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221  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Legality of prostitution and being homeless on: January 06, 2013, 06:52:48 PM
What do you mean by homelessness being illegal? Sending a homeless person to jail? In most civilised societies, food, shelter, basic education, and health care are human rights. So, sending to jail politicians and bureaucrats who fail to provide shelter for everyone?

Alot of countries put homeless people into minimum wage jobs (usually factory jobs). Proponents say it's a humanitarian move because it provides them with a job/food/shelter, but alot of people are against it because they say it violates their freedoms/rights/etc./etc.

As for the thread topic, IMO homelessness shouldn't be illegal. Some people fall on hard times and you can't violate their liberties because of it. Also a small number of homeless people are homeless by choice, you can't punish those few for their lifestyle if it isn't hurting anybody.

Prostitution should be legal but somewhat regulated. If porn is legal why shouldn't prostitution be legal? I see no difference. As long as the prostitute him/herself is deciding to sell their body on his/her own volition, then it's no business of other people what they do.
222  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Senate approves $60.4 billion Sandy reconstruction bill on: January 06, 2013, 04:37:02 PM
I do not feel it is right for the government, and the insurance industry by proxy, to kill me because I refuse to help someone in another state who lost their home in a natural disaster.



Keep that in mind if you ever lose anything.. Or ever need government assistance, I hope all your medical bills are paid cash out of your pocket too.


Besides, its not as if they're giving 60.4 billion dollars for free.
It's going to create jobs, and the jobs that are created the workers will pay taxes.

Taxes on purchased supplies, taxes on sold supplies, taxes on paychecks, and taxes on spent paychecks.

Do the math if only 10 billion of it was put aside for workers sorry if my math is bad I'm tired, but $1000/wk paycheck for 52 weeks for 192,000 people.
At 25% taxes that's $2.5 billion back to the government just in paychecks.
At FL rate that's 487.5m just to spend it, so 3b back into the treasury so out of 10b paychecks 3b goes back.

192,000 more jobs will make longer lines in walmart, and another lane will open, another worker getting a paycheck going to subway, needing another worker because with the walmart employee and the construction workers needing food. chain reaction.

Not saying these are going to be exact numbers, but jobs are always good.

But 60 billion less in taxes would have allowed the taxpayers to spend more than their current budget allows, which means more $ for business which means growth which means jobs. You can use that argument for anything.
223  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Regulating frameworks for sugar on: January 01, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
“Education has not worked. Labeling has not worked. And they’re not going to work,” he told me in his characteristically emphatic way. “Education hasn’t worked for any addictive substance.”

Ummm...cigarettes? Last time I checked 1st-world (so to speak) profits from cigarettes have plummeted due to the education that "hasn't worked". They're only making up the sales by pumping up cigarette sales to developing countries.

I do, however, agree with him that many countries (such as the U.S.) have serious sugar problems. People are almost becoming addicted to it. However, you can't control peoples lives and force them to do some things and not to do other things unless their actions are directly harming other people, and I don't see how people eating a lot of sugar harms me in any way.

Tough to say it was just education, when the taxes have also gone up factors above what they were even when I was just a kid

True, and they also lost a fair bit of political influence. While it might not have been the sole cause, the public awareness campaign was the largest proponent for getting people off cigarettes and its influence was vast. So to go as far as to say it education "hasn't worked" is untrue.
224  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Those fuckers! Fiscal Cliff Rolled Back! on: January 01, 2013, 06:18:30 PM
How the hell do they do it and get away with it so easily?
Simple. They have a "job" that only comes up for "review" once every two, four, or six years (for Congress, President, and Senate, respectively) and their accountability is limited to either being retained or not according to how the great swarming mass of people vote. If they fail the "review", they simply move into a cushy lobbyist or corporate position, and if they pass, they continue feathering their nest for another 2, 4, or 6 years.

The system is the scam of the millennium, and such results are anything but "unexpected".


This. We need term limits and knowledgeable voters. I know, too much to ask for.

The incentives are all wrong. Every voter knows that their vote, individually, means next to nothing. Since their decision is practically meaningless, there's no incentive to make sure that decision is well-informed.

This, and there's enough misinformation spread by the various media organizations that voters can just sort of pick one and adopt their opinions from it. Which allows them to appear like they're informed and politically active, while saving them from doing any actual research themselves.
225  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Regulating frameworks for sugar on: January 01, 2013, 05:28:33 PM
“Education has not worked. Labeling has not worked. And they’re not going to work,” he told me in his characteristically emphatic way. “Education hasn’t worked for any addictive substance.”

Ummm...cigarettes? Last time I checked 1st-world (so to speak) profits from cigarettes have plummeted due to the education that "hasn't worked". They're only making up the sales by pumping up cigarette sales to developing countries.

I do, however, agree with him that many countries (such as the U.S.) have serious sugar problems. People are almost becoming addicted to it. However, you can't control peoples lives and force them to do some things and not to do other things unless their actions are directly harming other people, and I don't see how people eating a lot of sugar harms me in any way.
226  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Those fuckers! Fiscal Cliff Rolled Back! on: January 01, 2013, 05:20:30 PM
You expected a different result? Anyway, this is good news. Anything they might have done would have only delayed this moment, which is inevitable. At least now something real is going to happen -- there will be actual deficit reduction, government spending will be reduced, and people will start paying more of the cost their government entitlements.

>You expected a different result?

