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2341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: what kind of node asic has on: April 30, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
in short. all Mining pools run a full node?. or some of pools are not?.  

If you want to run a pool, you need access to a node... So yes, they are either running a node, or they are paying somebody to run a node they can query.
The pool needs at very least the header of the previous block, and if they don't want to mine blocks with only the coinbase transaction, they also need information about the broadcasted transactions... And if they want to include these transactions, they need to update their utxo set, so they need to parse the complete blockchain... In other words: they need to run a node Smiley

I think what OP is asking is whether mining pool operators use a full or a pruned node.

In general it seems to make sense for mining pools to run a full node, since if you already harness millions of dollars worth of computational power there's no sense on skimping when it comes to running a node, amirite?

But from a technical perspective it seems like they could run a pruned node just as well, since they only care about current transactions. Or would a mining pool be prevented from publishing blocks if they are not connected to the network as a full node?
2342  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why does Bitcoin keep using SHA256 in its POW? on: April 28, 2018, 11:11:53 PM
IMO, ASICs are fine. With CPU and GPU only coins, the possibility of botnets would still be there. One CPU one vote has never been a reality.

I also think that for the most part the upsides of ASICs outweigh their downsides. ASICs themselves are not problematic, it's when there's too little competition in the mining market that things could get ugly.

Given the recent uptick of Bitcoin's valuation I think it's likely that we'll see new players entering the mining business over the next couple of years though -- keeping the market fresh and flowing.


The question that comes in my mind is not regarded to ASIC resistance, but to the security of the hash function over time. What will happen with the current SHA256 implementation when SHA256 gets depricated and declared unsafe?

Depends on what kind of flaw is found. Keep in mind that the use case of a PoW scheme is different from the use case of eg. hashing your users' passwords.

Best case it's the kind of flaw that makes SHA256 faster to calculate, in which case we'll simply see a new generation of miners.

Worst case Bitcoin needs to hardfork to a new PoW scheme. This would come with a lot of drama on which algo to choose, possibly leading to a multitude of competing PoW hardforks, but sooner or later one blockchain would emerge as the canonical Bitcoin blockchain. Even then we might see the original, SHA256 Bitcoin, continuing its existence although at likely a much lower market rate, corresponding to the severity of the found flaw.
2343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LIST] List of decentralized Stablecoins on: April 28, 2018, 10:38:59 PM
Nice writeup. While I don't follow Stablecoins all that closely it definitely is interesting to see a comprehensive list of approaches at controlling volatility.

I'm not quite convinced that stability can be reliably achieved within tolerance levels that are acceptable for the general populace (say, < 5%) but they do give an opportunity to look at market forces in wholly new ways.
2344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How cryptocurrencies emerged as a side product of digital cash on: April 27, 2018, 02:45:29 PM
To realize digital cash you need a payment network with accounts, balances, and transaction.

Not quite, Bitcoin has neither accounts nor balances Wink

It's just transactions all the way down...

Bitcoin has neither accounts nor balances, but it is not transaction all the way down. Bitcoin(and other cryptocurrencies as well) have wallet, which is used instead of accounts, with a designated address to send  and receive coins which can be controlled by using the private key. It also got blockchain that helps it successfully finish one cycle of transaction and block explorer to track the transaction's progress.

It really is just transactions all the way down though, that's how the protocol works. All that wallets do is process these transaction in a way that make sense to the user. That is, they scan the blockchain for transactions of which they can spend the outputs and show it to as the balance of the respective address and subsequently as the total balance of the wallet or account (the latter applying to HD wallets).

In the case of Bitcoin, accounts and balances are just metaphors that we use to make our life easier. From a technical perspective they are neither needed nor implemented.
2345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I.T Professionals and bitcoin industry on: April 25, 2018, 04:11:03 PM

Once the monthly wage is gone from a mobile wallet, those people will lose all trust into cryptos (even if their mobile is at fault).
A few of such cases would lead to a huge wave of criticism towards cryptos in general.

I don't know for sure but so far Bitcoin itself seems to have held up quite well when it comes to security but as I understand it
if a lightning wallet transmits an out of date transaction to the network then the banking hub can claim all the money in the
off-chain private ledger.

