each WOF spin decreases your bonus while you are likely to only win around 35 sats on average if you exclude lottery ticket rewards as it has been said in uneng's thread. So if you want to earn 100 or 200 sats by free roll, it's not very interesting to spin your WOFs IMO.
Is that true? I though that only free rolls decrease bonus. If you are right it is one more reason to keep WOFs accumulating and roll them all at one when BTC price decrease base reward - as long as it is 50sats we may keep WOFs for the future. BTW FUN price is slowly decreasing, 37 sats now - just a effect of last days' BTC price ride. Yes WOF spins also reduce the bonus percentage, for me it's currently around 0.06% for each spin. I lose more than that with free rolls but my free rolls are above 50 satoshis currently thanks to the bonus, so I can't say if it's the same rate as free rolls and if I would lose this amount on free rolls if I was earning 50 sats by roll. Does anyone know if it's the same rate as a 50 satoshi free roll?
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And if you are able to make winnings on large amount of bets, you are very likely to be banned by Stake.
I'm wondering why you are thinking it in this way! No reputable casino will ban your account if you win on your large bets. They will only ban you if you do it by cheating. Stake or any other casino will lock your account if you continuously win on big bets with suspicious activity. They will unlock your account if your winnings are legit. 35 days has been passed since the previous monthly bonus time. I have wagered $390k+ within this 35 days. Does anyone know when the September monthly bonus will be released? Just look testimonies on askgamblers or here, without finding excuses like you seem to do each time. You've even claimed recently it's normal to be banned and to get its funds seized for having withdrawn its deposits a "couple of times" without wagering them. That's just insane for a customer to talk like that. Only shills would say that. Even professional licensed and land-based casinos exclude players when they win too often, so don't be naive about a crypto offshore casino. You've posted this link here last month to reply to rickmart's complaint, you don't remember it or you've changed your mind? Betting sites constantly analyze each customer’s betting activity to see what type of bettor they are. If a customer is deemed to be “low value” for any reason, then it’s likely that their account will be limited in some way. Some betting sites will even go as far as closing their customer’s account. Whether your account is limited or closed, this can be extremely frustrating. https://www.gamblingsites.com/sports-betting/online/dealing-with-account-limits/
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L'inflation continue à se maintenir à un haut niveau aux USA. L'IPC du mois d'août a augmenté de 0,1% en comparaison du mois antérieur et de 8,3% en glissement annuel, contre des consensus respectifs de -0,1% et +8,1%. Les actions et les cryptos accusent le coup. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Joli petit plongeon effectivement -6% sur BTC, -8% sur ETH l'avant-veille du Merge. Dans la dernière vidéo de Vincent Gane mise en ligne ce matin, il s'inquiète justement de la parution de ces chiffres cette après-midi, et affirme que de mauvais chiffres de l'inflation pourraient tout mettre par terre malgré une configuration technique haussière selon lui à cause d'un double bottom sur les derniers mois entre autres. C'était bien vu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6BytGThgI
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Let me take a guess..... you spend more than $2000 of your own money to wager that $332k.. right? How is a reward of $100 worth it, if you lost so much money trying to achieve it? Even if you multiplied it four times as you said..... then you still made a huge loss on it. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I do not chase these challenges, because it is basically designed to reward a few whales..... the rest of the people get a fraction of a percentage of the big amount. Yes, it is a little bonus... for the money you spend on the site.... but it is so small... that it makes no impact on your losses. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Reaching $332k with only $2000 of net loss is very difficult IMO. It's less than 1%, 2000 / 332 000 = 0.6% On which games do you have a such small house edge? AFAIK only blackjack is offering such a small one. But you need to be a very strong black jack player, who never makes mistakes. So I don't know if he is one of them but only few people are able to achieve that IMO. Guys, losing 1%, or whatever the house edge for the game you are playing is, is never guaranteed. Some times I wish I'd lost only the house edge and other times I'm in big profit after making just a few rolls. So, reaching $332k with only $2k of net loss is not "very difficult", neither it is "easy", it just depends on luck. You can be in profit of $1 million after wagering $300k. I'm pretty sure there are such cases. As you say you have been in big profit after making just a few rolls, but what about after thousands ones? I doubt anyone sane will gamble more than 10% of his bank roll at each bet if he's trying to reach such wager amount. It means 1660 bets (332k/0.2k) have been made at least with an average stake of $200. On 1660 bets you are more likely to lose the house edge than to make winnings because it's not a small number. And if you are able to make winnings on large amount of bets, you are very likely to be banned or restricted.
