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2121  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Fenomena Aneh Foto Caleg di Kuburan on: October 17, 2023, 10:00:16 PM
Sudah bukan hal yang mengherankan lagi bahwa memang ketika mendekati pemilu, yang dimana belum juga ada penetapan calon akan tetapi yang namanya baliho dan spanduk sudah berceceran dimana-mana, stiker balon yang tertempel dimana-dimana, dimulai dari striker yang tertempel di tiang listrik yang berdekat dengan striker sedot WC sampai pada rumah-rumah warga yang ditempel tanpa seijin pemiliknya dan begitupun dengan bendera partai yang tertancab dimana-mana yang hanya merusak pemandangan saja.

Walaupun memang tempat pemakaman umun itu adalah salah satu temapat yang sering dikunjungi terlebih lagi jika pada momen-momen tertentu, akan tetapi kalau secara aturan hal ini jelas bahwa hal ini sangatlah menyali aturan yang sesuai dengan apa yang tertuang dalam peraturan KPU tentang pemasangan alat peraga kampanye. Kadang saya juga tidak habis pikir kepada tim sukses calon yang menempelkan dan memasang APK di sembarang temapat, yang dimana sudah tau bahwa kuburan itu tempat yang cukup kumuh.. ehhh dengan sengajanya mereka memasang baliho disana yang membuat TPU tersebut semakin kumuh dan tidak terurus.

Dan sedikit berbicara tentang tentang orang yang meningal, ada suatu kejadian dimana pada pemilu 2019 silam terdapat satu kecurangan dimana orang-orang yang meninggal masih terdaptar sebagai DPT (Daftar Pemilih Tetap) dan suaranya tetap diperhitungkan walaupun tidak mencoblos dan baru-baru ini juga terdapat kejadian yang sama dimana ada beberapa ribu orang yang meninggal akan tetapi masih terdaftar sebagai pemilih tetap..? kan tololl.
Namun sepertinya ada yang lebih bodoh lagi dibandingkan KPU, yaitu para timses yang datang kekuburan untuk memasang baliho calonnya dan berharap bahwa suara yang meninggal itu dapat menjadi miliknya.. kan tololl WKWKW.. seharunya mereka itu datangnya ke kantor KPU bukan ke TPU. Karena KPU lah yang melakukan permainan dan kecurangan ini dengan membiarkan orang yang sudah meninggal tetap terdaftar sebagai pemilih tetap, yang dimana nantinya suara tersebut bisa saja mereka jual kepada pihak yang memang sanggup untuik membayarnya dalam jumlah tertentu.

2122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ? on: October 17, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ?

Everything can be discussed, friend.. But it seems that when it comes to women it feels very difficult to talk about it and it seems like OP knows very well that a man's weakness is in women. Where a woman is one of God's creatures who is quite stubborn and when she wants something or forbids something, like it or not, we as men who love her so much have to obey it, and if not, maybe something we don't want will happen.

And if later the prospective bride demands that I give up gambling before continuing with a wedding, then as much as possible I will try to leave gambling and I do this not because I am afraid of being abandoned by the woman, but I am just showing my seriousness. that I really intended to marry him. However, if in reality, after I try to leave gambling but in reality I can't, then for all decisions I will return it to the prospective bride and how grateful I will be if she is willing to accept it all, but if she is unable to accept it So I thought that he was not a suitable partner for me because he couldn't accept all the shortcomings that I had. And indeed there is a saying "when a woman gives many conditions to accept you, then in fact the woman really doesn't want you to be her life partner."
2123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do your parents know about your gambling habit ? on: October 17, 2023, 08:43:44 PM
Most of the grown up people do not live with parents. At such, the parents are not aware about the interests and habits of individuals. Do you parents know that you gamble ? What was their first reaction towards your gambling habit ?

Even though I am old enough and able to take full responsibility for everything I do, to prevent things that I don't want from happening, I always tell my parents about everything I do, but when it comes to gambling, I only talk about this. to a father, because he is the one who understands this best. And when I told him about the gambling activities that I did, he didn't show an expression of panic or anger because maybe he also thought that a man could never get away from gambling and my father just advised me to be careful when gambling because it involves money and "The risks are very high," he understood very well because perhaps he had also been at the same point.

As for talking about this to a mother, I don't think I'm brave enough to do that...hihihi
2124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: October 17, 2023, 08:14:47 PM
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You are right about that, that the way to get rid of the addiction to gambling is to stop the activity and switch to doing more useful activities like what you mentioned. But sometimes this doesn't last long and especially if you don't have a strong desire to consistently do positive things. where maybe for the first week things will go according to what was planned, but in the future they will get more lazy and in the end they will end up sitting at the gambling table again.

