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2281  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Sulitnya Mengedukasi Masyarakat Untuk Menolak Amplop Para Calon! on: November 11, 2023, 09:17:52 PM
kalau kata pak prabowo kalau ada yang nyodorin kek gitu ambil aja, soal nyoblosnya ya pakai hati nurani sendiri. ane sendiri juga gitu pas pilihan kades, kalau dapat serangan fajar pasti ane ambil, pas nyoblos milih dia ? ya kalau semuanya jelek pilihlah yang jeleknya paling sedikit wkwkkw
jangan begitu juga, masyarakat jangan selalu ditipu oleh duit receh yang disodorkan oleh para calon jika saja masyarakat mulai memberanikan diri untuk menolak uang receh dari para calon lama -kelamaan mereka tidak berani lagi menyogok masyarakat. Ingatlah bahwa uang yang kita terima tidak sebanding dengan kibijakan yang akan kita rasakan dari para mereka yang menduduki jabatan pemerintahan selama mereka memimpin. Oleh karena itu pilihlah pemimpin yang jujur dan memiliki rekam jejak yang baik dan tidak menyogok rakyat dengan uang seratus-dua ratus ribu karena yakinlah pemimpin yang lahir dengan cara seperti itu ujungnya juga rakyat yang menderita.

Justru pada musim-musim seperti ini, masyarakatlah yang menipu para caleg. Dimana masyarakat mengambil semua uang yang diberikan oleh setiap caleg yang diberikan melalui timsesnya masing-masing.

Masyarakat hanya mencoba untuk memanfaat kesempatan ini agar bisa mendapatkan keutungan demi bisa memenuhi kebutuhan dirinya dan keluarganya. Saya setuju bahwa tidak ada pembenaran dalam prilaku ini dan tidak satupun alasan yang dapat membenarkannya. Akan tetapi, selama kesejahtraan masyarakat masih belum juga tercapai, maka yang namanya "Money Politik" sudah tidak dapat dihindarkan lagi.

Dan perlu kita ketahui, bahwa dalam permainan "Money Politik" itu, tidak ada yang namanya sebuah sistem yang mengikat dan tidak ada sebuah peraturan yang mendasar bahwa ketika dirinya sudah bayar, maka ia diharuskan memilih calon tertentu. Dalam sistem "Money Politik" itu hanya berupa kesepakatan dan kepercayaan. Sehingga hal tersebut masih dapat memungkin seseorang untuk memilih calon yang lain walaupun ia telah dibayar oleh calon tertentu.
2282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling or gaming sites on: November 11, 2023, 08:48:02 PM
So, be some of the wise people in determining something, including in choosing the gambling site that we will visit.

At least find out and ask in this forum, there is a lot of information on sites that have good reputations in this forum, of course people will recommend the best and most trusted places for us to play because out there we don't necessarily get accurate information based on fake reviews that can be done by the casino, but this forum is based on the experiences of real people where there are no fake reviews as long as they are from users who have high rankings in the forum.

I also always look for new casinos on this forum because it is safer for anyone who asks, you can directly see positive feedback from friends on the forum who may have tried playing on one of the recommended casino sites, of course with the reputation of their account too. It's impossible to cheat anyone, that's why it's important to ask what the best gambling sites are on this forum rather than asking out there.
You're right! This forum helps a lot when it comes to looking for suggestions and recommendations also a lot of experts will extend their help just to make sure that all new comers in gambling will not going to experience any scam activities.Informations from the experts and pioneers here is one of a trusted for me than asking someone outside this forum .

Yes... I believe that, because those who already have a high level account are very protective of their reputation, so they always try to provide precise and accurate information. But do I have to believe that just because someone has a good reputation and has reached a high level. I don't think so, however as a form of my caution I must try to dig for further information and validate that the information I get is really reliable, really safe and avoids elements of attempted fraud.
I believe that, but in order to be a smart and wise person, we must make it a habit not to be satisfied with one opinion and one piece of information, but to keep trying to dig up the information and if necessary dig it up to its roots, so that we can accurately find and confirm the truth.

