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23381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 07:28:46 PM
Barry shilbert and Peter toad...thanks for damaging crypto and BTC.

Hey Pumpy....


You mean that you are not here pumping that not to be named coin?  In comparison, bitcoin is in very decent shape,and really on track to keep prospering with security.    No need to playing around with various attempts at irrelevant and distracting personal attacks.
yoyo jj, not even a hello  Sad...hope all is well m8  Kiss


I said hello to you a few weeks ago, but my post got deleted... I think that my post was too much related to that unspoken thingie magigie.. if you could just stay "on topic," that would help me a lot..

Thanks uuu  a zillion, m8ie.  Wink
lol anything for u jj ,  isnt this on topic? 

anyways i see btc heading towards $500 now, ive been expecting it for a while, all that was required was a lil push.


You mean upper $500s, like breaking below $600 or do you literally mean getting close to $500?

You could be correct if you just suggest that we could break into the upper $500s, but getting to the lower $500s seems like there would be quite a bit of a struggle for that, no? 

Accordingly, there seems to be quite a bit of buying support in these supra $600 price levels, no?
upper $500 will be tested and im very sure lower $500 like around $520s is very possible, i dont see a big struggle to $560 at all.
I hate to say this but crypto is looking like a big joke just now to outsiders.


1) Upper $500s is looking more possible, after today's additional dip. 

2) I agree breaking through the upper $500s could likely bring prices lower, but I do believe that there would be resistance in the $540 to $560 price range 

3) That unnamed coin may be looking like a bit of a joke, and there may be some implications on bitcoin (guilt by association), but really I would consider this to be a kind of normal correction that is not really any kind of deep damnation of bitcoin 

4) Personally, I think that bitcoin is still in bullish trend so long as prices do not go below $420-ish, and I believe it would take quite a bit of negative and momentum and maybe just pure downward manipulation attempts (possibly at a loss) to bring prices even close to those levels, and like I said, I expect considerable resistance in the mid-$500s - and even with that, BTC prices do need to break through the resistance in the lower $600s, too, which is really nothing to sneeze at... am I NOT KORect?   Wink    Cheesy    Grin   Shocked

Did you sneeze yet m8,lol , this is only the begining, crypto looking like a joke as i said before. Creating coins out of thin and doubling a billion $ supply and then exchanges allow this asset to be sold will ob have an effect on BTC.
I see $500 incoming as the struggle to $560 is almost over.

Hope you didnt lose anything at finex and if you wana be safe, go cold or use an exchange that doesnt sell etc...( theres a loop that is being used to drain btc btw )


I've taken some precautionary measures, and like anyone, I am not sure about whether I lost anything yet.  I did have some coins there, and I did send some coins there (that had not shown up as arriving) right before the site was shut down.  Still too early to panic, but surely any kinds of significant negative news does provide ammunition for further price downfalls, but also the price could reverse at any moment in the event that the news ends up being less bearish than originally anticipated... but yeah, this kind of news does increase the probabilities of lower lows in the short term (and possibly even in the longer term if the news gets worse and based on momentum).  Nonetheless, it is way too early to remove us from our current bull-market and overall uptrend.. even though in retrospect we may determine that the bull market had reversed (too early to call those things).
23382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 07:22:54 PM
but no, we did no lose all or nearly all of the bitcoin.

So ...half?

looking at how they are reacting i bet it is a substantial amount.

I think that it is a fair inference that the amount is substantial... and based on their volume and amount of account holders, minimum loss is likely between half a million and a couple million, and the amount could be much larger... but we cannot really know until hearing a bit more about some specifics
23383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 07:19:29 PM

Within about an hour or so before the shut down, I had just sent some BTC there too, and it did not show up in my bitfinex account balance, either.

Just one of the costs of doing business, gotta figure that in. You don't have your bitcoins unless you hold the private key.

"The life of a Bitcoin trader is always intense."

*that stuff people were saying about not panicking unless we go below 590? I hope they meant 490...

1) Even though you seem to be an idiot troll
Choke on a bag of dicks. I hope you lose more money. Did I say hope? I meant your money's as good as gone. Better start charging for eating dicks.
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2) Yes, cost of doing business in bitcoin, and probably many other ventures that are in their development stages.
Version 0.12.1. Been seven years.
If Bitcoin was a kid in some shithole country, it would be earning its keep by now.
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3) You are exaggerating a bit when you are suggesting that people were saying $590 is the panic point
No. In this very thread. Look for it.


