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2301  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a loan of 0.005370BTC repayable in a month on: December 03, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
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2302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 08:00:35 PM
You would most likely be a Catholic if born in Ireland. Northern Ireland is Protestant. They are two separate countries.

I never used to believe in God but then I was asking myself the wrong question. What I should have been asking is do I believe in evil. Once you establish the existence of evil it becomes much more apparent that good and God exist.

Good and evil do not exist, there is a no universal truth, there is only subjective opinion.
2303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 06:48:02 PM
Why do you believe that love exist?
Or spiritual world?
Or life after death?
Such things people can't prove because invisible things, from other, spiritual dimension, we can't prove in scientific way, only feel or believe.
It's the same for God, creator.
He exist out of space and time, out of universe.
We can't prove it, only believe it.
I think that most people believe in God because they understand that our life have ''very deep'' value, and that we are not just flesh but also spirit, created by God.


I don't believe in anything that can't be proven.
2304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 03:20:02 PM
Cause we all know that God created us and it is in the mind if all people .

Well I believe in the existence of God for I believe that He is the one who created us. We may not be here on earth enjoying life if not because of him. I believe that God is existing because whenever I ask him all the things that I need, He provides it in the right time. He is my strength whenever I am weak and has always been my guide all through out these years.

Pretty sure coincidence brought you all the things you need, ask him to bring you the winning lottery numbers.
2305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:54:55 PM

These are all valid possibilities to the origin of life, the first is similar to the panspermia theory, where life is carried from planet to planet by asteroids, or possibly other life.

The second is the simulated universe hypothesis, whereby we are actually being simulated on a hyper-advanced computer.

Again, your word "possibilities" shows that we don't really know about evolution as a unit theory. Certainly many parts of what is suggested to be evolution have been proven factual. But they have been proven factual for other lines of thinking than evolution at the same time. The evolution theory is a mere story.

Cool

Even if parts of evolution have been proven factual, NONE of religion has been proven factual. Science has the guts to say it doesn't yet know the answers to everything, religion claims to know the answer to everything, and does not change in the face of new information.

Most people don't want to know the truth, they want reassurance that they already know the truth.

Thank you.

Since evolution has been proven non-factual as a whole, and even as a theory, believers in it have a relgion going for themselves.

Cool

I didn't say evolution has been proven non-factual as a whole. I'm saying evolution is a known FACT, we don't know 100% of the mechanisms involved because it happens over such extreme timescales, but we have proven that the broad effects are true. Religion is the belief without evidence, science is the generation of a best fit model based on the evidence available, one is based on complete delusions (religion), the other is based experimental analysis, the scientific method and constant attempts to stress test the results.

But I have showed you that evolution is not a known fact. The reason is that all the parts of it can be applied to other things, and many of the applications are far better for the other things than for evolution.

Fundamentally, cause and effect tears evolution entirely apart, because there are no random mutations. So-called random mutations were all caused by multitudes of cause and effect actions, making it all programmed whether it is evolution or not. Programming needs a programmer.

Cool

There will be no fruit in continuing a discussion with you. But I'll finish with this. Everything has a cause and effect as far as we know, random mutations occur due to cause and effect principles, UV light strikes the mitochondrial DNA, a photolytic lesion develops causing a base adjunct to occur, the replication machinery has a known error rate and this base falls within that margin of error and thus the mutations persists. You are clearly not a scientific man, thus there is no reason for me to continue discussing with, I am arguing with the facts, you are arguing with opinions, thus we are on two different scales.

If random is not opposite to cause and effect, it is at least entirely different. If mutations are random, they are not C&E based. If they are C&E based, they are not random. They can't be both.

As long as evolutionists persist in the idea that there are random mutations, they have nothing, because random has not been proven to exist anywhere. In fact, the greater the scientist, the more he/she is into C&E activity in his/her investigations.

You just flunked basic science.

