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2321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: August 19, 2017, 01:24:31 PM
I have contacted PJ to ask whether or not he'll be able to create the pathway for automatic deposits/withdrawals of the token, his answer was affirmitive.

If that's okay, I believe we should proceed with the Crypto Kingdom Markka tokenization?
2322  Economy / Gambling / Re: Experiment: 1% profit daily gambling over 90 days (91 days exactly) on: August 18, 2017, 10:34:00 PM
Ok, so I have 0.002 BTC to lose to show you why trading is better than gambling it did correctly. I'm not gambling addict, I just want show you why gambling is safer than HYIPs but worser than trading.
I will start 1 September 2017 (or 15 Sept if I won't had that capital by 1 Sept).
If by 1 December 2017 be successful, I will announce this and reinvest 0.003 BTC. I will save rest of winnings.

This will hardly prove anything, you can make a bad/good investment, it doesn't have anything to do with random chance while gambling does.
Also, you should be able to profit from HYIPs with enough experience and getting in early, while gambling hmm
I don't think there is anything to do to beat the house longterm, you can do it short term though.
2323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion on: August 18, 2017, 10:16:09 PM
Odds have changed significantly in Jons favor, against Cersei and Dany remains the same (compared to OP).

Quote
Daenerys Targaryen   4.00
Jon Snow   5.00
Cersei Lannister   5.00
Sansa Stark   9.00
Tyrion Lannister   9.00
The Night King   9.00
Euron Greyjoy   11.00
Petyr Baelish   13.00
Arya Stark   15.00
Bran Stark   17.00
Jaime Lannister   26.00
Samwell Tarly   34.00
Varys   41.00
Ellaria Sand   67.00
Jaqen H'ghar   67.00
Brienne Tarth   67.00
Melisandre   67.00
Yara Greyjoy   101.00
Theon Greyjoy   101.00
Gilly   251.00

2324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: August 18, 2017, 09:30:33 PM
Announcement:

The remaining balance of Saddam's M3 Depository has been transferred to Gringotts.

Current M3 exists: 174,828 (1748.28 XMR)

174,828 M3
- 2800 Rostibarn deposit to Gringotts
- 5050 Kevorkian deposit to Gringotts
- 1000 Gringotts deposit to Gringotts
- 1 Saddam deposit to Gringotts
- 50000 Luigi holds this balance independently *
-----
115,977 M3 / 1159.77 XMR

Money successfully sent, transaction: <61575cd8c276f9f6af2920a8f38c939f3f68c3f1f63e7115ffee6e761e5c5dda>

Gringotts XMR address: 44ebqRd92ry9p6Syh3dCYL54MsgTc3wijDFrPaLmNJf6QpKPHuWhE3g8cEyubForMH96TyHBG2fpZRb ErT3bzvPRTLwEfiL
Gringotts viewkey: 98fd62b9455e98892ca5527ffd852fe7c14cfb0d81702d9574a25a97c1319702


I acknowledge Gringotts has received 1159.77 XMR

Dead accounts that stay dead just decrease supply and increase the value of the remaining tokens, including those owned by the town. Conversely if they don't stay dead it was successful marketing to bring players (back) to the game.

Another thing that may happen if you threaten to sweep inactive accounts is that people may come back just to dump, when they don't want to actively play right now but would have held for wait-and-see purposes if they aren't going to be zeroed out.

Passive holders, cold storage, etc. gives crypto tokens a lot of their value.


I also believe seizing peoples assets when they haven't scammed is wrong and we shouldn't engage in such activity.
2325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: August 18, 2017, 12:53:18 PM
I meant taking 10% (400Billion) and adding it to the current supply making the new supply 4.4 Trillion, but I'm fine with Town raising those funds through in-game sales and taxation--wanted to jump start development, but what's the hurry now?

I'm fine with Town holding risto's funds as long it is understood that debts will be paid, and if there is any left over, it will go back to risto, NOT be used for development.

