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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 29, 2023, 02:45:58 PM
If Roma win the Europa League, then they will get a ticket and there will be 5 Italian teams in the Champions League. Have you forgotten about it? It will be a repeat of what happened to the German teams this year - 5 teams received direct tickets to the Champions League group stage. By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I also don't understand this yet, but in my opinion, tickets for clubs in the league will be adjusted, there is a possibility that they will be given to one team under AS Roma in final standing. Since going to UCL is a prize for winning UEL, then the ticket that should belong to them based on the league standings will automatically shift to the lower team because if it is not given to the team below AS Roma in standing, won't the participating team minus 1 club?

I already trying to find the rule about this, but still not find clear information yet.
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 29, 2023, 02:18:18 PM
Roma and Sevilla have a great chance in the final game this time. Sevilla have secured victory many times in past finals. But this time Roma team has a great chance to secure victory.
This game is the biggest chance for AS Roma to get competition title after a long time not going to final UEL. Maybe this time is the great moment for AS Roma to have good history with winning UEL title. Sevilla maybe better with their UEL title history, but AS Roma players will not give the title to Sevilla easily, they will playing all out in this match. For Mourinho, winning UEL title can be a prove if he deserve to keep the "special one"  Tongue
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: May 29, 2023, 02:08:26 PM
Only self disciplined gamblers do s apply this method and stick to it. Having an already planned budget for your gambling gives you control over your money and helps you avoid financial waste in gambling that comes with the instinct of believing you're going to win if you try again, which leads to another trials after another till you're empty.

Exactly, there are a lot of gambler understand about this, but in reality while they are playing any gambling, they are forget about that. Their emotion lost control and making another deposit until they are sacrifice his hot money for gamble. People who get addicted in slots always thinking about the jackpot, but they are mostly lose because they are doing the same mistake manytimes.
1304  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 26, 2023, 04:34:46 PM
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Harga saat ini sepertinya cenderung mencari support baru yang mungkin akan menyentuh $25k seandainya kepanikan tak terhindarkan. Tapi semoga saja tidak dan saya harap pemulihan harga akan terjadi setelah koreksi hari ini.
Support 26K sepertinya akan menjadi support yang bisa menahan koreksi BTC. Jika dilihat dari indikator TF 1 jam dan TF 1 hari, sepertinya masih dalam masa trend naik. Pada recovery dari 26K ini, jika BTC mampu konfirm di atas 28K, mungkin kita akan melihat BTC retest ke 30K,  tetapi, jika pada posisi 28 K ini gagal break, maka BTC akan meneruskan fase sidewaynya.
IMO/CMIIW/DYOR/DWYOR
1305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Pi mining networks real? on: May 26, 2023, 02:56:40 PM
I dont know cant judge them by their looks. But obviously this Pi Network works like a ponzi its like the lyka gems that surround before and now its gone. Many scrutinize that project due to a lot of factors. Worse is Pi is being inclined as a blockchain project which clearly it isnt. Its like a centralized platform for using Pi but not really involve blockchain tech. So be careful to a lot of coomunity there, dont wanna fall on this.

I don't want to demean the citizens of my country, but in fact, older people, both women and men, mostly have no interest in crypto. If there are a lot of old members attending community meetings, chances are they are only interested in promises of profit. If they run a ponzi scheme, I remember the case that happened to the bitconnect community.

Well, I tried to visit Pi Network Indonesia facebook, look at this. Not much different, the participants are old people, why? because they are easier to influence so they can join PI. Cases of "multiplication of money" fraud in Indonesia are common and most of the victims are old people. The scheme that makes me suspicious of PI at the beginning. Even though there were also many young people, from several meetings I found the participants were elderly people who incidentally are very easily tempted by the lure of profit, getting rich and so on.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't gamble if you don't have patience on: May 26, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
In fact, we can enjoy slot games as a relaxation game, but only to relieve fatigue after busy work activities. slot games can be useful, if played according to the portion. I mean, without chasing victory.