Bitcointalk is a scam detective, in my opinion. Whenever there is a question of trust and integrity, bitcointalk is always on my mind. As we all know, many crypto sites, gambling sites, and betting sites have promoted their businesses on BitcoinTalk. Users are able to give a transparent review of a platform. Users also expose bad platforms. The point is, it's giving us a great insight into which platform we should play on and which we should avoid. If any of these platforms play unfairly, they are destined to doom for sure.

Thank you for explaining what I meant, so that someone can better understand what I said.
2283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A tip for staying resposible while gambling. on: November 11, 2023, 08:08:35 PM
When they realize very well that to be able to get money is very difficult, then they will never decide to play gambling. Because they know that gambling is not a place to make money, not a place to multiply money and not a place that can lead us to a gate of success and financial freedom.
In several posts, I always mention that our position is as a player where we have to deposit money to get pleasure, not profit.

And if we talk about a beginner who is new to gambling and just playing gambling, most of them think how easy it is to get money in a short time just by playing gambling. Believe it or not, those who are new to the world of gambling often get a large amount of winnings that make them even more curious about gambling. Until finally it encourages them to be even more crazy in playing gambling and makes them an irresponsible gambler.
2284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Luck and skill, which is more important for gambling success? on: November 11, 2023, 07:43:33 PM
I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

Luck has a big influence on almost every type of gambling, even someone who is not good enough at gambling can get a win, because of the luck he has. luck is something that we cannot be sure of, so to get a win every time we play gambling, it is an impossible thing for us to get.


It is different when we play gambling by not only relying on luck, but we also present a skill in playing gambling. And a skill will not be created without good learning and understanding in gambling. By not only relying on luck in playing gambling, but also presenting skills in playing gambling, it is not impossible that we will always be able to create winning opportunities every time we play gambling.

But all of this, not to make someone successful in gambling, but this is done so that someone can always create winning opportunities every time they gamble. Because a successful gambler is not about how much he wins in gambling, but more about how capable the person can control the gambling he does.
2285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Owners of betting companies bet? on: November 11, 2023, 07:17:27 PM
Do owners of betting companies place bet on their own platform or is there a policy specific policy that restricts them from betting. Do you think that there would be conflict of interest or that it will be unethical if owners bet on their own platforms. These are the questions that I am seeking an answer to.

I don't know the exact motivation of an entrepreneur to build a gambling business. If the reason someone builds this gambling business is to increase their income, maybe they will never think about betting, maybe they will only think about how they can increase their income and can reap the maximum profit from the business they build.
But it will be a different story, if the purpose of someone building a gambling business is to create a fair and responsible gambling, as well as gambling that can provide security and comfort for its visitors. with the reason that as long as he gambled he did not find a gambling platform like that, so he decided to build his own gambling platform that could provide it all. And maybe occasionally he will bet on the gambling platform he has to be able to always make sure that the gambling platform he has, can indeed provide safety and comfort, also ensure that the gambling site provides fair and responsible games for its visitors.

2286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 11, 2023, 03:38:04 PM
This second half, Tottenham haven't been too dominating, though they're are missing a lot of chances as well, a draw will be justifiable for me given their outstanding performance this second half, as it stands now is 1-1.
Wolves 2 - Tottenham 1

Wolves become the second team to hand Tottenham a defeat in this season after Chelsea put in the first blow. Very painful, two quick goals at the ending of the game and Tottenham loose their advantage. Wolves have now defeated two very big teams this season, Manchester City and Tottenham, and they are quickly building a reputation for themselves. They deserved to win against Tottenham because they maintained pressure on Tottenham defense all through the game from when they started, and they made sure that Son could not do much.