Now, what is the most KISS solution to the asset? Ownership asset or M asset? What are the steps for each?

I'm fine either way, I just want something that is fairly easy to implement and understand (from an investor standpoint).


It would probably be the ownership asset since we wouldn't have to design pathways for automatic withdrawal/deposits of the M asset (since it's the ingame currency)

The ownership asset could just be traded outside the game
However, we could make a depository with manual withdrawals/deposits for the ownership asset in order to allow M purchase of the asset

Basically, it would be simpler (for us) to make the ownership asset, I'm unsure what would be simpler for investors, seems the same to me
The only problem is exchanges are more sceptical to ownership assets versus currencies
2326  Economy / Gambling / Re: User vs User gambling on: August 18, 2017, 12:17:45 PM
Why not just use fairlay.com or betfair.com?
I don't see why anyone would go through the hassle of finding someone wanting to bet on the same things and different results and arranging the odds they would bet on when you just go to a betting exchange and bet in a matter of seconds

Because not everyone would be ready to share their ID proofs with website. Why not everyone make their own gambling site, maybe that question comes soon lol

Since when does fairlay require ID  Huh
You also have OneHash Wink
2327  Economy / Gambling / Re: OddEvenBets.com - House edge 1%, Provably fair on: August 18, 2017, 12:14:51 PM
I gotta say your Twitter account looks badass
This image fits it perfectly!

I think your next step to advance would be increasing the max. bet since it's only 0.002BTC
How to do this would ofcourse imply a bankroll, which would be hard to get considering the website is pretty new and there's very little trust built
I'd advise you to find an escrow to hold the bankroll and process higher withdrawals manually perhaps
I'd be able to do this for you if you decided for this option.

Why my twitter badass? Shocked

Why need increase bets now? (if 0.002btc placed rarely)
Escrow to hold the bankroll? I never hear about it.. this is very strange.

Well, it's just a suggestion Cheesy
If you want to earn more Tongue
A lot of people bet over 0.002BTC and you're losing these users.
Well, you can also go slowly and buil trust in order to start bankroll investments yourself Smiley
2328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: August 18, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
Town would get 10% over the 4 trillion, so 400 Billion  (should have stipulated this--and no, this would not affect the Bounty total). This is needed to create Bounties--like the one you'll receive--so necessary if you want to jump start development.  

Will people want to trade the ownership token? I'm happy either way and would be fine with it being an ownership token, just feel the question should be asked.

Also, Risto's shares would go to whom? I would be happy if Mooo as GM would hold them until the obligation is met or the funds could be used to pay back creditors.


You don't seem to understand my question.
If there is  4 trillion M and we will not issue more M, it is all currently owned by users ingame, how do we create the 10% with the supply remaining the same? It makes no sense  Cheesy

What does make sense, is that Town holdings remain town holdings and that Ristos holdings get transfered to Town in order to liquidate his debt and the issue of bounties etc. is resolved.

A CK ICO of Ristos holdings is also a viable option.
2329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion on: August 17, 2017, 11:10:41 PM
Ha ha ha, to be very honest, I really do not care who is going to take over the throne, whether it is Jon or Daenarys. My whole focus is on what will be the next episode the hackers will leak. I have heard season seven episode six is already out. My sympathies are with HBO.

Dude, we've been talking about that episode for the last 2 pages  Cheesy
2330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: August 17, 2017, 10:49:20 PM
20 Billion M Bounty

Step 1: Create specs for a CK money asset. This will include things like type of blockchain, emission (if any), how it will be distributed to players, etc....

Stipulations are that the name of the asset is CK, Town gets 10% for development purposes, the development plan is complete to the point where the Board only needs to do a yes/no vote, and that you've coordinated your efforts with PJ so there aren't any unforeseen technical issues.

Step 2: Create and distribute CK to players.

Step 3: Get CK listed on an exchange that averages more than a million dollars daily in transactions.