Even though this type of game doesn't require a strategy, we can be entertained especially if luck is on our side. not infrequently, rewards from free spins provide good bonuses and can even get a jackpot. -snip-

yes, most players who play slots do not need any strategy. They think of this game as a bejeweled game, the main thing from them is to match the symbols and get money. and then makes players more often out of control with their betting. They forget that playing patiently will be far more effective than playing with emotion. Because this really becomes a deadly trap for gamblers when they no longer feel entertained because of the losses they have experienced.
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 26, 2023, 02:25:31 PM
castle is a big club but I don't know what the salary burden will be against Newcastle which is too big for Ronaldo on the other hand also he is old and it is still very difficult to compete at the highest level on loan later to Newcastle so for me it will not happen and maybe this will be a rumor oblique.

Today I read the news about plans from newcastle if they wants to create the "galacticos" team in EPL, that Newcastle is aiming to achieve in the next summer transfer market. There is no name Ronaldo in the list of targeted players, on the contrary, Neymar is included in this galacticos development plan. According to the news I've read, Mewcastle is ready to spend £ 450m for the upcoming transfer market.
1308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Pi mining networks real? on: May 25, 2023, 02:54:38 PM
It's a SCAAMMMM. The first time I heard about this scam project was several years ago, and now there is no news about the project or development. It's all marketing gimmicks and promises that you'll get rich when you buy, which is a typical definition of a Ponzi project. I would advise anyone not to attempt to download or use any service related to that project or attempt to promote it, you are trying to promote fraud and your friend or community will hurt you when they lose their money.

also, when you try to download this application, they collect and sell your data in order to continue their promotional campaign for this scam.


That's right, I found PI-Network in 2018, I also tried to trace back whether I was wrong or not. And I found github explorer for PI Network, and the first commit existed since 6 years ago. I hear form several group member in Indonesia that i joined, Here Pi-Network doing seminar few times, unfortunately I did not save the documentation from group member, one think made me don't believe about this project is, most of those who participated ini seminar look like is not understand crypto. For example, this one:

Source: https://www.beritabulukumba.com/nasional/3877843048/begini-keseruan-kopdar-pi-network-di-indonesia-siap-siap-cairkan-pi-coin

look at the people who attended the Pi-Network community meeting, it seems they are not people who understand crypto right, I'm pretty sure they are join this community because of tempted by the promise of profit and make them rich sooner. Indonesian old lady interested in crypto,  lol, Cool
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 25, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
I see that Newcastle is more suitable for signing Neymar, because the Magpies will play in the Champions League next season. Not only Neymar, Eddy Howe also had to bring in several star players to be able to compete at a high level.

I don't think Neymar will be a target for Newcastle, because Al-Nassr agree to give a chance for Ronaldo to join Newcastle if they qualify for the UCL in his contract clause on loan status. With the magpies qualifying for the UCL, maybe Ronaldo will consider returning to Europe. Now this become a headline from a lot of media. But, this is maybe hard to happen, because the contract with Al-Nassr is very expensive, if Newcastle has to pay Ronaldo's salary, it will definitely need a lot of money, do you think newcastle will sacrifice their money for Ronaldo?.
1310  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Dust Attack Pada Jaringan Bitcoin & Altcoin on: May 25, 2023, 02:11:00 PM
baru pertama kalinya ngelihat semahal itu biaya transaksi bitcoin sekarang. Saya juga sering melihat transaksi aneh tersebut di jaringan bitcoin.
Bahkan mereka tidak mengambil transaksi sama sekali dari mempoll bitcoin. hampir semuanya dibuat kosong dengan jeda kurang dari 10 block

Sekarang udah jelas, pada kasus $0.15 yang saya temukan bukanlah dust attack seperti yang saya curigai. Namun, transaksi $0.15 atau 469 satoshi bisa dikatakan sebagai representatif transactions untuk mengunggah NFT, Text dan token. Karena, jika tidak ada BTC yang dikirimkan, maka NFT tersebut tidak keangkut.  Lebih jelasnya bisa dibaca komen sebelumnya. Jadi, ini bukan lagi transaksi aneh dan mungkin juga kurang pas untuk dikatakan sebagai dust attack, mengingat ini bukan benar-benar untuk niat membebani jaringan bitcoin.

Akan tetapi, potensi dust attack pada bitcoin pun bisa terjadi, namun membutuhkan banyak orang yang beraliansi agar bisa menaikkan traffic bitcoin, seperti pada kasus membludaknya transaksi di Ordinals.

