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2221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: October 28, 2022, 02:48:54 PM

Tottenham are top of the Champions League group D standings but Tottenham position can still be evicted by their rivals. Until the fifth matchday Tottenham were only one point ahead of Sporting and Frankfurt, while Antonio Conte side were only two points ahead of Marseille. Everything can still happen in Group D, Tottenham will face Marseille, who is at the bottom of the table, the situation in Group D makes all four teams have a chance to qualify for the last 16.

Tottenham must not lose against Marseille on the last matchday in the group stage, Antonio Conte's men only need a draw to secure a ticket to the last 16. While in other matches, Sporting and Frankfurt will beat each other for a ticket to the last 16, if Sporting or Frankfurt can win the match while Tottenham lose to Marseille, Antonio Conte men will certainly be eliminated from the Champions League.

Some groups still have the opportunity to shift positions, not only in group D. Milan, for example, they must be able to win the last game to ensure their position remains safe in position 2. Because, if the last game loses, Salzburg can still replace its position. These two groups will be the most exciting in the hunt for tickets to the knockout phase. I hope Milan is able to give victory for their fans.
2222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: October 28, 2022, 01:59:24 PM
It is a game from NoLimit City namely Karen Maneater, unfortunately it is not available in bk8.
As most other NoLimit City game, it is an extreme volatility slot but this one can be called as one of the lowest max win compared to other NoLimit City games.
The max win is capped at around 11,000+ (no more than 12,000x), while most other No Limit City games can be as high as 66,666x


Ah too bad I can't try it, because I don't have any other account on the platform other than BK8. But, for a big maxwin it's the same as PGsoft, but as long as I'm playing Pgsoft, the last biggest win from normal spins is not thousands, but only about 400x. Actually curious to play on other platforms, but sometimes I'm very lazy to create a new account. Grin
2223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: October 27, 2022, 04:43:10 PM
Roycilik retires? That's impossible LOL
It seems he is having something to do IRL or maybe he is focusing on other competition but he did not share it with us.
I tried to tease him by sharing my latest win some time ago, lets see if he will share his latest nice win or not later.
Here is what I shared to him:


Small bet but nice multiplier, and it comes from normal spin without free spins.

Yes, definitely not. he will not retire early  Grin. only lure him to share, since he never share the results for along time. Ha ha.

Congratulations on your win, this is a great win, from 0.1 can get 400+ of normal spins. But I don't understand the game you are playing, is this game also available in BK8 if yes, what the name of this game?  or are you playing it on Playbetr or some other platform?
2224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 27, 2022, 04:33:13 PM
if seen from the current situation juventus will play with a good performance and also it looks like lecce is not a balanced opponent against juventus and i think juventus can get 3 points from the match later

in terms of player quality, Lecce should not be an ideal opponent for Juventus. Moreover, Lecce's performance is also in a bad condition, the last 5 matches without getting a win and can only collect 2 points. It's very poor if Juventus are still losing to Lecce. If Juventus lose or draw, Allegri will be in very hot position to be sacked.
2225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: October 27, 2022, 03:58:43 PM
When the group matches didn't start yet I was pretty confident about Barcelona to qualify for next stage with Bayern Munich. I was even indecisive about whether they would finish as leader.  Grin  Because Bayern Munich didn't start the Bundesliga well and they were lacking a striker. But now things are completely the opposite.

Barcelona are just in a really interesting situation. They are doing good in the La Liga when we take the results they have got in general so far. But they just can't reflect the same performance on bigger matches in the Champions League. They collected only one point against Bayern Munich and Inter in total. Can you imagine how horrible statistics this is? I wonder what Xavi is thinking about this situation. But clearly he doesn't intend to change anything in the team for now.

