , so coins that use asics are at the mercy of said companies to make asics and better asics every so often .The main problem is that some, if not all asic companies build asics and use them until they pay for them selves and then sell them to the consumer when it's very hard to make ROI on them .
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 13, 2016, 06:22:26 PM
what's going on with VTC?  Is there any news or is this just another random pump thanks to polotrololo?   Does VTC even have an active dev at this point?  
Several active devs . Wallet is being updated
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 08, 2016, 11:58:53 PM
there any news about the team devs?  Roll Eyes
Yes , I recruited a couple people .
Hey, what happened to James? Is he coming back?
Nothing happened to James
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: September 07, 2016, 10:53:01 PM
there any news about the team devs?  Roll Eyes
Yes , I recruited a couple people .
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 23, 2016, 10:27:36 PM
Small update:



I might look into helping out with the wallet upgrade, but I will be mainly focusing on making my own coin. It will have features that some of you may find very useful.
Unfortunately my idea will require a major overhaul of the core codes and I think it would be best if I fork Vertcoin with the new features added in.
The features I want to add will change how the blocks are stored and the contents of the blocks.

In the meantime, I will be adding more features to the UI and will test it thoroughly. Hopefully I can get it ready before my school starts.

I'd be starting my third year in Computer Engineering soon.

PM me on reddit, we can add you to our vertcoin slack. We are all open to ideas. Lets see what we can do. It might be better to fork or work on an existing coin (vertcoin) that has some footing rather than start a new coin.
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 23, 2016, 01:07:02 PM
A little bit of progress... Lots of placeholders.
The wallet balance is real and updated every 10 seconds. Network hash, difficulty, etc., are all updated every 10 seconds.

I figured it'd be nice to have info like that on a wallet. Adding exchange rates soon.




Once I finish the wallet UI, I will make a great coin with my original ideas Cheesy

Instead of developing a new coin why don't you help with vertcoin development. We need core wallet devs, and you seem to be able to help with that.
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 20, 2016, 04:41:27 PM
All indicators show vtc/btc ratio is gonna hit new all time low..I already shorted this..too bad, I thought this coin has potential
We will wave you goodbye when we are on the rocket. Can't wait to do that.
Short doing great so far...see you at 3k
see you at 300k  Grin

Why not.
Could be possible if vert had some development, for now thats just a dream. Would be suprised if we ever see 30k again.
What needs to be developed?
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 19, 2016, 01:59:12 PM
Hey guys I'm working on a Electrons app for Vertcoin.

Anyone interested in a new GUI for local Vertcoin client?


Yes! Why don't get in touch with the devs to see if you can help them out with the wallet upgrade?
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 03, 2016, 01:53:50 AM
If there are 3 devs why the fuck they need developer for core wallet update? 3 devs dont know how to do it? Lol

Fyi . We currently have 2 devs and a couple that help out when they can, and we are always looking for more . We are focusing on long term support right now which involves keeping the wallets and software up to date . People have lives and get busy , we don't get paid for this . We are working on setting the vertcoin foundation to add some legitimacy to all this, and maybe one day we can actually pay the people who spend their time supporting and developing this coin . Long term support seems like the best bet right . You might be disappointed in the lack of development, but we are still here and vertcoin continues to be one of the most profitable gpu minable coins . The same cannot be said for newer coins that gain huge followings and then quickly fade out .

Dash uses a % deduction from the block rewards to fund development, which may be a direction to consider to fund future development.

I not sure, how they coded it into their network.


Dash has master nodes
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 03, 2016, 12:38:13 AM
If there are 3 devs why the fuck they need developer for core wallet update? 3 devs dont know how to do it? Lol

Fyi . We currently have 2 devs and a couple that help out when they can, and we are always looking for more . We are focusing on long term support right now which involves keeping the wallets and software up to date . People have lives and get busy , we don't get paid for this . We are working on setting the vertcoin foundation to add some legitimacy to all this, and maybe one day we can actually pay the people who spend their time supporting and developing this coin . Long term support seems like the best bet right . You might be disappointed in the lack of development, but we are still here and vertcoin continues to be one of the most profitable gpu minable coins . The same cannot be said for newer coins that gain huge followings and then quickly fade out .
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 02, 2016, 05:26:56 PM
I guess the dev has abandoned VTC.

Who is "the dev" ?
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 01, 2016, 11:42:17 PM
We don't have enough devs for elasticity . Also vertcoin is looking for devs, so if you know C++ feel free to leave a comment, or message me on reddit :

https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/4vmnsi/vertcoin_is_looking_for_core_wallet_devs/
vtc doesnt have devs? this coin is dead..too bad this happened in such a bullish market. Time to move on...

We have devs, but not enough devs for such a huge undertaking such as elasticity.
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 01, 2016, 08:53:24 PM
We don't have enough devs for elasticity . Also vertcoin is looking for devs, so if you know C++ feel free to leave a comment, or message me on reddit :

https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/4vmnsi/vertcoin_is_looking_for_core_wallet_devs/
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: July 26, 2016, 12:05:41 PM
Yeah the pic is photoshopped, but the first part is true . There are 2 forks of ether .
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: July 25, 2016, 12:39:04 PM
i got into vertcoin this week with a gtx 1070, running about 39.5MH Smiley

felt it may be a better investment play than the RX480. both make similar returns now, but the ethereum difficulty has been rocketing and the currency has had its contract application usability brought into question

Ethereum is like a super fit model that wants to sleep with you, but you know they have herpes. Do you want to take a chance ? Ethers half ass hardfork has split into ETHC( ether classic-prefork) and ETH(post fork) and wow, now i'm seeing serveral others being traded (https://i.imgur.com/Tvt6F9a.jpg) .
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: August 24, 2015, 11:26:18 PM
Vertcoin is more mining profitable from other coins
This is true. But Ethereum mining is 10 times more profitable than even VTC at the moment. All my 64-bit rigs are switched to it at the moment. I'm mining VTC on the only one that is 32-bit.

Isn't Ethereum POS?
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