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I’m surprised how much you waited for those 1000 WOF !! I can hold until 100-200 spins and then I can’t stop myself from spinning them. Lolz. I’m impressed with your work in the securities. You have shown how FUN investment on freebitcoin is perfect example of long term holding benefits. I always knew that someone is benefiting a lot from 50k holding. I can see from your table that you have earned more than 21k plus 17k RP in single run. So with the on going compounding you can have even more and more benefits. Keep it up. Well it's not him who accumulated 1000 WOF it's ezeminer actually. But it's not difficult to do at all when you have some free roll bonuses because each WOF spin decreases your bonus while you are likely to only win around 35 sats on average if you exclude lottery ticket rewards as it has been said in uneng's thread. So if you want to earn 100 or 200 sats by free roll, it's not very interesting to spin your WOFs IMO.
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Of course, it is the abusers that are to be mainly blamed. But casinos being abused are also part of the blame even if they are innocent because they are supposed to make it clear that promotions are should be free from possible abuses. Fraudsters are everywhere and they will take advantage of every possible way they can.
This is also the reason why many casinos wanted to implement KYC. But another option is to let non-KYC clients gamble but exempted from some promotions that are difficult to track.
Don't be naive casinos are not poor innocent victims, and most of their promotions can't be abused by multi-accounts. If you offer 10% bonus on a game, there is absolutely no advantage in having several accounts. Wagering 5 mBTC on one account and wagering 5 mBTC on another one won't give you anything more than wagering 10 mBTC on one single account. Moreover many casinos are offering ranking bonuses, then cheaters are missing those bonuses by playing on several accounts. In addition, making profits at a casino is very rare, even with promotions and cheaters can lose their funds if the casino spots them. So I don't believe them when they claim to be abused like that. In most cases, it's a free excuse to ban or to restrict accounts of winning players.
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J'avais entendu ça à la radio, mais ils n'avaient pas précisé que c'était ces gens qui étaient derrière ce projet. Je comprends assez mal l'intérêt pour les habitants et les réfugiés à vrai dire. Ces habitants semblent ne pas en vouloir et ces réfugiés, si ils voulaient s'installer dans un village à la campagne, ils y seraient déjà car ils sont déjà libres de s'installer là où ils veulent à ma connaissance. Ca ressemble donc plutôt à une espèce de tentative d'introduction artificielle d'une nouvelle population à la campagne, comme on le ferait avec des animaux. "On a réintroduit le loup et l'ours alors pourquoi pas les réfugiés?" Ils semblent bien déterminés à enrichir et diversifier d'autres villages en tous cas De son côté, l’association et le fonds de dotation envisagent déjà de dupliquer ce « modèle » à d’autres régions. Prépare les barbelés LeGaulois, ils arrivent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaWsgBbFsA
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Thank you for commenting your bets with honesty including the losing ones, this is very interesting. I don't know if you have already read this story about Bill Benter, this is one of the craziest story about gambling I've ever read. Bloomberg has even shot a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B0mGYZqEloThe story starts like that. Veteran gamblers know you can’t beat the horses. There are too many variables and too many possible outcomes. Front-runners break a leg. Jockeys fall. Champion thoroughbreds decide, for no apparent reason, that they’re simply not in the mood. The American sportswriter Roger Kahn once called the sport “animated roulette.” Play for long enough, and failure isn’t just likely but inevitable—so the wisdom goes. “If you bet on horses, you will lose,” says Warwick Bartlett, who runs Global Betting & Gaming Consultants and has spent years studying the industry. What if that wasn’t true? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/the-gambler-who-cracked-the-horse-racing-codeEven if it's a bit exaggerated IMO - my last bet is a winning one (Rajapour winner of Chantilly R7 @1.57 yesterday) for example. It shows how hard it could be to make good predictions on horse races I think.
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So that's why the Bills were so favored in the second half even though they're up by a touchdown, and the performance by the Rams was indeed horrendous they had so many chances to turn it around as both teams are struggling to maintain possession. Also can't wait for the games later today as i've got a five-leg multi ready to go with all of the favorites (Ravens, Colts, Saints, Dolphins, Eagles) that i'm confident on and I bought a point in their handicaps since there might be a team that'll probably fail to cover. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What do you mean by "I bought a point in their handicaps" precisely? Well they are maybe favorites initially but with such handicaps I wouldn't say that anymore, @1.94 for Baltimore Ravens (-6.5) I wouldn't call that odds of a favorite outcome. You may have 50% chances to lose this leg IMO. I hope you have taken the 5 legs insurance at least but I wish you good luck for your parlay anyway.
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You sure have selective reading/hearing. Here's what i have said. "Withdrawing after deposit without wagering is really an offense in most of casino who have AML policy, you should take note on that."