PLEASE NOTE: This will be changing M into CK, so your Bounty will be effected if you change the supply above or below the current 4 Trillion. For example if you doubled it to 8 Trillion, your Bounty would be 40 Billion; and if you halved the current supply to 2 Trillion, your Bounty would be 10 Billion.

Nice bounty!

Where is best to contact PJ?

PM me your email and I'll invite you to the slack Smiley

If the supply is the same as in Crypto Kingdom (4 trillion) how does Town get 10%?
Doesn't town get the same assets it has already ingame?

I would like to create an ERC23 token
For M with 4 trillion supply (3,999,999,999,706)
I'd have to contact PJ to see if it's possible to create a website simmilar to deposit.cryptokingdomgold.com
Since it is actually the ingame currency, it needs to be liquid and deposited/withdrawable automatically

Such a website wouldn't be necessary if we were creating a token for CKG instead of M
And that would be a lot easier and a lot quicker

What I believe we should do, is create an ownership token independent from M (a currency shouldn't represent ownership), which CKG previously was.
We should create a token according to M ownership and distribute it accordingly, however, M would remain the ingame currency and the new token would be traded on exchanges and held by players and it would represent ownership and voting rights when decisions are made.

Can I get your opinions to figure out how to proceed?

2331  Economy / Gambling / Re: User vs User gambling on: August 17, 2017, 10:33:19 PM
Why not just use fairlay.com or betfair.com?
I don't see why anyone would go through the hassle of finding someone wanting to bet on the same things and different results and arranging the odds they would bet on when you just go to a betting exchange and bet in a matter of seconds
2332  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 17, 2017, 09:11:26 PM
In above sites you mentioned bitdice is good invest for dice or casino games. Being out of gambling playform. I can say any type of gambling option would waste your money. If you enough fund you can at least donate to the poors. For entertainment you prefer betting to see profit some time.
lol why don't you ask the same question to all the rich kids in the world ? They waste tons of money on things they don't need.Speaking facts,if all the billionaires contributed .2% of their fortune for charity,we would eradicate global poverty by 50!
But why would they ? It's not their problem ? Its their hard earned money ? Same goes here,it's his money,you can't stop them from doing what they do with it as he didn't ask for poverty lol
Also,who said gambling always mean loses ? That's illogical. 

In the long run, gambling is negative EV, which means the longer you gamble you will likely lose money along the way. That is gambling, it is not the role
of gamblers to profit here. It is the casino's business to profit. Don't know why you guys have to bring in the poor, but I believe most poor people is by
choice. They can always work for food and whatever they need, but most of them are lazy. Complete limbs but they would prefer to beg for alms.

That's true in western countries, but not in 3rd world countries.
For example all of the poor I'v seen taking a stroll through London are smokers, however, I haven't seen a single person in London (aside from tourists and foreigners) who's a smoker!
How the hell do you afford a pack of cigarettes while you can't afford food??
For fucks sake.

In 3rd world countries, it's a completely different story, people are unable to get jobs at all because of the miserable economy and sometimes it's not by choice, they're just not capable enough to stick out in such a society where there are jobs only for some.
2333  Economy / Gambling / Re: Another dice site - Dice That Makes You Poor (not really) on: August 17, 2017, 07:15:33 PM
Very curious why the title of the dice site is "Dice that makes you poor."

I think this is just a scam site. Like what everybody said, he's just waiting for a big deposit and runaway.
He will likely not get apprehended if he does run away since it would be very hard to trace this guy as his
gambling site is not registered and because of anonymity of bitcoins and such.

He said the website is a port of 999dice so he'd be unable to run away with the coins
It might be a lie
I'm certain there are ways to check this though.
2334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion on: August 17, 2017, 07:10:36 PM
I won't give out any big spoilers but be warned if you haven't seen the leaked episode yet...

