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22101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 25, 2017, 03:43:27 AM
I want to buy 8 more 1080 Ti by the end of the year.  My first 8 were hybrids (two rigs with 4 each).  I'm thinking that's a better strategy.  But the lowliest EVGA board is almost $150 cheaper.  That's $1200 more overall.  

I like the hybrids because I mine in my basement near my office and I don't want a ton of noise, so I think (hope) the hybrids are quieter.  I also believe that they run cooler and will have a better shot at being reliable.  Finally, when it's time to retire them I think they might be easier to sell.

What do you all think about that?

hybrids are much quieter then normal gpu rigs

and you can swap the  fans  to get a little quieter.

enjoy this build

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2642628.0


here is a card for you to buy

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card
Good choice  Smiley  That's the card I bought for my first rig.   Smiley Smiley

I have 4 of these in my second build
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR

Like them a tiny bit better.  They seem a little bit quieter than the Corsairs and hash a little better (although have not been up for a whole week yet).  Also like that the fan power lead is integrated into the card.  On the Corsairs I had to buy a little fan controller to plug all 4 into my mobo.

Could be the radiator fans aren't turning as fast on the EVGA.  Those cards are about 46C while the Corsairs are at 40C.



I purchased corsair fans an put them on the evga's as I like the colors

I have most all of the evga hybrids

and most all of the msi seahawks
22102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 25, 2017, 03:14:55 AM
I want to buy 8 more 1080 Ti by the end of the year.  My first 8 were hybrids (two rigs with 4 each).  I'm thinking that's a better strategy.  But the lowliest EVGA board is almost $150 cheaper.  That's $1200 more overall.  

I like the hybrids because I mine in my basement near my office and I don't want a ton of noise, so I think (hope) the hybrids are quieter.  I also believe that they run cooler and will have a better shot at being reliable.  Finally, when it's time to retire them I think they might be easier to sell.

What do you all think about that?

hybrids are much quieter then normal gpu rigs

and you can swap the  fans  to get a little quieter.

enjoy this build

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2642628.0


here is a card for you to buy

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card
22103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 25, 2017, 03:02:05 AM
@ yankees  

Many  people are into aggressive clocks.  

This build  can do 4300 sols  instead of 4025. .

but the last 275 sols  cost  200 watts.  

I would need do 75+120+120+120+120+200+200+200= 1155 this would be  about 1260 on the kwatt meter

instead of          61+104+104+104+104+165+165+165= 972   this reads 1060 on kwatt meter


So instead of a perfect build  or close to perfect build  if you do mellow clocks  some miners  believe  that squeezing out that last 275 sols  even at the cost of  200 watts  should

be done.

All of you who read this  that mine that way  its cool  keep mining that way justify  it anyway you want if  that works for you.

I do not want to stress the mobo  or the pcie cables  so I stay happy with my lower clocks.
22104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 25, 2017, 02:35:09 AM
I am skeptical on the sturdiness of onda boards...we'll see, I still prefer good quality gaming boards because manufacturers did make sure they are built durable..I recently bought second hand ~ 160$ z170 sabertooth (enthusiast are upgrading to z370), still have 4 years warranty from asus..........after I bought it i come to realize WTF!! thinking I got a ~8 year old s775 motherboards mining for 4years already which only cost me 30$ each

i love my onda b250 d8p v1. as for longevity, we will see but its rock stable for me so far.

"gaming" boards are more about cpu/memory power phases and stability (for those monster OCs), better sound, "optimized" networking etc. stuff that mining boards do not need. miners are a different beast. all they they need is full size slots, decent spacing between slots and a BIOS that caters to multi gpu configs. basic power delivery to the cpu and memory is fine as no one is going to oc the cpu and memory (well maybe cpu miners but then get a gamer mobo for that).

back in 386/486/pentium/p2/p3/p4 days boards were very basic, and i had rigs that ran for pretty much for years 24/7 and they were still running when i retired them. and basic is all a mining board needs.

the gaming boards i bought wasn't so extreme....I was just going for solid/good capacitors, I've seen problematic boards back then with bloated/leaking caps.

gaming boards are sturdy, not too thin...maybe they can also handle mining room heat better with their heat sinks, even though they are not overclocked, GPUs are heating them.  

only gaming boards have 4-5 pcie sockets around 2007-2009..........so obliviously they are my pick

if you use the ONDA B250

in the spotswood build

the board does not see that much juice.

At this point  The   kwatt meter runs at 1060 watts.

