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2261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: August 05, 2016, 01:28:54 PM
Rich people who are gambling doesn't have a problem regarding with their money because they can afford the losses. Gambling is not a solution for financial crisis, it is just a past time. The more you play, the higher the looses so you should play smart and limit your bets.

Of course they are rich so they don't even care if they are going to lose many times but it is still possible that they are going to lose everything when rage comes to them. Even they are rich they are not exempted into it. Better to be intelligent while playing gambling because for sure you don't know what's going to happen in the end.

Yup! I agree with you Even if they are the most rich person in the whole world, money would not last forever and the thing about gambling certainly it is a chance when you would win or not, what if his losing streak will occur that time then the worst case is he's thinking that his money would last because he is pretty damn rich, I think his million of money would only last for almost 2 years because nothing will last forever! 

There are two types of rich people that are into gambling and that are the most decent ones when it comes to gambling and they know on where gambling is going to bring them and they know their limitations. And the other is that they don't care even they are just keep on losing as long as they have enough money for gambling.
In simple terms, there are two types of gamblers the responsible and the irresponsible gambler. Regardless of our financial status, even if we are rich, we are subject to a big risk and an irresponsible rich gambler has so much to lose so they should not try gambling at all.
2262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 05, 2016, 01:22:24 PM
gambling is fix my life if i win, then wreck my life if i lose Cheesy

Well that is appropriate at all every time that a gambler wins for sure it is going to make him happy and going to fix his life, the question is for how long winning is going to make your life fix? What if you are just going to win one time for one month and you have won only small amount of pot.
I think that is going to wreck your life.
Fixing our life means a permanent thing and we know for a fact that winning in gambling is just temporary so literally it would not fix neither help us to improve, we should only believe that gambling is not really a big thing that would give us a positive effect in life but it is just an entertainment and more destructive once abuse.
2263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 05, 2016, 01:17:21 PM
How Will Westbrook & The Thunder Do This Year? Stat Predictions and Record?
I'm guessing 27 PPG on splits for Westbrook and a top 2 MVP finish. Thunder surprise people and take home 51 wins in a depleted west. Your thoughts?

No doubt westbrook will be MVP and scoring champ at the same time this season, without Durant, Westbrook can manage to have a triple double every game as he had previously done it in the past. Westbrook's athleticism is a gift for him something he can use to exploit his opponents.
if westbrook can get support coming from his teammates regarding to a good defense it will happen westbrook can carry the team in regarding to scoring dept but he needs more support for their defense area too, having that and a  good coach will make this for him, mvp is just there if he can make it to the play off.

Westbrook is all alone now in terms of leadership so somehow he can carry the will of his teammate. He can dictate their plays to be executed and I think this will be a good season again for the OKC even without KD's presence. Just a little revamp in all those remaining rumors on the floor.
and that's what he wants to take full control I think it will be a good season for him first harden now kd so it will be his own by now to take the lead and aim for the crown maybe to early but I guess we need to check it out.
I can't wait to watch their first game, I know westbrook will make his doubters believe in his upcoming performance. This guy was just underrated because the public think that he cannot carry OKC without durant, this will be a challenge to him and MVP loves to take challenges.
2264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: August 05, 2016, 01:13:33 PM
Hello everyone, so I joined freebitcoin about a week ago, I can afford to buy around 500-1000 lottery tickets. But when I see last round the first winner has just 120 tickets but other winners got 10000+ tickets, if I buy around 1000 tickets, will it be worth and is it like gambling? Will it be addictive? Guys please tell me that lottery is second form of gambling or not?
Lol lottery is gambling too, and those winners that only have 120 tickets and got the highest amount of winnings is just lucky unlike those that bought lots of tickets.

