Fredomago
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1054
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 09, 2022, 07:59:06 PM |
|
Yep Conceicao have an Olympic gold medal on 2016, World championship silver and bronze medal on 2013 and 2015, and silver Pan American silver medal on 2011. But honestly, it's much easier than getting a world belt since the opponent I see are unknown. IMO the medal he got isn't really make he's a tough boxer.
That's what makes this fight special because both of them are somewhat the same in terms of their strength but only Robson has less experience fighting in a professional bout which gives Shakur a slight advantage. But in terms of winning percentage via knockout, they are the same, and only those who have some special skills will be an advantage and have a higher chance to win. That's why Shakur has earned more votes to K.O his opponent. If we based ok experience especially in bigger fight then shakur the favorite it because he already experienced professional fights but in reality, we don't based on their achievements but we base on their strength, power and speed or in short we are focusing their skills and as we saw both fighters has a good record in their career. But in this fight ill go for Robson because based on his skills then he has a chance to win this fight . Maybe he can as the possibilities are always open to each fighters during the match, we don't know if how they prepared for this fight and most of the time upset and surprises happens when the two fighters are throwing punches, so far the chance are equal and even bookies gives their side to whoever they think got the upper hands we can't conclude the outcome of this fight. We can give our opinions based on how we review previous fights and statistics and most of the time we favor the fighter that we follow.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
Jating
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 09, 2022, 09:38:26 PM |
|
As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not.
|
|
|
|
Baofeng (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1674
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 09, 2022, 10:05:28 PM |
|
As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight.
|
| .DAKE.GG. | │ | ░░░░░░▄█████▄ ▄█████████████████▄ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░▄██▄ ██░░▀▀█░▀▀█░▀▀█░░██░░████ ██░░░█▀░░█▀░░█▀░░██░░░██ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░░██ ███████████████████░░░██ ▀█████████████████▀░░░██ █████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████▄▄▄██ █████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████▀▀▀▀ ░█████████████████ ░░▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ | | | .NEXT LEVEL CASINO & SLOTS. | | | ░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄ ░░░░████████▀▀▀▀ ░░░░██░▀░██░████████▄▄▄▄ ░░░░███▄███░█░░█████████ ░░░░░█████░█████████████ ░░░░░▀████░█████▀░█████ ▄▄▄▄▄░███░░███▀░░░░████ █▄█▄█░░██░███▄░░░░░▄██▀ █▄█▄█░░▀▀░▀████▄░▄████ ▄▄░░░░█████░██████████ ░▄▄▀░░██▄██░▀▀▀▀█████ ░░░░█░▀▀▀▀▀ | │ | | | │ | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
Jating
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 10, 2022, 10:36:18 AM |
|
As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank.
|
|
|
|
Baofeng (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1674
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 10, 2022, 10:00:24 PM |
|
^^ Yes, for sure a lot of good options for him. Doesn't necessarily fighting Tank at 135 lbs, as you have said, Rolly Romero and Isaac Cruz or even Jojo Diaz and then number 6 William Zepeda. So far 135 lbs looks like this:
Haney Loma Davis Kambosos Ryan Garcia
And then the fighter that I mentioned in the top 6 to 11-15.
But we will have to wait for the result of this fight first. Shakur should focus on Robson before he talks about fighting Tank in 135 lbs.
|
| .DAKE.GG. | │ | ░░░░░░▄█████▄ ▄█████████████████▄ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░▄██▄ ██░░▀▀█░▀▀█░▀▀█░░██░░████ ██░░░█▀░░█▀░░█▀░░██░░░██ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░░██ ███████████████████░░░██ ▀█████████████████▀░░░██ █████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████▄▄▄██ █████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████▀▀▀▀ ░█████████████████ ░░▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ | | | .NEXT LEVEL CASINO & SLOTS. | | | ░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄ ░░░░████████▀▀▀▀ ░░░░██░▀░██░████████▄▄▄▄ ░░░░███▄███░█░░█████████ ░░░░░█████░█████████████ ░░░░░▀████░█████▀░█████ ▄▄▄▄▄░███░░███▀░░░░████ █▄█▄█░░██░███▄░░░░░▄██▀ █▄█▄█░░▀▀░▀████▄░▄████ ▄▄░░░░█████░██████████ ░▄▄▀░░██▄██░▀▀▀▀█████ ░░░░█░▀▀▀▀▀ | │ | | | │ | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
Kemarit
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3206
Merit: 1384
Fully Regulated Crypto Casino
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 11, 2022, 12:57:32 AM |
|
^^ Yes, for sure a lot of good options for him. Doesn't necessarily fighting Tank at 135 lbs, as you have said, Rolly Romero and Isaac Cruz or even Jojo Diaz and then number 6 William Zepeda. So far 135 lbs looks like this:
Haney Loma Davis Kambosos Ryan Garcia
And then the fighter that I mentioned in the top 6 to 11-15.
