Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............
He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again. Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing. Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman. More money and much lighter preparation if Manny will choose to do exhibition for sure there are a still lot of fans who wanted to witness him inside the ring, but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove. Yes, Pacman knows that his presence is already missed by the fans around the world and giving them an exhibition fight will surely delight them, no doubt that this fight will garner millions of dollars in-terms of revenues again and hopefully soon we can see Mayweather and Pacman again sharing the same ring even if it is an exhibition fight. ...but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove. I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain. |
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^ It could be a big amount but I don't think it will affect the entire operation, Stake has been here for how many years and I think that is long enough for them to save a million dollars for their revenue.
Sure, they can have a million saved up, probably much more than that, but it's 400 million. If they settle for half of that it's still going to hurt. I don't know how much they have but even rich businesses don't have 400m to spend it's all tied up into expenses, loans, stuff like that. They could get that money but it would mean closing down. On the other hand it makes you think how much Stake is making in revenue. He had to know if he asked for 400m. If the business was making 10m a year he wouldn't be asking for 400 that's just my thought. They must be able to pay that much if he's asking for it. The plaintiff of course knew how much does the Stake earns annually because he is a former partner of the Stake, he wouldn't be asking for that kind of humungous amount if the Stake is earning much lower annually. Maybe that $400 Million is not a big amount for the said company but I don't think that they will be willing to give that amount and based on case filed, the Stake might win the case soon. Anyway, I've looked and search the Stake.com, it says here that the company has an estimated value amounting to $1 Billion. |
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^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis. There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot. Exactly the reason why we are here in this thread discussing and speculating on what will be the nearest possible outcome of the fight, we cannot hide the fact the Shakur here has the upper hand compared to Robson and we can say that because Shakur undoubtedly defeated Valdez while Robson fell short against Valdez. Sure, Robson has some chance but it's just low while Shakur needed to prove his strength again and why he has the belt and not Robson. |
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They got lucky with that one, but at the same time Schroeder is also lucky as he might struggle to get a contract if Lakers did not signed him.
It's his 2nd chance, I'm sure he can prove himself, but hopefully he will not decline a possible offer for extension.
Disagree with you both. Lakers got a lucky signing at Schroder? If you guys didn't know, no teams got interested in signing Schroder, only the Lakers, and look at what they offered, so low because they just want to give him chance. Schroder is the one that got lucky that the Lakers give him a chance. If he is really a potential player, why his former teams decided not to sign him anymore? For the Lakers this is probably the best they could have hoped for. They don't have the money to sign anyone special and Schroeder is more than decent for that kind of money. He is a serviceable veteran who can help them run the point. As long as the big guys stay healthy he won't need to score, just run a turnover free point and that's all they need from him. It's a win-win situation for the both sides, Schroder needs this contract to prove that he can be of use to any team that is interested to him and the Lakers also needed an extra pair of hands to man their defense that doesn't have expensive salary. Moreover, Schroder won't be trying so hard in playing the EuroLeague if he doesn't have any plans, he surely knows that there will be scouts watching and he's right, because of that he managed to sign another contract. |
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it took 12 rounds and a decision to defeat GGG. seem not a real fight to me actually. canelo seem very careful in getting too close to fight toe to toe. no highlight that really inflicts damage. its either that or he makes sure the crowd will enjoy a 12 round fight for the independence day celebration. anyone see it like this is an exhibition fight?
GGG is also too cautious making him lose rounds. There are opportunities where GGG can land solid punches but being too cautious making him miss those opportunities. The fight is like wait and counter making jobs a more effective way to score. GGG throws jobs but most of them got deflected or blocked by Canelo's defense, while Canelos land more punches by sneaking body shot, hooks and uppercut. Canelo somehow stole rounds by landing combinations impressing the judges. It is indeed a close fight but the result says it. Canelo wins the fight but it was too close, IMO. ^ Due to Golovin prolonging the fight and failing to knock him out, the fight was expected to go Canelo's way; therefore, the decision would go against GGG. I had expected GGG to come out a little more aggressively since I believe he was also aware that if it was a decision, he wasn't going to win. However, it is likely that he wanted to fight the way he does best. I believe that he is still capable of fighting and I think that he can continue to do so. It should not be viewed as a career-ending decision for him since he is already on track to become a legend. It is my belief that he will still be able to continue fighting for at least two more years, if not more. well, we did see the GGG has still the stamina to last 12 rounds despite of his age. so yeah, maybe he won't retire yet. but if he doesn't want to prove anything anymore, he can always retire and call it a day. enjoy the remaining years of his life without any bad injury from boxing. and for canelo, at least he got his winnings to get going with his career. because if he lost this fight, his bankability will go down because of the consecutive losses. Yes, we saw that GGG can still keep up with one of the best boxer in the industry and at the age of 40 years old, he can still give struggles to the current undisputed champion and pound for pound king, Canelo Alvarez. That reasons alone proved that GGG is really one of a kind boxer and deserves credits for all he attained in this sports. He can still do some few fights if he would like to before he decides to hang up his gloves. |
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Signing Schroeder at that price is a lucky break fpr the Lakers. One that they badly needed too I must say. At least now they don't have to worry too much about an underperforming WB since they have someone willing to prove himself again.
