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2341  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: September 26, 2022, 06:01:33 PM
Sepertinya support 18K masih cukup kuat, ini sudah keduakalinya tersentuh di mana terakhir kali adalah pada 28 Juni yang sempat mencapai 17K. saat ini candle sepertinya akan menutup dengan candle hijau, pada TF 1D. dengan Indikator MacD yang sudah dekat untuk melakukan golden cross. retest ke 20K sepertinya dapat meningkatkan sentimen positif.
2342  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: September 26, 2022, 05:54:10 PM
ane mah ga munafik dan udah pasti ikut di sini karena mencari uang dengan ikut bounty dan sejenisnya lagaian ane pengangguran juga umur udah lumayan tua jadi memanfaatkan yang ada untuk mencaari sesuap nasi, walo akhir akhir ini bounty masih kurang bagus ga seperti dulu tapi ane masih mencoba bertahaan

Yang penting ada pekerjaan utama. Tidak masalah mau ikut bounty atau ikut ikut kampanye berbayar BTC dengan gabung forum ini tidak ada yang melarang. Namun, ingat bounty hanya beberapa bulan, dan gajian pun kadang tidak jelas. Begitu pula dengan berbayar btc. Ada yang yang berjalan untuk waktu yang lama, dan ada juga yang sangat singkat. Jadi ini akan membuat kita lebih keras mencari kampanye jika tidak memiliki pekerjaan utama.
2343  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Bappebti Benar Benar Melindungi Investor Indonesia? on: September 26, 2022, 05:51:32 PM
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Ini tentu menjadi kabar yang sangat baik jika pada akhirnya Bappebti dapat memenuhi semua poin yang ada. Karena, dengan demikian investor yang akan join di dunia trading kripto bisa mengenal kripto terlebih dahulu dari serangkaian informasi yang diberikan oleh Bappebti melalui edukasi. Pendampingan transaksi mungkin akan berkisar pada keamanan transaksi. Sejauh ini poin 1 masih sebatas edukasi ringan melalui media (yang butuh berita), apabila ini ditingkatkan mungkin akan menjadi hal yang sangat penting untuk trader baru.
2344  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: September 26, 2022, 05:47:05 PM
Free Bet is our favorite promotion well then the BK8 team can apply rules and requirements to get whether it's Free Bet every week or every big match

Free bets might is good too, but it would be more interesting if users took part in a quiz. Because there will be a competition they have to finish. however, it's also good to have a free bet for a few normal spins for the slots as a reward.



I am not like football soo much. But i like Cricket more then football and many time i put my money for betting Against Cricket. and It's give me high entertainment with winning profit. Although football is a fun game, I find it quite boring. But cricket is known to me as a great fun game. And if it is free bet then it will be more interesting

Yes, that's a "favorite", we have a preference for sports that will be our own choice.
2345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 23, 2022, 11:14:01 AM
Starting this season and not satisfied with Origi, AC Milan is rumored to be bringing in another forward. Douglas Luiz is Milan's main target as well as to replace Ibrahimovic (I'm not sure this will mean Ibrahimovic will retire at the end of the season or just finish his contract with AC Milan). In addition, there are also several other names that are being targeted by Milan such as Gustav Isaksen (FC Midtjylland) and Noah Okafor (RB Salzburg)
2346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 23, 2022, 10:48:57 AM
well in fifth position you access the cups
throw it away as a location
many teams would kill to be sure of the cups, and therefore of money

do not underestimate the goals of the team
for me Udinese does not aim for the Scudetto but to enter some cup (which gives money)


Yes, positions 5 and 6 are positions that can bring teams to play in the UEFA League and UEFA Conference League. It will also be a tough competition between Fiorentina, Lazio, & Atalanta. In this case, I included AS Roma to managed to be in 4th position. Of these 3 teams, Udinese must be consistent when they meet in Serie A, or have better match results than the three teams. It is not easy, so if they are lucky with their consistency until the half of this season, 5th position may be obtained.
2347  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: September 23, 2022, 10:38:00 AM
Still more than a month to go before kick off for the World Cup, means that there is still enough time for BK8 to prepare promotion for this event.
Hopefully BK8 will have big promotions for this event even though I dont really like such football world event but I believe there are many people who are waiting for this event and willing to bet on the matches during the event.
Perhaps we can make suggestions on what type of promotions for this event...any idea?