Yeah, right... as expected, you got nothing to add to any kind of substantive discussion except providing further nonsense and further deviation from what were initially quasi-decent talking points.
23384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 07:15:36 PM
Security breach on Bitfinex

Today we discovered a security breach that requires us to halt all trading on Bitfinex, as well as halt all digital token deposits to and withdrawals from Bitfinex.

We are investigating the breach to determine what happened, but we know that some of our users have had their bitcoins stolen. We are undertaking a review to determine which users have been affected by the breach. While we conduct this initial investigation and secure our environment, bitfinex.com will be taken down and the maintenance page will be left up.

The theft is being reported to — and we are co-operating with — law enforcement.

As we account for individualized customer losses, we may need to settle open margin positions, associated financing, and/or collateral affected by the breach. Any settlements will be at the current market prices as of 18:00 UTC. We are taking this necessary accounting step to normalize account balances with the objective of resuming operations. We will look at various options to address customer losses later in the investigation. While we are halting all operations at this time, we can confirm that the breach was limited to bitcoin wallets; the other digital tokens traded on Bitfinex are unaffected.

We will post updates as and when appropriate on our status page, bitfinex.statuspage.io. We are deeply concerned about this issue and we are committing every resource to try to resolve it. We ask for the community’s patience as we unravel the causes and consequences of this breach.

bitfinex.statuspage.io, support@bitfinex.com

Got this by Support just before that went up.


"Thank you for your message.

We are experiencing an issue with our deposits. Our team is working on fixing it as we speak.

Apologies for the inconvenience. We will credit your funds as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

xxxx
Bitfinex Support Team
support@bitfinex.com
"
One transaction with 50 confirms did not show up so i opened up a support ticket, and that was the reply i got.

So i really hope they keep that promise.

Within about an hour or so before the shut down, I had just sent some BTC there too, and it did not show up in my bitfinex account balance, either.


Well the craziest thing is that i sent a reply to support reading this :

"Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 at 7:25 PM
From: "xxxxx" <xxxxxx@post.com>
To: "Bitfinex Support" <support@bitfinex.com>
Subject: Re: Where is my BTC Huh. [#593354]
Please dont Gox me xxxxx.. how long will this take ? any ETA ? "

And that fucker went ahead and goxxed me anyway.


I'm all with you until you assert that you have already been "goxxed."  It is way too early to be making those kinds of assertions.  We have no idea, yet, about the magnitude of this situation beyond the fact that they are admitting that they lost some customer coins, which gox never actually admitted upfront - they only admitted after the fact.

So, yeah, we cannot be sure exactly what is going on with Bitfinex, and we can probably be quite confident that they are not being completely transparent with us; however, these early stages of this particular Bitfinex situation has not come anywhere remotely near the level of Gox's shenanigans and lack of transparency and then ongoing manipulations.  Yes, it is possible that we are all going to get screwed from Bitfinex, but at this point, that probability seems pretty low, and you are spreading FUCD regarding some possibility that is seemingly quite low, at the moment, unless you have better evidence to support such assertions, which I doubt you know any more than the information from the status page and other various publicly well known information about Bitfinex.
23385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 07:07:21 PM

Within about an hour or so before the shut down, I had just sent some BTC there too, and it did not show up in my bitfinex account balance, either.

Just one of the costs of doing business, gotta figure that in. You don't have your bitcoins unless you hold the private key.

"The life of a Bitcoin trader is always intense."

*that stuff people were saying about not panicking unless we go below 590? I hope they meant 490...

1) Even though you seem to be an idiot troll, I will respond to a few of your points, which are still valid in spite of your apparent trolling attempts

2) Yes, cost of doing business in bitcoin, and probably many other ventures that are in their development stages, is that sometimes there are going to be some costs and even unexpected costs and even potentially some malicious behaviors.

3) You are exaggerating a bit when you are suggesting that people were saying $590 is the panic point, and normal correction is one thing, but if we get some fairly outrageous information (such as potential large scale losses on a major exchange), then we should expect the low point to go lower (and even build in additional acceptance that the price could go lower).  The news of Bitfinex's status will certainly drive BTC prices in the short term, and yes, such status reports could result in additional decreases in the price (beyond whatever normal original (pre-news) predictions that were being made).
23386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 06:51:14 PM
Security breach on Bitfinex

Today we discovered a security breach that requires us to halt all trading on Bitfinex, as well as halt all digital token deposits to and withdrawals from Bitfinex.

