I know science works, we are certainly never going to mars thanks to prayer so go back to your cave.
Your basic science that you use is political science. Your post doesn't have anything to do with the fact that you don't know the future. The way you posted is political science in form. Since you don't know that we might go to Mars because of prayer, yet state the opposite, you show that you don't really know anything. Luke 16:8,9: “The master commended the dishonest manager because he had acted shrewdly. For the people of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own kind than are the people of the light. I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings. So you see. Unbelievers are very shrewd. But like the dishonest manager that these verses are in references to, they will ultimately be kicked out. However, you probably won't understand this.  Since prayer has never given someone a limb back, for example, I know for a fact prayer does not work, plenty of studies have been made, prayer is useless. Many people pray for all kinds of medical help. All medical that works is a gift of God despite the medical system that is greedy for money. Prayer without faith is not prayer, even though it might seem to be. The studies are not taking faith into account. God doesn't simply answer prayers for a show. He does it for people who are in need. Luke 20:1-8: 1One day as Jesus was teaching the people in the temple courts and proclaiming the good news, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, together with the elders, came up to him. 2“Tell us by what authority you are doing these things,” they said. “Who gave you this authority?”
3He replied, “I will also ask you a question. Tell me: 4John’s baptism—was it from heaven, or of human origin?”
5They discussed it among themselves and said, “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will ask, ‘Why didn’t you believe him?’ 6But if we say, ‘Of human origin,’ all the people will stone us, because they are persuaded that John was a prophet.”
7So they answered, “We don’t know where it was from.”
8Jesus said, “Neither will I tell you by what authority I am doing these things.” God doesn't simply answer prayers for a show. He does it for people who are in need. Certainly someone who loses both arms and legs is someone in need and plenty of people that actually believe in god have been praying for them and yet it never happened. I guess god doesn't want to show us his existence that way, it would be too easy and it would make us atheists believe in him, he obviously doesn't want that |
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'Why would I need medicine?' So you think if you get an infection a life threatening infection and you don't treat you are going to be saved by god? You think believers have never died from diseases before? What the hell is your point here?
Your religion of science has no alternative to death. Bible religion delivers from death in two ways: 1. Deliverance from the immediate death, Luke 23:43: Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." 2. Deliverance from eternal death in the destruction of the universe, Revelation 21:1: Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. Earthly death is simply a translation from one living form to another, but only for believers. Unbelievers will be held in chains of darkness... 2 Peter 2:4-10: 4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. ... and ... Jude 1:6: And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. Change your ways, now, so that you can have life. Yeah that would be cool if god was real, you are unable to prove his existence in the other thread, coming here and quoting the bible is not going to do it. |
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The only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere. The Earth always looks like a circle from space. Ergo, the Earth is a sphere.
What scientific evidence do you have for outer space? A telescope |
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I know science works, we are certainly never going to mars thanks to prayer so go back to your cave.
Your basic science that you use is political science. Your post doesn't have anything to do with the fact that you don't know the future. The way you posted is political science in form. Since you don't know that we might go to Mars because of prayer, yet state the opposite, you show that you don't really know anything. Luke 16:8,9: “The master commended the dishonest manager because he had acted shrewdly. For the people of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own kind than are the people of the light. I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings. So you see. Unbelievers are very shrewd. But like the dishonest manager that these verses are in references to, they will ultimately be kicked out. However, you probably won't understand this. Since prayer has never given someone a limb back, for example, I know for a fact prayer does not work, plenty of studies have been made, prayer is useless. |
