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1741  Economy / Economics / Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam on: October 18, 2018, 09:41:04 PM
So the net effect actually reduces the amount of taxes to help people - because now everyone is getting paid, not just the most needy. For this system to succeed the government needs to significantly raise taxes or significantly cutting spending in other areas of society.

Where would this additional tax money come from? What are the experts proposing?


I've mentioned two previously suggested approaches further upthread:

Remember Bill Gate's call for income taxes on robots and AIs? It sounded kinda silly at first but will likely become a necessity in the future if we want to prevent the gap between the rich and the poor to widen further.

Incidentally it could also be the most viable way to finance UBI; a question that has -- in my opinion -- been largely inadequately answered for the last decade or so during which UBI started to receive public attention.

Fully agreed. It's a challenge I've seen again and again when it comes to approaches on how to finance UBI: Unless you find a way to globally normalize financing and distributing UBI you'll always have a problem with geographical arbitrage, eg. tax evasion or similar ways to profit from subsidies while avoiding contribution. For example, one of the earlier UBI approaches I came across suggested financing UBI by replacing income tax with an increased sales tax, thus putting the bulk of taxation on the wealthy while also removing the incentive to "optimize" your income. Obviously such a system would get easily exploited by importing goods from countries with regular sales tax, so we'd be back to square one lest we bid goodbye to the free market.

[...]

Both approaches have the premise in common that providing UBI would stimulate the economy by providing a larger part of the population with essential capital.

Optimistically it is a reflection of the law of diminishing returns, that is: 1,000,000 people with USD 1,000,- each will spend more than a single person with USD 1,000,000,000,- because in the end there's only so much money can buy but everyone needs to eat.

Pessimistically it is a necessity to prevent Capitalism from cannibalizing itself by ensuring that the general populace is able to continue purchasing goods and services and keeping the economy going (a point that gets criticized as a downside by the article mentioned in OP because seizing sharing the means of production has worked so well in the past /s).

So that's one way how financing UBI is being looked at. I guess essentially you could call it "reverse trickle down economics" which, unlike its namesake, may actually work for a change.


Another line of thinking I've seen is that by replacing existing social security and welfare programs with UBI you could get rid of a lot of bureaucratic and administrative overhead (ie. no need to waste resources on evaluating how much each person gets if everyone simply gets the same) and thus save money that could be used to help finance UBI.


That's what I can think of off the top of my head, I'm not sure what other approaches are out there. I think the financing challenge is one of the most difficult aspects to experimentally verify in real world UBI trials (ie. most trials that I'm aware of have been essentially capital injections). However I do think that tweaking socio-economic incentives in a way that allows financing UBI by pure market mechanics alone is both possible and viable.
1742  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proof of waiting better than proof of stake and proof of work on: October 18, 2018, 04:05:25 PM
[...]

To generate a new address, the user should specify the public address in a file and calculate the nonce. The difficulty level would be set in such a way that an average computer would take about an hour to compute the nonce. [...]

How would the network know what difficulty is required to ensure so that an average computer needs about an hour until an address is generated?
1743  Economy / Economics / Re: China's Bitcoin Dominance Is Worrying Trump's White House, Pushing It To Ripple on: October 18, 2018, 03:13:17 PM
Does anyone think ripple could eventually become the american supported crypto currency?

Sure. What's more to love for a government than a centralized currency? But once it comes to that it would likely be less attractive to the rest of the world. What's the point of using a government controlled cryptocurrency? Might as well stick to fiat.
1744  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestion Needed: where I can get free images to be used in writing. on: October 18, 2018, 12:53:24 PM
Yet another collection of royalty free photos (that are also free free, not just royalty free for a small licensing fee):
https://unsplash.com/

And here's a nice list of public domain / CC0 photo directories which I've also found to be incredibly useful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Public_domain_image_resources

1745  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Method of removing $ 1,000 to $ 1500 within 2 months on: October 18, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
There's no surefire bet to increase an investment by 50% within 2 months. Even if there were, people would be unlikely to share it.