We are investigating the breach to determine what happened, but we know that some of our users have had their bitcoins stolen. We are undertaking a review to determine which users have been affected by the breach. While we conduct this initial investigation and secure our environment, bitfinex.com will be taken down and the maintenance page will be left up.

The theft is being reported to — and we are co-operating with — law enforcement.

As we account for individualized customer losses, we may need to settle open margin positions, associated financing, and/or collateral affected by the breach. Any settlements will be at the current market prices as of 18:00 UTC. We are taking this necessary accounting step to normalize account balances with the objective of resuming operations. We will look at various options to address customer losses later in the investigation. While we are halting all operations at this time, we can confirm that the breach was limited to bitcoin wallets; the other digital tokens traded on Bitfinex are unaffected.

We will post updates as and when appropriate on our status page, bitfinex.statuspage.io. We are deeply concerned about this issue and we are committing every resource to try to resolve it. We ask for the community’s patience as we unravel the causes and consequences of this breach.

bitfinex.statuspage.io, support@bitfinex.com

Got this by Support just before that went up.


"Thank you for your message.

We are experiencing an issue with our deposits. Our team is working on fixing it as we speak.

Apologies for the inconvenience. We will credit your funds as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

xxxx
Bitfinex Support Team
support@bitfinex.com
"
One transaction with 50 confirms did not show up so i opened up a support ticket, and that was the reply i got.

So i really hope they keep that promise.

Within about an hour or so before the shut down, I had just sent some BTC there too, and it did not show up in my bitfinex account balance, either.
23387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 04:41:36 PM
Where is the "anatomy of a bubble" graph?

This one?



 Grin

That looks like bitcoin, and the two bubbles in 2013, and we seem to be in the latest beartrap,no?

It could take a few months or even more than a year before we experience another exponential price growth period, no?
23388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 04:37:41 PM

have you ever been chased by a green badger riding a lamb shooting bolts of lighting?



If something like that happened to me, I am pretty sure that I would have remembered it.   Shocked



We've tested 595, and bounced back. 595 is surely the new floor

Don't be so sure. We tested $560 in June. Anything over $500 will still make this a great year.

That said, this could be the setup for the next serious run up. Whales gotta accumulate and there's nothing like plankton panic to feed them cheap coins.

Isn't this fun?

I don't know about fun, because even though I have money prepared for dips, I always get feelings of trepidation when there are big downward corrections (such as those that are more than 10%), because the value of my whole BTC investment goes down, and I never have any real confidence about how much further down the price is going to go.... and usually, i have already made several purchases on the way down, so I get into feelings about how to budget the remainder of my fiat funds that are in my BTC portfolio.

Currently, I am kind of thinking that a test of the mid $500s has a decent chance of occurring (maybe even around 50%).

Of course, the lower we go down in projections, the less likely that it will occur on this run, and I think that lower $500 is fairly unlikely (like maybe in the less than 35% arena)..

I'm thinking less than $500 would be less than 25% chance of occurring in this run.

that's my current thinking and scares me just to specify it..




23389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 03:25:56 AM
610 ISN'T going to hodl! it will break...

I saw what you did there Tongue

ambiguity is the key to making good prediction  Grin


Hence, ambiguity --- your choice of poll language.   Cheesy Cheesy


Speaking of poll language, my time piece seems to indicate the future is here, and 7/31 is forever.....




aaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddd  



it's



gone!!!!!

 Wink
23390  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ Betcoin.ag ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠ on: August 02, 2016, 03:18:43 AM
was payment for last month sent already ?
I also didn't got it yet maybe they will do it today.

Also can you tell me how to use that bonus we got by participating in stage 9 as i never played poker.

could be soon, but i recall that usually, it had been taking a few days from the end of one stage to process the payments for that stage.
23391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 03:11:57 AM
Does anybody see it going below $600 within the next 24 hours?
This is very sad very sad indeed  Embarrassed

I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

From where are you getting these figures, from out of your ass?

That is a pretty low amount, and didn't you already notice that $600 had been tested several times in the past month, and only successful once.. Sure it is possible to go down to $420, but that would almost be borderline territory in reversing the bull trend... but that is not what you are saying.  In the end, we gotta get by $500 first and even $550 and $600, so there are a few challenges before even getting to the $400s.