Then you asked. "Where have you seen in their TOS it's forbidden to make a withdrawal without wagering please?"
Well, no one said it's on their TOS, again it's on their AML policy, please comprehend. Again it's not written in their TOS, neither in their AML policy and you are telling fake news by saying the opposite. Again, if you were right they would just tell him he can't withdraw his deposit without wagering it one time at least, or before a certain amount of time. I asked you to quote the exact sentence saying it but you've just managed to quote a sentence about a software and freely assumed it means the same thing according to you... That is what op had experienced if you understand what you read in this thread. I really hope you're wrong because according to the thread posted by decodx, the amount is only a few hundred dollars. If a software is locking funds of customers for laundry, for deposits as small as that without any human review and explanations, it's very concerning. Stay on topic please.
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Read it again, no one said it's on their TOS its on their AML policy. And it is not fake news. Only those who doesn't know will say it's a fake news. I'm glad you are admitting having told fake news because you said the exact opposite above " That is why people really need to read the TOS and AML policy of every casino or platform before doing anything." Any KYC required and casino with AML monitoring software will do that the same. Since he mentioned that he deposit then just withdraw, then it's obvious a trigger to their software as alternative to mixer, and that's obvious fall on their anti-mixing measures. That's the most ridiculous scammy excuse I would have read, it's not their fault, they are seizing customer funds because the software they use told to do so.... It's not customers business what the "software" they are using is telling, and how it is set up, they don't even know what is this software and how it is working. Customers have a contract with a company and their representatives, not with a software. Courts convict and send to jail people, not robots. Like many casino's doing? Did casino tell its users that they will require KYC when their user is going to withdraw? No. Did they tell its users that they will be required to send their selfie holding a newspaper, ID, etc. while on the street for the KYC ahead of time? No. It's the same as that. Casinos won't tell you that don't do this and that coz you will be banned or something. You will only receive a message when you are banned because you did this and that.
LOL you should read this section less frequently and use honest casinos more often IMO, because only scammy casinos are doing what you are saying. Professional and honest casinos don't do that. They ask KYC and eventually ban customers if they don't like how they are using their platform but they don't lock their funds. The only exception is when there is a blatant cheat with an obvious damage. Because they have no right to seize any funds without a court order, it would be a theft. It's serious to be aware of this kind of scams and to defend them. You are a 1xbit advocate, right?
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That is why people really need to read the TOS and AML policy of every casino or platform before doing anything. They will send an email if there is an update regarding the change.
Withdrawing after deposit without wagering is really an offense in most of casino who have AML policy, you should take note on that.
Don't spam fake news in a scam accusation thread please. Where have you seen in their TOS it's forbidden to make a withdrawal without wagering please? Could you quote the exact sentence please? If it was forbidden he would have just get a message saying he can't withdraw his funds before wagering them, or before a certain period of time, like many casinos are doing. Here they have locked his funds without warning and are now requiring a top level KYC to give him back his own funds since he hasn't made any winnings. And what do you mean by "They will send an email if there is an update regarding the change." ? Obviously he hasn't received any mail from Stake which is not professional at all for this kind of thing and rather shady actually. I chat with Nicolas and ask what's up. He said you use stake for money laundering and ban me permanently without the ability to withdraw my funds.
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When we're into wager contests, the focus needs to be on increasing the wager. Most of the time people try to make some profit out of the same wager. This is where most of the time loss takes place. Further when the person keeps focusing on recovering the loss, gamblers find it difficult to recover and end up with the loss.
That sounds a lot like martingale which is doubling down on the losses which makes you poor slowly but certainly. A wise gambler should know when to leave the table. If you get stubborn on getting your money back, you will probably end up losing even more. Self control is everything. You should be able to control your emotions, your wallet and everything else. Once you lose your grip on any of these, it will be the beginning of your financial demise. I agree with you but having self control doesn't always mean "leaving the table" as you say. You can't always win, for example at slot games you need to lose many rounds before winning a big prize, it's the same thing at the roulette or when you bet on outcomes with high odds and it's maybe even more true at games with shoes like blackjack or baccarat. So instead of leaving, sometimes you have to tell yourself, it's just a bad streak, after it good cards or numbers can be drawn.
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For me, gambling is to bet on something that is purely unknown, when you learn about something, and analyze the results based on the knowledge you gain, it's far from gambling. However, trading could be gambling too, if you don't know what you're doing. You're blindly buying and selling without any clue, hoping you'll always get profits counting on luck. That's why I prefer to see whether it's gambling or not based on how we reach the goal. To get some profits, what will you do, use some of your knowledge or blindly trade, that will make a difference.