It's true, what happened to Barcelona was very surprising in the UCL this season, even last month someone said that Inter Milan would not be able to qualify for the knockout round, but my prediction can still be proven, because at that time I saw the distance between Inter and Barcelona. not far. The defeat experienced by Barcelona will certainly be an important lesson for Xavi, because his players still have many weaknesses which could be these weaknesses also occur in La-Liga in the future.
2226  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: October 27, 2022, 03:45:19 PM
Memang semenjak bulan oktober TF 1 D garis BB berdekatan dan ini menunjukan tingkat votalitas BTC tidak besar. Jadi memang tidak ada news baru tapi secara teknikal saya setuju dengan om, sudah over sell. Kenaikan suku bunga menjadi isu paling kuat menuju akhir tahun yang di prediksi akan mengalami resesi. Tapi jika saya membaca di Cointelegraph ada prediksi bahwa the FED akan bersikap melunak atau mungkin berbalik arah.
Agenda selanjutnya FED tanggal 1-2 November adalah kegiatan rapat Komite Pasar Terbuka Federal (FOMC), keputusan kenaikan suku bunga

Sumber: https://cointelegraph.com/news/why-is-the-crypto-market-up-today

Kemarin saya sempat membaca beberapa artikel mengenai kenaikan kemarin, selain dari yang mas bagikan ini. Di blockchainmedia misalnya, di sana disebutkan kalau sentimen datang dari keputusan bank sentral Kanada. Saya tidak begitu yakin dengan perubahan harga kemarin karena hal ini.

- https://blockchainmedia.id/mengapa-harga-bitcoin-tiba-tiba-melonjak/

Selain itu, ada dari komentar dari seorang trader yang diliput Bisnis, menyebutkan kalau jumlah BTC di coinbase semakin menyusut lantaran ada penarikan dengan total 48000 BTC dalam sepekan. Menurut dia, ini menjadi pertanda bullish, karena BTC pindah ke wallet pribadi tidak lagi diexchange. Terus terang ini juga tidak begitu meyakinkan saya, tetapi jika ini memang dilakukan analisa, dan benar-benar terjadi penyusutan jumlah aset di exchange lantaran dipindahkan ke wallet pribadi (misalnya), bisa jadi ini memang pertanda proses reversal sudah akan segera dimulai.

https://market.bisnis.com/read/20221026/94/1591593/harga-bitcoin-naik-ke-us20000-imbas-rapor-hijau-emiten-wall-street
2227  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Masa Depan dan Harga shibaInu on: October 27, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
Ane kira keuntungan yang didapat hanya dari google berupa downloader user kayak aplikasi game lainnya. Itu pun google punya batas-batas tertentu minimal, karena sepanjang yang ane tahu, keuntungan play store dalam setahun bisa ratusan trilunan, sehingga dari situ mereka akan memberikan fee kepada developer game baru supaya terpicu menghasilkan karya untuk diupload di sana.

Keuntungan playstore tidak menjamin keuntungan untuk developer mas. yang saya ketahui (koreksi jika saya salah) developer akan mendapatkan keuntungan hanya dari iklan adsense atau melalui in-app purchase. jika tidak ada user yang membeli, fitur misal untuk free fire, ada yang namanya diamond untuk ditukar dengan skin, nah inilah keuntungan mereka. Shiba Eternity juga memiliki produk in-app purchase tersebut, yang bisa digunakan untuk membeli kartu. namun layanan ini direct ke kartu tanpa diubah ke Shiba terlebih dahulu. kalau misalkan in-app purchasenya ke Shiba, maka masih ada keuntungan karena pengguna membeli shiba dan ditukar dengan fitur yang dijual. sayangnya tidak demikian.
2228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 26, 2022, 01:06:05 PM

What to expect from Ronaldo by Spalletti? I don't think Ronaldo will make much of an impact, maybe it will only add to Spalletti a new problem. His nature at Man United should know what will happen if he brings in Ronaldo.
I think it will be more trouble than profit. If Ronaldo's price is still expensive, of course it will not be worth the gain. I think Napoli are better looking for a talented young forward. It's not buying an old player who is starting to lose his best strength.
Ronaldo can bring more confidence for Napoli players. Also, italian league a bit have a slow playing rythm, so if Ronaldo join to Napoli, he can give a chance to bring trophy since with his skill and his performance, still applicable for Serie-A. Don't forget about money, merchandise sale can help their finance. The only problem is his salary, i'm sure maybe hard for naples to pay him.
2229  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: October 26, 2022, 12:22:47 PM
Just opened my BK8 account, and get a reload cashback from last week. Unfortunatelli i didn't get a single free spins from my cashbak. LOL. Not a good day to playing a slot for me today. Anyone don't forget to claim your weekly reload bonuses, maybe from your cashback you are getting a good win. This bonus only can applied if you are submitting detail.
2230  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: October 26, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
Harga BTC hari ini cukup bagus, entah apa yang membuat BTC menguat ke harga 20K+. Saya mencoba mencari fundamentalnya tapi tidak menemukan. Sepertinya kenaikan kali ini murni karena jenuh jual trader, sehingga bisa membuat BTC pull-up ke 20K+. CMIIW
2231  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Token] Anak Negeri $VCG (vcgamers) Apa Akan Sama dengan yang Lain? on: October 26, 2022, 12:05:50 PM
Sepertinya begitu mas, kemungkinan besar juga tidak banyak orang indonesia yang trading di sana sehingga selain itu tidak tahu prospek dan fundamentalnya. Beda jika mereka listing di exchange Indonesia seperti tokocrypto, dan entah mengapa mereka tidak memperjuangkan itu dulu dari pada di Bitmart.