And to overcome this, once again I agree with you that there must be someone who can accompany us and continue to support us so that when our enthusiasm is low, there is someone who will ignite that enthusiasm again so that we can continue to be consistent with what we previously planned.

I would highlight "if someone doesn't have a strong desire"... if there's no real desire for something, then that something is impossible! And if someone really wants something, he will find a way to make it happen... I just listed a few possibilities, but someone can dedicate himself to many other life/love/or any other activity that is not "gambling"! And while some activities are expensive, there are some "cheap ones", and those cheap ones can be really effective with the right approach.


to be able to generate this strong desire is what is very difficult for us to achieve and to be able to build. And it seems that you also quite understand the temptation to gamble which knows no place and no time and this temptation can come both within us personally and from outside, from our friends. And sometimes the temptation arises when we are resting or when we are alone at night, where sometimes the desire to gamble suddenly arises or when we are playing on social media and we see live streaming gambling, sometimes this makes the desire to gamble come back again.

If it is said to be difficult, it is indeed very difficult to be able to control or leave gambling, where apart from we have to have strong determination, we also have to be able to leave the environment that only brings us back to gambling.
2125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: October 17, 2023, 07:56:06 PM
Never mind thinking that "gambling is a permanent job that can provide profit every time you play gambling and talk that there is a career in it which when the career continues to increase, the income will also increase". 
I consider that gambling is a side job, I don't dare to talk like that. Because gambling is too high risk to lose money in the blink of an eye, and how could I possibly think that this is a job. In gambling, there is a game not a task that we must and must do. the content is clear that this is just a game for fun, it's just that in playing gambling it must involve money as a bet so that in playing it we must be careful not to do careless things that result in a big loss in gambling.

As for people who become wealthy from the gambling they play, they are not people who are successful in gambling but people who are lucky in gambling because they managed to win a large amount of bets. And believe me tomorrow or the day after tomorrow the winnings will run out again sucked into gambling.


Many people get into gambling by considering of the regular income source,but they never understand the reality.The gambling had a chance of winning the game but also had a chance of losing in the gambling.So the gambler should take the responsibility for the money using in the gambling.Some people consider the gambling as the side job.It may be the better option,because you may have money for your  foods and shelter for every month.You are going to use the free money from the gambling.So the free money will not affect your monthly expenses.The gambling addiction can be recovered by reducing the number of games per day into gambling sites.If the people who get more money from the gambling, they will plan to use the more money in to the same gambling sites.

Yes, there is nothing more important than that we must be responsible for the gambling we do and continue to be careful when playing it and don't forget to keep trying to keep our gambling activities under control, lest we get carried away with gambling which in the end only ends in a loss. Even though gambling promises big wins, we still cannot consider gambling as our main source of income "because we can win and we can lose in gambling" and the point is that gambling is full of uncertainty.

Telling a little story is okay, right? and I won't talk about other people, I will tell you about myself personally, where even though I am not married, I have more responsibility to pay for my younger sister so that he can continue studying at school comfortably without having to think about costs and pocket money as well as food. every day. Therefore, I must have a permanent job that can provide me with a reliable income to be able to meet my and my sister's needs. I just want to see that my younger sibling can live a decent life and get sufficient education to prepare for life in the future. And I don't want this to be ruined because of my gambling activities
2126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 17, 2023, 05:15:48 PM
Even though Madrid is the favorite in this match, they still cannot underestimate Sevilla because even though Sevilla's performance is still not very good at this time, they will definitely put pressure especially now they are playing at home with the support of many militant supporters, so surely they will try to give their best for the final result even though Madrid is still believed to be 3 points but Sevilla will definitely strive for the results of the points also for them even though it is difficult.