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No. People do not live far longer now than ever before. Groups like the Hunzas prove this. It doesn't have anything to do with cures for diseases. It has to do with good hygiene and good nutrition. Medical disease cures are only activations of systems that are already in place. If we had better nutrition, etc., standard medical medication would be beat out 100% of the time. When you suggest not going to a doctor or using drugs, you seem to be talking about the modern medical system. If that is the case, you are talking politics. For example. Medical politics is trying to get people with cancer to go through chemo, radiation and surgery. But statistics show more people died from these than from the cancer. So why do people keep on going to their deaths with the medical's killers? Politics is keeping stats like this from people, so they don't realize that the medical is a killer. In addition, politics is making it very difficult for smarter people who understand the stats, to go the nutritional route for cures that work almost all the time. You are arguing that all medicine is wrong so if you are so sure don't take any of it and don't go to a doctor ever again, see how that works out, stop being a hypocrite and do it, don't be a pussy, go pray to god see if he will cure you. But you won't because you are afraid and not stupid enough not to take medicine when you need it, hypocrite. But your point doesn't have anything to do with medical ideas. Your point is to defame people. Just happens to be me this time. Why do you think that I have been kept safe for these many years? The Holy Spirit prays with me in my prayers and keeps me safe. Why would I need medicine? 'Why would I need medicine?' So you think if you get an infection a life threatening infection and you don't treat you are going to be saved by god? You think believers have never died from diseases before? What the hell is your point here? |
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1. Do you really think an obvious CGI animation such as presented in the first link counts as scientific observation? 2. Your second link has a Hollywood actor describing an experiment that a assumes that the Sun is millions of miles away. Science is not about making claims based on assumptions. 3. Your third link is a wiki article that doesn't even meet their basic standards: "This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations." The article then goes on to make assumptions like "outer space" that has no scientific evidence for its existence, gravity that's an unproven theory and the motion of the Earth that's proven not to exist beyond a reasonable doubt (M&M, Sagnac, Airy & D&P). This isn't science it's bullshit of the highest order. In regards to any measurements I have to trust the GPS system that's run by the Department of Defense and these liars claims of satellites in orbit are bullshit; GPS uses triangulation from ground based cell towers. Before GPS the data came from NASA (DoD propaganda) and the Apollo program and it's all classified and requires trusting some "scientist" with a Jewish last name who has access. Science isn't about trusting data and measurements from authority figures like the DoD a Jews who are proven liars that lie about absolutely everything. Science uses actual measurements that can be replicated. 1. Claiming something without proof doesn't make it true 2. If you watched the video he clearly explains how with 2 holes both explanations can work, a close small sun and a far away big sun, however with 3 holes, only a far away sun can explain the shadows, a close small sun wouldn't. Did you watch the video? Rip in pepperonis your ''theory'' Disproved with 3 holes and some math, R.I.P. bro. 1. You're claiming something is a scientific observation when it's not. You need to understand the difference between observation under strictly controlled conditions and watching cartoons on TV. You can argue all day that the cartoons are real and that I can't prove they're CGI but that's not science. 2. The video doesn't explain why a close Sun is not possible, Tyson just makes that claim without backing it up. Again animation is used to try and prove his point but it doesn't explain anything and certainly isn't scientific. There's no numbers, there's no models presented, there's no practical experiments involved, there's nothing but a greasy Hollywood actor making unsubstantiated claims. 1. Again, the millions of pictures and videos/livestreams serve as very solid proof of the round earth and you just claim out of your ass it's all fake. 2. Yes it does. It explains how it's possible with 2 but not 3. ''No flat earth model can explain the angles of the 3 shadows |
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My god protects me from diseases, I don't have to be vaccinated. Go ahead and never take any medicine ever again, badecker, see how long you last alive.