Pretty much...but a little before anything comes out the ass, gut instinct kicks in!  Probably more realistically high 400's. Within a range but I think it's a leg down before more up. Everyone's had a taste of the bull and wants more but patience is likely a virtue this summer.


Funny how guys feel better to quote themselves, even when they concede that they are just guessing in their predictions..

hahahahahaha   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Still a bit premature to be expecting that we are getting to $400s any time soon.  I'm not saying $400s is impossible, just that we gotta get through various resistance points first (and all that before prices reverse and resume their upwards trajectory).  I would think that mid $500s is a decent reversal point - but yeah, that's my sense at the moment, and not really based on too much of anything besides the appearance of overall ongoing upwards price pressures.

Since the price has dropped around $50 since the quote, I'd say we're headed in the right direction.  A this rate bitcoin will be -600.00USD in only 24 weeks!

Gosh... I don't mean to battle with you, but you seem to be getting worse and worse with every post.

Part of my point, is that it is like a stab in the dark to attempt to make precise BTC price predictions, and the more specific you are, the more likely is that you are merely throwing darts (yes, you could be correct, but so what).

There are too many factors in bitcoin and too many unknowns, even if you know a lot.  In  the end, the most accurate depictions are going to be probabilities and ranges for any particular time frame.  Do you think that it would help if I provided one for you, or are you stuck in your absolutism ways?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

23392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 02:54:55 AM
Does anybody see it going below $600 within the next 24 hours?
This is very sad very sad indeed  Embarrassed


I can see it, but I wear glasses, too.
Well f me and call me willy!
There goes my house! Cry


I hope that you are not leveraged in bitcoin. 

Surely , we gotta prepare for price movements and corrections in either direction, no?  O.k..  we are getting close to a 10% correction from $660... but even a 20% correction, could be within the cards.  I personally believe that there is going to be some trouble getting below $550 for any sustainable period of time, but we get surprised in bitcoin land, nearly all of the time, no? 

Maybe one of the most predictable things in bitcoin is that most guys cannot really predict too well, especially the short term?  But in the long term, it still seems that we are going to be going up, and maybe even breaking the ATH within the next couple of years - at least I hope so....   but if we float (and maybe even bounce around a bit) between $500 and $700 for the next 12 months that is not necessarily a bad thing, is it?

I know a lot of us got our space suits and boots washed, ironed and ready for travel, but yeah, a bit of a delay,no?
23393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2016, 02:46:19 AM
Does anybody see it going below $600 within the next 24 hours?
This is very sad very sad indeed  Embarrassed

I'm betting down to somewhere around 420$ USD in the short term.  I think she'll be vigorously defended there and then rise to ATH in a long and steep bull run.

From where are you getting these figures, from out of your ass?

That is a pretty low amount, and didn't you already notice that $600 had been tested several times in the past month, and only successful once.. Sure it is possible to go down to $420, but that would almost be borderline territory in reversing the bull trend... but that is not what you are saying.  In the end, we gotta get by $500 first and even $550 and $600, so there are a few challenges before even getting to the $400s.

Pretty much...but a little before anything comes out the ass, gut instinct kicks in!  Probably more realistically high 400's. Within a range but I think it's a leg down before more up. Everyone's had a taste of the bull and wants more but patience is likely a virtue this summer.


Funny how guys feel better to quote themselves, even when they concede that they are just guessing in their predictions..

hahahahahaha   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Still a bit premature to be expecting that we are getting to $400s any time soon.  I'm not saying $400s is impossible, just that we gotta get through various resistance points first (and all that before prices reverse and resume their upwards trajectory).  I would think that mid $500s is a decent reversal point - but yeah, that's my sense at the moment, and not really based on too much of anything besides the appearance of overall ongoing upwards price pressures.
23394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2016, 10:57:20 PM
Does anybody see it going below $600 within the next 24 hours?
This is very sad very sad indeed  Embarrassed


I can see it, but I wear glasses, too.
23395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2016, 09:51:24 PM
Barry shilbert and Peter toad...thanks for damaging crypto and BTC.

Hey Pumpy....


You mean that you are not here pumping that not to be named coin?  In comparison, bitcoin is in very decent shape,and really on track to keep prospering with security.    No need to playing around with various attempts at irrelevant and distracting personal attacks.
yoyo jj, not even a hello  Sad...hope all is well m8  Kiss


I said hello to you a few weeks ago, but my post got deleted... I think that my post was too much related to that unspoken thingie magigie.. if you could just stay "on topic," that would help me a lot..