I myself expect something else in this match because this is the time when our captain Sergio meets his colleague with the status of opponent.
It's a big mistake for a team to underestimate its opponent, even if that opponent has a very bad situation, so there is no reason for Real Madrid to try to underestimate Sevilla. In fact, this is a great opportunity for them to get 3 points, by utilizing the weaknesses and situations that Sevilla is now facing.
It's also worth remembering that the competition is fierce, and even a team that wouldn't normally be in second place is now in second place, Girona. This is a real threat to them that they must take seriously.
The problem that Madrid have to face right now is their lack of players in defense because we know there are some players like Militao and currently Alaba is also not known how his condition is which makes this a little difficult because of the empty positions for Madrid and even they in the last few matches tried with Carvajal or Tchouameni as their anchor defender.
This is a little worrying but fortunately their attacking line is still very good so far so it can still be covered but indeed this also needs special consideration because if you see conditions like this forcing Carvajal or Tchouameni who are not in a comfortable position for them this will also not be effective in every match.
2127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 17, 2023, 04:14:42 PM
Rodri's punishment will end in 1 more match against Brighton so I think this has also given Manchester City back a sense of security, it's just that for KDB it looks like Manchester City will have to wait longer.
The first 2 matches lost actually I think this is even though it is troublesome but it will not be a problem because they will stay on track, it's just that without Rodri and KDB against Brighton it is clear that this will again be a troublesome match especially with the absenc of a replacement and a suitable formation at this time and Brighton's strength which is currently quite good then this will be tiring again for Manchester City and this could also be  disturbing for their points.   

The experience Manchester City is going through due to the absence of Rodri and Kevin De Bruyn should be a lesson to them. There is a need to groom a replacement that can stand for them during their absence or buy some player. Pep Guardiola should also change his strategy because teams are now aware that without these two players, the team is highly deficient, so if I were a coach, De Bruyn and Rodri would be my main targets. Brighton has not been a good side in the past few games, they lost games against Chelsea and heavily against Aston Villa. But it was an impressive display in their last game against Liverpool when they were to secure a draw against a very well-fortified side. Coach Roberto De Zerbi has always proved tactically sound, so City should expect a good fight in Etihad. 
But indeed things like this rarely happen, it's just that when it happens it will be troublesome for Manchester City.
The possibility of looking for other alternatives may still be possible, it's just that this will create a buildup of midfielders, I think rather than like that it would be better for Pep to look for new attack alternatives by doing several schemes not only about the flow of the ball like they always do, even though it is risky but events like this rarely happen and Rodri can also still return to play in week 10 later, it's just that for Brighton they will definitely still lose Rodri and there must be alternatives from several other midfielders as good rhythm setters now.
2128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 17, 2023, 10:53:46 AM
So the Real Madrid squad is now complete and Ancelotti no longer needs to rotate his players to cover the gaps left by his players due to injuries. In the match against Sevilla, it is clear that 3 points will belong to Real Madrid and we all know that it is not a complicated matter.
I personally feel that Madrid will still not underestimate Sevilla in this match. Even though Sevilla's condition is quite bad, that doesn't mean Ancelotti will be careless in implementing the formation. 3 points can be achieved, but Sevilla will play at home which is a plus point and try to improve its poor performance.
Even though Madrid is the favorite in this match, they still cannot underestimate Sevilla because even though Sevilla's performance is still not very good at this time, they will definitely put pressure especially now they are playing at home with the support of many militant supporters, so surely they will try to give their best for the final result even though Madrid is still believed to be 3 points but Sevilla will definitely strive for the results of the points also for them even though it is difficult.

I myself expect something else in this match because this is the time when our captain Sergio meets his colleague with the status of opponent.
2129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 17, 2023, 09:12:54 AM
it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.
Regardless of age, I don't think 32 is too old for a goalkeeper, especially Bayerna, who are currently much older than their goalkeepers, it's just that the compatibility is in question between Tuchel and De Gea, which seems to be one of the other reasons.
But I think if this is allowed to continue, it can also interfere with Bayern itself because we know that currently Neuer is 37 years old and Sven Ulreih is 2 years younger than Neuer, which means Bayern must look for other alternatives even though there is a new goalkeeping option Peretz with a younger age but he will not be used as a startern and future project I think.
2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 17, 2023, 08:14:00 AM
I don't think Messi will return to Barcelona, and this is just a rumor. Inter Miami's chances of reaching the MLS playoffs were dashed after a loss to Cincinnati. This ended Miami's hopes of continuing. Messi's free time during those months it sparked rumors that he would return to Barcelona. However, this information was quickly deemed completely inaccurate by Inter Miami head coach Martino.
There is no reason for him to be willing to return to Barcelona. Last transfer season, Messi was given a free transfer. But the Barcelona board of directors had yet to bring him back. At this point, the idea of borrowing it is entirely unreasonable.
Recent update, Lionel Messi not return to Barcelona as loan option after Inter Miami failure reached to playoff round and he will focus stay for new season on next year, current information publishing by Fabrizio Rumano and Lionel Messi will not play for any team yet and waiting until new season begin. Lionel Messi have two matches left with Inter Miami but upcoming match seems he not return to the team because left two matches days after facing Peru in World Cup Qualifier CONMEBOL zone.