Exactly lottery is also a gambling too and if there is money involve or any monetary unit or currency and you have a chance to win for it.
Then that is really considered as a gambling too so if you are going to see it clearly putting your money in lottery declares that you are gambling too.
Lottery is fun to play because you will not be addicted to it due to your chances, when a person is not winning even do he keeps on betting he will likely lose his interest in gambling so I would suggest that one should focus on lottery though your chances is very low.
2265  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 05, 2016, 01:06:07 PM
Your only best and stable way to make a steady income is to work.
Not being on the computer 12 hours a day on this forum watching people type away their lives. But to go into the outside world and work for a living that is the only sure way you will make you financially stable and make anything of your life worth living for.
I don't know how the mod's do this all day long. They must be immobile where they are forced to sitting and being on the computer for so long day after day after day..  Roll Eyes

You are talking about day job,,but you know a huge number of jobs are relative with computer, i don't think that any good jobs are here which we not need computer, it is a technological time and every field need technical things like computer and laptop because it is mostly need-able things, so other jobs are only workers jobs are here where we don't need laptop or computer, but educated people need it. And in these days, if you want a steady income than you can't say no to use the computer.

That's completely correct, even me working at the office need a computer and cannot live without an internet, most of the information now is already in the internet and we are even lucky that we have discovered bitcoin and we are here now doing and good job having some kind of extra earnings.
2266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: August 05, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
Rich people who are gambling doesn't have a problem regarding with their money because they can afford the losses. Gambling is not a solution for financial crisis, it is just a past time. The more you play, the higher the looses so you should play smart and limit your bets.
Definitely not, because it will just worsen our current situation if we have the problem now. Gambling should not be the remedy to make money because it will not give us the money that we are hoping to make, the reality will always happen which is everyone loses in the long run.
2267  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: August 05, 2016, 08:54:23 AM
I think it might be a good time to use the bitcoin to buy Ethereum. The price of that coin is going high.
yeah, ethereum is a great choice right now because by trading it you can make huge profit, im trading it and i make like 5 per cent of my investment profit per day

Well thats a high income already 5% will make you 150% in the end of the month, i will use my altcoins to make some sport bets, i believe its the right time to make it as altcoins are depreciated.
Ethereum really is so profitable this past few days at least for us doing trading due to the big jump of price, we can easily make profit using a simple method of buy low and sell high because the price is so predictable.
2268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to go to US$800+ on: August 05, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
currently the price had dropped to 580$ so there is still some chances and right now elections are comming and everytime it also effects some altcoin prices so i can turn some other profit making ways to just except waiting for the btc price increase
Waiting for the price of bitcoin to increase is still doable this time, you don't need to wait for a long period of time in order to make profit. If you have notice how the market react after the big price fall back, you can tell that it is back to a positive direction now and we can make profit even for a short period of time just buying now.
2269  Economy / Economics / Re: How many coins did you have during the rise? on: August 05, 2016, 08:32:45 AM
My badluck i dont have that much bitcoins at that time...actually i was a newbie at that time and collecting from some faucets at that time and i had only few satoshies may be around 0.01btc after a lot of work

I think it is good time to buy the bitcoin below $600. Then we can hold them for the next 6 to 12 months.

Yes this is the perfect time to buy bitcoins as price has gone below $600 and that is affordable price for majority of us, so  buy now and keep it safe for the future to earn higher profits.
Definitely, do not let this opportunity slip away because this does not happen all the time, if you have and extra money for now you should prioritize buying bitcoin now over the other investment. Always remember that bitcoin is  a good asset that will appreciate its value in the future.
2270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 05, 2016, 08:26:51 AM
How Will Westbrook & The Thunder Do This Year? Stat Predictions and Record?
I'm guessing 27 PPG on splits for Westbrook and a top 2 MVP finish. Thunder surprise people and take home 51 wins in a depleted west. Your thoughts?

No doubt westbrook will be MVP and scoring champ at the same time this season, without Durant, Westbrook can manage to have a triple double every game as he had previously done it in the past. Westbrook's athleticism is a gift for him something he can use to exploit his opponents.
2271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: August 05, 2016, 08:16:45 AM
Eth is the btc "in case of"

Everytime btc gets in trouble by a security compromising event, people rush to Eth.  IMHO,  you should fireclay link Eth buy to btc price. When price is down,  directly buy Eth,  if your faster than the market you're one rich motherfucker !

hahah which ethereum are you talking about? ... it is such a mess right now, it doesn't know if it's coming or going, am i one? or am i two?, am I real??