That being said, if anyone tells you otherwise they are lying to your face and you should take your money and leave.
1746  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: tether is allowed to trade on exchanges at various prices on: October 18, 2018, 11:56:07 AM
but what is the "promise". Can I sell it back to Tether for a dollar? I assume not. So I don't understand what the point of this "promise" is if it's traded on an exchange like every other coin

Exactly. Which is why many have cautioned people to stay away from centrally issued stablecoins such as Tether.

There are also attempts at decentralized stablecoins, but it's not an easy problem to solve:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3421190.0



[...]

The more interesting thing is to see what the collapse of Tether does to the price of BTC. If there is a somewhat orderly exit from Tether (this is what is happening right now) and the position is unwound then when it does collapse the impact may not be significant. But if Tether lets go in a hurry, and it probably will, then expect to see some carnage. BTC is yet to prove it's worth as anything more than a gambling platform and if people don't think they can win at any odds then they probably won't want to play the game.

That depends which way the money leaves. People selling USDT does not equate people leaving crypto for good. Currently the majority seems to flow towards BTC, rather than USD:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether/#markets
1747  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Are blockchain tracking sites tracking Segwit adoption wrong? on: October 18, 2018, 09:21:13 AM
Thanks Heretik. Would it then be fair to postulate that some people or organizations that say that Segwit is more "adopted" than Bitcoin Cash are wrong, or maybe biased, based on their interpretation of the data?

Take a look at this.

https://blog.bitmex.com/segwit-vs-bitcoin-cash-transaction-volume-update-bitcoin-cash-investor-flow-update/

I don't think so.


First of all, the graph above would need to be cleaned up regarding the Bitcoin Cash stress tests mentioned in the article:

The Bitcoin Cash numbers are somewhat skewed by the “stress tests” which occurred in August 2018 and then September 2018.

Anyone who would use the graph above to "prove" Bitcoin Cash transactions catching up to SegWit transactions would be biased in their interpretation of the data themselves.


Secondly, in this discussion so far we have only established that weighting SegWit transaction count based on the ratio of legacy vs SegWit inputs may be a more objective metric. As of now we haven't even checked the difference between weighted SegWit transaction count and simple SegWit transaction count. Put differently I'd love to see the data on which franky1 bases their claim of SegWit transactions being on average only "0.25 SegWit".

Looking at the last few blocks I see that the majority of transactions (I guess > 95%) consist of either legacy transactions only or SegWit transactions only. The mix of SegWit and legacy inputs seems to be rather rare, at least rarer than to have an impact of the magnitude as described by franky1.

Obviously one would need to take a larger sample than the manual look that I just did, but the point is: Without any data to back it up, franky1's claim of SegWit adoption being only 1/4th of what most statistics tell is a baseless assumption. If I missed the part of discussion where actual data is used to prove this claim (ie. a weighted SegWit transaction count or the amount of "mixed" SegWit transactions) please link me up.
1748  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am not fan of KYC on: October 17, 2018, 01:15:57 PM
[...]

In my opinion investors should ask KYC for ICO team. Because investors are investing their hard work money. Team should prove themselves they are real. May be team will explain to avoid multiple account they are asking for KYC. I am not agree with that. I can create multiple account even with KYC. I have family member and friends so I can used their identy to verify KYC. So it's not appropriate reasone to ask for KYC.

[...]

The sad truth is that even knowing the real identities of an ICO team accounts for nothing more often than not. Crypto has seen its fair share of questionable investment opportunities for a long time and even in cases where the identities of key figures where known they were rarely held accountable.


[...] some do it because they are going to sell your documents on the darknet.

[...]

Based on the sheer amount of airdrops lately I'm convinced that a fair share of projects do just that. Probably not as profitable as carding but definitely easier.
1749  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Are blockchain tracking sites tracking Segwit adoption wrong? on: October 17, 2018, 11:55:01 AM
Transactions can include inputs from both legacy as well as SegWit addresses. As soon as a transaction includes a single input from a SegWit address, the whole transaction needs to be sent in the SegWit format.