Most of that  enters into the gpus via the pcie connections.

I doubt that the 8 slots see  320 watts.
It is why I prefer the Onda B250 and the  3 molex plus 3 sata connects to the mobo.
Note the Tokamok 1500 watt Platinum has  6 cables  for  the molex and sata connects.
It has 6x  2 headed pcie cables that are 16 ga.
3 feed  3 1080tis
2 feed  4 1070tis
1 remains empty
I Photoed a lot of  the boards build .   see link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2642628.0





22105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Spotswood case 8 card build = nice on: December 25, 2017, 01:35:21 AM






Screen shots of it on smos





22106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Spotswood case 8 card build = nice on: December 25, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
Hey if you want to see the spotswood build on youtube



links are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feXukc1d39Y




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIG9oebnW0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIxWgv-rsuE



I am missing link from spotswood for the case.
@ spotswood  could you give us a link for it.

case/frame link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2491321.0

parts for it:

frame from spotswood

A) rosewill tokamak 1500 watt titanium psu --------------- 1 unit
B) msi seahawk 1080ti--------------------------------------- 3 units
C) evga 1070 ti hybrid---------------------------------------- 4 units
D) asus 1050 ti ----------------------------------------------- 1 unit
E) silverstone 8 pin pcie extenders -------------------------- 4 pieces
F) cable matters 6 pin pcie extenders ----------------------- 2 sets of 2 total of 4.
G) velcro ties -------------------------------------------------- 1 pack of 50
H) fan Splitter ------------------------------------------------- 1 set of 2
I)  blue fans 120mm ------------------------------------------ 2 units
J)  red fans  120mm ------------------------------------------- 2 units
K) grills 120mm ------------------------------------------------ 15 pack
L) red fan 140mm----------------------------------------------- 1

intel g3930 ------------------------------------------------ 1 unit
samsung ddr4 4gb sodimm ------------------------------ 1 unit

A)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182384

B)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137126

C)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487390

D)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126170

E)   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B46XKJW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?

F)   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DV1Z4EQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?

G)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N8T4L07/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?

H)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GNT8MEM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?

I)   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L64O63G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?

J)   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KXXRCK0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?

K)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y20QI0K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?

L)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6S0XL2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?




note newegg is out of stock for the g3930
and for the ram  so I listed 3rd party below

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V5879236
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117748
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIACWT5AT9945


if you want riser less boards read below.








My plan Was to have 1070ti GPU's on them with the hybrid water cooling from EVGA.
I upgraded to 3 msi 1080 ti seahawks
and 4 evga 1070 ti hybrids
plus 1 asus 1050 ti



if you do smos  you can use a g4400 --------  I used a celeron g3930   I plan to test  with other cpus as time goes on

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80662g4400~7ITEP46W.htm


if you do windows I say go for  more
http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80677i57400t~7ITEP5R5.htm


ram  

smos/linux a 4gb is good
  
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232145&cm_re=4gb_sodimm_ddr4-_-20-232-145-_-Product



windows 10 an 8 gb is better


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232153&cm_re=8gb_sodimm_ddr4-_-20-232-153-_-Product


I gave my  aliababa link out in this thread.

about 179  shipped to usa using paypal  for 1 sample

about 1430 - 1500 shipped to usa using paypal for a 10 pack


tell sidonia I pointed you to her.  philip  from howell new jersey 07731


Phil,
Your frame for the Onda 250 board is on its way to you.







If you want the frame contact spotswood  he has them .

I will not be ordering anymore boards for sale

I made 8 to 10 dollars profit on each onda b250 sold .

I ordered 21
and sold 15 kept 6.

so about 140-150 profit I had 1 rma for 170 so I lost  around 20 or 30 dollars doing this.

I let buyer keep the dead board as was the only one  that I shipped outside the USA.


My source on alibaba Is :

Sidonia Huang

2017-12-09 07:12


Dear Philip,
 
The 12*PCIE version mining board will be ready around 15th,December Smiley
 
Pls kindly check how many pcs you need?
 
Best regards
 
Sidonia

_____________________________________________
______________________________________________

Here is the pricing she did for me:

1 sample is about 179 to the usa using paypal
a 10 pack is about 1500 to the usa using paypal


https://leiqing.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.8443308.0.0.88Krq1

https://leiqing.en.alibaba.com/product/60707942149-803390961/China_New_Top_Sell_Bitcoins_Mining_Motherboard_With_12_PCIE_Ports_B250_Chipset_Intel_Manufacturer.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.89.3.36b10622hDun4L



22107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 24, 2017, 09:03:49 PM
AFB line Delta fans are a lot quieter than the famed FFB line fans and their derivatives - AFB are a "whoosh" of the air moving, not a "scream" of the many-bladed prop interacting with the many-bladed flow director.
Innosilicon used AFB line fans (but the HIGH END ones) on the A2 and they're not quiet but they don't "scream" from 2+ rooms away.