But we will have to wait for the result of this fight first. Shakur should focus on Robson before he talks about fighting Tank in 135 lbs.
Jojo Diaz could be a tailor made fight for Shakur at 135, in paper Diaz seems to be very good and a contender. But I think Shakur can beat him hands down. Isaac Cruz and Rolly Romero might be dangerous for him because both have power in hands. Rolly Romero is awkward and might throw him off because he can find his spot, same as with Isaac Cruz. Those overhead shots might find it's target but Shakur can weathered that storm and win by decision.
|
|
|
|
LUCKMCFLY
Legendary
Online
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1873
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 11, 2022, 03:18:17 PM |
|
Judging by the bookmakers' bets on this fight, Stevenson looks like a clear favorite and, as it seems to me objectively, he is 8 years younger than Conceicao, while they have the same experience in professional boxing, Stevenson is more technical and hardy, so Conceicao has very slim chances.
Yeah, I also check the odds and there are no chances, Stevenson is way ahead is sport bookies and there is no value bet on him on the ML odds. And Stevenson has all the tolls and advantage in this fight. I just want Robson though to give Shakur all he can take, Herring and Valdez I would say is a clear and dominant win by Shakur. So hopefully we will see him react is push comes to shove. Robson can do that similar to what he did against Oscar Valdez and almost won that fight. Well as I said before, sometimes the statistics and numbers can be seen in a very optimistic way, but when I see something like that, and see so much difference, before making a determination, what I do is verify all the pertinent information and that I can get from the boxers, if there are interviews too, incredible things happen in the interviews because they give details of their training, they say how and how many hours a day they train, and I am in favor of a boxer who is very constant with his training and who If you have more hours of it, it is very likely that you will win, I know, because I also practiced contact sports, and when a training session is superior, it weighs heavily on the rival. As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. The truth is I don't think he has signed an agreement with May, however for me Shakur has a very high level compared to the other boxers and he has shown it in his fights, there is no need to try to say what he has achieved because his reputation speaks for itself, whoever he is going to be with will still have many victories to live, now with Conceicao I would not say that it is an easy fight, the boxer knows very well that he should not go for a quick knockout because Shakur clearly will not leave and I think that he has enough preparation not to let himself be given something like that, therefore Conceicao will have to have a better strategy to face him, since what is being measured here is the intelligence of each one.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
Japinat
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 12, 2022, 04:47:19 PM |
|
As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank. It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division. Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia.
|
|
|
|
freedomgo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1152
Fully Regulated Crypto Casino
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 14, 2022, 06:26:43 PM |
|
As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank. It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division. Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia. Well said, but as of now, it is not clear yet that Shakur is indeed having some troubles keeping his weight inside 130 lbs. and we will know soon if that news is true in their upcoming weight in as we will likely have the information we are trying to find regarding that issue. It's much better if he can maintain his weight until we can witness an undisputed fight in super-featherweight before he moves in lightweight division.
|
|
|
|
LUCKMCFLY
Legendary
Online
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1873
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 15, 2022, 03:40:33 AM |
|
There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.
I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.
Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare. But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately. Well, maybe betting everything on Conceicao is a bit irreverent with the statistics, but I know that anything can happen in favor of either of them, Shakur without a doubt when making a bet, he will have many scores in his favor, instead the bet in favor of Conceicao will be very low, which means that if he wins, he can take a good turn in terms of the payment of said winning bet, but this is something that goes beyond emotions, perhaps the reason in That moment may not be in its total balance, but what I do not want is for this fight to become in a very technical sense, where the judges have to give their final verdict. As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank. It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division. Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia. Well, I see the Gervonta Davis thing as too rushed, for me apart from the fact that it is going from one category to another where he has not received the weight of the blows of that category, it seems to me somewhat daring to go for Gervonta Davis once, he has experience and for It would be great to be able to measure himself against such a fight, the advantage will obviously be Gervonta Davis, I don't know what strategy he can offer, if I were a boxer it would take at least a month to adapt to the weight, to adapt to the type of training that is much stronger For the one in the lighter weight category, it would really seem very risky to do so. As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank. It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division. Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia. Well said, but as of now, it is not clear yet that Shakur is indeed having some troubles keeping his weight inside 130 lbs. and we will know soon if that news is true in their upcoming weight in as we will likely have the information we are trying to find regarding that issue. It's much better if he can maintain his weight until we can witness an undisputed fight in super-featherweight before he moves in lightweight division. For me, Shakur has great potential, I think if he can keep 130 pounds because he won't be able to give him the pleasure of losing to Conceicao for something like that, this article refers to what is in context: Shakur Stevenson Uncertain If He’ll Remain At 130 Pounds After Conceicao Fight“We gotta see,” Stevenson told BoxingScene.com before a recent press conference at Prudential Center. “It’s all up in the air right now. It’s all depending on how I’m feeling. Going up to 135 is not out the way and staying at 130 is not out the way. It’s all depending on what I feel and how I feel after this fight. So, we’re gonna see. Maybe I’ll go up to 135 for one fight, and then come back down to 130. You never know. I can play with it like that. I feel like I’m that good.” Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-uncertain-if-hell-remain-130-pounds-conceicao-fight--167918For me Shakur has a lot to offer, I think this is one of the reasons why he wants to gain weight and move up a category, however this shows that he wants to do things well and at a high level, my admiration for him, I hope things can turn out well for him, moving up a category can be difficult for a boxer, he's not used to his weight.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
electronicash
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1054
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 15, 2022, 06:32:50 AM |
|
^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list.
|
|
|
|
Japinat
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 15, 2022, 11:50:40 AM |
|
As per Shakur, we might see him moving up to 135 lbs sooner than expected because he admitted that his body has difficulty making the 130 lbs limit. “It all depends on the weight cut at the end of the day,” said Stevenson during an interview with Thaboxingvoice. “I done (did) amazing things at 130-pounds already. My last two fights to be specific, I done put on shows and I done did a lot at the weight, so if I struggle with the weight cut and it be hard on me, I think I’m going up to 135. Tell them boys get ready.” https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-move-up-135-sooner-expected-tell-them-boys-get-ready--168907And we all know that his target is Tank Davis. So if ever he wins and if he think that he is going to struggle to make the weight cut again, he will definitely go up. And then the 135 lbs will continue to be one of the most stock up weight classes. I'm not sure what he is obsessed with Tank though, maybe it's there contrasting style and that he wanted to see how he will fare against a good power puncher and his defense trying to elude that one punch that will change the course of the fight. And it's obvious that struggling to make weight, he should go to 135. But I'm not seeing him directly going up against the champion. Arum will have to set him up against perennial contender but not enough to pull an upset when he goes up. It's his confidence I guess, Shakur is coming up in the last couple of years while Tank has established his name already. And Shakur beat 2 champions in Herring and Oscar Valdez and that is enough for him to boost his confidence and thinks that he can beat anyone including Davis. But negotiations might not be enough as Tank is on the side of Floyd and we all know that Arum and Floyd has a bitter divorce, so