They got lucky with that one, but at the same time Schroeder is also lucky as he might struggle to get a contract if Lakers did not signed him. It's his 2nd chance, I'm sure he can prove himself, but hopefully he will not decline a possible offer for extension. ... Slimmer and looks more fit.
Following the Howard strategy eh? Good for him. Maybe not a bad deal for teams if they can sign at minimum for a veteran. He is serious, he wants to be faster and less prone to injury, well, I understand him because teams would not sign a liability even if they know how talented Cousins is. |
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This time, I don't think Ginebra will win the championship again despite having Brownlee who is undeniably a good import, why? Because with a healthy Fajardo, he can still dominate inside and with the help of their import, it will be easier for him. If we have a championship odds now, I'm guessing SMB will be the top favorites to win.
SMB is like having 2 imports in the upcoming conference now that JuneMar Fajardo is playing like in his prime. In the last conference, he is consistent in doing a monster performance from eliminations, quarterfinals, and semi-finals up to the Finals. Only an import can stop him but if that's the case, how can teams able to stop the real import of SMB? SMB is like a tough team to beat again. CJ Perez is also playing in his prime and Terrene Romeo might return next conference. There are also other big men in the SMB that is tough to guard like Mo Tautaa and Vic Manuel. A powerhouse team. I agree with that, they are the powerhouse team now because Fajardo is healthy already. Mo Tautua alone can give problem to an import, so the import of the SMB is so lucky that he does not have to carry the team or defend well as there are other players that could do that. But Brownlee can always make a difference, that's why Ginebra will always get him as their import. There are times in the past when SMB have a healthy Fajardo and yet Brownlee can still beat them. I think next to SMB, Ginebra will have a chance of winning a championship also, which makes this commissioner's cup more interesting to watch. |
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Can the Lakers still offer Dennis with that same amount?
I think he is a legit player, he can even lead a team, it's just that he was too ambitious and ended up losing a big offer. If he will be given a chance, I think he will be a big help for the Lakers to be more competitive this season.
Yes, that's possible but for me, low chance. There might be an increase in the contract extension if he plays well but not maybe close to what has been offered to him before. Never heard of him doing a spectacular performance on other teams after Los Angeles Lakers. He is now more of a pure role player and not the main guy that can carry a team. I'm thinking, what if Westbrook will fail again and Dennis will provide what the team needs from Westbrook? For sure, he will get a big reward for that, will be offered will a big contract while Westbrook is gonna be up for a trade. It's weird but it's possible as Dennis is just a consistent player, more if he is given more minutes. |
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I noticed an interesting thing about this fight: Golovkin can win, but most likely only by knockout - he is too old to last the whole distance of the fight and win on points.
I don't agree with you that GGG can't last the whole fight just because of his age. He has the stamina to last long. But likely, if the fight went to a decision, Canelo might be the winner. GGG can only win by Knock Out or he is evident the clear winner of each round like what happened when Bivol got the unanimous win against the favorite Canelo. Canelo is the current cash cow and the result might get influenced in favor of him. If there's a manipulation then most likely Canelo will win again. GGG does believe that he will be robbed again if he will not KO Canelo, so it's going to be a hard job for him knocking out Canelo because the champ is a younger guy and still on his prime. What I expect in this game is that it's gonna be an entertaining fight, but most of us believe Canelo will win via decision. Would you agree with that? |
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Dennis was part of those players that haven't got a contract, and he is just lucky that the Lakers have signed him up again and definitely, he still wanted to play in the NBA so he accept it although he could have been more than that a year or two ago.
And this is another lesson for those players that if they have been offered a good contract, no need to price themselves up because it might bite them in the ass.
Might be interesting though to see him with Westbrook on the floor or even Pat Beverly, not sure if there will be chemistry issues or not.