For those who don't like football from the national team, maybe this event is not that interesting. I also don't like world cup at all. I prefer to watch Serie A. Whereas in the world cup, I will start watching after the group stage, just to wait for the big match. As for promotional ideas, I don't have any ideas, maybe the current promotion methods can be applied and run some quizzes or score predictions, that's enough to make users happy with BK8 offer.
2348  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] !!WASPADA !! Scammer dimana-mana, Ketahui Beberapa Metodenya on: September 23, 2022, 10:28:14 AM
Yang besar kemungkinan bisa hilang itu berarti Coin yang masih dalam jaringan yang sama begitukah? Berarti lebih kurang sama dengan memberikan akses wallet ke orang lain. Hanya dengan proses approval seperti itu ujungnya semua aset coin lainnya bisa diambil tanpa perlu verifikasi itu ini lagi dari pemilik wallet. Itu adakah cara mengenali ciri-ciri kemungkinan scam tidaknya sebelum melakukan swap token/memberikan approval?

Benar, approval untuk melakukan swap dari token A ke token B sama dengan memberikan akses ke pihak lain tanpa memberikan private key. Kita tahu, penggunaan AMM hanya perlu koneksi wallet dan sign untuk melakukan transaksi swap. tidak ada pin atau pun 2FA saat melakukan, ketika approval sudah diberikan hanya perlu melanjutkan saja, memang ada warning untuk melakukan pembelian. Tapi entah bagaimana caranya scammer dapat melewati hal tersebut. Untuk mengenal ciri-ciri token seperti ini, sepertinya hanya bisa dikenal dari coding smart contractnya. Jadi, untuk yang awam sulit untuk membedakannya. bahkan saya sendiri tidak mengetahui ciri-cirinya karena keterbatasan saya dalam memahami kode SC.
2349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead! on: September 23, 2022, 10:18:34 AM
Those who bought bitcoin earlier at a cheaper price, of course, made a profit and perhaps even now with a profit, there are those who bought bitcoin when it was close to its ATH and now they are at a loss. If the financial situation allows, then just need to hold and the situation will be corrected, can also buy more now, to average the price. But the most important thing in this situation is not to sell at a loss, because when bitcoin rises in price again, the situation cannot be corrected...

According to some analysts, the current decline in bitcoin is normal things and need to be like this, because bear market actually good for the long-term price of bitcoin itself in the future. I also believe in that. Because, no business is 100% profitable, buying stocks and gold which is said to be lower risk, also experiences a bear market. Of course this is only a predictions, but the cycle and history maybe have similar pattern. Just wait and see, bitcoin rises again.
2350  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Kesalahpahaman Tentang THE MERGE Ethereum on: September 22, 2022, 02:05:59 PM
Mengenai staking ETH ini, ada hal yang disampaikan oleh perwakilan Ethereum Foundation, kalau staking di exchange sangat tidak disarankan setelah merge ini dilakukan. Menurutnya, staking di exchange justru akan tidak baik untuk jaringan daripada membantu Sumur. Hal ini tentu menjadi pertanyaan bagi sebagian orang, karena ada beberapa exchange yang sudah menjalankan staking pool untuk ETH, apakah ini termasuk dengan apa yang disampaikan oleh tim tersebut?
2351  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Looking for a real mining platforms that pays. on: September 22, 2022, 01:48:58 PM
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Cloud mining on the other hand? Either a scam, or a total waste of money.

