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2201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 18, 2022, 10:25:55 AM
I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

A unification fight will definitely happen if Bivol successfully defends his title again, I mean what else is next, right? This might be twice as hard from his fight against Canelo but if he can win this, his name will be hyped so much that people will call for an undisputed fight next. And just like what you've said, I hope so too that Artur Beterbiev will be healthy again because watching a fight where the other side have some problems is not that interesting to see.
2202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 10 years ago on: October 18, 2022, 09:34:13 AM
This can't be a comparison because 10 years ago we were clueless and only now is proof that $12 Bitcoin can reach as high as $69k (2021) as ATH and for its current price of $19.7k it's just history that Bitcoin went from small to high. to be the largest ever in a decade.

Now the best way is HODL in 2022 with an average price of $19k and wait 10-15 years from now will the current price become history again? Or in the next decade we will see $100k-$200k? It's possible for me Bitcoin has a different cycle in each iteration of its history.

Keep your money in Bitcoin for sure we can see how the price will come. the word HODL became my reinforcement.

Yes, a decade ago, bitcoin wasn't this much known and famous. Many people have already came across with it but chose to neglect because we don't have any idea how it works or if it will become what it is now. In fact, there are only few people who trusted it and knows its value but only a very handful of people who still holds it until this very day. And you're right mate, this is a good chance to accumulate more while it is selling at a discounted price because we don't really know if this is already the rock bottom for the next decade to come.
2203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 18, 2022, 07:59:45 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.

Yeah, he might be traded because the Warriors' management choose to give Poole a good contract than giving Green a max contract.

4 years contract, that's  $35 million per year, higher than Draymond Green which only making $25 million this season.
I wonder how he is feeling now, a young player getting bigger salary than him, and how about Andrew Wiggins contract extension, what would be the effect?

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.

That is for sure, there's no way he couldn't hear about it. Even rumors are half true these days mainly about his situation. Personally, I don't even think that they'll give Green a max extension because that doesn't benefit the team anymore as they are prioritizing the younger ones who could be the next generation for the franchise. As for Green, he won't have a hard time going in any team in the league but the contract he'll get is not that high either.
2204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casinos vs money laundering. on: October 16, 2022, 02:55:44 PM

To be honest, I don't think there's much problem if you'll try other gambling platform as long as you think that those are reputable enough. I've been with multiple gambling platform and tried to gamble on some of them however I never tried to do any KYC to avoid any future conflict. Still, staying on just a few casinos is one of the best choices rather than sticking with multiple casinos.

Knowing the consequences of your actions is very important, with KYC information, you can easily be traced by the authorities or your data can be sold on the black market if the casino is not reputable, so at least know the risk. Actually, there are plenty of reputable casinos that do not require a KYC, not totally they won't but only when you pass the criteria, but for small-time gamblers, there should be no problem as we are only dealing with small amounts of money.
2205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 16, 2022, 12:57:23 PM
As for the betting discussion, Inoue by a decision is not that likely and I expect this will be a KO but the challenge is to know what range it will happen.
Maybe, however, if you want your KO bet to be exciting, you need to guess correctly which rounds Inoue will KO Butler. Usually the formats are rounds 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12.. You will only choose one for better odds, that's still 25% chance only if it will be a KO win by Inoue indeed.

Well, it's kinda hard to put a bet on the first three rounds because I know Butler won't be facing Inoue on a toe-to-toe match here because he'd probably end the fight within the 1st or 2nd round. Strongest option for me is the second one, that might be the time where Butler is already cornered. How about you, what do you think?

Good point though, but if the odds would still make us profitable, why not bet on rounds 1-3, and 4-6, so in the first 6 rounds, Inoue should win by KO in order for our bet to win. However, if you want bigger return, then you better take a higher risk to get a better odds, and that is probably rounds 1-3.

You won't be able to see the complete betting odds soon, most likely odds will only be available once the fight is approaching, since we still have more than a month before the schedule of the fight, so it's still the ML odds that will be displayed by the sportsbook.

It's better if we have a reference like a previous fight of Inoue and the range of the rounds so we can see a picture of what possibly the odds.

It's just too bad for Butler as no one is talking here about him winning an upset, he better bet on himself if he really trust himself to win.
2206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 16, 2022, 12:05:17 PM
I already posted before the fight that it will be the same result but this time its a much better win for Haney he is the one who learned and improved on this rematch, the jabs, the moves, and the ring generalship is just awesome to watch, I know that Haney is a good boxer already but after I saw this fight there's still an improvement on how he box, he is the money an all the titles are on his waist, now he will be one of the most sought boxers, he is the undisputed champion and he did great winning all those belts.