Only your direct counterparty can claim the collateral in case of a explicitely provoked channel state mismatch. Routing nodes along the way have no say in this. They don't even know who's sending how much to whom.


Thing is who do you call if it was not your fault and how can you compete against bankers rules since they have full access to the
protocol that won't be available to normal wallets.

No such thing as different kinds of access to the protocol. Both the protocol specification and the various LN implementations are open source and available to the public.
2346  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why Transaction Fees in the First Place? on: April 25, 2018, 02:49:40 PM
Market forces did not work when it came to Tx fees as they hit $55 per transaction with these 20,000 miners
so obviously it's nothing more than a monopoly.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but mining has nothing to with how much transaction fees are calculated.

There's limited space on the blockchain. As such, if the demand (ie. transaction count) exceeds the supply (ie. available space per block) mining fees go up, as people try to get on top of the priority list. That's how a market works. That's all there is to it.


EVO/IOTA/Ripple/RailHash/DAC

PayPal and VISA, you forgot about those two.
2347  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hackers everywhere - GUIDE - How to keep your crypto wealth safe on: April 25, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
Solid writeup. Apart from some typos, just two minor nitpicks:

Quote from: Crypto Community Foundation
all ERC20 tokens can be stored in wallet you can create at myetherwallet.com and then to access them is most secure to use metamask Google or Firefox extension

myetherwallet can also be used in conjunction with hardware wallets, which is yet another step up from metamask Wink


Quote from: Crypto Community Foundation
always use antivirus — Avast, AVG, Norton, ..

Nowadays third party antivirus software is turning out to be more of a liability rather than an improvement. They tend to install questionable root certificates and effectively MitM otherwise secure connections. All in all third party antivirus software increases your attack surface, so in most cases your probably better off using the antivirus software that comes out-of-the-box with your operating system (eg. Windows Defender in the case of, well, Windows).

It is also worth noting that against properly written, targeted attacks, most antivirus software is pretty much useless.


But apart from that, like I said, solid writeup.
2348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anonymity of cryptocurrencies owners on: April 25, 2018, 12:36:42 PM
What is your opinion about cryptocurrencies anonymity considering this issue?

What's the alternative? Every user being publicly known? Records about each user being kept by a trusted third party?

All of this only puts holders in harm's way while not preventing cryptocurrency-thieves from doing their thing. Quite the opposite. It would merely make staking out potential targets easier, while cryptocurrency-thieves will likely just find other ways to stay anonymous.

You can't fight anonymity, so use it to your advantage.
2349  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Even air-gapped wallets aren't safe... on: April 25, 2018, 09:18:14 AM
Curious how people went off the deep end with regards to the Hardware Wallet "Proof of Concept" exploits... that also REQUIRE physical access to the device... and yet this "proof of concept" receives the following

PoC exploits should always be taken seriously, despite being PoC only. Apart from that I fully agree with you. The PoC in question doesn't even affect hardware wallets to begin with. It just shows that if you have full access to an unsecured hardware device and its software you can do amazing things with it.

As an attack it is thwarted by applying best practices in terms of security. Which is why these best practices exist to begin with.


Looks like the only secure way is to write down private keys and store separate parts of them in fireproof, blast proof steel cube.

Or, you know... buying a hardware wallet.
2350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bigger Than the Internet on: April 25, 2018, 12:05:29 AM
I don't think OP is asking if Bitcoin can physically and technically be bigger than the internet, he's asking if Bitcoin will have a larger, more profound effect on society like the internet did.

I think by 'bigger' than the internet he means it will change society more profoundly than the internet. It will change how we bank, how we work - it will continue to mint millionaires, shift power, open up possibilities that were not there before. I agree.

It's just semantics, but isn't any impact that Bitcoin has by extension attributable to the internet as well? After all the internet is what is enabling Bitcoin in the first place. Did anyone ever say that email will become bigger than the internet? Or that the world wide web will become bigger than the internet?

Maybe he meant to say that Bitcoin will become bigger than the world wide web. That would still be a contentious statement, but at least it would make sense. Saying that Bitcoin will become bigger than the internet, however, is a meaningless statement that only makes for a nice headline and nothing more.
2351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How cryptocurrencies emerged as a side product of digital cash on: April 24, 2018, 11:48:56 PM
To realize digital cash you need a payment network with accounts, balances, and transaction.