I did honestly, I thought they would pass some half-ass measure allowing us to limp on a little further whilst saving them face. However, just because that's what I expected doesn't mean I'm surprised by this result either.
227  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Charlie's Guide to Successful Alcohol Abuse on: December 31, 2012, 04:33:47 AM
>Politics board
>Charlie's Guide to Successful Alcohol Abuse

I approve
228  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child Uses Fathers Assault Rifle To Defend Against Home Invaders on: December 30, 2012, 03:13:22 AM

msnbc told me so
229  Other / Politics & Society / U.S. Senate approves $60.4 billion Sandy reconstruction bill on: December 29, 2012, 02:27:36 AM
Senate passed a bill that will put $60.4 billion towards reconstructing the areas hit by superstorm sandy.

Republicans who are trying to cut down the bills costs have thus far been unsuccessful.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wire-news/us-senate-approves-36604-billion-superstorm-sandy-reconstruction-bill_801026.html
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-12-28/senate-approves-60-billion-hurricane-sandy-aid-package
http://news.yahoo.com/senate-approves-60-4-billion-sandy-aid-bill-000348278.html


Opinions? IMO it sucks that many people had their lives destroyed but it is not up to the taxpayers to pay for damage done to private property via a natural occurrence. This sort of thing is best handled by charitable organizations, forcing people to pay for the misfortunes of others seems like charity-at-gunpoint so to speak. I also don't get where this $60 billion is coming from, last I checked the U.S. was broke.
230  Economy / Digital goods / - - Selling Steam Games - - BEST PRICE OR I'LL MATCH!!! - - on: December 29, 2012, 01:14:04 AM
These prices are (as far as I know) lower than anywhere. If you find a lower price somewhere else, i'll match it (as long as it isn't ridiculously low).

Natural Selection 2 - 0.6 BTC
Killing Floor - 0.35 BTC
Shank 2 - 0.09 BTC

Dungeon Defenders - 0.16 BTC
Dead Island (Game of the Year Edition) - 0.65 BTC
Serious Sam 3: BFE - 0.8 BTC

Psychonauts - 0.23 BTC
Darksiders Franchise (everything) - 0.8 BTC
Dawn of War Franchise (everything) - 0.7 BTC

Saints Row the Third Full Package - 0.6 BTC
Gish - 0.09 BTC
The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom - 0.09 BTC

Cthulhu Saves the World + Breath of Death VII - 0.09 BTC
Bastion - 0.35 BTC
Arkham City (Game of the Year Edition) - 0.5 BTC

Hotline Miami - 0.29 BTC
Mass Effect Collection (ME1 + ME2 digital deluxe edition) - 0.7 BTC
Dota 2 Key - 0.09 BTC

If you would like to purchase anything just post here or PM me. Any questions, just ask

Past trades for legitimacy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109366.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133243
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122349
231  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB small amount of BTC at $14 each via PP USD on: December 26, 2012, 12:00:16 AM
+1 AlexNeto, smooth transaction
232  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Young Mans' Mothers' Anonymous Letter To Todays Women on: December 25, 2012, 09:59:11 PM
mostly true
233  Economy / Currency exchange / [CLOSED] WTB small amount of BTC at $14 each via PP USD on: December 25, 2012, 06:26:55 AM
Sold my old league account for $60, would like to transfer that into BTC.

$60 in BTC at $14 each = 4.28 BTC

Trades on this site thus far:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109366.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122481
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122349
234  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I think I'm actually going to boycott mainstream televised news on: December 23, 2012, 07:40:17 AM
@ OP

Ya I myself don't even have cable, all my news I get online and any shows I like I just queue them online and hook up an hdmi to my t.v.

The news is all incredibly biased poorly-reported crap, the shows are almost all poorly-written and try wayyyy too hard to appeal to as much of the population as they can, and they rarely ever show good movies anymore. As far as I'm concerned, I just don't see any reason to watch ANY of the broadcasted shit.
235  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TOR: Exit node raided in austria: donate to possibly set legal precedent on: December 01, 2012, 07:14:34 PM
Christ...just one small step and a long plunge away from a global police state. I'll try and scrounge up a few BTC and send it his way.
236  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Sportsmans' Act of 2012 on: November 29, 2012, 06:04:07 AM
failed in the senate today
Would have prevented the EPA from regulating lead in ammunition.

Why is lead in ammunition a bad thing? I don't know anything about guns, so I'm just curious.
237  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Indiana State Police Chief: Legalize and Tax Pot on: November 29, 2012, 06:01:23 AM
I can feel the winds of change, but I just hope all these states that will end up legalizing it don't have ridiculous tax rates. I don't mind paying a little but I keep hearing politicians talking about 25-30% tax rates and that's just ridiculous.
238  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Natural Selection 2 Steam Copies (normal edition) for 1.5 BTC each on: November 28, 2012, 01:21:30 AM
bamp, price adjusted to account for higher btc value
239  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet on: November 27, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
they gotta tax everything don't they?
240  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isreal prepares for war... again ? on: November 27, 2012, 08:17:17 PM

>"You are not giving money for free to anyone."
>"You are not giving money for free"
>"not giving money for free"
>wat

They're paying us back plus interest? I didn't know man, i'm sorry.

Are you serious?

Ever tough about why the Israel state was created and why there?

It doesn't touch you that somebody could have some little interested in the region?

This stuff is better than 3% yearly interests...

I wish I understood what you wrote
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