Cool

I am fairly certain that I am vastly more educated than you in this field, certainly more qualified. To say that things cannot be random because everything is C&E based is absurd, random simply means unpredictable, let me see you predict which cells in your body are developing mutations right now.
2306  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:44:45 PM

These are all valid possibilities to the origin of life, the first is similar to the panspermia theory, where life is carried from planet to planet by asteroids, or possibly other life.

The second is the simulated universe hypothesis, whereby we are actually being simulated on a hyper-advanced computer.

Again, your word "possibilities" shows that we don't really know about evolution as a unit theory. Certainly many parts of what is suggested to be evolution have been proven factual. But they have been proven factual for other lines of thinking than evolution at the same time. The evolution theory is a mere story.

Cool

Even if parts of evolution have been proven factual, NONE of religion has been proven factual. Science has the guts to say it doesn't yet know the answers to everything, religion claims to know the answer to everything, and does not change in the face of new information.

Most people don't want to know the truth, they want reassurance that they already know the truth.

Thank you.

Since evolution has been proven non-factual as a whole, and even as a theory, believers in it have a relgion going for themselves.

Cool

I didn't say evolution has been proven non-factual as a whole. I'm saying evolution is a known FACT, we don't know 100% of the mechanisms involved because it happens over such extreme timescales, but we have proven that the broad effects are true. Religion is the belief without evidence, science is the generation of a best fit model based on the evidence available, one is based on complete delusions (religion), the other is based experimental analysis, the scientific method and constant attempts to stress test the results.

But I have showed you that evolution is not a known fact. The reason is that all the parts of it can be applied to other things, and many of the applications are far better for the other things than for evolution.

Fundamentally, cause and effect tears evolution entirely apart, because there are no random mutations. So-called random mutations were all caused by multitudes of cause and effect actions, making it all programmed whether it is evolution or not. Programming needs a programmer.

Cool

There will be no fruit in continuing a discussion with you. But I'll finish with this. Everything has a cause and effect as far as we know, random mutations occur due to cause and effect principles, UV light strikes the mitochondrial DNA, a photolytic lesion develops causing a base adjunct to occur, the replication machinery has a known error rate and this base falls within that margin of error and thus the mutations persists. You are clearly not a scientific man, thus there is no reason for me to continue discussing with, I am arguing with the facts, you are arguing with opinions, thus we are on two different scales.
2307  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 02:39:24 PM
I'm a Scientist, have been for most of my life. I have NEVER believed in a supreme being, despite going to Catholic schools my entire life.

I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God? How can you argue for his existence? Please bare the following in mind when you answer;

1. There are literally thousands of religions, each of which has members that believe just as firmly as you do, they say they feel a personal connection with God, they have their own religious books and doctrines etc, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a muslim, in Ireland you would be a protestant, seems like the place you are born denotes your religion, rather than divine intervention. Obviously you can't all be right, so how do you know YOU are.

2. Most religions state that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all-present and eternal. If this is the case, why are people punished for sins by an all loving God, who predestined them to commit their sins by knowing the future? Why is there bone cancer in Children, and insects that burrow into the eyes of infants making them blind, could an all loving God not have imagined a reality without this? And why is there such overwhelming evidence AGAINST the existence of a creator?

3. Since the scientific era God has slowly receded into the shadows, God used to be held responsible for most things, e.g. people offered sacrifices for good health, prayed for rain, thought that God pulled the sun across the sky, created plagues etc. Now we know he does none of these, and God has been reduced to a "God of the gaps" whereby he is still attributed to things we cannot yet explain with science, doesn't seem very powerful anymore.

I'll try to respond to the major points in this thread attempting to dismantle them.

I do believe that God exist, without Him we are nothing,
but religion,science, philosophy, money, good deeds, and good works can't give salvation. Just believe that Jesus is the Christ because He is the Only way to meet God. If you will observe this world there's many problem because of satan, sin and people are separated from God. John 3;16 For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believe in Him shall not perish but have Eternal life. 


Your response does not live up to your username at all, seems you can't even read.