Ultimately it's also about profit. He's already comfortable in the USA despite the club's poor showing in MLS but he's already benefited greatly from the luxuries afforded so why return to Barcelona with all the difficulties he's had before.
Even though there has been a lot of speculation and news, it is still just exaggerated news because in the end everything will be the same as usual with the many rumors that exist but it is only to increase traffic so that news about player transfers is always there, especially for a goat like Messi.
2131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 17, 2023, 07:20:42 AM

even though it's still early in the season but Manchester City has already suffered 2 defeats and Manchester City still has 30 more matches to play in the Premier League, I'm a little worried about Manchester City's current performance which is not yet completely consistent and the absence of 2 players in the main squad Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri will slightly affect their performance in facing matches in the Premier League and also in the Champions League. Pep Guardiola must take quick steps to replace these 2 players so that Manchester City does not experience a decline.

Manchester City should be able to win this match because they will be playing at home so this will be an advantage for Man City, but we also cannot underestimate Brighton, he is not completely in bad condition, he also suffered the same 2 defeats as Manchester City and Brighton were in 6th position at the moment so this match is quite important for them to win points or Brighton will hold the match to a draw
Rodri's punishment will end in 1 more match against Brighton so I think this has also given Manchester City back a sense of security, it's just that for KDB it looks like Manchester City will have to wait longer.
The first 2 matches lost actually I think this is even though it is troublesome but it will not be a problem because they will stay on track, it's just that without Rodri and KDB against Brighton it is clear that this will again be a troublesome match especially with the absenc of a replacement and a suitable formation at this time and Brighton's strength which is currently quite good then this will be tiring again for Manchester City and this could also be  disturbing for their points.   
2132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 17, 2023, 06:55:03 AM
As I recall last season the Napoli duo of Kvaratskhelia and Osimhen were the 2 best players in Serie A last season where they were ranked 1st and 2nd followed by Savic who was third for best player.
As for Napoli's social media problem, this was not justified and Osimhen also reacted strongly to this but indeed until now it has also been resolved but we still don't know what will happen later.
This season with some of the conditions that exist actually Osimhen's future is still fifty-fifty whether he will stay or not, but whatever his decision I think he already thinks that it is the best way for his career.
I think Osimhen will leave the team. The problem he experienced would be the turning point in his Napoli career. If they really managed to convince him, Napoli officials should be congratulated. I still think he will be transferred to the Premier League and be successful there.
His condition still cannot be used as a certainty because however, at this time there is still no real information and is still only speculation, especially since the current transfer season is still quite far away. But in this case seeing the confidence of the Napoli president who did confidently say that they could extend Osimhen's contract I think they also actually have something to do because it would not be possible for a president to be confident in some of his statements about Osimhen's contract if he did not have anything so this could be a condition where there is a verbal agreement before there is actually a new contract agreement.

2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 16, 2023, 05:15:54 PM
This is very similar to following someone's betting history. I did that a few times in live blackjack and live poker games where I'd watch a player for a while and start backing his bets if I saw potential.
Financing other gamblers is a good strategy in skill based games that you don't have much experience in or if you want to bet but can't stay calm during the game and succumb to emotions.
A few times I gave my friend money to bet on a football game because he's better than me at it, he's more careless and confident and it works out for him.

As long as you have the courage to bear all the risks that occur, maybe this is a legitimate thing to do. But for me personally, it's better for me to play it myself without having to entrust it to other people, because what I'm looking for in gambling is pleasure, not profit. By jumping straight into the world of gambling, I will be able to feel the adrenaline and excitement of gambling and I will always enjoy the gambling and bets I make, whether I win or lose, I will accept both of these things because this is a risk in gambling.

I just advise that when you finance someone to gamble, you have to be careful because it is not uncommon for what starts as an agreement and cooperation but in the end ends in a fight. Because quite a few of them are financed to gamble, but after getting a big win they are reluctant to share it and vice versa when they lose, it is not uncommon for the party who finances the gambler to often continue to blame him and corner him which leads to an argument.
2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win on: October 16, 2023, 04:59:22 PM
Looks like the father knows the consequences of his son's action and he just wants to guide him no matter what the scenario is, we don't appreciate this kind of love from our parents until they are no longer here with us and by that time we realize that no one has ever been truthful to us except them. He should always listen to his father and learn to be contented in his life since they all have the means to survive. If he accepted it, I'm sure it won't be the last time the son does it and until the whole family is addicted to it.