Oh, the horror of not having medicine available. Surely we will all die prematurely without a steady supply of medicine. And, or course, the societal infrastructure necessary to ensure that supply. (Again, the 'Are we Brainwashed?' thread.) ... And I have been smoking for 30 years and I don't have cancer therefore smoking doesn't cause cancer. What are you even talking about? You think someone sick with pulmonary infection or heart disease or AIDS or anything would survive without medicine? Are you dumb? Actually, smoking doesn't 'cause cancer'. What it does is to contributed statistically to a smoker's chances of getting cancer. Smoking also contributes to other ailments. I smoked for 10 years. When I quit, it changed my health characteristics in noticeable and good ways. (I simply started chewing tobacco exclusively when I went to work in an office as an engineer.) My complaint about your post is that you seemed to be confident that badecker would die quickly if he stopped taking government authorized drugs from big pharma. Since I doubt that you know the guy personally, it seems that you are one of many who consider all humans need to rely on alopathic medicine for survival. My belief is that humans have the basic design to last around 80 years. Some people wear out and fail in their 50's. Some people go relatively strongly into their 100's. We are seeing the classic bell curve that shows up in nature all over the place. Historically we had more risks and life-ways threats. More people died from accidents, war, and diseases for that reason, but still there were old-timers who go just about as long as people do today. I hypothesize that human life-span characteristics evolved so that a segment of people made it well past their breeding years because their 'wisdom' helped a society be more competitive...and this advantage out-weighed the expense of feeding them. Of course I believe that using the available tools to deal with a medical problem is fine and makes sense. If it is modern technology pumped out by are technically advanced society, I'm fine with that and will do it myself if/when it is needed (but will evaluate all of my options, including archaic ones, first.) My point is that it used to be the exception to require such services rather than the rule. ''My belief'' Your belief is meaningless. I don't know whether badecker will die faster if he stops taking medicine and going to see a doctor because he might never get sick, it's genetics, some people are like that. However if we are talking about the general population and you take 10 million and split them in half, one half goes to a doctor regularly and uses prescribed drugs when needed and the other half doesn't, the half that doesn't will have a shorter lifespan in the long term. |
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It's funny that people (badecker) who believe in 1 crazy shit (god) also usually believe in other crazy shit. Notbatman believes the earth is flat but that's not his only conspiracy theory, he also believes that giants lived here and other crazy shit.
Since you want to set yourself up as god by claiming (without proof) that God doesn't exist, the question is whether you were vaccinated with thymus materials designed to make you anti-yourself (anti-god). My god protects me from diseases, I don't have to be vaccinated. Go ahead and never take any medicine ever again, badecker, see how long you last alive. LOL! You haven't been looking and Natural News ( https://naturalnews.com/), and thousands of other sites like her, have you. We are finding out by testing, that medicines are one of the big reasons why we are unhealthy... if we aren't smart enough to avoid them. Medicine good for Astargath. Astargath take much more medicine. Astargath live long life this way. LOL!  Yet people live far longer now than before, we have way less premature deaths, we can cure diseases. Again, if you are so sure, don't go to a doctor ever again, don't take any drugs either, see how that works out for you. No. People do not live far longer now than ever before. Groups like the Hunzas prove this. It doesn't have anything to do with cures for diseases. It has to do with good hygiene and good nutrition. Medical disease cures are only activations of systems that are already in place. If we had better nutrition, etc., standard medical medication would be beat out 100% of the time. When you suggest not going to a doctor or using drugs, you seem to be talking about the modern medical system. If that is the case, you are talking politics. For example. Medical politics is trying to get people with cancer to go through chemo, radiation and surgery. But statistics show more people died from these than from the cancer. So why do people keep on going to their deaths with the medical's killers? Politics is keeping stats like this from people, so they don't realize that the medical is a killer. In addition, politics is making it very difficult for smarter people who understand the stats, to go the nutritional route for cures that work almost all the time. You are arguing that all medicine is wrong so if you are so sure don't take any of it and don't go to a doctor ever again, see how that works out, stop being a hypocrite and do it, don't be a pussy, go pray to god see if he will cure you. But you won't because you are afraid and not stupid enough not to take medicine when you need it, hypocrite. |
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Many events happened, like, 5 years ago. What does any of that have to do with you being able to predict the future? If it happens as you say, it wasn't because any of your predictions were know to be factual ahead of time. All it means is that your guess was the guess that happened... right along with the guess of thousands of others who guessed the same way. It's not a prediction, the first man made mission is set to be around 2024, considering that it might have some delay or problems, the 10-20 years estimation is more than generous, 2024 is 6 years from now. There are multitudes of unforeseen things that might stop it easily. Consider Bitcoin. In less that 10 years of Bitcoin beta, Bitcoin has made a dent in the more-than-100-y-o financial system. In addition, the petrodollar is collapsing because other countries are moving away from it to things like crypto or gold. Will the USD be able to stand so that it can support Mars plans? We don't know the future. I know science works, we are certainly never going to mars thanks to prayer so go back to your cave. |
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You said, if we observe nature and I gave you examples, now you are talking about computers and man made stuff. Yes, we know things are made by humans, how do you know a nuclear power plant is made by humans, tho?
''Machines, even the machines of nature that we use to make our machines, have makers. We see nothing else. Machines have makers.'' What do you mean we see nothing else? We know humans are capable of creating stuff but a plant, tree or a rock are not man made and there is nothing that indicates they were made by a ''maker''.