The injuries Tottenham have especially that of Madison is what has cost them this game. The game for Tottenham lacked the creativity of Madison.
Losing Romero and Udogie in defense seemed to give Tottenham a bad condition in their defense because the gaps they got could not be closed properly.
There was nothing wrong with their performance, but they were so engrossed in their attack that they forgot about their defense which backfired on them.
On the other hand this was really an interesting match because seeing what happened in this match IMO this is the most successful comeback for Wolves because the quick goal scored at the beginning of the first half Tottenham was replied with 2 goals in the final minute of extra time which  made it difficult to accept.
Well in the end we have to admit that with these 2 consecutive defeats now Manchesrter City is one of the clubs that does  benefit other than that,  Wolves are again incarnated as one of the big club killer specialist club.
2287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 11, 2023, 01:33:05 PM
Sassoulo managed to beat Juventus and Inter Milan but when facing Selernitana they were only able to draw 2-2, in fact their opponents managed to take the lead with two goals quite quickly in the first half and after that Sassoulo managed to reduce the gap.
Sassuolo, who managed to control the game, was only able to score one goal in the second half to prevent them from losing.

That is actually not surprising because looking at the current situation for Sassuolo they are not having a good performance in the last few matches they have done because in the previous 4 matches they only managed to get only 2 points when 2 draws and 2 defeats they received so in this match they are also likely to get the same thing and that is really the case.
Their defense still looks weak even they have to fall behind 2 goals first. Although their possession of the ball is good and the chances they get are quite a lot but such things will not be enough if indeed their defense is not too good and this draw is still good for them rather than not getting any points at all.
2288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 11, 2023, 01:09:33 PM
It looks like it is determined that Guirassy will not be able to play against Dortmund. This is really bad news for Stuttgart of course. Because they are relying on his finishing skills quite much. Without him they haven't been able to get good results so far. I don't think this will change against Dortmund as well. They would probably have serious issues with scoring easily.

Dortmund should be able to make use of their situation. They got a bad result against Bayern Munich maybe but we still saw really good against Newcastle in the Champions League. I expect them to win here again.

I am surprised that Dortmund’s odds are still very weak:

2.52 - 3.85 - 2.58

In fact, Dortmund and Stuttgart are neighbors in the standings, plus Dortmund has a stronger historical background and reliability - they have only one defeat in the Bundesliga, and Stuttgart has 3. It seems to me that the bet on Dortmund is obvious here.
Yep, it's totally out of control but I'm quite happy with these odds because however placing a bet on Dortmund at these odds is definitely a good thing.
Indeed, VFB is still quite good until now but with the not-so-good results they received in the last few matches and their current opponent is Dortmund actually I think this is too raising the chances of VFB who is playing home.
But even though it's like that, I'm still happy because 2.58 is an odds worth betting on.
2289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 11, 2023, 12:41:34 PM
Toulouse gave it their best shot in this game, Ngl. I didn't watch the game even though my money was on Liverpool and it's lost obviously but I heard from others that Liverpool was once again robbed by VAR. It's hearsay now until I see the highlights. Somehow I felt Liverpool was going to lose today but due to the fact that I'm always biased with my selection when it involves Liverpool, I still played it. The issue is not about resting players. Klopp usually rotates the squad to give players not getting enough PL time the opportunity to get some game time in. Most times, it's enough to finish the job but some days ir isn't. Today is one of such days.

Still there shouldn't be any problem for Liverpool after this loss. They are already comfortable in the Europa League and they just don't want to lose momentum too much in the Premier League on one hand. The rotation decision was completely the right thing to do. They just left two points in the Luton match in the end. They need their main starting eleven players fit for the Brentford match next.

To be honest I expect to see Liverpool being very competitive for the Europa League title. They are chasing the Premier League title primarily maybe but I don't expect them to get eliminated by a small team in the Europa League at the same time. But I can't be sure about what they can do against other big title contenders.
Even though they lost this match their position in the standings for the Europa League was very comfortable and indeed even though Klopp's rotation did not go very well in this match but there was a positive thing that could be taken including for some of their young players.
In this match we can see that Liverpool are still very good in possession and opportunities even though the finishing is not going well but on the other hand it is certainly a positive result even though they lost 3 points.
Now when their position is quite comfortable in the standings, it is also not wrong for Klopp to rotate his players and save the energy of the main players to make them ready when competing with competitions that they think are important later.