Menurut saya sih ini untuk menggairahkan investor lokal, karena jika mendengar listing di Bitmart kan kayanya oke banget, global exchange. Meskipun listing di exchange lokal, ketidakjelasan utility dari VCG ini akan menjadi penghambat. Saya yakin akan sulit bagi investor lokal untuk langsung menjadikan listing di tokocrypto (misal) untuk pump, karena terlalu banyak token lokal "hidup tak sanggup, matipun senggan". Atau udah kena pump tiba-tiba anjlok dan sulit untuk naik karena volumenya kembali turun ke awal.
2232  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Masa Depan dan Harga shibaInu on: October 26, 2022, 11:57:36 AM
@taufik123 yap, game ini benar-benar game kartu biasa yang tidak ada korelasinya sama SHIBA token, NFT ataupun Web3. Ini yang saya lihat dari yang saya mainkan saat ini. Bahkan untuk in-app purchasenya sekalipun menggunakan metode pembayaran google seperti kita membayar untuk beli diamond di game-game tradisional.

Saya tidak paham betul dengan rencana kedepannya seperti apa, tapi sejauh ini tidak ada fitur burn shiba seperti yang dijanjikan. Jika mencoba bersikap positif mungkin sekarang masih dibuat seperti ini. Tapi dari segi game menurut saya membosankan. Tak salah memang kalau disebut game anak kecil.
2233  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Masa Depan dan Harga shibaInu on: October 25, 2022, 04:01:05 PM
Oh ternyata ane salah tanggap tak kira umur aplikasi, ternyata umur minimal anak. btw ini juga tergantung seberapa banyak yang download, menurut ane semakin banyak yang pakai akan membuat game semakin naik ke teratas, ini juga akan ,menguntungkan pengembang aplikasi sehingga jika mereka cukup jeli, keuntungan ini bisa diberikan dalam bentuk coin shiba dalam reward game, namun tdk perlu sering, misal dalam satu event game tertentu.

Saya sudah mendownload game Shiba Eternity dan yang mengejutkan adalah tidak ada fitur Earning alias bukan game P2E. Bahkan untuk kartunya pun bukanlah kartu NFT melainkan kartu biasa. jadi, sekarang saya paham mengapa komunitas protes dengan diluncurkan game ini. Kekecewaan komunitas adalah hal yang sangat normal, selain tidak ada keunggulannya, gamenya pun tidak menyenangkan sama sekali (buat saya). Ada yang juga mendownload game ini?  Grin
2234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 25, 2022, 03:52:39 PM
If we reflect on history last season's season we certainly understand that it was too soon for us to favor a team in Serie A as a candidate for the scudetto squad, when Milan, Napoli and inter were at the top at the beginning of the season many said that they could win the scudetto but in reality In fact when in the middle of the season they seemed to experience a decline in performance and eventually dropped out of the Scudetto path, I think the half time, is right time  to predict who deserves to winner scudetto.

Yup, I'm also not judging who the champion is for now. Because this is just the start of the season. We can see the formation of players after the January transfer. because often teams experience changes in performance after transfers because there are players who go and come, so this affects the team's performance. some for the better some of them getting worse.
2235  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: October 25, 2022, 03:44:39 PM
unfortunately now the minimum deposit via digital wallet is 150, unlike in the past, only 50 can deposit and enjoy the game, maybe it's not too bad, I haven't tried to make a deposit through a local bank, I don't know what the minimum deposit is by transfer, hopefully bk8 will update the minimum deposit be 50

For a minimum deposit of 150 is for services from Pay4Me. But if you want a smaller deposit, you can try the WePay service (QR payment). With this service you can make a minimum deposit of 20K.