That's right, I never believed in cloud mining again, because I had a bad experience with this. First, I got to know cloud mining from eobot, I used eobot then got to know hashflare and used it. Both died after several months of using their service and my money gone without making a single withdrawal. It happened before I joined this forum and still don't understand much with cloud mining, lucky for me not too much money i've use for them.
2352  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 22, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
I was also very surprised by their performances with the big teams. Very nice.
It depends if they manage to keep this athletic condition until the end, obviously I hope so, because the more teams fight for the cups, the more fun games we have.
But this is the complex part for Udinese, to get to the end like this.

At the beginning of every season there are always surprises from mid-table teams that are in the top 3. However, they often experience a decline in performance after half the season and big teams buying additional players and getting best players for coach strategy's in the January transfer market. Perhaps, at this time Udinese looks consistent with the victory over the top teams. However, there is still a long way to go, I am more inclined to believe that one of Napoli, Juventus, Inter and AC Milan will be at the top of the final standings. and for Udinese, finished at top 5 maybe the best positions for them.
2353  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] !!WASPADA !! Scammer dimana-mana, Ketahui Beberapa Metodenya on: September 22, 2022, 11:59:56 AM
btw, saya pribadi belum pernah mengalami hal seperti diatas dan tidak begitu mengetahui banyak tentang "transaksi dibelakang layar" bisa terjadi sebagaimana yang disebutkan agan masulum diatas ketika terlanjur memberikan approval transaksi.

Masalah ini sudah saya pernah bahas di thread altcoin, tapi saya mencoba mencarinya tidak ditemukan karena lupa dengan judul threadnya. Ada banyak metode scam yang saya temukan ketika saya aktif mencari token baru di masa hype token meme yang ada di thead ini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317158.0, mungkin bisa menjadi salah satu informasi tambahan. Intinya, proses transaksi di belakang layar ini adalah, smart contract salah satu token dapat mengambil koin berharga milik pengguna yang disebabkan oleh approval transaksi tersebut. Kasusnya ada yang kehilangan BNB, CAKE dan BUSD. setelah melakukan swap ke token scam tersebut. revoke approval setiap kali melakukan pembelian adalah hal yang bagus, selain dengan mengantisipanya dengan menggunakan address baru/sekali pakai.
2354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much money do you leave in crypto casino? on: September 22, 2022, 11:44:51 AM
I prefer to withdraw the money from casino when I win. it's not just about reputation. but about of my bad gambling activity, when I keeping my money in casino, I will continue to play and lose control after few time playing the game. Then I only left my stupidity for continuing to play until all of money gone. So, everytime i won more than 5x from my deposit, i will manage to withdraw.
2355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: September 22, 2022, 11:38:55 AM
Once you enter, is hard to get out ~XD. Good luck with the recovery journey.

Yes it is true, it will be difficult to get out completely. Unlike the dice that I used to play often in the past, slots provide a sadder experience for me but also more enjoyable experience than dice. So, right now I'm just trying to improve the intensity of my playing so it's not like a few months ago who was too eager to win games continuously every time I felt a lose. It has not been an easy journey, but I feel ready to start this new journey in the near future. with control of my self while playing slot and deposit. this is my goal  Cheesy
2356  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: September 22, 2022, 11:32:44 AM
Hit a big win on a slot game and spend it all on poker. Story of my live. And by the way, world cup is coming, folks.

Wow, congratulations, but it looks like something is missing from this story, what about the results in poker, is it also a big win, because I think there is a loss here hopefully notTongue