I want to know WHY you believe in God despite to points raised in my initial post, and here you come blabbering without evidence. Stand next to a true genius, and you will pale in comparison I promise you that.
2308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:37:25 PM

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind Smiley

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

Cool

What does not fit? Still have not found anything that does not fit evolution. You know evolution takes time! lots of time.

Everything that fits the evolution idea can fit other things, as well. Some of the things are entirely false even for evolution. One example is random mutations.

There is no random. The law of cause and effect, upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows this.

Everything in the universe came about either by:
1. Cause and effect, or;
2. We don't know how it came about
However, because of the tremendous number of "things" that we know exist due to C&E, and because of the fact that we have not found even one thing that we know has pure random behind it, C&E stands as science law.

What does this mean regarding evolution mutations? It means that they have been caused by something. They are not random. Our idea of random only exists because we are too "weak" to see the complex, underlying causes(s).

A universe full of non-random happenings is a universe that was planned. If there is anything like evolution in existence, it was planned that way by whatever put the universe together. It is not the evolution that our evolution theory suggests.

Cool

Yes, they are CAUSED by chemical and photolytic damage to DNA, and remain due to the imperfect nature of the DNA repair machinery. Beneficial changes PERSIST due to natural selection. Science doesn't claim to KNOW anything, we simply offer the current best fit as determined by the totality of evidence available.

You are right. You are talking about mutations that are caused by something. Those things were caused by other things. And those by others. What you are saying is that cause and effect did it. This means that we have to back beyond evolution and find out how cause and effect started before we can begin to think about whther or not there is truth to evolution.

The "current best fit" of scientists leaves all-pervading cause and effect out of the evolution equation. Therefore, it is not a realistic best fit.

Cool

You keep on banging on about evolution being false because we can't explain the exact way it came about due to cause and effect, and yet you believe in the unmoved mover fallacy.

Your God, supposedly eternal, immutable and without cause, the uncaused origin of everything..... Doesn't that seem hypocritical?
2309  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:35:18 PM

These are all valid possibilities to the origin of life, the first is similar to the panspermia theory, where life is carried from planet to planet by asteroids, or possibly other life.

The second is the simulated universe hypothesis, whereby we are actually being simulated on a hyper-advanced computer.

Again, your word "possibilities" shows that we don't really know about evolution as a unit theory. Certainly many parts of what is suggested to be evolution have been proven factual. But they have been proven factual for other lines of thinking than evolution at the same time. The evolution theory is a mere story.

Cool

Even if parts of evolution have been proven factual, NONE of religion has been proven factual. Science has the guts to say it doesn't yet know the answers to everything, religion claims to know the answer to everything, and does not change in the face of new information.

Most people don't want to know the truth, they want reassurance that they already know the truth.

Thank you.

Since evolution has been proven non-factual as a whole, and even as a theory, believers in it have a relgion going for themselves.

Cool

I didn't say evolution has been proven non-factual as a whole. I'm saying evolution is a known FACT, we don't know 100% of the mechanisms involved because it happens over such extreme timescales, but we have proven that the broad effects are true. Religion is the belief without evidence, science is the generation of a best fit model based on the evidence available, one is based on complete delusions (religion), the other is based experimental analysis, the scientific method and constant attempts to stress test the results.
2310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:27:30 PM

Why do you still want to prove that you don't understand what a theory is?

''Haven't you realized, yet, that "something" and the "theory of something" are two different things? Black holes are factual. They are anomalies that we have given the name "black hole." But we don't really have much of a clue about "black hole theory" being the true explanation of what black holes really are.''

You are right, evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution is what explains it.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate
http://www.askamathematician.com/2013/03/q-why-doesnt-life-and-evolution-violate-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-dont-living-things-reverse-entropy/
http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


You are right, everyone can look up how these things do not disprove evolution whatsoever, only in your mind Smiley

Again, the only way evolution theory is accurate is within the theory. It doesn't fit a whole bunch of things in reality.

Cool

What does not fit? Still have not found anything that does not fit evolution. You know evolution takes time! lots of time.

Everything that fits the evolution idea can fit other things, as well. Some of the things are entirely false even for evolution. One example is random mutations.