not sure if this fight can be made in the future. And I'm also not sure though if Davis has sign a new contract with Floyd's promotional company or not. Not only that, but it's the only fight that make sense for him, as there will be money, huge money to be made by both fighters. So he is particularly zone in with Davis, and maybe just like what Ryan says, if the beat Davis, maybe they will get the respect that they needed. So all roads at 135 lbs money wise is Davis, but all the belts belong to Haney. So it's really up to him on which path he wanted, but it looks like Davis is his hit list for money and respect, it's just a matter on how he can demand Top Rank to give him that fight. There are a lot of options for him to be honest, it's that his main goal is Davis. He can wait for the Haney vs Kambosos fight or Loma. But he always insists on fight Davis right away when he moves up. Good test for him maybe the likes of Isaac Cruz or Rolly Romero to do if his defense will be effective to this big puncher at 135 lbs otherwise he might face a big knock out loss in the hands of Davis. Definitely there is money, but it might hurt him a bit at this new weight if he goes right away on Tank. It's not very clever if he rushes things just to get his much-awaited fight against Gervonta Davis, seriously that could wait. If he won't hold his horses then it's safe to assume that he is bound to get his first defeat if he goes straight to Davis when he starts to climb in the lightweight division. Yes, fighting Davis is indeed money that's why there have been a lot of boxers who wanted to fight him because of that fact but career-wise, Shakur should test the water first for his debut and it's much clever if he goes for Ryan Garcia first because that will surely hype his name if he can successfully defeat Garcia. Well, I see the Gervonta Davis thing as too rushed, for me apart from the fact that it is going from one category to another where he has not received the weight of the blows of that category, it seems to me somewhat daring to go for Gervonta Davis once, he has experience and for It would be great to be able to measure himself against such a fight, the advantage will obviously be Gervonta Davis, I don't know what strategy he can offer, if I were a boxer it would take at least a month to adapt to the weight, to adapt to the type of training that is much stronger For the one in the lighter weight category, it would really seem very risky to do so. Right? It's not good for him to keep on rushing things because that will just pave a way for his possible defeat and thinking that he can do the job done against Gervonta Davis during his debut in lightweight is much worse. Shakur is a decent boxer but he shouldn't force his luck just because he keeps on winning in super-featherweight now. His pretty record will be wasted if he won't test the water first.
|
|
|
|
Baofeng (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1674
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 15, 2022, 02:15:52 PM |
|
^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer.
|
| .DAKE.GG. | │ | ░░░░░░▄█████▄ ▄█████████████████▄ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░▄██▄ ██░░▀▀█░▀▀█░▀▀█░░██░░████ ██░░░█▀░░█▀░░█▀░░██░░░██ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░░██ ███████████████████░░░██ ▀█████████████████▀░░░██ █████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████▄▄▄██ █████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████▀▀▀▀ ░█████████████████ ░░▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ | | | .NEXT LEVEL CASINO & SLOTS. | | | ░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄ ░░░░████████▀▀▀▀ ░░░░██░▀░██░████████▄▄▄▄ ░░░░███▄███░█░░█████████ ░░░░░█████░█████████████ ░░░░░▀████░█████▀░█████ ▄▄▄▄▄░███░░███▀░░░░████ █▄█▄█░░██░███▄░░░░░▄██▀ █▄█▄█░░▀▀░▀████▄░▄████ ▄▄░░░░█████░██████████ ░▄▄▀░░██▄██░▀▀▀▀█████ ░░░░█░▀▀▀▀▀ | │ | | | │ | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
freedomgo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1152
Fully Regulated Crypto Casino
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 16, 2022, 12:40:35 PM |
|
^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
|
|
|
|
Baofeng (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1674
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 16, 2022, 11:31:05 PM |
|
^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis.
|
| .DAKE.GG. | │ | ░░░░░░▄█████▄ ▄█████████████████▄ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░▄██▄ ██░░▀▀█░▀▀█░▀▀█░░██░░████ ██░░░█▀░░█▀░░█▀░░██░░░██ ██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██░░░██ ███████████████████░░░██ ▀█████████████████▀░░░██ █████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████▄▄▄██ █████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████▀▀▀▀ ░█████████████████ ░░▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ | | | .NEXT LEVEL CASINO & SLOTS. | | | ░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄▄▄ ░░░░████████▀▀▀▀ ░░░░██░▀░██░████████▄▄▄▄ ░░░░███▄███░█░░█████████ ░░░░░█████░█████████████ ░░░░░▀████░█████▀░█████ ▄▄▄▄▄░███░░███▀░░░░████ █▄█▄█░░██░███▄░░░░░▄██▀ █▄█▄█░░▀▀░▀████▄░▄████ ▄▄░░░░█████░██████████ ░▄▄▀░░██▄██░▀▀▀▀█████ ░░░░█░▀▀▀▀▀ | │ | | | │ | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
LUCKMCFLY
Legendary
Online
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1873
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 17, 2022, 09:09:50 PM |
|
^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.