What we consider good is not necessarily good according to other people and what other people think is good may not necessarily be good according to us too.

We need to know that there are those who think gambling is good and there are also those who think gambling is bad. And there are also those who think that gambling is haram and there are also those who think that gambling is halal.
And perhaps the reason behind the person not wanting to accept the money earned from gambling is because they think that gambling is a bad thing and an act that is haram according to religious law. And I really respect the decision he made, because his fortitude and faith were not shaken just by the amount of money his son gave him, even though he was experiencing financial difficulties. I really respect him, compared to people who keep shouting that gambling is bad and gambling is haram, but when given some money from gambling they immediately fall silent and take the money. LAUGH OUT LOUD...!
2135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: October 16, 2023, 04:32:54 PM
Never mind thinking that "gambling is a permanent job that can provide profit every time you play gambling and talk that there is a career in it which when the career continues to increase, the income will also increase". 
I consider that gambling is a side job, I don't dare to talk like that. Because gambling is too high risk to lose money in the blink of an eye, and how could I possibly think that this is a job. In gambling, there is a game not a task that we must and must do. the content is clear that this is just a game for fun, it's just that in playing gambling it must involve money as a bet so that in playing it we must be careful not to do careless things that result in a big loss in gambling.

As for people who become wealthy from the gambling they play, they are not people who are successful in gambling but people who are lucky in gambling because they managed to win a large amount of bets. And believe me tomorrow or the day after tomorrow the winnings will run out again sucked into gambling.
2136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you not gamble on women sports? (tennis not included) on: October 16, 2023, 04:02:31 PM
I do not know if this has been discussed before, but I want to know why most discussions on sports asides tennis is about the men's side of it and the women side is about only barely mentioned. Take football for example. Why is there low engagement in women sports from the side of viewers and even gamblers who are sports bettors? Is it not easier to win on gambling on women sports than men's sport? or is there no gambling site offering odds for betting on women sports?

The match is less exciting to watch, less challenging to place a bet there and there is no greater sensation when betting there.

The physical differences between women and men are too great, this is what makes sports played by women not very popular among sports fans and sports betting players. Because no matter how good women are at playing football, none of them can match the greatness and popularity of Cristiano Ronaldo and will not be able to compete with the skills possessed by Lionel Messi. And until recently I had never thought about betting on women's sports.
And we can see for ourselves that if there is a World Cup soccer match, people can't wait for it and people's enthusiasm for watching the match is so great that they even have to scramble for tickets and order far in advance to be able to watch the match live. which is very different when there is a world cup event, namely women's football, I see that people are less enthusiastic about watching the event and TV channels very rarely broadcast the event.
2137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: October 16, 2023, 03:36:56 PM
Low-cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction can only be "Get out and walk, or even better run"! If you can combine one of these and work out (sit-ups, push-ups, lunges, etc.) you don't even need to pay for gym... If you are not a "sports guy" then just walking and sitting in the park with some book can do the thing.

And if someone needs to talk about it do it with a close friend, if not just open some chat and talk with unknown people around the world. I never understood why some people pay just to be able to talk with someone...

You are right about that, that the way to get rid of the addiction to gambling is to stop the activity and switch to doing more useful activities like what you mentioned. But sometimes this doesn't last long and especially if you don't have a strong desire to consistently do positive things. where maybe for the first week things will go according to what was planned, but in the future they will get more lazy and in the end they will end up sitting at the gambling table again.

And to overcome this, once again I agree with you that there must be someone who can accompany us and continue to support us so that when our enthusiasm is low, there is someone who will ignite that enthusiasm again so that we can continue to be consistent with what we previously planned.
2138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 16, 2023, 02:56:42 PM