There is no random. The law of cause and effect, upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows this.

Everything in the universe came about either by:
1. Cause and effect, or;
2. We don't know how it came about
However, because of the tremendous number of "things" that we know exist due to C&E, and because of the fact that we have not found even one thing that we know has pure random behind it, C&E stands as science law.

What does this mean regarding evolution mutations? It means that they have been caused by something. They are not random. Our idea of random only exists because we are too "weak" to see the complex, underlying causes(s).

A universe full of non-random happenings is a universe that was planned. If there is anything like evolution in existence, it was planned that way by whatever put the universe together. It is not the evolution that our evolution theory suggests.

Cool

Yes, they are CAUSED by chemical and photolytic damage to DNA, and remain due to the imperfect nature of the DNA repair machinery. Beneficial changes PERSIST due to natural selection. Science doesn't claim to KNOW anything, we simply offer the current best fit as determined by the totality of evidence available.

Religion claims to KNOW the answers, just like the ancient greeks KNEW Helios pulled the sun across the sky with his chariot, and that Atlas held the world upon his shoulders. Just like the Hindus offered sacrifices to Indra to make it rain, because they knew Indra controls the condensation evaporation cycle. You theists sure seem to know a lot of BS.
2311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 02:24:21 PM
I do believe that God exist. Everything you see is a proof of his existence. Its not like "to see is to believe" kind of thing. Its a mystery on how he work wonders. Even impossible things can happen if there's a faith involved.

Please show me some of these "impossible" things that have occurred due to faith alone? Seriously, we live in an age of cameras, there should be thousands of these miracles on Youtube right?

You theists are hilarious, you believe that all the 3000+ other Gods are made up fantasies, but your God.... Yours exists right, because you know so.

Because you've got a single book and a few scriptures written thousands of years ago, you weigh these against the many thousands of scientific books, and decide that yours is correct?

I find it truly disgusting how people can be so ignorant.
2312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:18:50 PM

These are all valid possibilities to the origin of life, the first is similar to the panspermia theory, where life is carried from planet to planet by asteroids, or possibly other life.

The second is the simulated universe hypothesis, whereby we are actually being simulated on a hyper-advanced computer.

Again, your word "possibilities" shows that we don't really know about evolution as a unit theory. Certainly many parts of what is suggested to be evolution have been proven factual. But they have been proven factual for other lines of thinking than evolution at the same time. The evolution theory is a mere story.

Cool

Exactly that is why it is just a theory.  It is a complete theory or analysis or guess by the scientist which does not occur.  It is a pure scientific guess on how this one creature became like this because of the evolution theory.  The thinking that we came from monkeys are really absurd.  All the gorillas or monkeys in the cage should become humans right now.

What a ridiculous response, I notice that all those respondants clearly have no idea what the actual theory of evolution is.

NOBODY said we evolved from monkeys, monkeys, apes and humans share a common ancestor, meaning we all evolved from a common ancestor, and obviously diverged along that path.

Interesting how religiosity and low intelligence are positively correlated.
2313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: December 03, 2017, 02:11:00 PM

These are all valid possibilities to the origin of life, the first is similar to the panspermia theory, where life is carried from planet to planet by asteroids, or possibly other life.

The second is the simulated universe hypothesis, whereby we are actually being simulated on a hyper-advanced computer.

Again, your word "possibilities" shows that we don't really know about evolution as a unit theory. Certainly many parts of what is suggested to be evolution have been proven factual. But they have been proven factual for other lines of thinking than evolution at the same time. The evolution theory is a mere story.

Cool

Even if parts of evolution have been proven factual, NONE of religion has been proven factual. Science has the guts to say it doesn't yet know the answers to everything, religion claims to know the answer to everything, and does not change in the face of new information.

Most people don't want to know the truth, they want reassurance that they already know the truth.
2314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 02:07:03 PM
I'm a Scientist, have been for most of my life. I have NEVER believed in a supreme being, despite going to Catholic schools my entire life.