2290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 11, 2023, 12:08:14 PM
Montpellier vs Nice The first half ended without a score (0-0), it seems like Nice have a tough opponent on matchday 12 tonight, but there is still the second half and I think Nice can still scored. In fact, even though they are playing away now, but the Nice team can control over the course of this match. And there is a possibility that Nice can increase their attacking power in the second half, to be able to scored and steal three points at the Mosson stadium.
Now their match time is running out and no goals have been scored in the match. I think Nice needs to press and attack harder in order to score one of the goals that might give Nice the three points on matchday 12 tonight. Because if their match ends in a draw tonight, it will be very possible for PSG to overtake Nice in tomorrow's match at home to Reims, so Nice needs to score one of the goals to win tonight.
The match ended with a scoreless score. Although indeed in this case it is still quite good for Nice because they can still win points and avoid their first defeat but still this 1 point makes them now vulnerable to being overtaken because with 1 point in this match the difference with PSG is only 2 points and Monaco has a difference of 3 points. If in the end for the PSG match against Reims and Monaco managed to get 3 points at Le Havre headquarters, Nice will indirectly plunge to 3rd place because PSG and Monaco will be able to overtake with the advantage of points and the difference in goal difference.
But it becomes interesting because for the championship race I expect something like this only when PSG is at the top this will not be too good for the championship race.
2291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 11, 2023, 10:32:24 AM

Manchester City are going to be fully set for Chelsea, because of the recent activeness of the club against strong teams like Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur which Chelsea really played an excellent game, Manchester city will no tolerate any mess with Chelsea, this match is going to be tough, Chelsea are the one hosting the match at Stamford Bridge and they will not like to be disgrace at home by Manchester City and Manchester City really need to collect this 3 points, for Manchester City to loss this match is going to be a disaster for the because they will move away from the first place on table. There is going to be war between Chelsea and Manchester City.
I still feel it can be used as a patoka for Chelsea who are ready to face a club like Manchestetr City now because after all Manchester City are still in control in this match.
Chelsea played very well against Arsenal as well as the victory that was bound to happen against 9-man Tottenham but in the end it still cannot be a benchmark for them to be solid against Manchester City.

It would be great if they could hold City in this match but their chance is only a draw and even then the possibility is still quite small.
2292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 11, 2023, 09:03:54 AM
Girona will fight against Rayo today and we all know this season Girona was appears as the dark horses team who can broke the domination of Real Madrid and Barcelona and the records 11 wins in all competitions is proven Girona performance even more better than those teams above and today Rayo will testing their consistency indeed if we see from head to head statistics Rayo can able to gets the winning results several times from Girona but today is different because Girona conditions is much better than Rayo

Girona will lost David López Silva because of injured but Eric García can be played as centre back to replace David López Silva and last week Eric García was performing well when Girona beat Osasuna and i think Girona still able to resumes their winning streak from this match and collect 3 points and the bookmakers provided decent odds for Girona win @2.31
Looking at what's happening now I think this match will still be interesting. Girona so far still has a good trend and confidence especially now that they are still at the top of the table which is comfortable after Madrid is 2 points behind after the previous draw.
But Rayo also always play and defend well because they seem now for Rayo they want a result for the big club and I think for Girona must be aware  of the scheme carried out by Rayo in this match so as not to let the same result as Madrid  repeat for them if they still expect the top of the standings in hand.  
2293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 11, 2023, 08:09:36 AM
Actually problem for top players not comfortable although bigger payment salary with top teams but difficult with regular position, seems Kalvin Phillips will priority with another team who guarantee with more minutes playing and leaves Manchester City as soon possible if have any interested teams want to sign him.
Because Philips still want to contribute more and still has something he want to achieve in his individual achievements so that when not too glimpsed  by Pep and not given much playing time then indeed he wants more for his individual career. 
But indeed this is like a law of nature where his performances is lost in competing. so it is certain that he willn't be too cared for, especially in the Manchester City squad which must  be full of competition in it because Pep is always looking for many talented young players.