AFB fans also have a LONG lifespan at high temp 100% speed operation - not quite up to the old Rotron Muffin series but the Deltas are also moving a LOT more air and spinning at a lot higher RPM.


 And now for some MAJOR wierdness - anyone else notice that 1070 prices on Newegg are THE SAME OR HIGHER today as 1070 ti prices?

 Anyone have a clue why 1070 prices would JUMP by $50 or more over the last couple days?



Running out of them?
22108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: December 24, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Hey Guys, happy holidays!!

I'm setting up a 4 of these guys for a friend. The latest drivers seem to install successfully. I left the Start_Moonlander2 batch info as is, just to test that everything was working correctly, before I edit the pool info..

It doesn't seem to start mining, the command window comes up and when i press 'any key' it closes without really getting into the bfg miner window. Any ideas?



Guys you really need to start reading the first 3 posts (that included the FAQ section which has the answer to this question) in this thread before posting. The thread is already over 30 pages long and does not need to be cluttered with posts like this. Your wasting your own time by not reading the basics first, and making it hard for people with real issues to find an answer.

Quote
Q: Im using windows and nothing happens when i click the start_moonlander.bat file
Your anti-virus software most likely deleted bfgminer.exe when you extracted it. Make sure you setup a rule so it does not do this.


make a folder on you desktop
mining software
make a folder inside it call it
call it virus  allowed zone


go to your antivirus

exclude both folders from the virus protector/


download software  and  put it directly into  virus allowed zone


so you have a nest

desktop-mining software -virus allowed zone-bgminer


open bgminer and it will run and not  be deleted 
22109  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: December 24, 2017, 05:49:15 PM
https://twitter.com/jsamulaitis/status/944772041340841984 just throwing something in here..hopefully we can see something...

Edit: It looks like he deleted his tweet... He tweeted that in few minutes he will post video of Dragonmint...and reposted again...and deleted it again.....fishy..

It is not fishy.  they got millions in preorders cashed out the coins.  and laughed all the way to the bank.

Once again I will offer them to post here and send me a working unit.

Which I will pay for once it arrives.

I will demo it  on youtube
I will  do a long thread here.

As of today no pm's from them
no emails from them
and no postings here from them.

I and truly sorry for those that sent them money.

But they banked on orders from people and seemed to have gotten many orders.



To quote the Donald: "Sad so very sad'
22110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: inexpensive motherboards for mining on: December 24, 2017, 05:02:29 PM
Last board is definately interesting and theprice is right.

Are there any 8 gpu boards that are reliable?  I was thinking of doing 24 gpus and using 4 machines, but of course 3 machines would be better.  The reviews seem all mixed for 8 gpu boards though.

the ones  I used to build this are good.  not great but good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtnz9ip3o8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feXukc1d39Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIG9oebnW0
22111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: December 24, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
Plowed through 33 pages of this thread . .  Is there a "general" hub that is recommended for running multiple sticks?

there are a few good hubs  all over 100 bucks

The beast I have this one

 https://www.amazon.com/Eyeboot-Port-110-120V-amps-port/dp/B01EB33JOK/ref=sr_1_7?


this is good

https://www.amazon.com/Sipolar-Industrial-Charger-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01KPOEX9O/ref=sr_1_1?
22112  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: December 24, 2017, 04:45:31 PM
Has anyone tried to buy s9 asics from Alibaba? Are the sellers there trustworthy?

yes there are good sellers.

but insist on paying with paypal.

I purchase and use paypal.

costs me 5% extra

but I get paypal protection


Never never never never buy from them if they do not take paypal.
22113  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: How to tell if an Antminer S9 is working? on: December 24, 2017, 04:43:33 PM
Thanks a lot for moving that Shazam!

I can take my laptop and test it, the problem is that I'm not sure how to test it, I have no pool or previous experience with them. Sorry for the completely newbie question Sad

Okay  here is some help.

It uses  DCHP  to find an address on the router it is working on.