''But there is tremendous intelligence in the way it all works.'' There is some and there is some that's not very intelligent, look at humans, they have so many flaws, look at the earth, so many things can kill you.
''and nothing that we know of that shows the opposite (like a car appearing out in the desert out of thin air)'' We can see mountains forming without an intelligent being, rocks, plants, trees, etc etc, plenty of things form without any intervention.
So we agree that if we know that certain machines are man-made, then we know that they are man-made. We can only guess that a nuclear power plant is made by humans. I mean, just because they look and act like humans doesn't mean that they are humans. We see nothing other than machines having makers. The question is who the makers are. Yet with all the flaws in humans, the population is continuing to grow tremendously. In other words, the flaws have been overcome to a great extent. The idea of intelligence with flaws is a complex one. How do you know that "We can see mountains forming without an intelligent being, rocks, plants, trees, etc etc, plenty of things form without any intervention?" The subatomics in all material acts in machine ways. Machines have makers. If there doesn't happen to be any intervention or observation of the maker, but rather, the machines act automatically according to preset cause and effect, this only shows that the intelligence behind them is extremely great, making our description of God extremely inadequate. The point is, we have no example where we can show even one machine that we know for a fact has no maker. The closest that we might be able to come, is to suggest that we don't know if a machine has a maker or not. But we can show millions of machines in which we can identify the maker. The longer history goes on, the more machines we will be able to show that for a fact have makers. But we still won't be able to show any machines that we know for a fact don't have a maker. I would suggest that we have passed the point long ago that the simple odds of the many machines that we know have makers, against the fact that we don't even know of one machine that doesn't have a maker, shows that all machines have makers. While the machine/maker odds haven't approached the C&E odds, we still have tremendous machine/maker odds. So, show us a machine of nature that we know for a fact doesn't have a maker. ''We see nothing other than machines having makers. The question is who the makers are.'' No, again, we don't. We only see humans making stuff. ''The point is, we have no example where we can show even one machine that we know for a fact has no maker'' And you can't show one that's made by something other than animals. Your argument goes like this: Humans make stuff therefore all the other stuff that's not made by humans must have a maker too but there is no relation there, it's just an assumption, nothing indicates that the other stuff requires a maker ''So, show us a machine of nature that we know for a fact doesn't have a maker.'' Show us one that you know for a fact is not made by animals. The question is: How do you determine whether something is designed or not |
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1. Do you really think an obvious CGI animation such as presented in the first link counts as scientific observation? 2. Your second link has a Hollywood actor describing an experiment that a assumes that the Sun is millions of miles away. Science is not about making claims based on assumptions. 3. Your third link is a wiki article that doesn't even meet their basic standards: "This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations." The article then goes on to make assumptions like "outer space" that has no scientific evidence for its existance, gravity that's an unproven theory and the motion of the Earth that's proven not to exist beyond a reasonable doubt (M&M, Sagnac, Airy & D&P). This isn't science it's bullshit of the highest order. In regards to any measurements I have to trust the GPS system that's run by the Department of Defence and these liars claims of satellites in orbit are bullshit; GPS uses triangulation from ground based cell towers. Before GPS the data came from NASA (DoD propaganda) and the Apollo program and it's all classified and requires trusting some "scientist" with a Jewish last name who has access. Science isn't about trusting data and measuments from authority figures like the DoD a Jews who are proven liars that lie about absolutly everything. Science uses actual measurements that can be replicated. 1. Claiming something without proof doesn't make it true 2. If you watched the video he clearly explains how with 2 holes both explanations can work, a close small sun and a far away big sun, however with 3 holes, only a far away sun can explain the shadows, a close small sun wouldn't. Did you watch the video? Rip in pepperonis your ''theory'' Disproved with 3 holes and some math, R.I.P. bro. |
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It's funny that people (badecker) who believe in 1 crazy shit (god) also usually believe in other crazy shit. Notbatman believes the earth is flat but that's not his only conspiracy theory, he also believes that giants lived here and other crazy shit.