At the moment he  is  reportedly being eyed by several Serie A club suvh as Juventus and Milan, it's just that this is also not easy to leave. 
2294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 10, 2023, 11:59:26 PM
Arda Guler is too young to be compared with Eden Hazard, he won't end up like Eden Hazard either. This is just the genesis of his career with Real Madrid. I doubt if he is the first player to be hurt with injury in his first season.
The head of the club has assured him over his game time that he will have his time. Player's returning from injuries are meant to be rushed into the team to play so they don't get injured again.

He has been accessed by the medicals and doctors and was given the go ahead. When it's right, Carlo Ancellotti will let him have his chance.
Even if what you say is true but in the end we also have to remember that Arda Guller's club now is Madrid who are unforgiving when a player does not match the expectations they want because it could be that even though he is still young he still does not rule out the possibility of being wasted.
Arda must be able to develop according to the expectations that Madrid has because that is his hope to be able to stay at Madrid but when he has problems with injuries that make in the end his performance decreases again and again then it could be the same fate as Hazard by continuing to stay on the bench will happen.
2295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 10, 2023, 11:49:14 PM

I'm not so sure about Milan to lose to Dortmund in San Siro to be honest. Because they have gained some momentum finally by the important win against PSG in San Siro. These 2 goals were the first ones Milan scored in the group as well. However I think these goals will motivate them to be better at finishing in the remaining matches.

Actually, something like this can still happen because after all, seeing from what happened in group F, there are always surprises that will happen, especially for each team in group F has the same ambitions and chances to qualify so they will definitely make every effort to make their performance better and better in every match that is carried out.
Milan and Dortmund are in the same situation and they also have a record in the previous match is a draw but Dortmund has more advantages after winning against Newcastle which makes this could be a good advantage against Milan later.
Moreover, the last one to face is PSG for Dortmund so victory must be a fixed price for them to still be able to compete even though it is playing at Milan's home.
2296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 10, 2023, 10:07:12 PM

But in this case the victory against Tottenham I don't think it can be used as a reference that they have changed because however seeing the current situation that is happening especially with some big matches they are ready to face in the coming weeks this could make Chelsea return to their previous performance.
That's right, the next 4 weeks Chelsea will still struggle with some big clubs because Manchestr City, Newcastle, Brighton and Manchester United are ready to face them and indeed these are all big matches.
Victory against Tottenham can be a good capital but to face Manchester City it could be that this does not really mean much because indeed looking at the current situation even though last week Chelsea played very well but still Manchester City are at a different level.
In addition, they must also try to strengthen mentally because when one match is lost usually for Chelsea it always has an impact on other matches so for the next few weeks when they lose, their mentality must remain strong so they can keep getting up in other matches.
2297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 10, 2023, 09:40:55 PM
In this round Bayern Munich has such an easy matchup that i think they will destroy Heidenheim,while Bayer Leverkusen dosent have such an easy match. Union Berlin just broke their losing streak and might look for a first win after such a long time. While Stuttgart and Dortmund play in a derby and i think this might be a draw.
A club full of experience and a bundesliga powerhouse facing a club new to the bundesliga who still don't know much about what goes on in the big competition, things will look easy for Bayern.
But of course we also can't underestimate this promotion club. Bayern still don't know the ins and outs of where Heidenheim's strength lies but for Heidenheim themselves they are aware of something that is defending as hard as possible and trying for a draw is the best condition for them at this time.
I won't expect much from Heidenheim in this match but when they manage to hold Bayern to a draw with the current situation it is still very good for them.
2298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 10, 2023, 09:22:34 PM
Yes, Rudi Garcia has tough task because he has to return Napoli to its performance and strength like last season, but several of their players have experienced setbacks, plus the presence of Osimhen who is injured will make it difficult for Napoli to make changes.