So routers can be:

192.168.0.1
192.168.1.1
192.168.2.1
192.168.10.1

and a few more

when you go to his house

have you laptop  loaded with advanced ip scanner

link is here:

http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/?utm_expid=62919999-60.UcBcCTpjTDqJ-vnvKV9_rw.0


test the scanner at home  scan your network

it will show the devices in your home on your router

go to his house  and  have him run the s-9

scan his network  and it show the address of the s-9


lets say it is 192.168.1.126


type that in and open  the   gui

root
root

will get you in


you will see the gui.

it takes up to 30 minutes to mine

but at least you will know you can get into the controller

bring it home  put in a mining address and run it.
22114  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Buying all your (USED/PRE-LOVED) S7 & E9 Mining machines on: December 24, 2017, 04:34:15 PM
Hey guys.

I am looking to buy all your second hand S7 machines.
Provided it is still in good condition and not damaged.
I’m from Malaysia and the name is Fariz.
Contact me at:-

WhatsApp: +60122856777 or;
Skype: Farizfadzimi



Does not belong here.

Belongs in marketplace

I asked mods to move it to the section below:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0
22115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 24, 2017, 04:03:59 PM
found a deal  on a new rx 580 8gb


at amazon it is 348
https://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Radeon-Graphics-RX580D58G/dp/B075L1R636/ref=sr_1_3?


but straight from the dealer it is 299 with free shipping


http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/diamond-amd-rx580-video-card


Specifications & Features

Bus Type: PCI Express 3.0 x16
Memory: 8GB GDDR5
Base Clock: 1340 MHz
Boost Clock (DPM7) 1340 MHz
Memory Clock: 2000 MHz (8.4 GBPs) Memory
CrossFire: Yes up to 4GPU’s, No Interconnect Bridge required
Direct X Support: 12
Open GL support: 4.5
GCN Architecture Yes (4th Gen)
PCI Express 3.0
Cooler: Dual slot fansink
Stream Processors: 2304
Max Power Delivery: 170W
Target Operating Temp: 80 Degrees Celsius
4K resolution Yes
DisplayPort 1.4 HBR Ready: Yes, 3 standard
1920x1080@240Hz, 2560x1440@192Hz, 3840x2160@96Hz<br< a=""> />• HDMI 2.0b ® Yes, 1
1920x1080@192Hz, 2560x1440@96Hz, 3840x2160@60Hz<br< a=""> />• Premium VR Experiences
Gamer Optimized
FinFet 14 Technology
Vulcan Support
Virtual Super Resolution support (VSR)
AMD Liquid VR
AMD Freesync
DirectX 12 Optimized

Package Contents

Diamond AMD RX 580 8G graphics card
Quick Installation Guide
Installation CD

Diamond AMD RX 580 PCIE GDDR5 8GB Memory Video Card
Product Code: RX580D58G


Availability: In Stock
$345.88
$299.99 & Free Shipping


and final video of spotswood build


Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/xIxWgv-rsuE
22116  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S-9 Power supply on: December 24, 2017, 07:49:19 AM
Finally got my S-9 and its up and running.  I just ran a two new 20 amp circuits but my question is my bimain power supply is wired for a standard 110 volt plug.  How to I set this power supply up to run 2 phase 220?  According to the spec I can pull 1600watts at 220 but it only has 3 connections.....ground, neutral, and hot.  Thanks

hot - hot
 ground




22117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 24, 2017, 03:57:52 AM
Phil - what site do you like to purchase your cards from ?

Amazon
Best Buy
Diamond Multi Media --- Had some good Amd deals last winter.
Ebay
Evga
Fry's

http://galaxstore.net/

Micro Center
Newegg
Newegg Business
Provantage
Superbizz



Last to mention is corsair web site  which has the msi 1080 ti  hybrid

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-gfx-gtx-1080-ti-liquid-cooled-graphics-card


I look at all of the above

And I look at :

http://bhphotovideo.com/
https://jet.com/
https://www.rakuten.com/


What ever has the best deal for a card I use.
22118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 24, 2017, 02:06:00 AM
If you're looking for some nice fans for interior living space mining rigs, we have used these on a couple of rigs and I like them allot. Very quiet for the amount of air they move and a 6 year warranty.  Pretty cheap too all things considered.  They are not industrial Delta screamers but they have done the job for a rig of Rx 480s as well as a mixed rig with GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080 Ti in it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835186079

53 cfm = too low


the  scythe do 133 cfm.

most of my gear is water block  from evga  the hybrid's



I wouldn't use the 53 cfm fans on a radiator, more force is better there, but 133 cfm is pretty loud to have in your bedroom or living room imo. The Arctic F12s have kept our Rx 480 rig in the 70s and our mixed Nvidia rig in the 50s/60s temperature wise (summer temps they're abit cooler now in winter) and not been noticeable noise wise. I think they have their uses in a living space setup...

yes they do.  and can work  in some spots.

for me the scythe ultra kaze are running at 8.5 volts  and don't move 133 cfm  maybe 90 cfm  and they are in the attached garage.

