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Your method to include the images seems to work just fine.
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Mine was released yesterday, so June 26 -> July 7, that is a whole 11 days instead of the expected 1 day for a SEPA transfer (the money arrived on their bank account in Poland on June 27).
I don't buy the "AML checks" argument, which seems to be used as an excuse, as my account was marked as "verified" already. I smell something fishy, but I can't tell what for sure.
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Oui, enfin il y a quand-même 15€ de frais de retrait, ce qui est assez rédhibitoire quand on sait que ça n'a rien à voir avec ce qui est facturé pour un virement SEPA.
Vous êtes mal renseigné, la norme SEPA n'impose pas de tarification particulière. Ces 15 EUR correspondent à la commission prélevée par la Rietumu pour un virement sortant en EUR en économique (crédit à J+1). Je le sais bien, je parlais de la commission facturée par le CIC pour un virement SEPA (par défaut 0,20€ par transaction + 2,55€ par jour si plus de 4 virements si ça n'a pas changé), qui revient dans le pire des cas (5 virements sortants) à 0,71€ par virement. Je comprends le 0,99€, je ne comprenais pas le 15€. Je veux bien croire que la Rietmu prenait 15€, vous avez bien fait de changer ! |
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In my experience bitcoin-central isn't very fast, but decently reliable. At bitmarket.eu you'll have to be lucky with the seller. If you had mentioned it 2 days earlier I could've told you which offer was mine (the Dutch one) and I could have insured speedy delivery (SEPA = max 2 days, so you'd have had the coins today). Mtgox is Slow, very slow. Anyway, none of that really matters now I guess. Good you managed to get some in last week  Mmm, if you sold 55€ on Jul. 3, then I was the buyer. I did three buys from bitmarket.eu, and all of them cleared in two days max. Note that bitcoin-central just updated their fees page a few hours ago: now, a SEPA transfer from them is correctly listed at a 0,99€ flat fee, instead of the previously stated 15,00€ fee. |
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Pour ceux qui n'auraient pas suivi le thread en anglais: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67602.0jav a souhaité se consacrer à d'autres développements et a cédé le domaine et l'application instawallet.org à l'équipe de bitcoin-central qui reprend fièrement le flambeau, en maintenant la gratuité du service. Revenez donc nombreux sur instawallet.org, vous êtes les bienvenus ! Peut-être faudrait-il arrêter de se dévaloriser : Q: I sent Bitcoins from my Instawallet and they have not arrived yet. What happened?
A: Please be patient. Instawallet currently includes no fees in transactions (this feature is planned however) and as such they can sometimes take a very long time to confirm.
alors que visiblement maintenant des frais ont été inclus si on en croit cette transaction qui émane de Instawallet : http://www.blockchain.info/tx-index/11405486/92bbdd12585ea85ef5d1471fd7fff0a122b05a86512fc87198f4b35f7d2b3bb1 |
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Bitcoin-Central.net change de banque entre autres afin de réduire les frais liés aux virements SEPA sortants. Pour mémoire la Rietumu (banque Lettone et non Lituanienne) facturait 15€ par virement sortant.
Cela nous permettra de proposer une commission sur cashout largement inférieure à ce que nous étions en mesure de proposer auparavant. Cela nous amènera plus de vendeurs, donc plus de liquidité, donc, in fine, des cours plus avantageux pour les acheteurs.
Comme je l'ai déjà signalé tout à l'heure dans un autre fil, la documentation en ligne de bitcoin-central mentionne toujours 15€ de commission par virement SEPA sortant. Ce qui explique peut-être que les gens ne se précipitent pas pour vendre des bitcoins. Pour ma part, avec 15€ je ne considérais même pas cette possibilité. Baisser la commission et communiquer dessus une fois que les pages sont à jour devrait amener des vendeurs et faire baisser le prix d'achat |
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Tu peux en acheter sur MTGOX et les revendre sur bitcoin-central peut être.
On vous encourage à le faire, il y a des opportunités d'arbitrage intéressantes et vous donnerez de la liquidité aux acheteurs. Oui, enfin il y a quand-même 15€ de frais de retrait, ce qui est assez rédhibitoire quand on sait que ça n'a rien à voir avec ce qui est facturé pour un virement SEPA. Je suppose que les vendeurs l'incluent dans leur calcul de prix, et que c'est ce qui cause la volatilité plus faible et les cours plus importants. Ooops, je viens de lire le changement de 15€ à 0,99€ que j'avais loupé dans le post que je cite, mais le 15€ dont je parlais est en ce moment sur le site: https://bitcoin-central.net/s/fees |
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Tu peux en acheter sur MTGOX et les revendre sur bitcoin-central peut être.