I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God? How can you argue for his existence? Please bare the following in mind when you answer;

1. There are literally thousands of religions, each of which has members that believe just as firmly as you do, they say they feel a personal connection with God, they have their own religious books and doctrines etc, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a muslim, in Ireland you would be a protestant, seems like the place you are born denotes your religion, rather than divine intervention. Obviously you can't all be right, so how do you know YOU are.

2. Most religions state that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all-present and eternal. If this is the case, why are people punished for sins by an all loving God, who predestined them to commit their sins by knowing the future? Why is there bone cancer in Children, and insects that burrow into the eyes of infants making them blind, could an all loving God not have imagined a reality without this? And why is there such overwhelming evidence AGAINST the existence of a creator?

3. Since the scientific era God has slowly receded into the shadows, God used to be held responsible for most things, e.g. people offered sacrifices for good health, prayed for rain, thought that God pulled the sun across the sky, created plagues etc. Now we know he does none of these, and God has been reduced to a "God of the gaps" whereby he is still attributed to things we cannot yet explain with science, doesn't seem very powerful anymore.

I'll try to respond to the major points in this thread attempting to dismantle them.
Yes of course! I do believe that God exist, without God were not here, God created Us, God created the Universe, God I very powerful because God created a very wonderful things that we can see here in Earth. Every scientist want to know if how beautiful things created.

You seem like quite the intelligent, rational fellow. You've converted me.
2315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
I don't believe in God when I was a child. Today I believe in Him for many reasons.
1. If big bang theory was true who created the matter?
2. Everything is temporary.
3. Love exist but untouchable.
ET'C.
I believe because of matter, temporary and love. There is a thing beyond our imagination. Thank you

None of these are beyond our imagination;

1. The big bang is the beginning of all matter, before it matter did not exist. Prior to the big bang there was expansion of the scalar field, fluctuations in the scalar field lead to the conditions prior to the big bang.

2. Everything is temporary, how exactly is that proof of God? As far as we are aware time may be infinite, whilst we may live in a bounded universe.

3. Love is simply a chemical cascade occurring within the brain, the effects of oxytocin and vasopressin lead to pair bonding in mammals, individuals deficient in these suffer deficits in their ability to experience love.

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If God exists and we do not realize it, then we live without understanding the basic truth in the universe. God has unlimited power and wants to use it for our good. The Bible describes him as a loving father who is willing to help us

The bible also teaches you to dash disabled children against a rock to kill them, and that slavery is perfectly fine.

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if you ask your question  how the human body functions, there is no doubt in me that God exists. Every part of our body, even the smallest, has its role

Every part of a car has its function, and yet was not created by God. Many parts of our body do not have a role, they are called vestigial organs. Furthermore, the human body is flawed, it accumulates damage over time, the repair processes fail and we develop tissues that are harmful for our continued survival. For such a perfect being, God didn't do a good job.

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Your best chance of finding a safe 1.5% monthly yield is to invest in the bankroll of a trusted gambling site,

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2317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: How to view addresses after sending bitcoin? (bitcoin core) on: December 03, 2017, 12:08:48 PM
Do you have the transaction ID associated with the transfer?
2318  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: BTC to Sterling on: December 03, 2017, 12:06:12 PM
One of the easiest ways is via Localbitcoins, though there is a small fee for their service.

You can also open a currency exchange thread here, I'd be interested in doing an exchange if the rates are good.
2319  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 12:04:59 PM
Cause we all know that God created us and it is in the mind if all people .

It is not in my mind, in fact over time religion is falling out of favor, there is an increase in atheist groups, and agnosticism is on the rise.

Seems like soon enough, religion will be a thing of the past as science confidently explains all which was once attributed to God.
2320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: December 03, 2017, 12:03:20 PM
Because beginning of life and after life are the two main things that we want to know. But science is not able to explain them.

Science is quite capable of explaining them, and these have been intricately explained.

Seems like a lot of people "know" there is a creator, they just know it, excellent evidence right there. Did you know that in court, witness testimony is considered the lowest form of evidence?
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