I think he is talking about the ETH. ETC is just a pump and dump coins associated with the DAO hacker.

the only coins im holding is BTC & ETH , ETC was a nice little profit from that pump, ETC has no real use it is my opinion
actaully i bought more ETH at the deeps of .0166-1.70


The price you bought the ETH was quite good. The price is 0.019 now, so you have made 20% profit.
It's a good profit by the way and considering that Ethereum is so volatile with a huge increase and decrease we can always make a good profit if every time we saw a fall back we are willing to gamble our investment.
2272  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 05, 2016, 08:12:39 AM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.

if i would need them asap,i think i would try gambling with 0.01 bitcoin and see if i win or nnot,  since i wouldn't do crazy all in bets, maybe i would actually win some
LOL! you needs is not really that serious because the amount you are talking is not that big. And your idea is not good because you are saying that you will bet in gambling when you are in desperate need of money, I would tell you that does not work all the time because gambling is very dangerous.
2273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Prices are falling on: August 05, 2016, 07:58:10 AM
Its actually rising now. Its currenly $580 at this moment. I think it will rise again in days. We cant expect that to rise instanly. So while waiting for it to rise, its the right time to buy some bitcoin.
I will so happy if this increase will continue until it can surpass the price before the halving, with the amount of $800 being reach for this month is a good time to celebrate already and I believe it is achievable at this moment since the price is getting closer from its rally going up.
2274  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 05, 2016, 07:52:23 AM
investment is one of the best ways of reaching an steady income. but you need to be extra careful where you invest. if you can actually find something profitable to invest in, then you can make a good amount of money steadily.

for example this investment can be in your own business that you start and by expanding it you make an steady income over time.
Having your own business is the best way cause you will never be scam rather than just trusting your money online. However, you need to raise a decent capital to sustain your plan and if you have not steady income yet then working online is the best way to start earning.

I also believe that having your own business is the key to have a steady income. But before engaging into any kind of business, make sure that you know your business and it is your passion because you will not be able to sustain it if you don't like it in the first place.
yeah agree make sure that you're running a business that fits your passion because when you're working with your passion then you will be working with all out and of course the result will be good too. perhaps for the first year of business will provide great benefits, but if you want to keep working hard. Your business may be famous and you will benefit in every day
Making a business is something that I definitely recommend and I suggest everyone does or aims to do at some point in their lives, but it isn't necessarily the best way to get a steady income. A steady income would be a job that you perform each day, that has a salary. Starting your own business could end up with you having a fluctuating income, for one reason or another. If you can get your own business going, though, that is great.
No doubt that your job will give you a steady income but you cannot rely on your job all the time as being an employee we don't dream to have a steady status in life, the longer we stay in this world the more our needs increases so it is just fair to seek for a bigger income and you can only have that when you are having your own business rather than being employed to somebody else.

You're right im a government employee which is i do have a contract 3 months and then you renew your contract. As a employee (not a regular employee) you have a possibilities that you will be kicked out in your job . Yes it is steady income but it is not forever. It is okay if you gain some bits or little money but its forever you can gain it as long as you want. But being an employee you should have other work or side if incase you have been kicked by your boss!
You said right, even if we are an entrepreneur or investor we should not only focus on one business and industry respectively as we don't know what happen in the future so we need to ensure that if something goes bad which is unfavorable to us, we still have something left to manage in order to survive.
2275  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 04, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
It would be wise to not use it for now. The price for dollar exchange is way too low I would rather keep it for now and wait for the larger exchange. I wont do any transactions for now.

After such a price decrease, it's best to consider to not spend any coins at the moment "unless" you need to do so.

Price decrease that happened this year only last for short days or weeks since people are bagging coins to the price that can considered as "peak" of the price dip.
That's true, we only spend when the price is high so we have a greater value of our bitcoins and when the price is low we also consider that as an opportunity to buy bitcoins. I do usually spend my bitcoins last money because I believe I am getting better value of my bitcoins but I am not really a full time spender as I also have a little investment.
2276  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: August 04, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Same here, by looking the price of bitcoin now, i'm not gonna sell any coins for now. I rather to wait until the price of bitcoin increase again, because i'm sure  the bitcoin's price will increase.