On vous encourage à le faire, il y a des opportunités d'arbitrage intéressantes et vous donnerez de la liquidité aux acheteurs. Oui, enfin il y a quand-même 15€ de frais de retrait, ce qui est assez rédhibitoire quand on sait que ça n'a rien à voir avec ce qui est facturé pour un virement SEPA. Je suppose que les vendeurs l'incluent dans leur calcul de prix, et que c'est ce qui cause la volatilité plus faible et les cours plus importants. |
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Ils m'ont aussi répondu cela mais c'est difficilement crédible. J'ai fait un transfert il y a 8 jours (France -> Mt.Gox à travers leur banque polonaise), et je ne vois pas ce qui pourrait retenir le virement, que peuvent-ils faire comme « vérification » ?
Pour info, j'ai testé aussi, ces deux dernières semaines, bitcoin-central.net (leur banque est en France) qui m'a donné satisfaction, et bitmarket.eu avec trois particuliers, pleine satisfaction également. Je viens de lancer un transfert vers bitcoin-24.com, pour voir ce que ça donne, donc normalement je le saurai lundi.
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If you have any reputation you can temporarily borrow the coins.
I don't. And I understand why I wouldn't get a reasonably priced loan without it. Which is why I didn't even try Given how lengthy this is to convert fiat into btc, I undestand the need for having some BTC piled up into an offline account for when you need them. Right now, the fastest for me (starting with EUR) have been bitmarket.eu and bitcoin-central.com, although their EUR/BTC price is higher than on Mt.Gox. I'm also currently evaluating bitcoin-24.com, SEPA transfer has been done today and should arrive on Monday (next business day). Fortunately, I could get some BTC into the GBF last week, and I'm eager to see how it performs. |
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Because of Mt.Gox currently holding on my incoming SEPA transfer for 10 days now, I won't be able to increase my participation to your fund.
I'm really happy with the diversification and the reduced pirate exposure that went on this week.
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I just received this reply from Mt.Gox: Due to more stringent requirements, SEPA deposits are now being checked for AML and therefore, it is taking a slightly longer time to credit them until the checkup is done. We thank you for your kind understanding and patience in this matter.
I don't know what to think about it, given that they asked me for more information about my payment when I first inquired about where the money was, as if they couldn't find it in their books. Now, it is supposedly because it is "checked for AML" (note that I had sent Mt.Gox my ID and proof of residency before since they want them before accepting a SEPA transfer), but they don't give any timeframe estimation about when I will be able to use the money that I trusted them with (one hour, half a day, 24 hours?). |
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You're more lucky than I am. My SEPA transfer was initiated on June 26, and my request (ticket #31225) has not been resolved since it was opened on June 30. My transaction message started with M81, but I already told them all that.
Did you provide useful information related to your transfer that could help them find it for you? Like, your IBAN, BIC, Bank, Name, Amount sent, date sent, destination IBAN and BIC (MtGox' account details, because they have many accounts in different countries). I provided with everything they asked me to, that is the bank, the account name, the date sent, the destination BIC+IBAN, the amount, the label, and even the transaction id as shown on my bank statement. They haven't asked from my IBAN and BIC. What is troubling is that they haven't told me once that they didn't receive the money, only that they're "investigating". Although I use bitcoins in small amounts almost since day one, this was the first time I sent money to an exchange (two of them actually, and the other exchange received the money the day after and credited my BTC balance), and I never imagined it would be such a hassle when it was sold as a pretty simple and fast operation. |
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You're more lucky than I am. My SEPA transfer was initiated on June 26, and my request (ticket #31225) has not been resolved since it was opened on June 30. My transaction message started with M81, but I already told them all that.
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My ticket number is at Mt.Gox support is #31225, which is open since June 30. I even got the transaction number from my bank.
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Some software can import wallets from other software (Armory can import wallets from older versions of bitcoind). In the future, wallets could even be made compatible by implementing the same new address generation algorithm.
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Mt.Gox seems to be having issues handling SEPA transfers right now.
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Hi.
I've initiated a SEPA transfer from France to Mt.Gox account (in Poland), and 8 days later this has not been credited into my Mt.Gox account (nor cancelled by my bank). I contacted Mt.Gox support which asked me to confirm the bank and label used in the transaction, but I can't seem to get an answer from them for the last two days.
A SEPA transfer done early on day X should be credited no later than day X+1. Not having any news of this money in 8 days is worrisome. Is it common for Mt.Gox to take so many days to process an incoming transaction?
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