Yes, as what we have been saying, it will be a repeat performance by Haney. But this time, he didn't play it safe as most of his critics are saying about him. Instead he dished out more jabs, and right hands on Kambosos face that at the end of the fight, George is really bleeding and bludgeon by Haney. So there is no doubt that that man in this division is Haney and not the overhype Ryan Garcia or Tank Davis. Time for Loma to do this part, so that next year it will be one of the biggest fight in the 135 lbs when Haney vs Loma face each other.

Haney showed some aggressiveness, however, it seemed like he has no power to KO Kambosos. If he will go up against Loma, I think that would be a very exciting fight, and personally, I think I like Loma's chance of beating him, either by judges scorecards or through KO/TKO.

That's one weakness of Haney, he is feather fisted fighter but he make it up with his superior jabs and ring IQ. And I will commend Kambosos, in the first 2 rounds he was really very aggressive and hitting Haney. But it seems the gets tired and then Haney taking over the full fight.

And it will be quite interesting fight next for Haney, because it will be against the best tactical boxer in the division. Currently, I can't see which is going to win though. So congrats to Haney and then we will for Loma's comeback back and hopefully there will be no problems with Ortiz.

Agree with you, he still outsmarted Kambosos here and I'm happy that it already came from him that he is open for a fight against Kambosos. Haney is a legit warrior, he is not afraid of fighting the best, I hope other champions will have that kind of mentality.
2207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: October 16, 2022, 11:03:43 AM
How about the game tomorrow? SMB VS Bay Area Dragons at 4:30 PM.

Sadly there's no facebook like, so we have no choice but to watch it on cable TV.

No betting odds yet as of the moment but tomorrow for sure we will see the odds.
Anyone here have a guess of the possible handicap?

Bay Area Dragons 1.38,   SMB Beermen 2.90

^^ ML odds at the moment but i don't think there will be changes minutes before the game.

Fajardo won't be playing because of the surgery to his throat and per report he gonna missed a few games, so I think if will be a tough hill to climb for the Beermen considering that the Dragons will go out strong and prove to the PBA fans that they are for real.



Though I'm a fan of the Beermen but will put my money on the Dragons on this game because i think that Diamond won't be enough to beat the Dragons.

Good luck mate, but as of the moment SMB is leading the game, well, you have a point, without Fajardo I think SMB would be a problem, so taking the Bay Area Dragons is a good choice. Maybe I'll just observe a bit, will just put a bet once I'm comfortable with the odds and the spread, watching now.

Dragons up by 18 big points after 24 minutes of play with Nicholson doing his usual thing and leading the Dragons with his 25 points after two quarters while Stone has yet to break into the double digit offensive output with 9 points. Like i have said the Beermen will struggle getting the points of their outside shots won't fall, no go to guy if they need a sure two points as Fajardo is not around.

I won't bet anymore in this game as i'm good with my pre-game bet and i think i have a more than 60 percent to win this ticket.

Dragons 1.06 Beermen 7.75, ML odds as of halftime while those who want to bet for SMB with a handicap can choose the option SMB +14.5 @1.75 which for me is very risky considering they don't have their MVP.


While watching Bay Area really dominating the game, Nicholson is unstoppable with the other big players of Dragons it's really difficult for SMB to match the game up, aside from Nicholson's scoring power he is also good in finding the open advantage of his teammate, under 7 minutes now and the lead still huge 94-70 in favor of the visiting team, those who bet for them for the handicap are likely to win the game, luckily I check first how SMB will play and I feel that there's no competition or I mean they are not that aggressive in this game they are just trying to make some point but they are not in the champion caliber in my opinion playing in today's game.

They already made the right adjustment, what do you think would happen if they'll ever face Ginebra again? would you still bet on Ginebra to win? SMB is missing Fajardo, so they can make an excuse for their big loss. I know the Dragons are for real, but so far they only beat a good team that is undermanned.
2208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 16, 2022, 09:46:36 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.

Yeah, he might be traded because the Warriors' management choose to give Poole a good contract than giving Green a max contract.

4 years contract, that's  $35 million per year, higher than Draymond Green which only making $25 million this season.
I wonder how he is feeling now, a young player getting bigger salary than him, and how about Andrew Wiggins contract extension, what would be the effect?
2209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: October 16, 2022, 08:41:27 AM
How about the game tomorrow? SMB VS Bay Area Dragons at 4:30 PM.