Looking at the code in the repository posted by ETFbitcoin above, that's all that segwit.dance is checking for:

Code:
if txraw[8:12] == '0001':  # segwit tx has 0 inputs and 1 output
   txsegwit += 1

https://github.com/prusnak/segwit.party/blob/gh-pages/charts/extract.py

Unless I'm missing some additional data processing there's no weighing going in terms of how many inputs came from legacy addresses and how many inputs came from SegWit addresses.

So yes, frank1 is right in that a transaction is counted as a (full) SegWit transaction regardless of how many legacy inputs are involved. I'm not sure if I'd call it misleading though as from a protocol view a SegWit transaction is simply a SegWit transaction as soon as a single SegWit input is included. As such the data is pretty straight forward and a fairly reasonable metric to use.

If it's a useful metric for defining SegWit adoption is up for debate of course. But what does SegWit adoption even mean? eg. SegWit transactions weighted by input ratio, percentage of blockweight taken up by SegWit transactions, count of used SegWit addresses, bitcoins stored in SegWit addresses...? I guess you'd have to use a mixture of multiple metrics to get a clearer picture. The conclusions would still be a question of interpretation though.
1750  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: So I decided to try out this new cold wallet and that is my opinion and of it. on: October 16, 2018, 03:00:06 PM
[...] like ledger in terms of security

[...] it has Bluetooth technology to connect to any smartphone

Choose one.

I'm not saying that secure wireless connections are impossible, but I definitely wouldn't trust a hardware wallet with a bluetooth connection until it's far more established and a lot of people have hacked away on it.

Talking about hacking away, there are no public repositories and the software seems to closed source. No way I'm gonna touch that.
1751  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Solution to scam projects and ICOs on: October 15, 2018, 02:57:15 PM
Getting rid of governmental intervention and centralized control is the whole point of crypto.

Obviously you can't get rid of it entirely, but if you do high risk investments in an unregulated space and then lose money it's your own fault entirely.

People not doing their homework before throwing money at some random project is why ICOs are riddled with scams and questionable business plans to begin with. Trading within an unregulated such as crypto means you and you alone are responsible for your own luck. If you mess up, own it.

If you want to invest within a regulated space, why not stick with classical investments such as bonds, stocks and investment fonds? The yields may not be as pretty but least they are "safe"?
1752  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is happening right now? (2018/10/15) on: October 15, 2018, 01:39:25 PM
Seems like people are fleeing from USDT and are thus moving into BTC and some of the alts in case USDT turns out to be insolvent.

Not sure why everone is fleeing USDT right now however.

The price of tether was dropping since few days and today there was a rumor that Binance will delist tether. But this news was not accepted by Binance CEO.
https://twitter.com/cz_binance

That makes sense. I wasn't aware of these rumors so I wonder how big the impact really was. However I've never used Binance so maybe the rumours were bigger "news" than what I perceived (or rather: failed to perceive).


Not sure why everone is fleeing USDT right now however.

It doesn't look like it's fully backed anymore. It's trading at $0.96 a piece at the moment, according to CoinMarketCap.

I assumed that it's down at 0.96 USD because people are fleeing, but now that you mention it Tether should have been able to prop the price up regardless. Hoh boy.


Btw has anyone else noticed how USDC is trading at more than 8% above face value right now? Seems like the battle of the USD-backed stablecoins has begun.
1753  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: SEC to Begin Reviewing 9 Rejected Bitcoin ETFs on: October 15, 2018, 12:29:04 PM
Better they allow some to pass. It is funny that Bitcoin future is trading but no ETF allowed, it should be the opposite, to allow ETF first before the future.

It sounds kinda silly but starts to make sense once you take a closer look at it: Futures are mostly traded by financial professionals and almost always high risk. ETFs are mostly traded by the general public and institutional investors who assume a much lower risk than people trading derivatives. As such the regulations on ETFs have to be far more stringent than with Futures, regardless of Bitcoin's involvement.
1754  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is happening right now? (2018/10/15) on: October 15, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Seems like people are fleeing from USDT and are thus moving into BTC and some of the alts in case USDT turns out to be insolvent.