Since you want to set yourself up as god by claiming (without proof) that God doesn't exist, the question is whether you were vaccinated with thymus materials designed to make you anti-yourself (anti-god). My god protects me from diseases, I don't have to be vaccinated. Go ahead and never take any medicine ever again, badecker, see how long you last alive. LOL! You haven't been looking and Natural News ( https://naturalnews.com/), and thousands of other sites like her, have you. We are finding out by testing, that medicines are one of the big reasons why we are unhealthy... if we aren't smart enough to avoid them. Medicine good for Astargath. Astargath take much more medicine. Astargath live long life this way. LOL! Yet people live far longer now than before, we have way less premature deaths, we can cure diseases. Again, if you are so sure, don't go to a doctor ever again, don't take any drugs either, see how that works out for you. |
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My god protects me from diseases, I don't have to be vaccinated. Go ahead and never take any medicine ever again, badecker, see how long you last alive.
Oh, the horror of not having medicine available. Surely we will all die prematurely without a steady supply of medicine. And, or course, the societal infrastructure necessary to ensure that supply. (Again, the 'Are we Brainwashed?' thread.) I'm over 50 and have never had to use any sort of medicine to be alive. One time I had a sinus infection which benefited greatly by amoxicillin. I may have died from it without the medicine, but probably would not have. And I got it in boot camp where I was packed together with people from all over the country and under some degree of stress. Currently I sometimes use an antibiotic for specific and trivial reasons. Mostly if I get bitten by a tick AND it makes me feel flu-like symptoms which has happened several times over the last 5 years. Other than that no medicine at all and I've not been to see a doctor for about 10 years (other than to have her write me a prescription for the antibiotics which she does with no questions asked because she agrees with my risk analysis logic.) I'm not saying that you young sprouts who have grown up under the heavy-vax eugenics programs don't need constant meds to keep you alive. Lots of you probably do. I'm just saying that it doesn't have to be this way and if it is a problem it is a fairly recent one...and not a problem at all for the class of people who hold corporate board seats at Merck, Pfizer, Bayer, GSK, etc, These people are the real 'modern Gods' so-to-speak. You are to worship them and regurgitate their programming at every opportunity. And I have been smoking for 30 years and I don't have cancer therefore smoking doesn't cause cancer. What are you even talking about? You think someone sick with pulmonary infection or heart disease or AIDS or anything would survive without medicine? Are you dumb? |
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Personally I will be going to Mars where hopefully we have no religion.
You'll be dead long before you get there... and more than likely even off the ground. We will get there in 10-20 years, not thanks to god, thanks to science because as you can see science works, religion doesn't. Thousands or millions of people were delayed on their way to the corner store. And you think you know we will make it to Mars? LOL! However, if that is your religion, and if it improves your health somehow, more power to you. Curiosity landed on mars like 5 years ago dude, welcome to the future, yes I know it's not a human but 7 landings of unmanned spacecrafts have been successful. It's not me saying it. ''SpaceX' aspirational goal is to land the first humans on Mars by 2024'' Obviously we can't be sure but it's really not that hard to think it will happen in 10-20 years at most. Many events happened, like, 5 years ago. What does any of that have to do with you being able to predict the future? If it happens as you say, it wasn't because any of your predictions were know to be factual ahead of time. All it means is that your guess was the guess that happened... right along with the guess of thousands of others who guessed the same way. It's not a prediction, the first man made mission is set to be around 2024, considering that it might have some delay or problems, the 10-20 years estimation is more than generous, 2024 is 6 years from now. |
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The evidence is the examples in nature, especially those of human beings. If there was any great amount of evidence opposing these examples, there might be cause to think that complexity could arise on its own. But there isn't. In other words, when we examine and correlate the intelligence behind the great numbers machines of intelligent man, plus the few simple machines of a few slightly intelligent animals, we see that intelligence makes machines, right? And the greater the intelligence, the greater the machines, right? Which of the structures of any of the natural things on earth is not made up of machines? None of it. Even the complexities of subatomic particles reacting with each other is leverages upon leverages reacting with other leverages, both in material ways and in energy ways. This is what machines are! All, 100% of nature, is machines upon machines combined in a gigantic machine universe. And all, 100%, of our machines uses the examples of machinery found in nature, and the machines of nature themselves, one way or another in their design and operation. Machines have makers. So, why would anyone think that