I only run  a lenovo m700 tiny in the basement den  it has 4 compac sticks and  xmr mines   with a i7 cpu.
setup is whisper quiet and runs on 90 watts or less.  2 kwatts a day  costing 25 cents  and the xmr earns 1 dollar the compact sticks are pointed at bravo-mining pool

and could get a nice bonus if they hit a block  plus  they earn a few bucks a month

the garage setup is quiet enough to  allow the door to me open  and warm the den and the house .

ambient noise in the den is under 50db.
22119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 24, 2017, 01:46:19 AM
If you're looking for some nice fans for interior living space mining rigs, we have used these on a couple of rigs and I like them allot. Very quiet for the amount of air they move and a 6 year warranty.  Pretty cheap too all things considered.  They are not industrial Delta screamers but they have done the job for a rig of Rx 480s as well as a mixed rig with GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080 Ti in it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835186079

53 cfm = too low  nice price though.


the  scythe do 133 cfm.

most of my gear is water block  from evga  the hybrid's

they are really quiet. and don't need fans.

if I did more 8 card builds I will do all evga hybrid.

I have

3 + 2 = 5 in house rigs
3 big rigs 7+7+8     smos
a 4 card and a 1 card    win 10 

27 cards total
------------------------------------------
2 + 4 = 6 solar array rigs
two 3 card rigs
two 4 card rigs
two 5 card rigs

24 card total
___________________________________
____________________________________
3 + 0 = 3 office rigs  -------

these are two card rigs
6 cards total



14 rigs using 57 cards



I can add 4 cards in the garage
I can add 6 cards in the solar array

I have 1 card on the way.

I may order a few today or tomorrow.


22120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: December 24, 2017, 12:18:13 AM

I can't find the delta he says he has this is close

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAES6CK2798&cm_re=delta-_-9SIAAES6CK2798-_-ProductBrand: DELTA (Delta)

Model: AFB1212VHE
Size: 120 * 120 * 38MM
Voltage: 12V
Current: 0.90A
Power: 10.8W
Speed: 3200RPM
Airflow: 129.96CFM
Noise: 48DBA
Use of the environment: -20 ~ 75 °
Life span: 70,000 hours

but it is not as good scythe

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZH3S91539&cm_re=scythe_ultra_kaze-_-1YF-0015-00008-_-Product

Mfr Part Number: DFS123812H-3000
•Features?Silent to Power User Ready?
4-Pin Peripheral Adopter Provided
•Speed: 3000 rpm
•Bearing Type: Sleeve Bearing
•Connector: 3pin
•MTBF: 30,000 Hours
•Noise: 45.90dBA
•Airflow: 133.60CFM
•Rated Voltage: 12V
•Rated Current: 0.60 A
•Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 38 mm•Weight: 225g


The above delta is more durable
Both cost the same.

but  the scythe  uses 7.2 watts vs 10.8 watts

a difference of 3.6 watts  x 3 fans = 10.8 watts less  over its life of 30000 hours that is 300 kwatts of power for 3 pieces or 30 dollars at 10 cents a kwatt.  33 dollars at 11 cents a kwatt.

this means  a push or close to a push in price.

and you move 401.4 cfm for the scythe
and only 389.88 cfm for the delta.

the delta are louder  by 3 db.

I use a quality ham radio supply to run  my scythe at 8.5 volts  and they still move enough air very quietly.

they are on sale at newegg  12.99  free shipping


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZH3S91539&cm_re=scythe_ultra_kaze-_-1YF-0015-00008-_-Product


and get grills

low price

 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y20QI0K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?


high end

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010FAW5KM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?

These are the Delta's I'm running:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213005

  • 120 CFM
  • 44dBa
  • 5.52W (typical)
  • dual ball bearing
  • $17 (on sale right now)

So they move a little bit less air, use a little bit less power, and are a little bit less noisy, but cost a little bit more.  So yeah, the Scythe is a it a better buy, but they are real close.

i will buy a few of them  .  I have a place for them  thanks.
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