Satu hal yang memberi jawaban atas pertanyaan banyak orang yang mana ini pernah menjadi pertanyaan saya,
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jika seluruh bitcoin sudah dimining, apakah miner tetap untung?
, pada saat pengiriman BTC mencapai puncak transaksi, miner mendapatkan cuan dari fee lebih besar dari rewards subsidi. artinya miner masih bisa mendapatkan btc dengan value yang besar di masa depan.
1311  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: May 25, 2023, 01:46:18 PM
Mungkin memang pada sibuk di real gan atau mereka lebih suka baca daripada nulis. itulah bagusnya forum ini masih jadi titik acuan, dan saya liat ada beberapa member SFI baru yang ikut berdiskusi di forum ini .

oiya, ada salah satu temen bilang kalo IDnya di hack. cara balikinnya pakai email kah?
Sibuk real life dan jenuh dengan hasil bounty menjadi alasan yang paling sering saya jumpai. Sebenarnya, kalau mau ditelisik ke global, member SFI banyak kok mas yang aktif, hanya saja mereka jarang atau hampir tidak pernah kumpul disini. alasannya sih variatif, jadi saya tidak mau spekulasi mengenai ini.

Terkait akun yang dihack, selama email pada akunnya tidak diganti, bisa kok via email. Atau, bisa mengajukan banding dengan menghubungi admin menggunakan email yang digunakan untuk mendaftar pertama kali.
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't gamble if you don't have patience on: May 25, 2023, 01:41:12 PM
In the end slot games will indeed get someone addicted, even though they say we must have a way to stop when we have won or lost. From what I've experienced it's hard to stop when we are in a lucky spin and will continue to be encouraged to play because we expect another win, that's when everything ends in a total defeat.
Slots is a kind of gambling that can easily make users addicted (IMO). The fast circulation of money makes gamblers often lose control when betting. This is what makes many slot gamblers playing continously and increased their bet without being patient. In contrast to sports betting, or card gambling, the circulation of money is slower, a person can think before acting, whereas in slots, when betting is done, they wait for the machine to run and expect a win without knowing the odds.
1313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do not be pulled by the hype of meme coins on: May 24, 2023, 04:07:00 PM
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Therefore, we should not be tempted by the excitement surrounding meme coins. I believe that only those who get in early may reap some rewards, but this does not apply to all meme coins.
yup. Presale meme coins/tokens at pinksale are always the top trend every day. Those who take part in the presale or at the fair launch will get big profits, if the community succeeds in generating shillings for new buyers after adding liquidity to AMM. when the hype happens, those from pinksale will sell at least to tke the initial money, thus leaving a profit whether it goes up or down in their wallet. The rule always be same, If it goes up, they created FOMO with shillings on various social media, ifin  a few hours drop, they've managed to secure their initial deposit.

well, even during presale this meme sold out, as i say, its doesn't mean will be success. Take a profit while you can is better.
1314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been threaten to stop gambling on: May 24, 2023, 03:50:23 PM
If I were in your friend's position, obviously I would follow my wife's advice to stop gambling and tell the truth about the money that is made and spent in gambling, then I really have to regain my wife's trust from gambling activities, even though I'm a heavy addict, remember there are a thousand ways for men to do activities outside the home without their wife knowing, remember men are more resourceful than women.

Fortunately that situation did not happen to me. heavy choice.

Being honest is better because this will control the money will use to gamble. We know, if we gamble and access to money is in a men, maybe he will continue to make deposits when he loses. However, if he say the truth from the beginning  to his wife, even he is addicted to gambling, maybe if he can't stop, he asks to help control money for gambling every day.
1315  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Proyek Kripto Scam asal Indonesia on: May 24, 2023, 03:41:18 PM
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Kesimpulan diatas bahwa mereka hanya memanfaatkan popularitas untuk menarik minat dari sang penggemar atau investor lokal supaya membeli produk mereka, karena mereka merasakan yakin membelinya karena jika pada selebriti menipu akan mengorbankan karirnya di dunia hiburan, kenyataannya tidak karena mudah saja bagi mereka untuk melepaskan diri dari "tuntutan" investor dengan berdalih pada fluktuatif harga koin/token berdasarkan tingkat permintaan dan penawaran, padahal kalau dikaji mereka tidak menuntaskan roadmap dan bahkan produknya tidak memiliki kualitas untuk bersaing dengan proyek koin lainnya.
Inilah sisi gelapnya mas, jika dianggap scam tentu mereka memiliki dalih tersebut dan itu memang benar adanya. karena definisi scam adalah penipuan nyata, sedangkan untuk Asix dan Leslar masih sempat melakukan pengembangan bahkan memiliki likuiditas yang mendukung transaksi jual beli. Jikalau Asix delist dari Indodax, maka mereka akan memiliki alasan kalau proyeknya gagal. Leslar hanya memiliki likuiditas yang kecil saat ini, petingginya sibuk bucin lupa sama kriptonya. mereka pun akan berdalih kalau proyeknya gagal. Padahal, sedari awal memang sudah dikhawatirkan proyek anang dan lesti ini hanya untuk hype lokal saja dan tak bertanggung jawab untuk kelanjutan dari proyeknya.