Sadly there's no facebook like, so we have no choice but to watch it on cable TV.

No betting odds yet as of the moment but tomorrow for sure we will see the odds.
Anyone here have a guess of the possible handicap?

Bay Area Dragons 1.38,   SMB Beermen 2.90

^^ ML odds at the moment but i don't think there will be changes minutes before the game.

Fajardo won't be playing because of the surgery to his throat and per report he gonna missed a few games, so I think if will be a tough hill to climb for the Beermen considering that the Dragons will go out strong and prove to the PBA fans that they are for real.



Though I'm a fan of the Beermen but will put my money on the Dragons on this game because i think that Diamond won't be enough to beat the Dragons.

Good luck mate, but as of the moment SMB is leading the game, well, you have a point, without Fajardo I think SMB would be a problem, so taking the Bay Area Dragons is a good choice. Maybe I'll just observe a bit, will just put a bet once I'm comfortable with the odds and the spread, watching now.
2210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 15, 2022, 09:58:59 PM

You don't need to ask that for him because we know Loma, he is a great boxer and he is always an entertaining boxer to watch. In fact, I'm more interested on his next fight as this fight is just probably his warm up before a big fight which could happen this year.

Loma has been an entertaining boxer all these years and for him to fight Ortiz in his comeback is the best decision for his team because he really needs warm up if he wants to get ready for a big fish next fight. Let's just hope he will gonna finish this quick in the early rounds without getting injured or something like that, in order for him to get a quick fight in the first quarter of next year. Who might be his next potential opponent when he is done with this one?

Yes, there's no doubt about that but that is already a history as we don't know yet if he is indeed back in his old form. I'm not saying that I don't have much faith with him but I think it is much better not to underestimate Jamaine Ortiz because we don't know, Loma might end up defeated just like what happened to him against Teo Lopez. Again, I might be wrong.

Following your statement and it's indeed possible as upset in this sport can take place. Don't quote me on this but remember how Pacquiao have a higher expectation when he faced Ugas same with Alvarez when he had been defeated by Bivol though on that note both Ugas and Bivol do have decent stats comparing with Ortiz, but same with your sentiment, we never know if Loma is already on his best form after being absent for quite a while.

All will be decided when the fight start and the fighters start showing their skills, both have good reason to win, Loma for possibilities of a title fight while for Ortiz to hype his career since he's fighting against a very well-known great fighter.

There's only a big difference compared to the two fighters you've mentioned, and that is the betting odds because Vasiliy Lomachenko is heavily favored by bookies compared to Ugas and Bivol who were only a slight underdog during their fight. So if there's an upset here, bettors will definitely have a big smile on their faces as they will get a huge return of their bets with the current odds of Jamaine Ortiz.
2211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 15, 2022, 09:36:01 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.
2212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Survey] Do you still play or stop the game? on: October 15, 2022, 02:43:51 PM
If you are playing gambling for example slots and you double money with just a couple of bets on very early part of your game. Will you stop already or continue playing to earn more?

I’ve been on this situation many times before and I keep playing until I get the entertainment that I want and to have more profit. But the result is always ended up losing everything because it’s very easy to increase bet if you knew that your money that you use is a profit.  Cheesy

Man, this is slots, there's a house edge so you'll still lose in the long run as the house would always win, the system is designed in their favor. So for me, I would just stop based on my target, because gambling without a goal of winning is just gambling without a direction, and 100%, most of the time, you'll end up losing everything you have because of lack of control.
2213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: October 15, 2022, 01:57:35 PM
Back to the topic, with Crawford and Spence's active boxing lifestyle, I doubt Pacquiao can still go head-to-head against them.

That depends on Pacman's lifestyle during his retirement period, we have to remember also that Spence was into a serious car accident but he was able to come back strong and still win a fight, so it's no different with Pacman's rest in boxing, maybe the only difference is that he is already old now.
2214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 15, 2022, 01:02:16 PM


No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

What I don't like about rematches when the first match is not that close, is the fight just picked up where it left off, Haney totally dominated Kambosos and I don't see what Kambosos will do to counter Haney's best moves, Haney is too good for Kambosos he is too good on their first fight he will be still good in this rematch unless Kambosos show something that we don't see in all his fights, the first four rounds is very important on these four rounds we'll know if its a reply of the first like what happened in the Ancajas - Martinez rematch.

Though it wasn't close but I think Kambosos is still trying to find a way to avenge his loss, besides there's a rematch clause if I'm not mistaken, so there's nothing wrong with the rematch, but it may not be interesting compared to the other matches we had witnessed in the  past.
2215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: October 15, 2022, 12:30:39 PM
Nice timing indeed, now the Meralco is leading by a point in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes to go.