Can the Lakers still offer Dennis with that same amount? I think he is a legit player, he can even lead a team, it's just that he was too ambitious and ended up losing a big offer. If he will be given a chance, I think he will be a big help for the Lakers to be more competitive this season. |
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Anyway, Silva in any case has an advantage over Paul, this is his experience, but the almost two-fold age difference minimizes this advantage, by the way, Paul says that he really wants to knock out Silva, but as he said with respect, or maybe not, I still wish Silva a victory.  Age is not really a big factor in fights that can be viewed as an advantage, I mean, what can that age do if you're not equipped with the right tools to defeat an experienced veteran fighter who has a strong IQ? As for Jake Paul, he is not a so called professional boxer because he is just fighting MMA fighters who are way past their prime, and now this fight will add to that record he is boasting. Thinking skills of a person become less sharper through age same with the body agility. Silva IQ and thinking skills is not that sharp anymore that’s why his moves becomes slower and less agile base on his previous matches on pro. Brain thinks first before body reacts and if the human physical body became slower means his brain is getting slower to process data too. Jake undergo special training dedicated on this sports so I’m sure he is prepared on this kind of match. He knew how smart Silva is inside the octagon so he might be developing a strategy to counter it. We cannot say that for sure because we haven't saw Silva lately and we are just giving pure speculations based on what the most old fighter experienced but the muscle memory can be a big help when it comes to a fight because your brain doesn't have to predict alone as the muscles are already trained for it, that said, the process will be much shorter and that makes Silva react quite early. Though I cannot deny that his chances are still low because he lacks defense and the fight will be held in the ring not in the octagon, so that means conserving his energy and stamina is a challenge for him because he is not used to it and a full 12-round fight can be a very long time for an MMA fighter. |
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No doubt, strategy wise, it might be better if he thinks of surviving the full 12 rounds. Just play defense and try to counter and score points. But if he is man enough as he have said in interviews, he will go toe to toe and ended up in the canvass for good 10 count, Body shots or that left of Inoue, which is very quick but and if hits Butler on the chin or in the temple, it will be a ko win again for the Monster.
Paul Butler should just go toe to toe. It's a rare chance to have a chance fighting Naoya Inoue so better feel the pain of punches that Inoue will land on him. If Butler will just run, he will just be part of an embarrassing history that runs throughout the match just to avoid the heavy punch of Inoue. If he will fight toe to toe, he might even get respect from anyone including Naoya Inoue and prove that even though he is up against a monster and as a super heavy underdog, he is not afraid to show what he got. I agree even though it's easier said than done because we aren't the ones who will face the monster of Japan soon  But yes, if Butler will just run mostly throughout the fight, he will probably be teased and embarrassed by the public because of the cowardice he showed. Yet he will be respected if he goes head-to-head towards Inoue without backing down an inch, bruises will be healed but respect is earned. Anyway, only Butler can answer that for us if he truly a man of himself just like what he said recently. |
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No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.
I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol. Aside from GGG, the whole public and the boxing industry knows about that too that's why I'm thinking that the judges this time might refrain from their habits of helping Canelo in terms of scores if ever the fight will get to the judge's hand once again. However, GGG shouldn't rely from that alone and should do his job as well in finishing the fight as early as he could so that the fight won't reach into the judge's hands. Is the judges name have been announce already? The reason why I'm asking is that we need to get the names of them and see if they have previously been involved in some unfair scoring or maybe they are on the Canelo's bandwagon? I think that will be the aim for both of them, then will want to finished the fight as early and not let it go to the judges hands because there could be another controversy and the boxing community will surely be in an uproar if the judges didn't get it right again. I dug some information and fortunately, I found the names of the judges who will be there in their fight later and among those judges, there's this Dave Moretti who was also present in their first two fights and then Steve Weisfeld who was also present in the rematch and the 3rd one is new. And I found out too that the 2 stated names of the judges were almost present in every fights of Canelo. Coincidence? Here's some links for basis: A Look At The Judges For Canelo-Golovkin 3List of Canelo's fights and its Judges |
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Too premature to say that the Lakers will be having that outcome or at least the same results they got last season, the season hasn't started yet and we might see some changes in their roster in the next few days.
I think you're probably right that a big change is coming for them in the near future. Russell Westbrook just put his multimillion-dollar Los Angeles home up for sale, so he's expecting to need to find a new place to live in the near future. I would think that you wouldn't put your home up for sale unless you knew that a change in scenery was imminent, which leads me to believe in spite of all the friendly talk, Pat Beverly and Russell Westbrook won't be playing on the same team. I'm even starting to wonder if picking up Pat Bev was a way to help nudge Russell towards a buyout. That too might be just a pure coincidence, we don't really know for sure. It might be best to sit for a while and wait for the upcoming changes because finding a new home for Westbrook might take a long time especially now that the season is about to start, so the other teams in the league are already busy preparing for it. But if he won't be traded then we will see Pat Bev and Westbrook playing along side like what coach Darvin said. |
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He tried to do what he had to do at the same time and he won at some point in time but later on Pacman realized that he is not getting any younger and should only pick one fight at a time that's why he retired after he lost to Ugas and focused on politics as he is also busy at that time for the presidential election.
Now, that he almost got all the time in the world, and just like what we've speculated, Pacman is not coming back but on an exhibition fight.