the great machinery of nature, which has tremendously intelligent design to it, not have an Intelligent Designer behind it? We have no example of any intelligently designed "thing" that doesn't have an intelligent designer behind it. The closest we can come is to say that we don't know who the designer is. ''we see that intelligence makes machines, right? And the greater the intelligence, the greater the machines, right?'' No we don't. If we examine nature we can see, plants for example, they grow and become complex but we don't see any intelligent being making them, same thing with a lot of natural occurrences like a mountain forming or a thunder. Okay. You have figured out that cars and computers and nuclear power plants and ships and all the rest of the machines of mankind have come into being without intelligence, right? LOL! And mankind didn't use the machines of nature that are greater than theirs to figure all their stuff out, right? LOL! And mankind hasn't made all their machines out of the machines of natural subatomic particles in the least, right? Nobody living saw the makers of many of the ancient machines of ancient countries like Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Consider the Antikythera mechanism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism. Nobody knows who could have designed such a mechanism, to say nothing about knowing who did it. Are you trying to tell us that it simply grew under water on a sunken galleon? Yet it is made out of the machines of nature in the materials it is made out of. The bronze and wood out of which the mechanism is made are parts of the natural machinery. Our examples of machinery that we know about show intelligence behind them. Machines, even the machines of nature that we use to make our machines, have makers. We see nothing else. Machines have makers. Would a trillion man-made machines be enough? Would a trillion trillion? There is a point where the odds in a direction overcome the possibility of something in the opposite direction. We don't know by direct observation where the machines of nature come from. But there is tremendous intelligence in the way it all works. Since we see multitudes of man-made, and even animal made machines that show intelligence, and nothing that we know of that shows the opposite (like a car appearing out in the desert out of thin air), there is an Intelligent Designer behind the design of the whole universe. No other way. You said, if we observe nature and I gave you examples, now you are talking about computers and man made stuff. Yes, we know things are made by humans, how do you know a nuclear power plant is made by humans, tho? ''Machines, even the machines of nature that we use to make our machines, have makers. We see nothing else. Machines have makers.'' What do you mean we see nothing else? We know humans are capable of creating stuff but a plant, tree or a rock are not man made and there is nothing that indicates they were made by a ''maker''. ''But there is tremendous intelligence in the way it all works.'' There is some and there is some that's not very intelligent, look at humans, they have so many flaws, look at the earth, so many things can kill you. ''and nothing that we know of that shows the opposite (like a car appearing out in the desert out of thin air)'' We can see mountains forming without an intelligent being, rocks, plants, trees, etc etc, plenty of things form without any intervention. |
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Well technically The Holy Bible doesn't say when, so we don't know if it will be today, tomorrow, or in 100 years from now.
Or never is more likely. The Holy Bible says that Earth is flat, was created 6000 years ago, and all fauna and flora was destroyed 4000 years are in a global flood. If I were you, I would not worry about what the Holy Bible doesn't say, I would worry about what it does say. No religious believer has ever been able to tell me why an infinite being has to ''wait'' to comeback and ''save us'' if he can do it any time he pleases and he already knows the future. It is because God doesn't force anything on you, He allows you to take the decision by yourself before He can come in. That was why He said in the Book of Revelations 3 vs 20: Behold I stand at the door and knock, if any man will open, I will come in... He needs you to open willingly for Him to enter. That's a neat idea but when I'm dead he will still be waiting for the next generation and so on to infinity, there is no end to this. |
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Personally I will be going to Mars where hopefully we have no religion.
You'll be dead long before you get there... and more than likely even off the ground. We will get there in 10-20 years, not thanks to god, thanks to science because as you can see science works, religion doesn't. Thousands or millions of people were delayed on their way to the corner store. And you think you know we will make it to Mars? LOL! However, if that is your religion, and if it improves your health somehow, more power to you. Curiosity landed on mars like 5 years ago dude, welcome to the future, yes I know it's not a human but 7 landings of unmanned spacecrafts have been successful. It's not me saying it. ''SpaceX' aspirational goal is to land the first humans on Mars by 2024'' Obviously we can't be sure but it's really not that hard to think it will happen in 10-20 years at most. |
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You are still farming merits? Jeez, some people are really bored.
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