While it was certainly full of fan service moments and action it was one of the most poorly written and embarrassing of the series in my opinion. The teleportation issues are going full retard, it's getting so ridiculous I'm laughing out loud lately. This one in particular is the worst, similar distances were covered in almost a full season earlier and now they are 12-24 hours away and happen on a single episode lol!

The ending was definitely an iconic moment to be remembered, it was expected after the outcome of the battle but it was still pretty cool.



It was a pretty epic episode though
I haven't read the books (I started reading the first one, but got only to page 200 or so) so I'm not really aware of how far away stuff is
Other than the logic you're mentioning, the episode was awesome from my view
The fightining, the end, Dany and Jon, pretty badass I'd say.

Just fooking Ben the Knee
Dissapointed  Embarrassed
2335  Economy / Gambling / Re: OddEvenBets.com - House edge 1%, Provably fair on: August 17, 2017, 05:27:24 PM
I gotta say your Twitter account looks badass
This image fits it perfectly!

I think your next step to advance would be increasing the max. bet since it's only 0.002BTC
How to do this would ofcourse imply a bankroll, which would be hard to get considering the website is pretty new and there's very little trust built
I'd advise you to find an escrow to hold the bankroll and process higher withdrawals manually perhaps
I'd be able to do this for you if you decided for this option.


I have never heard a gambling site use an escrow to hold the bankroll and I dont think it is a good way for a gambling site to do that. Most possible scenario for a new site to make sure that they are able to pay is by signing a message from the cold wallet.
Have you done it before? Holding a bankroll for a gambling site?

Signing a messege from a cold wallet proves you have the funds, not that users are actually going to get the funds.
A trusted escrow goes around this and users are secure knowing they will receive their money.
I believe it would be very hard for investors to trust their money to a new unproven website, they should try, but I believe it won't be a success.
2336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Denarius [DNR] - NEW "Tribus" PoW Algo >> PoW/PoS Hybrid >> Satoshi Core on: August 17, 2017, 05:17:59 PM
Payments for the signature campaign have been sent!

If anyone wants to join in, he's welcome to do so!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1991286.msg19828372

2337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ⒹⒹⒹ DENARIUS SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN ⒹⒹⒹ on: August 17, 2017, 05:15:39 PM
Today my account was hacked. Above is my account. Good bye, see you guys few months later Sad

Can you sign an address you posted with the account previously?
You need to contact theymos with a signed messege and recover access
Anyways, since the signature was removed but the avatar remained, I have still sent 1 DNR to your address Smiley
I was not aware your bitcointalk account was hacked and I hope you still have access to your wallet!

Payments have been sent!

You can check Round 7 in the OP for more details.

Welcoming more members Smiley
2338  Economy / Gambling / Re: [Overview of all bitcoin casinos] Latest update: 17-08-17 on: August 17, 2017, 04:51:45 PM
Doesn't PrimeDice have a 0.5% edge, not a 1% one?
2339  Economy / Gambling / Re: OddEvenBets.com - House edge 1%, Provably fair on: August 17, 2017, 03:16:26 PM
I gotta say your Twitter account looks badass
This image fits it perfectly!

I think your next step to advance would be increasing the max. bet since it's only 0.002BTC
How to do this would ofcourse imply a bankroll, which would be hard to get considering the website is pretty new and there's very little trust built
I'd advise you to find an escrow to hold the bankroll and process higher withdrawals manually perhaps
I'd be able to do this for you if you decided for this option.
2340  Economy / Gambling / Re: ฿฿฿ Bitcoin Sportsbook with High odds, I recommended! ฿฿฿ on: August 17, 2017, 03:12:42 PM
Do you know any bookmakers which allow you to deposit Bitcoins but keep USD or EUR balance?

You'd probably need to find someone who doesn't accept bitcoin but accepts Neteller and your bitcoin balance will be converted to USD automatically
Bet365, Betfair and William Hill are the most popular

Check this for more
http://www.top100bookmakers.com/deposit-options/neteller.php
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