Too bad that i have not bet on that ML for Meralco at halftime, could have been a few dollars richer if I'm brave enough to take that one hehe.

It's understandable, mate. Even if I'm on your feet, I won't consider betting on Meralco ML even if the odds went to @9. That was risky. Even if that's Meralco, we will think that it's risky to trust them to overcome that 20 points deficit and win at the end of the game.

You have to move on now on that bet as it's now close to happening haha. 99-97 Converge with less than a minute to go.

Congrats on the win on your bet, it's now a sure win.

It turns out it was not a sure win because Converge won the game. I believe Meralco was the favorite on that game, looks like we have plenty of upsets in the past games so far, so is that the trend to follow?

Meanwhile, we have ROS vs TNT, looks like we now see a sure winner as TNT is already ahead by 18 points.
2216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: October 13, 2022, 05:02:02 PM

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

Maybe yes and maybe there's other things that kept both camps to negotiate and close the deal. There are things that
still undecided or still not being cleared from both sides.

I see your point and maybe that's why Crawford on the earlier time said that he's willing to adjust with the amount of
potential profits, I mean he's willing to give Spence higher cut.

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

It is really unclear because we don't know anything about what could've been the reason why the fight has been further delayed, both camps are keeping the curtains close and we can't even feel that Crawford is giving some pressure to make the fight happen because he will be at the disadvantage if the fight keeps on moving behind the original schedule as time will not be on his side always. It's really hard to speculate when we don't know the correct details. Too bad if this fight won't really happen.

Yes, we are just waiting for a final update if there's already a confirmation if this fight will take place, as far as I understand
Crawford is vocally willing to adjust.

But we don't know the real score if it's Spence camps who's trying to avoid the fight or both of them
are not willing to risk both belts and records.

Too bad for most fans who are anticipating this possible fight as time goes by and the delay keeps on happening
possibly the interest will lessen, and fans and gamblers will be moving forward.


Some says this fight will happen January next year or somewhere in the first quarter, personally, that is quite hard to believe as of now mainly if there's no confirmation from either of the two camps that they are indeed trying to make it happen at the said date. It's not that it will lessen the interests of the people if the fight keeps on delaying but they are just going to be disappointed and tired of waiting.
2217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 13, 2022, 03:47:16 PM

Yes, Canelo and Hearn doesn't have much choice but to agree with Bivol's decision as he already earned the right to demand in case a rematch will happen even if the fight will be contested at 168 pounds. But before that, we know Canelo's camp are still observing what will happen on Bivol's upcoming match as that will determine if they will activate the rematch or not. We will know about it more soon, just like what you've said.

Agree to that, Canelo's camp might change direction once Bivol got upset with Ramirez. As far as I remember, he said that he's not willing to fight to any of his countrymen, but the chance of seeing a rematch is possible. Pride and money I guess Alvarez knew that if the rematch takes place, his fans will surely support him and it will generate a decent amount of money.

Win or lose both fighters will be secured by huge amount, but like what we mostly said, Bivol will be wiser now.

He's the belt holder if, in case he also beats Ramirez, money should be flowing for him this time.

Most of us are expecting Bivol to beat Ramirez. So what if Bivol stops Ramirez? Do you guys think that Canelo is brave enough to activate the rematch clause? Or maybe Canelo will ask Bivol to rematch him at 168 which is the more comfortable weight for Canelo?

After Ramirez, there's only the Beterbiev-Bivol undisputed fight that is supposed to happen at 175. Other than Beterbiev which is difficult to negotiate due to its different promoter and network, pretty sure small Bivol would be willing to drop to 168 for more money and the chance to become undisputed if this is the weight Canelo wants for the rematch.

I'm not that sure if Bivol can really dominate Ramirez because the latter is not an easy foe, in my opinion. But if ever Bivol stops Ramirez, Canelo might activate the rematch but I'm not sure if there will be a difference and I don't seriously think that he'd be willing to host Bivol in his comfortable division knowing that his chances is not that much, he'll be stripped of his title and belts if Bivol will defeat him in 168 pounds. It's still much better for Canelo to contest the fight at 175 pounds as there is nothing to lose in his side anymore, it won't be his first time too if he'll get defeated.