That means I will say from my own understanding that they know method of their payment is working perfectly because sometimes he will deposit money in account and it will take more than 24 hours before it will reflect so for this to process within one minute I think I will say that is better or is faster in this particular platform and it is based on this is their new method of deposit or payment

So far, BK8 has never required a deposit of more than 20 minutes for the fiat deposit method. even by bank transfer. So, so far the deposit process at BK8 was good.
2236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you get over a bad loss? on: October 25, 2022, 03:30:45 PM
It's good that you were able to recognize where you went wrong in gambling. Self-assessment and acceptance is essential for you to move forward and break free from your bad gambling habits. Which in your case is chasing winnings despite its consequences. Increasing your bet over time doesn't necessarily mean that you would also win big. It all depends on probability and your luck. If you think you can win if you bet more and more, then you are wrong. It isn't always the case as every game is different in nature. Unless you are playing lottery, but the odds of you winning is also slim given the number of balls to be drawn.



what I experienced back then was not because I increased the bet. I still bet with the same amount. it's just that I do it in various ways in slot games. the method of buying the free spins and normal spins. But from this method there is no win at all. Then doing another deposit, and so on until a week has passed. That's when I realized that I was too stupid to think there would be a winning period at that time, so I used the money without thinking.for here i know if I wasn't playing for fun but playing without thinking to burn a lot of money lol.
2237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 25, 2022, 02:43:54 PM
Everyone thinks the same about Napoli's good start in the league. But we have seen many similar scenarios before, those who start the league very well can experience huge performance losses in the second half of the league. It is a great achievement that Napoli have never lost a game so far, but they will also play very difficult matches in the coming weeks. I don't know how long this situation will continue, but I think they may start to lose points Smiley

How not, 9 wins and 2 draw is an extraordinary achievement so far. so, it is very normal that many people are talking about it and make Napoli as a best candidate for champion this season. But, I agree with you, and yesterday I made a similar comment. since, Napoli are good at the beginning but often struggle in the second half of the season. This is an undeniable fact.
2238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you get over a bad loss? on: October 24, 2022, 04:53:54 PM
There's many thing you can do: watching a movie, have a vacation, playing online games, go to the party, have a sex etc.

Although big loss in gambling is really hurt, but gamblers shouldn't forget gambling is for fun. So they need to accept gambling isn't to chase money, the more you chase the more you will loss. This is why I never gamble with huge money for only one day, because I can't accept the amount I will lose for just one day.

Many people say gambling is for fun, but that is often not achievable. I often want to make gambling as entertainment. but. when I lost $100, I added $100 even in 1 week I lost a total of $1000 because of my failure to control every loss. Instead of quitting and stop playing, I assumed that if I was going to win, I would definitely win and so on. So without realizing that, I already spent a lot of money on this game which is said to be for fun. just be careful with a Fun, if we can't control ourself, it will be trapped for more bigger losses.
2239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 24, 2022, 04:43:09 PM
Napoli have been very lucky this season, while their performances have been consistent, other competitors have been inconsistent. Inter Milan and Juventus are struggling to get back into the Champions League zone, while Atalanta, who always sticks to Napoli in second place, has dropped to 4th place. Milan has started to crawl up and occupy second place, Napoli are still safe because they are still three points ahead of Milan. Napoli must maintain a consistent appearance, the Serie A journey is still very far away. Milan can take first place if Napoli cannot maintain its performance in the matches played. Victory is the target to keep its position in first place.


I don't think what Napoli have achieved so far is a luck. They have built a solid team over the last few seasons. If Napoli win this season, I think it is a very well deserved achievement for them. Considering the last few seasons, their performances have actually been very good, it's just that inconsistencies in the second half of the season made Napoli failed to get the title. If this season they are able to fix it, then it's definitely not luck. IMO
2240  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: October 24, 2022, 04:18:14 PM
I'm trying to make a deposit with this new provided payment method. However, the method I chose was a bank QR scan. The deposit process received quickly, almost the same as other payment processes, with an instant deposit process speed of less than 1 minute that has received to my account balance.
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