yeah world cup will be the long-awaited football competitions. Will there be many promotions and giveaways that will be given by BK8? Let's wait together. I believe a lot of promotions for us while world cup running.
2357  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: September 21, 2022, 03:42:47 PM
kabar penambahan pembelian Bitcoin yang dilakukan oleh MicroStrategy yang dipublikasikan kemarin sepertinya tidak memberikan efek yang bagus terhadap BTC. tidak terjadi fomo sama sekali. justru BTC kemarin malah mengalami penurunan (untuk saat ini sedikit ada kenaikan, saat komen dibuat). Tak banyak memang hanya 301 bitcoin. Apakah ini tanda bahwa pasar sekarang tidak lagi mudah termakan berita yang dikeluarkan oleh media maupun dari tokoh penting di jagad soc med?.
2358  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] !!WASPADA !! Scammer dimana-mana, Ketahui Beberapa Metodenya on: September 21, 2022, 03:36:57 PM
Ini ada kaitannya dengan post ane di board lain. Saya yakin untuk perihal mengkoneksikan atau mengdiskoneksi wallet, khususnya Metamask, itu tidak berpengaruh secara signifikan dalam hal keamanan sebuah wallet. Fungsi wallet connection dari suatu platform dengan sebuah wallet itu hanya bertujuan untuk mengizinkan platform terkait bisa melihat address, konten wallet, histori transaksi, dan melakukan proses inisiasi transaksi[1].

Mengoneksikan dan memberi akses untuk transaksi adalah yang paling sering membawa korban mas. kalau hanya mengoneksikan memang tidak akan jadi masalah karena ibarat metode login, ini hanya login, tanpa password. Seperti google auth, facebook auth dan sebagainya. Jadi, wallet hanya terkoneksi tanpa bisa melakukan apapun. Kecuali approval untuk transaksi diberikan kepada token/nft scam, saat itulah proses transaksi dibelakang layar terjadi. Ini sering terjadi pada saat hype meme token 2020/2021. Orang kehilangan token bernilai karena memberikan approval pada salah satu token yang baru ia temukan tersebut.
2359  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tips that could help crypto beginners. on: September 21, 2022, 03:30:16 PM
If VCs are investing in altcoins I don't see any reason why anyone shouldn't, either its a scam or not if you use what you can afford to lose there will never be any problem, the only thing left is learning a better lesson and adjust as you go, we've all lose money at one point in crypto space but we get better, I know bitcoin is the safest but BTC and Metaverse are from from each other, BTC and P2E are far from each other, I am not going to stick with BTC only, its impossible.

BTC and metaverse. this is indeed a different world. Metaverse is the hype in today's era. Investing in the metaverse as an early adopter some time ago was able to provide big profits for investors, traders and community holders. But, if I personally were given a choice (this is not financial advice), then I would go all-in in BTC rather than venture into the metaverse. Because, I have to do further research to find out the potential viability of the project. Meanwhile, BTC has more potential in any way. IMO / NFA
2360  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: September 21, 2022, 03:23:40 PM
The deposit made in BK8 will be credited 100% in special bonus with a requirement of 6x? I understand that a minimum wagering requirement is the deposit +100% and this is x6, isn't it?

Yes, if you join this bonus program, you must be able to make at least 6x the value of the deposit you made. Let's say your deposit is 180K IDR and following this 100% bonus, then you must place a bet with a minimum value of 180,000*6. If at the time you experience a big win in several spins, then you must meet the TO first before you can withdraw all your winnings.


Regarding BTC it is very encouraging that they do not have any withdrawal fee, this means that in case I want to make a deposit without wanting to take the bonus and if I win 50USD in Bitcoin, I have the right to withdraw the total money without any rate? BK8 is raising a lot of level, there are many looking to play here, if they put as their main slogan that their bitcoin withdrawals are free, this will call many people to play.

If you make a deposit without a bonus, then you will be charged 1x TO, so you have to play the same value as your deposit value 1x. The BTC withdrawal rate will be set automatically, so there is no need to do anything. this rate will be locked in a few minutes. So, it would be safe if there was a flash dump. For example, you withdraw BTC and are locked at a price of 20,000, when BTC price after your withdrawal drops to 18,000, you still earn at rate of 20,000 and there is nothing change. this is the advantage of BK8 in terms of withdrawal. both fiat and crypto impose zero fees for withdrawals.
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