Second scenario is that Canelo will have to wait first until Bivol and Beterbiev will have the undisputed fight as Bivol is not prioritizing Canelo. But it got me thinking, what if Bivol will get the undisputed crown? Will Canelo chase him still? A Bivol-Beterbiev fight is not that too impossible as Bob Arum already said that he'll be willing to give Beterbiev his chance to unify the belts after his title defense against Yarde this January 2023, but with a condition, the fight will be hosted by ESPN and not by Eddie Hearn's Matchroom Boxing.

For everything that has been said, in context it can be said that the one with the least chance despite his recent triumph is Canelo, I think the worst mistake is that Canelo has let the RUSSIAN win, now the Russian has had more commitments what he wants to achieve, more titles, and fights that can really elevate him, clearly Canelo at this moment is not in the best position, however he advocates that his fight be prioritized and that some results be given that can facilitate the path to rematch, but it is good as they have said, the priority right now is not the rematch against Canelo, it is the growth of the Russian to higher standards, for now I think that the best thing Canelo can do is prepare, if the fight with Bivol does not take place, he has to win against all the boxers that come to him.



A little more about their fight:

   

Dmitry Bivol vs. Gilberto Ramirez – fast approaching



Twitter:https://twitter.com/MatchroomBoxing/status/1578713064102207488

Quote
“It’s a very complicated fight with Ramirez being a southpaw. He’s long, he’s rangy, and he’s going to want to come and box Bivol,” said Alexis Rocha to K.O. Artist Sports.

“Bivol is a boxer as well. If Ramirez comes to change up his style, I think Bivol is going to want to box him and counter-punch him, so it’s going to be an interesting fight to see.

“I’d give the edge to Ramirez in that. The longer fighter, not the fresher fighter, but the longer and more skilled fighter, I would say,” said Alexis.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/10/dmitry-bivol-vs-gilberto-ramirez-fast-approaching/

This really itches and spreads, things are getting very interesting, this fight is getting into one of the most interesting and that little by little the bettors are putting more pressure on it, currently I would not know who to go for, I still have many doubts.

Yes, so true! Defeating the one and only Canelo Alvarez definitely lifts up a boxer's career, and in this case it's Bivol, it gave the latter more opportunities and hype from being a "not-so-known" kind of boxer to a famous one. Canelo may talk all he want and I understand his frustrations but he got to understand that, like what have you said, giving a win to Bivol means he can't be the priority anymore as Bivol will look for more accomplisment.

I understand you mate, this is an interesting fight to see and it is really hard to choose whom we put our bet as both of them is outstanding in their own unique skills.
2218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 13, 2022, 02:49:09 PM

Because his chances are not the same anymore just like his power, speed and defense maneuvers. He cannot hide that fact that he is already old even if he's still fight in exhibitions, he will have the ring rust effect if he will choose to deal with the likes of Pacquiao nowadays, a May-Pac fight is profitable but knowing Mayweather, he doesn't want to get embarrassed from being defeated.

He doesn't really taste defeated ever since so what do you think he would feel if he gets defeated by Manny Pacquaio, or any boxer there is or should I say a Youtuber or an MMA fighter defeating Mayweather that level of embarrassment he would feel, because he hasn't experienced it at all, so experiencing it now could be a different effect for him, I'd say I'd really like to see that he gets embarrassed by a non-boxer inside the ring and the sports that he loves so much, I really want to see his reaction, and what would he feel,


That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.
2219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 13, 2022, 02:09:16 PM
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
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Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.

Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate.  Cheesy
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.

It should be fair and square, a fine and a suspension should be given to any players or staff that have broken some rules and shows unprofessionalism. It seems to me that the Warriors is not taking it seriously even if they knew that Poole's family isn't happy of what had happened. It's really fortunate enough that it was caught on video because if not, almost 100% we wouldn't know about it. What a controversial off-season!
2220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 12, 2022, 03:17:02 PM

You don't need to ask that for him because we know Loma, he is a great boxer and he is always an entertaining boxer to watch. In fact, I'm more interested on his next fight as this fight is just probably his warm up before a big fight which could happen this year.

Loma has been an entertaining boxer all these years and for him to fight Ortiz in his comeback is the best decision for his team because he really needs warm up if he wants to get ready for a big fish next fight. Let's just hope he will gonna finish this quick in the early rounds without getting injured or something like that, in order for him to get a quick fight in the first quarter of next year. Who might be his next potential opponent when he is done with this one?

Yes, there's no doubt about that but that is already a history as we don't know yet if he is indeed back in his old form. I'm not saying that I don't have much faith with him but I think it is much better not to underestimate Jamaine Ortiz because we don't know, Loma might end up defeated just like what happened to him against Teo Lopez. Again, I might be wrong.
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