Thanks uuu  a zillion, m8ie.  Wink
lol anything for u jj ,  isnt this on topic? 

anyways i see btc heading towards $500 now, ive been expecting it for a while, all that was required was a lil push.


You mean upper $500s, like breaking below $600 or do you literally mean getting close to $500?

You could be correct if you just suggest that we could break into the upper $500s, but getting to the lower $500s seems like there would be quite a bit of a struggle for that, no? 

Accordingly, there seems to be quite a bit of buying support in these supra $600 price levels, no?
upper $500 will be tested and im very sure lower $500 like around $520s is very possible, i dont see a big struggle to $560 at all.
I hate to say this but crypto is looking like a big joke just now to outsiders.


1) Upper $500s is looking more possible, after today's additional dip. 

2) I agree breaking through the upper $500s could likely bring prices lower, but I do believe that there would be resistance in the $540 to $560 price range 

3) That unnamed coin may be looking like a bit of a joke, and there may be some implications on bitcoin (guilt by association), but really I would consider this to be a kind of normal correction that is not really any kind of deep damnation of bitcoin 

4) Personally, I think that bitcoin is still in bullish trend so long as prices do not go below $420-ish, and I believe it would take quite a bit of negative and momentum and maybe just pure downward manipulation attempts (possibly at a loss) to bring prices even close to those levels, and like I said, I expect considerable resistance in the mid-$500s - and even with that, BTC prices do need to break through the resistance in the lower $600s, too, which is really nothing to sneeze at... am I NOT KORect?   Wink    Cheesy    Grin   Shocked
23396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2016, 04:25:27 AM

Decent read if you can figure out the questions from the answers.. since answers are in english and questions are in chinese.

One important point by Andreas in ref to the blocksize limit increase is that he does not support it at this time because of increased issues with DDOS attacks.
23397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2016, 03:55:32 AM
Barry shilbert and Peter toad...thanks for damaging crypto and BTC.

Hey Pumpy....


You mean that you are not here pumping that not to be named coin?  In comparison, bitcoin is in very decent shape,and really on track to keep prospering with security.    No need to playing around with various attempts at irrelevant and distracting personal attacks.
yoyo jj, not even a hello  Sad...hope all is well m8  Kiss


I said hello to you a few weeks ago, but my post got deleted... I think that my post was too much related to that unspoken thingie magigie.. if you could just stay "on topic," that would help me a lot..

Thanks uuu  a zillion, m8ie.  Wink
lol anything for u jj ,  isnt this on topic? 

anyways i see btc heading towards $500 now, ive been expecting it for a while, all that was required was a lil push.


You mean upper $500s, like breaking below $600 or do you literally mean getting close to $500?

You could be correct if you just suggest that we could break into the upper $500s, but getting to the lower $500s seems like there would be quite a bit of a struggle for that, no? 

Accordingly, there seems to be quite a bit of buying support in these supra $600 price levels, no?
23398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DAO Attacker Owns 10% Of All ETC on: August 01, 2016, 03:02:24 AM
I can't wait too for the dump. The price is gonna be so low Grin ... And guess what, after that we will have a non forked coin with nothing to hold it back.

Yeah right.  You are pie in the sky thinking if you believe this matter is going to resolve with such supposed smoothness.
23399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2016, 02:00:22 AM
Barry shilbert and Peter toad...thanks for damaging crypto and BTC.

Hey Pumpy....


You mean that you are not here pumping that not to be named coin?  In comparison, bitcoin is in very decent shape,and really on track to keep prospering with security.    No need to playing around with various attempts at irrelevant and distracting personal attacks.
yoyo jj, not even a hello  Sad...hope all is well m8  Kiss


I said hello to you a few weeks ago, but my post got deleted... I think that my post was too much related to that unspoken thingie magigie.. if you could just stay "on topic," that would help me a lot..

Thanks uuu  a zillion, m8ie.  Wink
23400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2016, 12:04:36 AM
Barry shilbert and Peter toad...thanks for damaging crypto and BTC.

Hey Pumpy....


You mean that you are not here pumping that not to be named coin?  In comparison, bitcoin is in very decent shape,and really on track to keep prospering with security.    No need to playing around with various attempts at irrelevant and distracting personal attacks.
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