You're wrong because in many games there are ways to know on what you are betting even more precisely than in crypto trading. For example in sport betting probabilities of outcomes are way more accurate than the ones you could evaluate when you are trading. And in casino games probabilities are fixed and known unlike trading and sport betting, but you can have reliable forecasts in some games by counting cards, at baccarat or blackjack for example.
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Really? Would you be ashamed surrounded by people who do the same thing? Like a person who is naked isn't ashamed when they're at a nudist beach and other people are naked as well.
I'm not really ashamed to be naked when other people are naked as well, but many people are ashamed of it otherwise naturist beaches would be full of people. So I think it's the same for casinos, moreover not all people in casinos are addicted, there are even customers not gambling any money there, in addition to the staff. The first time I went into a casino I saw a quite old lady putting coins in a slot machine like a robot during hours, I wondered if she wasn't ashamed to spend all her money like that, without emotion nor reflection.
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I will speak from my own experience:
Until some time when I watched a soccer game, it was normal for a team to be winning by 2 - 0 and the odd was at @1.12 I thought: "if I bet and guaranteed victory" but to my shock and that when I reached 72 minutes the team that was losing the game managed to draw and win the game, it was something shocking. so I thought: " I'm going to start placing bets with odds of @1.50 and I could even win some games, but I only had to lose 2 games for all my victories to become useless, so I changed to odds of @2.00 and realized the following: a bet value is one in which the person knows that if he wins his effort to keep doing analysis it will be rewarded, and the person will be in profit in the long run
I've bet on so many matches that ended with a goal in added time or it come down to the penalties or one team was losing and then it scored twice in 10 minutes... You can never be sure of your bets unless it's an MMA fight of an experienced champion with some big guy that came from weightlifting with no fighting experience or like they put McGregor vs Mayweather. These things where you can be somewhat sure are rare though. Unfortunately what you are talking about doesn't exist, when the outcome has more than 99% chances to happen, bookmakers don't offer markets to bet on it or with odds of @1.00 only. It means you won't get any winnings by betting on it. A value bet is when you have more chances to win than what odds are saying. Then even odds of @2.00 could be a value bet. If you have 60% chances to win for example, a 1:1 reward is a good opportunity within value.
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(Je réponds ici car ça y a plus sa place) Avec la crise énergétique ainsi que le réchauffement climatique que nous vivons, n'y a-t-il pas un risque que Bitcoin soit ringardisé par Ethereum lorsqu'il va passer au PoS?
On va bien rigoler si un jour Vitalik decide de revenir au POW car "Zoom out!" 1. Ethereum will become carbon neutral, but Bitcoin will become carbon negative - many times over 2. ETH will have less environmental impact pre-2024 3. #Bitcoin is order of magnitude better from 2024 onwards ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FFcMFRyeacAEJfx_%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dsmall&t=662&c=qSLbeTpSZW1ZLA) C'est une projection et il faut se méfier des mecs qui font une droite avec 2 points et en tirent les conclusions qui vont de leur côté (c'est ainsi que le BTC devait consommer toute l'électricité du monde en ~2020), mais 2024, c'est demain. Bientôt le deflippening ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Le mec est quand même très très optimiste vis à vis d'une technologie qui est encore très récente. Si ca marche aussi bien qu'il le prétend, ca pourrait constituer une solution concrète pour Bitcoin effectivement. Mais la maison blanche l'évoque dans son rapport et semble moins enthousiaste que ça. https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/09-2022-Crypto-Assets-and-Climate-Report.pdf (P23)
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Well, transaction fee depends on the network website uses for processing withdrawal. Stake has added USDT recently and it was $5 fixed fee per withdrawal but after recent wallet upgrades, users can choose 3 networks for withdrawing USDT with $1 fixed fee. Casinos should stop expecting profit from transaction fees, they make enough with house edge, IMO
Yes I agree with you but I don't think they've lowered the fees by themselves. Because after adding the alternative networks, fees for withdrawing USDT were still at 5$ for any network. It's only after few people and me have talked about these shocking fees on their thread, they've lowered them to 1$. Many casinos don't take any fees for withdrawals, I think it should be a standard in the industry.
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I'm not a very strong bettor but currently I'm mainly betting on Sportsbet, they are covering a quite large amount of races across the world. Nitrobetting is also offering horse races bets but I didn't try them there, yet. I often see discrepancies between odds on sportsbooks and odds from the parimutuel pool of my country ( https://www.pmu.fr/turf/) So there are certainly opportunities of interesting arbitrages I guess. Which odds are the more accurate and reliable on average from what you know? Odds from bookmakers or odds from national parimutuel pools?
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