Agak lucu sih kalau lihat si Anang, karena ia memiliki waktu untuk jualan live di tiktok tapi tak ada waktu untuk Asix. Jadi info dari mas @luzin itu bukan fake ya, karena pernah lewat fyp akun tiktok saya  Cheesy
padahal mayoritas fyp saya adalah mobile legends, tau-tau lewat aja itu si anang  Grin
1316  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: May 24, 2023, 03:12:02 PM
Saya juga termasuk member yang sering fakum gan, hanya sekedar baca baca postingan member SFI dan kawan2 saya yang dulu main bitcointalk juga sudah fakum dan ga tau mereka bakal balik kembali ke forum ini atau ga.

Kebanyakan member yang sudah vakum sangat jarang yang kembali terlebih jika niat awal mereka bergabung adalah  untuk mencari airdrop maupun bounty. Member yang bertahan saat ini kebanyakan adalah yang senang berforum bukan hanya fokus pada kampanye. Tentu kampanye juga memengaruhi, tapi saya sering melihat member yang tidak memiliki signature kampanye tetap eksis di forum ini. Artinya mereka memang senang dalam berdiskusi dan mencari teman di komunitas bukan hanya sebatas pada siganture, bounty maupun airdrop.
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 24, 2023, 02:54:57 PM
You are right, what happened to Juventus will have a very negative effect on the mentality and quality of the game going forward. How could they not, those who are already close to a Champions League ticket must be willing to let go of their position by getting the problem of point deduction sanctions. Any club that went through what Juventus was going through would be devastated. Even the players can lose interest in playing more after this incident.

in the next match, Juventus must face AC Milan. The Rossoneri are Juventus' rivals for a long time, even though they don't have the motivation to play because of the point deduction, I think there is still one chance that Juventus can take as a target, the conference league. Of course, it's not as big as the UCL or even UEL, at least conference league also become other big European teams competitions.
1318  Economy / Gambling / Re: BCGame Affiliate Program Issues on: May 23, 2023, 05:40:23 PM
Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.


The deposit bonus may not be removed from BC.game, because this promo is the most used and new members will trying the service with this bonus. When this promo is stopped, i don't think people who become affiliates will be able to get new members, even they get, maybe not for long time to use. Therefore, bc.game sacrifices their affiliates program, this is also not a good move, an affiliate is an unofficial marketing team for most businesses. And affiliates may be more effective in bringing gamblers to join than traditional advertising.
1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 23, 2023, 05:32:12 PM
Liverpool tried this season even though they could not get champions League football. Their supporters should be happy about still being in a European competition. They will meet different kinds of teams and it will be an embarrassment I'd they cannot qualify for the knockout stages even if they do not win it.

Yup, Liverpool have lost a lot of points this season. Finish in 5th position maybe not their target, but i think its much better, because they in trouble with their performance, many people even predict Liverpool may not qualify for the UEL. However, Liverpool managed to change this perception and managed to secure a UEL ticket. 1 match left, Liverpool must win this match even just for happy ending with a win results.
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 23, 2023, 05:24:00 PM
But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.
The sanctions are like a joke! If Juventus was at fault, why FIGC return the previous 15 Juventus points. If at the time the decision is not final, at least postpone the return of the points. I think, By giving another point deduction to Juventus, and only 10 points, this actually makes Serie A really worse. FIGC looks inconsistent with decisions like this.
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