Well what is happening with bitcoins price today is not really going to make me sell my bitcoins I'm going to wait again until the price is going to be at $670+ again. Because now the price of bitcoin is now at dropping and it is makes me feel sad that I haven't cash it out in a better price last week.
So, I am not really going to sell now.
Of course, that is the right decision, it is never a wise thing to do when selling now, the price is falling and we have no choice but to wait until it will rise again. Just consider this as a market crisis that we can survive if we will support each other altogether, we should stay calm and never panic and always think of the future.
The drop below $600 may also indicate a change from the bullish sentiment that has so far characterized 2016, the bitcoin's drop below $600 could indicate that the currency's long-term fundamentals are weak. so it good to sell when price rise and never sell in loss.
Losses are just paper losses until you actually sell them. If you the patience to wait for a price increase, then you might be rewarded in the long term. We all know that the bitfinex hacking incident was what triggered the downfall to $500. But looking in the short term, it has somehow recovered a little. Let us just wait what happens in the coming days and do what's necessary then.
The hacking does not really affect largely the whole market of bitcoins, I am pretty sure the price will be back to normal in the following days. Hacking is just a normal thing in bitcoins and since this kind of incident is not new to the supporters the trust is not really completely gone.
2277  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: August 04, 2016, 02:14:40 PM
The big problem of the instability though is the number of people afraid of it.

This is why no one is "all in" in btc.

No. It's not like that in my own point of view.

And besides average bitcoiner will surely goes for not putting all eggs in bitcoin since they have other things to deal with to support their daily life. It's not that they are afraid, they are going in a way of minimizing the risk.
Of course, who says we are all living and relying on bitcoin, we also have our real life venture and we know how risky to rely on bitcoins alone. The amount we put in bitcoin is just the amount we can afford to lose because the reward is so big which means the risk is also bigger.
2278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: August 03, 2016, 12:44:34 PM
Minimizing risks is a difficult task in business, sports and games, but it is possible.
well yeah, it will always be risky and in a longer run no matter what you will definitely lose all your money if you will not stop gambling at the correct time
We need to stop as possible if we are already losing more money especially when our personal income is affected.
We can play gambling or continue playing it as long as we just use our extra money and we lose money of the amount that we can afford to lose.
You are absolutely right, we should not put at risk our personal money not intended for gambling, the only money we should spend are the money we set aside for gambling, always consider that gambling is just for fun and we can never win that if we are just a typical gambler.
2279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: August 03, 2016, 12:40:48 PM
Yes, playing lottery tickets is same as gambling. The only difference is your input is less and chances of winning are huge. I have met people which consider gambling in casino bad but lottery tickets are normal thing for them. People are more open to lottery tickets than gambling and don't think it bad at all.
I am sorry but I don't think our chances of winning are huge, the only huge there is the prize and when the prize is too big usually it is hard to win that or our chances is too low. We bet low and the chances are low, that is for gambling, we need to bet big to win big and not the other way around.
2280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 03, 2016, 12:36:52 PM
You can get rich in fair Lottery. A bit of lucky and win jackpot.

Yes it can get the lottery jackpot, but only rarely. Maybe if want to get rich by gambling should make gambling sites and create a signature campaign to promote the gambling sites. If you have a gambling site you'll definitely have very many advantages that can become rich.
yes, IF we really have our own gambling sites we can be rich and I think those who have gambling sites are already rich before they start this kind of business. But yes, we can be rich if we are the owner of a gambling sites or gambling places.


Yes there may be some truth, the rich in gambling is one that has its own gambling sites. If the player who gambled very difficult for the rich because only through luck alone. It is hard for a rich gambling players in gambling.
You are right, it is really hard to become rich in gambling and the only one who has the big opportunity to do it are those owning a gambling sites because the more we lose the more they become rich. Well, maybe we just hard to accept that because that is life and that is what gambling are made for.
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