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2321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Claiming Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin SV? on: April 05, 2019, 07:22:41 AM
I claimed my bitcoin cash not long ago.  I had btc in electrum at the time of the bitcoin cash and gold fork. 


What program do i use to claim bitcoin gold that is legit?  I was told you can use bitcoingold.org or coinomi.  Thoughts on either of them


I did not claim bitcoin SV and did not claim bitcoin cash when the SV fork happened.  But that would mean my bitcoin cash was in electron cash right?  So how do i claim my bitcoin SV?


Also how many legit forks are there?  There is bitcoin cash and gold and SV.  But there were other forks i heard of like bitcoin private and many others.  Are those legit or not?  Or its only bitcoin cash, gold and SV? 


Thanks.
2322  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 05, 2019, 06:47:37 AM
To those who claimed Bitcoin Gold, which wallet did you use?


HCP says electrumG is recommended by many others and he hasn't heard anything negative about it but he never used it so he isn't going to say he endorses it.


So anyone else?


Also what about bitcoin SV?  What wallet do you suggest i use to claim it?  I just claimed my bitcoin cash not long ago from electron cash.  So that would mean my bitcoin cash was in electrum when the bitcoin sv fork happened.  So how do i get the bitcoin SV?
2323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BNB what will it cost? on: April 03, 2019, 11:34:13 PM
So buying binance coin is basically investing in the binance company and site itself right?  Similar to like apple so to speak?
2324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Leaving Behind Crypto When You Are Gone? on: April 03, 2019, 06:39:42 PM
If you got a bitcoin atm card, then all they have to do is go to the ATM and withdraw it but they still need to restore the nano ledger s themselves right?  Such as leave them your bitcoin atm debit card?  Issue are the limits are not that much assuming you have a good amount of crypto there right?


To those ppl that keep saying to teach the people you are leaving your crypto with... first off what if they don't know how to even use a computer?  In case most people are not aware, older people don't even know how to turn on the computer.  Then you have an issue where say they don't speak english and speak their native language.  What do you suggest there?  This isn't like teaching your brother who is say under 35 who could probably understand it if you teach them step by step.  Older folks that are 50 and up would probably not have a clue how this even if you teach them this.


So thoughts on that?
2325  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: How to test 24 words on: April 03, 2019, 06:34:56 PM
HCP, so before the ledger live came out, there was no way for someone to test if their 24 word phrase was 100% correct even though everyone should make sure they wrote their 24 word phrase correct?


Can anyone else confirm this? 



Also its 100% that installing that program and you entering the 24 word phrase would never be an issue right?  When you put in the 24 word phrase, you are doing so from the ledger s so if your computer is hacked or malware, that protects you still right since you are manualy typing the 24 word phrase on your nano ledger s?
2326  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 03, 2019, 02:50:18 AM
HCP as usual thanks for the detailed response.  Im going to have to think about this a bit for the bitcoin gold.


But for Bitcoin SV, are you waiting till a legit program like electroncash comes out before you do anything right?
2327  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 02, 2019, 05:52:23 AM
ElectrumG is for Bitcoin Gold... NOT Bitcoin SV. Bitcoin SV is a fork from Bitcoin Cash

bitcoingold.org is the official website of Bitcoin Gold... ElectrumG is linked from there. The only reason I said "use at your own risk" is that I am not vouching for that wallet. It looks "OK", and as far as I'm aware there have been no known thefts directly attributable to that wallet, but I am not going to guarantee that it is 100% safe.

I've no idea about Bitcoin SV... as far as I can tell, there isn't even a Windows client for the official Bitcoin SV release. There are supposedly some forks of the official client that support Windows, but I am not going to vouch for or link them.



Hi, yes i know ElectrumG is for bitcoin gold.  Okay since you don't vouch for it... i will most likely stay away from that.  But what did you use specifically to get your bitcoin gold a while back then?  Was it coinomi?  So basically you have heard others say bitcoingold.org gets you bitcoin gold from other users and you have not heard anything negative out of this right.  That seems to be pretty safe then i say but for me as you know, im always paranoid.  What is your best recommendation for me to claim my bitcoin gold?  Is it coinomi?


So you had your btc in the nano ledger s when the bitcoin SV fork happened right?  So are there even ppl that claimed their bitcoin sv yet?  I mean thats a very long time since the fork came out in November?  I mean i would have thought having it in ledger... that would be easier.  But those who kept it in exchanges like coinbase, binance and bittrex were basically given it then?  Thus it would been better to keep the bitcoin cash there those days instead?  Thus we had no idea how ppl would get the bitcoin SV from it if they had it in nano ledger?  What about those with bitcoin cash in electroncash?  Is it just the same tough process?
2328  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 01, 2019, 09:22:20 PM
Very little point claiming anything other than the BCH at this point... the rest aren't really worth anything unless you had "a lot" of BTC (10+) at the time of the forks Tongue

For reference, BTG is currently at $12... Bitcoin SV is $65...

Also, there is no reason for you to use a different device to claim each fork... ie. BCH using laptop and BTG using android phone... just do it all on the laptop.


Then what about the bitcoin sv?  How do i claim that?
For the record, Ledger don't support Bitcoin SV, you'll need to find a Bitcoin SV wallet to store them: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012270054-Safely-claim-Bitcoin-Cash-SV-BSV-

As far as I'm aware, there was a special version of Electron Cash created that enabled one to claim Bitcoin SV... instructions with pretty pictures here: https://github.com/markblundeberg/coinsplitter/blob/master/doc/coinsplitter_user_guide.md



HCP, did you use


https://bitcoingold.org/electrumg



To Claim Your Bitcoin SV?