Actually, in this case, the increase or decrease in player performance also depends on how the coach gives trust and freedom to them so that this depends on the attitude of the coach whether his presence will make the player become as expected or decrease in terms of performance.
Napoli players who have decreased now also have a share of Rudi who cannot bring Napoli's performance to the best as before in the era of Spalletti even though this player must also be regretted due to the decline in quality and performance but still the one in control is the coach and Rudi cannot be separated from it.

I don't think Rudi Garcia has a difficult task here. Before he arrived, Napoli were champions last season under coach Luciano Spalletti. Garcia came here with a mission: to maintain the strength of the team. Coach Rudi Garcia and his team are in 4th place, and successfully defending the championship will probably be difficult for them. Therefore, he needs a quality alternative to ensure that the reigning Serie A champion is capable of competing with AC Milan, Inter Milan, or Juventus.

You know when you want to achieve something it will be easier than maintaining and with the situation of Napoli who are already at the top this clearly puts heavy pressure on Garcia and maintaining the position with the same performance is very difficult. and now it is evident that Napoli's performance still cannot be as good as before even though they are currently still in the top 4 but their performance is still not as good as before so saying it is an easy task I think it is a mistake.

I don't understand what alternative you mean in this case but for now the point is clear if in the end Rudi Garcia still can't compete in the Scudetto race then he must be prepared with his position threatened.
2299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Out of curiosity, how much you wagered recently? on: November 10, 2023, 10:50:03 AM
Hmm... I'm curious
This is a feeling that is ingrained in humans. And it is this feeling that gambling business actors are trying to exploit, so that someone can continue gambling even after losing. In other words, this curiosity is what makes some people feel so at home in gambling.

And I personally, have never spent large amounts of money just to gamble, just to prove my curiosity about gambling. I avoid this, because gambling is not a place that can give us profits. And even if it can provide profits, it is only instant profits that will never last long. I just don't want this curiosity to turn into regret. Because after all, gambling is full of uncertainty.
2300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: November 10, 2023, 10:26:35 AM

Well majority of the hobby and vices will most likely stop if you have an illness. Most of us fear death of illness and the things we enjoy like gambling will not be enjoyable anymore if we a threat in our life. But I think one reason why gamblers quit doing gambling is the interest of gambling, sometimes spending so much time on things makes it boring given that there's not much to see or to expect from doing it. Gambling feels repetitive for me after playing it for years, the adrenaline rush I get before is not that much compared today as per my personal experience. I agree that we all would quit and I think that there are only few of us would quit because of an old age.

Age is based on the different gamblers,to me it’s better to make the gambling retire after the age of 50 years.Because after the 30 years it’s hard to handle the financial problem including the family expenses,the medical expenses of the old age parents.So it’s better to quit the gambling after the age of 50 years.Already we had enough problem during the age of 50 years,So the gambling loss will not allow us to live a peaceful life.So take a deep breath at the age of 50 and retire from the gambling.Many people at the age of 50 years struggle to live using their holding money,So the gambling will not fit for them at the age of 50 years is my opinion in this.

At that age we are very vulnerable to disease and our abilities have begun to decline so that the income we earn will be much lower than when we were young. However, not for people who have sufficient finances and good economic stability, so that people can still continue gambling. Even though at that age we have quite a lot of free time, it would not be wise if we had to fill that free time with gambling. And it would be good if at that age we focused more on paying attention to our health and that of our family, because maybe on the outside we really want those moments, they really miss the warmth of a family.
And if you decide, the best thing is to stop, then stop gambling.
Here I don't know your current age, but I suggest that you reorganize your gambling activities and start not gambling too often. If you currently gamble twice a week, then try as much as possible to only play once a week, continue to narrow down the time you spend gambling, so that when you are 50 years old, you can easily and completely leave gambling behind. Remember that gambling is very difficult for us to stop and we cannot stop gambling all at once, we need to do it gradually.
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