A club like Napoli doesn't deserve Victor Osimhen if you ask me because they've not actually protected the Nigeria international's interest in many occasions despite the fact that he's always playing out his heart for the club whenever he's in action.
Firstly, Osimhen is supposed to win the best player in the Italian Serie A last season after his very impressive performance for the club as his goals helped to the club to win the scudetto for the first time in over 30 years. Recently, the club posted a mockery video of the striker in the club's social media account and the club couldn't tender a public apology. If he leaves in the winter transfer window, I'll be happy to see that happen.
As I recall last season the Napoli duo of Kvaratskhelia and Osimhen were the 2 best players in Serie A last season where they were ranked 1st and 2nd followed by Savic who was third for best player.
As for Napoli's social media problem, this was not justified and Osimhen also reacted strongly to this but indeed until now it has also been resolved but we still don't know what will happen later.
This season with some of the conditions that exist actually Osimhen's future is still fifty-fifty whether he will stay or not, but whatever his decision I think he already thinks that it is the best way for his career.
2139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 16, 2023, 02:37:35 PM
As long as the club is still comfortable with what it does each season and as long as many fans are quite happy with their current condition even though there are also many who demand that they do more then I think things like this will continue.
The conditions that Dortmund are doing are not just from one or two seasons but this kind of strategy has started when they were in the previous decade where Lewandowski was the opening for them to sell star players even to their own rival clubs.

So things like this will be difficult to change even if in the end there are several opportunities they want to take risks but when it is not in line with what is expected and actually makes them lose I think they will still return to their comfort zone by selling their star players for the club's financial benefits.
One thing I really like about them is that their supporters are very loyal to the club, even when Borussia Dortmund hasn't been able to give them what they expected, they are still loyal. I mean, usually when supporters demand something, they will protest to demand it, but I haven't seen that from their supporters.
Actually, they just need to raise their level just one notch from what they are showing now, then they will be able to achieve something that a club wants.
When talking about fan loyalty, it is true that Dortmund fans are one of the most loyal fans because even though they do want trophies as a form of their strength but they don't demand too much from club management to force themselves because they just like to accept what happens even for 1 decade they are always under Bayern.
An example of their loyalty was also seen at the end of last season where Signal Iduna Prak was filled with almost all fans of Dortmund and even it came out of the stadium in their last match against Mainz because they were preparing for the euphoria of the champions but failed in the last match instead of them getting angry and expressing frustration but instead they encouraged players who were slumping it was one of the craziest loyalties for a fan even though they must be difficult to accept the harsh reality where they must be willing to lose the trophy in the last match but they are still able to keep and protect players from getting too down because of their failure.    
2140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 16, 2023, 02:19:33 PM
Imo, the development and regeneration that Madrid is doing is to make Modric comfortable when he leaves and not have anything to think about after he is not in Madrid uniform.
Age, which is the main enemy for athletes, cannot be avoided and Mordic is aware of that.

The longest he will be in the squad is next season and it is most likely until the end of this season but after his departure Madrid will continue with the regeneration of players that they have done in recent seasons so that he will not have a burden and will leave comfortably.
I think so too, Real Madrid's development of a new generation of young players doesn't threaten him, in fact he'll be happy to see a bright future for the team he's been playing for all these years. I'm sure he won't feel outclassed and I'm sure he'll give a lot of advice to the young players who will replace him, be it in terms of play, mentality or perhaps other things outside the game such as attitude and so on.
As a professional player, that should be the case, because it also has a good impact on this sport that is of interest to many people.

When he has the same age younger he will still be an option but we know age cannot be stopped and currently Modric's age has reached 37 years and as I recall, this is a very old age for Madrid to keep because sometimes at the age of 34 -36 years Madrid always makes changes but not with Modric where he has reached the age of 37 but until now he is still trusted for the Madrid midfield which proves that he is a very reliable player but indeed the age of 37 years is clearly difficult to be used as a starter again now so it's time for Modric to go with pride in himself for the achievements he has given until now.

Imo, the development and regeneration that Madrid is doing is to make Modric comfortable when he leaves and not have anything to think about after he is not in Madrid uniform.
Age, which is the main enemy for athletes, cannot be avoided and Mordic is aware of that.

The longest he will be in the squad is next season and it is most likely until the end of this season but after his departure Madrid will continue with the regeneration of players that they have done in recent seasons so that he will not have a burden and will leave comfortably.

There is no problem at all about Modric being on the bench because it means that Real Madrid have managed to regenerate players very well. After all, Modric contract will also expire at the end of this season, and it is also very unlikely for Real Madrid to extend Modric contract because Modric age is no longer young to play longer in the Real Madrid squad. So yes, the elimination of Modric from the main Real Madrid squad is clear, it is not a problem whatsoever because this factor is precisely for the good of Real Madrid for the long term too of course.
That's the point because at the end of the day it's not about respecting the player, it's just that regeneration is important for a club so Madrid have to renew their players so that they can still compete and have a positive record in competitions.
On the other hand, Modric will still be considered a legend for Madrid even if he is not at Madrid until the end.
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