Not quite, Bitcoin has neither accounts nor balances Wink

It's just transactions all the way down...


It's important to remember that Satoshi's work didn't happen in a vacuum. Most of the concepts had been around for quite a while. However Satoshi was the one to finally piece everything together in a way that would give birth to a whole new asset class.

For anyone interested, I can't recommend this article enough:
https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2017/12/223058-bitcoins-academic-pedigree/fulltext
2352  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Will bitcoins no longer be mined after 2024? on: April 24, 2018, 11:18:30 PM
Assuming that someone will use Bitcoin in the 2140, miners will earn bitcoins only from the transaction fees.
Is the fact that miners will get reward only from transaction fees means that mining won't be so profitable, or that fees will cost more?

The profitability of Bitcoin mining won't change, the network's hashrate will. The hashrate (or rather: the resources spent on Bitcoin mining) will depend on the total amount of transaction fees spent. The transaction fees will depend on the amount of people using Bitcoin.


Not necessarily. In the future, the volume for Bitcoin might increase substantially and more transactions can fit inside a block. That means for any given block, more fees would be collected collectively. It would depend largely on how far the scaling has gone though.

Oh yeah, and that too.
2353  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it possible to use Bitcoin Blockchain for Litecoin ? on: April 24, 2018, 10:56:22 PM
I just read it, but it's not exactly my goal here Smiley

My request is a kind of HARD FORK, manage for example Litecoin source code to use Bitcoin Blockchain where everyone get the same amount of coins they possess at a certain block.

If it's not possible with Litecoin, is it possible for any other ALTCOIN based on Bitcoin core tech.

Thank you


Well, you could make a Bitcoin hardfork that uses the same metrics as Litecoin (ie. same PoW algo, block reward, block interval, etc...)

However such a coin would be neither Bitcoin nor Litecoin -- it would just be a Bitcoin hardfork using the same metrics as Litecoin.

Either way, not sure how much Litecoin's codebase has diverged from Bitcoin's ever since the code got forked -- after a lot has happened since then -- but it's likely still one of the technologically closer alts (apart from more recent hardforks, of course).
2354  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestions to improve the forum and limit shitposting - the easy way on: April 24, 2018, 09:55:09 PM
Is there anyway the forum can verify an account? Such as linking to Facebook - telegram? This would make shit posters life a lot harder.

No.
2355  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Even air-gapped wallets aren't safe... on: April 24, 2018, 09:48:14 PM
I think this is the most important thing about cold storage, hardwallets, etc.
People buy hardwallets a little cheaper from third party seller, compromising security.

As Bitcoin was booming we watched as these hardware wallets doubled in price so lets not pretend that we are
dealing with nice people here who can themselves be trusted.

That those third party resellers can not be trusted is exactly the point that bitmover is making though.

If you refer to SatoshiLabs and Ledger themselves -- SatoshiLabs never increased the Trezor price, except for priority shipping. Ledger did increase their price, but not even close to doubling it.

Keep in mind that both those companies are rather small operations, so production bottlenecks are indeed a thing and not just a way to artificially manipulate supply and demand.


God knows what Microsoft get up to when you plug these wallets into the USB ports and the same is also true
with Intel Chips and I think you are safer trusting something made in China than anything made in the USA.

Doesn't matter. Hardware wallets are built to work securely even on compromised computer systems, regardless of whether it's been compromised by malware or out-of-the-box. That applies to both the computer's software and hardware.


We still don't have the right formula but maybe something using optical none electrical crystal lenses that you
wear as glasses is going to be the way to go.

Light-based quantum encrypted transmission channels have existed for a long time and have been cracked as far back as 2010:
https://www.nature.com/news/2010/100829/full/news.2010.436.html

I'm not sure how this relates to the current discussion though.
2356  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do we need halving? on: April 24, 2018, 08:54:39 PM
Literally halving is translated as halving.

wut


Today this principle is used in many crypto-currencies with POW-mining, because artificially limited emissions increase the value of each coin.

You pretty much answered your own question, but anyways. It is worth noting that limited supply does not apply to PoW coins only, and that there are PoW coins that do not limit their supply.