If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring. For sure, he is being trained by his grand father Wali Moses, so he is as old school as other trainer as you can get. Meaning, he would rather have his prize pupil to chase history first and not go for the money. Making a name at 130 lbs and having all the belts will be the best thing that Shakur could accomplished. So at least before he goes to the next weight class, he will be respected as he had the 4 belts including the lineal. And then he can go and fight Davis and whoever the champions at 135 lbs. Yes, 135 is what would be ideal, for me Shalkur is training with everything because he has a lot of motivation and there is nothing better than coming to a fight comfortable but not confident and with great motivation, what you say is true, the grandfather is coming of the old school and despite the fact that there are currently many methods to train and have the fastest and best results, the grandfather can teach him the traditional work with which he was trained for this type of fight, the truth is that I think that type of training it is superior to any other, without underestimating the current methods, they are also family and that gives it a different tint, nothing will be kept for your grandson to learn. ^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis. There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
Japinat
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 19, 2022, 05:11:22 PM |
|
^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis. There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot. Exactly the reason why we are here in this thread discussing and speculating on what will be the nearest possible outcome of the fight, we cannot hide the fact the Shakur here has the upper hand compared to Robson and we can say that because Shakur undoubtedly defeated Valdez while Robson fell short against Valdez. Sure, Robson has some chance but it's just low while Shakur needed to prove his strength again and why he has the belt and not Robson.
|
|
|
|
freedomgo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1152
Fully Regulated Crypto Casino
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 20, 2022, 07:40:23 PM |
|
^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis. Might be the case but people already know that almost is still not enough and fact is Valdez still won the fight, while Shakur defeated Valdez dominantly just like how the scorecard says. Don't know what Robson thinks that he can give to Shakur this time but the latter is straight as an arrow, so I definitely bet that he won't give Robson a chance to stop him. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis. Well see it soon if Shakur is indeed struggling to fit himself in 130 pounds because I think that is just a plain rumor. Also, if Shakur decides to go straight to Tank Davis on his debut in lightweight, chances are high that Tank will just embarrass Shakur.
|
|
|
|
LUCKMCFLY
Legendary
Online
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1873
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 21, 2022, 02:35:50 AM |
|
There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.
I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.
Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare. But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately. Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights. As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them. As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name. It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them. Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight. Well, the statistics may favor Shakur much more than Robson, but we all know very well that both boxers, at least for me, are at the same level, and this fight will bear very good fruit, because the bettors are active in everything, both in statistics As for the speculations of forums, of what they see on TV and on social networks, it is not because I go by the numbers or that I am a fan of the statistics, but I think that Shakur is the one who has the best chance of winning in this case, I don't know, I may be wrong, Robson's skills are very good too, it is difficult to establish which boxer has an advantage over the other. ^ how can one could not see the difference of the two by just looking at the odds. Shakur def has the edge of Rob. Rob is sure gonna be robbed. isn't this irresponsible for wbo and wbc to match robson who lost against valdez and then match to someone who beats valdez? shakur could fight a p4p and win by KO. robson is not ranked on p4p list. Robson is ranked number 2 by WBC and WBO, so I don't think it's irresponsible for them to match the champion of their belt at this weight division, against their second best. And if you have watch the fight between Robson Conceicao vs Oscar Valdez, it was very close, others might have scored it on favor of Robson. But the rest is history, Shakur defeated Valdez and the he is trying to clean up both divisions by fighting the second best rank boxer. Yup, there are indeed some people who are saying that Robson might have won that fight and base on the judge's score, the gap wasn't far enough to say that Valdez has won dominantly. Although, I've read too that people aren't happy why they are letting Robson face Shakur when in fact Robson lost to Valdez already. Perhaps that is the sticking point of this match, to see how Robson will fare against Shakur because he almost beat Valdez in their fight. Robson had the numbers but the judges think he didn't do enough to get a nod and win that fight. Anyway, this is the best chance for Shakur to prove again why he won against Valdez while Robson struggled to do so. As said above, Shakur is having a clean up program.