And if so, where do you keep your bitcoin SV?  Because nano ledger s there doesn't seem to be a wallet.  So you keep it in that program you downloaded?  Or you sent it to an exchange like binance or bittrex since they have those wallets?  Of course keeping it in exchange is not good idea if you are holding.

2329  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 01, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Hey HCP thanks a lot!  Got the bch and then sent it to my ledger nano in a few increments just in case.  I been wanting to do this since i posted this thread.  


The bitcoingold wallet you posted


https://bitcoingold.org/electrumg




That is the confirmed site for bitcoin gold right?  I went through old posts of mine and check old threads and you posted about bitcoingold.org/electrum and you posted use it at your own risk but that thread was from a while back.  Because i recalled a while back you got your bitcoin gold through another program and not this one.


Coinomi on an android was what others suggested last year i believe or when it first came out to use it.




2330  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 01, 2019, 08:39:32 PM
HCP thanks.


Do i want to leave password for my wallet keys?  Im planning to first send a tiny amount of bitcoin cash first to my nano ledger s.  Then once that goes through, i will send the rest of it.


But is it better to put a password in my case or not?  Did you do it?  I assume you sent your bitcoin cash pretty quickly after getting it from electron cash right?  I just want to do exactly what you did.  Im on the page where it ask me if i want to put a password to encrypt the keys.  Obviously with electrum I did this.  You want me to put one for electroncash here?
2331  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 01, 2019, 08:34:17 PM
HCP thanks.  It ask me standard wallet, multi sig wallet or import bitcoin cash addresses or private keys.  I click on standard wallet correct?
2332  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Are there people attempting to brute force random keys? on: April 01, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
Curious about this.  Electrum only has 12 words.  Nano ledger has 24 and i believe you could add more to it.


So how many words are in the entire word list?  So are all those words used in electrum and nano ledger s?


If that is the case, couldn't someone look at the entire word list and just enter words like this and see if they get one?


Example... im using random words here as i don't know the entire word list



Phone Mouse Cat Dog Eat Fat Orange Pink Yellow Rat Growl Drink




Couldn't someone just spent a long time just randomly typing words like this and then pressing enter to see if anything shows up?  Then say they remove the last word of drink and put chips for example?  Thus like trial and error but do it manually?  There has to be ppl doing this right?


The other thing is aren't there computer software that does this try to crack the code itself by trial and error?  Because even if there are many combinations of words and how fast computers are, they wouldn't hit any one of them?  Like its not okay this doesn't work, take few seconds, heres another 12 or 24 word phrase?

2333  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 01, 2019, 08:06:25 PM
HCP sorry for posting this in a new post but the one above it looks too long.


I downloaded electroncash from me typing out on address bar


https://electroncash.org


Then i downloaded it on the windows installer.  When i try to open it, i get message from windows its unrecognized, do you want to run anyway.  I click yes right?  Did everyone here receive this message first before opening electroncash?
2334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Safety of your private key on: April 01, 2019, 06:29:48 PM
Where do most of you keep your 12 or 24 word phrase key then?  Do you break it up in multiple locations?  Or all in the same place but break it up?  Do you put it in 2 different locations in case?


2335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Should I Convert My All Coins into Bitcoin or USD? on: April 01, 2019, 06:27:28 PM
Does this feel safer or not if one is investing in crypto?  Because if you believe in bitcoin, surely having it in btc is safer than the other altcoins?
2336  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: April 01, 2019, 06:25:04 PM
Is this a reason why so many posts by posters seem very stupid?
2337  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Cash and Gold On New Computer and Nano Ledger S? on: April 01, 2019, 06:14:46 PM
Hey HCP.  Okay i uninstalled waves and then btc.  Then i installed btc, bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold wallet.  I did not do the firmware update to 1.5.5.


I then added bitcoin cash in the accounts and have it showing.  Then i click receive to show my bitcoin cash address and it starts with a 1.  Then i did this with bitcoin gold and then when i click receive bitcoin gold, it shows an address that begins with the letter A... that is correct?  



Okay so right now i have all the wallets added to my nano ledger s.



Im going to download electron cash on my same windows 10 computer and do as you mentioned.  And I will be sending tiny amount of bch from electron cash to test it out by sending tiny bit of bitcoin cash first to it to make sure i receive in ledger first.


Then i send the rest.


And last one before i confirm.


But just to make sure of this


How do you want me to type electron cash to visit website to make sure i get to the correct one.


Do i type in


https://electroncash.org



Because when i type in electron cash on google


first link that shows up has it spelled this way.


I want to make sure this is the correct electron cash as others say don't use google as it could lead you to a fake wallet.  


I took a look at the electroncash site and i should click on download latest version 4.0.0 right in the middle of the page correct?


2338  Other / Meta / Re: KYC now required on: April 01, 2019, 05:48:05 PM
when will this get removed?
2339  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another phishing site on: April 01, 2019, 05:44:11 PM
I also seen bitcointalk.to site.  So that is phishing site?  I saw that site when using my web browsing laptop.  So if you log in with that site your bitcointalk acct get compromised?
2340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Gambling altcoins - are they fundamentally undervalued? on: April 01, 2019, 02:30:29 AM
Is edgeless the best of all of them?
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