That being said: One effect of the halvings that often gets ignored, yet in my opinion is worth a mention, is that it ultimately keeps Bitcoin's power usage in check. Assuming Bitcoin's price finds a stable level, each halving will see miners drop off the network and power usage reduced as a new profitability equilibrium is found.

Another thing I find interesting about Bitcoin's halving is the 4 year cycle of sudden decreases instead of a more gradual schedule. My pet theory is that this 4 year cycle coincides with the public's attention span, causing upward price pressure and therefore media interest whenever the general public was just to forget about Bitcoin.
2357  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestions to improve the forum and limit shitposting - the easy way on: April 24, 2018, 08:29:34 PM
For an interested newbie crypto can be already intimidating enough, pre-emptively shutting them out completely would make matters only worse. After all we also want the community to grow.

I remember when I started out in 2013 newbies where only restricted to certain sections -- is this still the case? It seemed to work rather well back then.
Yea I remember that, the idea being to read more then you speak since you are new.   I guess thats a fair bias, we have 2 ears and only one mouth for a reason Tongue
I also found it a bit frustrating that we had to just 'do your time' when reading the forum, we couldn't post everywhere.   So if I had a specific question I would just google it instead quite often, so long as there is readable FAQ thats ok. [...]

That's the thing though. Most of the questions that get asked over and over again are already covered in stickies -- or countless other threads on the same topic. So if something like a newbie jail actually encourages people to use the search function or google first, that's a plus in my book.
2358  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Even air-gapped wallets aren't safe... on: April 24, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
NOTE: before you get tooooo paranoid, these attacks all require that the cold storage device is compromised.

That's the important bit Smiley

Not getting your system compromised is one of the reason you air gap them in the first place. The other thing is that this also means that hardware wallets are not affected by this attack, so hooray for hardware wallets!


Physical access to a device will always be a problem. Some guys even found ways to extract private keys from a Trezor a

while ago, albeit with special tools.

Trezor bugs are usually fixed swiftly, but some guys even found ways to extract private keys from Bitcoiners a while ago, albeit with special tools:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/man-robbed-at-gunpoint-for-1100-worth-of-bitcoins-in-brooklyn
https://cointelegraph.com/news/russia-blogger-who-boasted-about-crypto-wealth-beaten-and-robbed-for-425k
https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/910958/Bitcoin-ripple-ethereum-UK-robbery-cryptocurrency-armed-thugs-oxfordshire-news-latest

Physical access is not just a technological problem, unfortunately.


[...] and after I printed them, I physically destroyed the hardware. {crushed & melted it} [...]   

I like your style Grin
2359  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestions to improve the forum and limit shitposting - the easy way on: April 24, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
A lot of the senior members came here because they wanted to ask a question. I came here because I wanted advice in setting up a wallet, and the forum members were extremely helpful. At that time there was a problem with faucet spam, but it was nowhere near as serious as the current spam problem. Genuine new members should be encouraged, and this can be done on a moderated beginners board. [...]

I concur. There's already posting restrictions for new accounts in place. While we may argue about whether these restrictions are tight enough, completely preventing new accounts from being able to open a new thread sounds like a bad idea to me; as it would very likely also shut out new members that are genuinely interested in the matter. For an interested newbie crypto can be already intimidating enough, pre-emptively shutting them out completely would make matters only worse. After all we also want the community to grow.

I remember when I started out in 2013 newbies where only restricted to certain sections -- is this still the case? It seemed to work rather well back then.
2360  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: AWS Blockchain Templates. on: April 23, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
It looks to me that they are totally missing the point of blockchain.

Pretty much the whole industry does.

Just look at IBM, Microsoft, JP Morgan... sometimes I wonder if these companies themselves are aware of the bullshit they're selling or whethere they're too blinded by the cargo cult called "blockchain, the technology". I mean supposedly there must be enough smart people working at these companies for them to realize that it's not the right tool for the job... right? Right? When the European Central Bank did their research on using a blockchain for international remittance they at least had the integrity to admit: Nope, that's not gonna work for us. Alas, using existing public infrastructure -- ie. decentralized blockchains -- is apparently not as profitable as trying to force your own proprietary standards.

Aw well. Enough of a rant. This too, shall pass.
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