Or best way for Robson to show us his talent that he can hang with the best version of Shakur. And in the future, if Shakur decided to move up in wight, Robson might have a clear path to fight for the vacant belt. And on the other hand, if Shakur wins in dominant fashion, as he had said, he is having a hard time making 130 and so he might go up to 135 lbs and face his main target, Tank Davis. There are many speculations that occur around these two great boxers, for me Shakur is the undisputed favorite, but there is something that I have learned in sports and especially in boxing, it is that we cannot say who is going to win until he wins, So this means that each boxer has their plans, they are well built, the only thing missing is victory, because if not, it is like painting castles in the air, I have seen how boxers have done many ways to put together all their strategies and there is even a calendar, epro if they lose until then things come, the plans go to the ground and things go wrong, with respect to Conceicao, I think he could give a surprise, I don't know, I see him very safe and with a strong training, a very safe boxer It is more dangerous than one that has entered a lot. Exactly the reason why we are here in this thread discussing and speculating on what will be the nearest possible outcome of the fight, we cannot hide the fact the Shakur here has the upper hand compared to Robson and we can say that because Shakur undoubtedly defeated Valdez while Robson fell short against Valdez. Sure, Robson has some chance but it's just low while Shakur needed to prove his strength again and why he has the belt and not Robson. It is like that, as you say, of course this is something that we speculate, but despite the fact that Shakur has all the advantage, both in probabilities, statistics, it seems that Valdez does not have much to offer, however I think that Valdez can surprise us, every boxer who is somewhat influential knows that what is being handled is a lot of money, if he manages to turn all those speculations around, we could talk about a whole betting romp, because only those who win are the most believers in Valdez, that would be something interesting, and I think that the world of boxing also deserves some kind of surprises like that.
Here is something that might interest you: What is the fight card for Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao?![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8btvMlM.png&t=665&c=zxyX2wX-pQv4nw) There are a number of bouts set to take place on the fight card from the Prudential Center in New Jersey, including the return of Keyshawn Davis following his sixth-round TKO over Esteban Sanchez on the Oscar Valdez vs Stevenson card. Source: https://www.givemesport.com/88061548-shakur-stevenson-vs-robson-conceicao-fight-card
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
freedomgo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1152
Fully Regulated Crypto Casino
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
September 21, 2022, 08:05:02 PM |
|
There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.
I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.
Robson is a decent boxer and can keep up with other excellent boxers in the league too that's why he got this far but the downside is that he have some limitations on how long he can keep up, we saw how he was defeated by Valdez while Shakur didn't have some much trouble defeating Valdez and we can see that the scores are quite wide to compare. But I support you on your decision mate, Robson's odds is good if ever he wins in this fight but his chances are just slim. Anyway, we never know for sure because there has been lots of upsets lately. Robson and Shakur both have a very good track record when it comes to their fights. As of right now, Shakur has fought 18 fights and hasn't lost a single one of them. As well as Robson, he also fought 18 times. As of right now, he has 17 wins and one loss to his name. It looks like this will be a really close fight, based on the way it looks on paper. It is true that, at the same time, it does seem like the pendulum is a little bit heavy towards Shakur's side at the moment. But that does not mean Shakur is going to be the winner. There is no doubt that both fighters are very capable and that this is going to be a very interesting fight between them. Yes, they both have a good record in their respective career but we cannot really base everything in the paper as that's not how the winner of the fight is decided and perhaps watching their recent performances will help us to see who will likely dominate. Also, based on that, I think we can quite assume that it will be Shakur. But yes, it's not decided yet, so let's see it together in the day of their fight. Well, the statistics may favor Shakur much more than Robson, but we all know very well that both boxers, at least for me, are at the same level, and this fight will bear very good fruit, because the bettors are active in everything, both in statistics As for the speculations of forums, of what they see on TV and on social networks, it is not because I go by the numbers or that I am a fan of the statistics, but I think that Shakur is the one who has the best chance of winning in this case, I don't know, I may be wrong, Robson's skills are very good too, it is difficult to establish which boxer has an advantage over the other. In short, may it statistics/paper or chances, Shakur Stevenson has the higher hand on this fight compared to Robson even if we say that he's somehow a decent boxer. We cannot possibly deny that Shakur might have this fight like he's not struggling at all, we may wrong but sticking to chances, there's a big percentage that we are correct.
|
|
|
|
|