With the losses that he's made, that also made him realize that he's aged although he can still really box well. But age does really play a factor for athletes like in boxing. That's right! But if only Manny Pacquiao wasn't that busy enough in his last fight then I seriously bet that the outcome of the fight would be much different and Yordenis Ugas would be the one who got defeated. Pacquiao was too busy that time he is also a senator while he is also preparing to run for presidency and then he got a fight. |
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Zurdo is also motivated by the thought of avenging his fellow countryman Canelo.
Not true. There's no way Zurdo has a thought to avenge Canelo from Bivol. I don't see how he will do that as he has his own legacy. Zurdo was even disappointed with Canelo as the latter is not giving him a chance to fight him because Canelo doesn't want to fight his fellow countryman. And for Mexicans, there's no avenging thing or stuff. During the time their boxers are beaten badly by Manny Pacquiao, those Mexicans are fighting to have a big achievement by defeating Manny, not to avenge their fellowman that got beaten by Manny. Yup, Zurdo fighting with Bivol now has nothing to do with Canelo's defeat nor avenging his fellow countryman, people should know that there's no vendetta kind of thing between Mexican boxers in case one of their own gets defeated and then someone will step up for revenge. Zurdo is taking aim with Bivol to carve his own legacy because Bivol is his ticket to get an undisputed fight with Artur Beterbiev. |
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Anyway, Silva in any case has an advantage over Paul, this is his experience, but the almost two-fold age difference minimizes this advantage, by the way, Paul says that he really wants to knock out Silva, but as he said with respect, or maybe not, I still wish Silva a victory. Age is not really a big factor in fights that can be viewed as an advantage, I mean, what can that age do if you're not equipped with the right tools to defeat an experienced veteran fighter who has a strong IQ? As for Jake Paul, he is not a so called professional boxer because he is just fighting MMA fighters who are way past their prime, and now this fight will add to that record he is boasting. Jake Paul wants to knock out Anderson Silva but the question for that is, can he really do that? I doubt it. Maybe the opposite thing will happen  |
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No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.
I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol. Aside from GGG, the whole public and the boxing industry knows about that too that's why I'm thinking that the judges this time might refrain from their habits of helping Canelo in terms of scores if ever the fight will get to the judge's hand once again. However, GGG shouldn't rely from that alone and should do his job as well in finishing the fight as early as he could so that the fight won't reach into the judge's hands. |
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As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank. It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division. Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia. Well, I see the Gervonta Davis thing as too rushed, for me apart from the fact that it is going from one category to another where he has not received the weight of the blows of that category, it seems to me somewhat daring to go for Gervonta Davis once, he has experience and for It would be great to be able to measure himself against such a fight, the advantage will obviously be Gervonta Davis, I don't know what strategy he can offer, if I were a boxer it would take at least a month to adapt to the weight, to adapt to the type of training that is much stronger For the one in the lighter weight category, it would really seem very risky to do so. Right? It's not good for him to keep on rushing things because that will just pave a way for his possible defeat and thinking that he can do the job done against Gervonta Davis during his debut in lightweight is much worse. Shakur is a decent boxer but he shouldn't force his luck just because he keeps on winning in super-featherweight now. His pretty record will be wasted if he won't test the water first. |
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Hot topics are still about the Lakers, Lebron, AD, and Russ.
1 more month to go and the new season starts. I honestly would like to see Russ traded so the Lakers will have a strong line-up with no excuses if they can't compete on top. But I agree with the odds, the Boston Celtics are the real favorites next season with even more additional acquisitions for this season. My main focus will be on the 76ers and T'wolves though. I am just super curious about how the new twin towers perform when the league is currently going smaller.
Any NBA ESPN or Yahoo Fantasy player here?
I agree with you that the Boston Celtics are the real favorite next season but I also have to say that if the players are in good form the Lakers can also be really deadly in every match. But for that King LeBron James and his teammates have to play really well. I think that if LeBron James can get enough support from his teammates, the Lakers will do really well this season. But also I am concerned that injurious might have a really bad effect on the Lakers as I think that their players are quite fragile compared to other teams. Honestly, I don't think the Celtics will be a favorite, and it's unlikely they'll be able to reach the final series again. As for the Lakers, it's pretty hard to predict their results in the upcoming season because Westbrook is unpredictable, and Davis is unreliable due to injury prone. It seems to me the Lakers can only reach the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs. At least I wouldn't expect much more from them. Too premature to say that the Lakers will be having that outcome or at least the same results they got last season, the season hasn't started yet and we might see some changes in their roster in the next few days. Speaking of the upcoming new season, the Celtics won't be the favorite because they will be one of the few favorites to win in the Finals this time. Honestly, you're quite underestimating the Celtics because I don't think that there are some reasons that they cannot go that far this season as they are now much stronger because of the experience they acquired as well as the other young teams who made the conference finals. |
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