Not sure why everone is fleeing USDT right now however.
1755  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to increase bitcoin data storing size? Bitcoin colored coin? on: October 15, 2018, 09:37:57 AM
What do you want to achieve?

If you want to issue your own token on the Bitcoin blockchain, look into Omni [1] or Counterparty [2]. Conceptually these tokens are similar to Ethereum's ERC-20 tokens, but with lesser smart contract capabilities.

[1] https://www.omnilayer.org/
[2] https://counterparty.io/
1756  Economy / Economics / Re: Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam on: October 13, 2018, 09:08:29 PM
Yes, I've heard Bill Gates' proposal to tax the machines, I've heard many others claiming a similar point. However it's not that easy... it's once again a problem of borders and jurisdictions. If you are taxing machines hosted in jurisdiction A, then owner will move said machines in jurisdiction B, which doesn't tax them, or tax them at a small % I might say.

The result is a lot of the machines are moved in jurisdiction B and they end up having a better public system due more taxes paid there even if at a lower rate.

Just like the so called Tobin tax, it would need to be global, and I don't see that happening, so the future is very uncertain.

Fully agreed. It's a challenge I've seen again and again when it comes to approaches on how to finance UBI: Unless you find a way to globally normalize financing and distributing UBI you'll always have a problem with geographical arbitrage, eg. tax evasion or similar ways to profit from subsidies while avoiding contribution. For example, one of the earlier UBI approaches I came across suggested financing UBI by replacing income tax with an increased sales tax, thus putting the bulk of taxation on the wealthy while also removing the incentive to "optimize" your income. Obviously such a system would get easily exploited by importing goods from countries with regular sales tax, so we'd be back to square one lest we bid goodbye to the free market.

Come to think of it, solving the challenge of global taxation would likely solve a huge chunk of socio-economic inequalities all by itself. If international corporations where finally forced to pay taxes like everyone else instead of gorging themselves on Double Irish Dutch sandwiches [1] we'd probably all be better off.

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/double-irish-with-a-dutch-sandwich.asp
1757  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin even work in our current system? on: October 13, 2018, 08:43:34 PM
It's bigger than that.

Our economy is not merely stimulated by people buying on credit. It is built upon companies being able to take credit to invest in future developments. As such I don't think an economy where there would be only Bitcoin would flourish.

For as much flak as fiat gets, it did enable economic growth in a previously unprecedented way. As such I think we won't be able to operate without it all that easily, unless we find an economic model that does not rely on wealth generation by borrowing money from the future.


It enabled it because it gave people fake money on credit. If you have a company, need 10000 USD to buy equipment and want to borrow from your family members but all they have is 1000 USD, you struggle. Your company doesn't grow, you don't make money.But when suddenly you're able to write a check with 10000 on it and get what you need it all starts to work well.
Is it ok when the money is fake? You are happy because your company grows, the seller of the equipment gets paid, he's happy, but somewhere at the end of the line is a person who doesn't get paid. Who wants to cash in the check but the money isn't there. The fiat system works well as long as only a few people want to cash in their checks. There's not enough money for all of them.

Not quite.

The part where "there's not enough money for all of them" is what you get if you'd apply a credit based system to a fixed, constant money supply. Both the boon and bane of fiat currencies is that the supply is potentially endless, so there will always be money available. Increasing the money supply works well enough if it correlates with economic growth (ie. credit is being used to create wealth by producing and providing useful goods and services). It utterly fails whenever the economy doesn't reflect the available money supply (ie. credit is wasted on empty housing, failing startups, dictators with lavish lifestyles etc).

That is, generally speaking. Obviously the problem you are describing does exist, it just has a slightly different cause. It's what you get when fractional banking goes wrong, that is, when people start over-leveraging their assets, risks are wrongfully assessed and credit by consequence becomes more plentiful than healthy. As with everything, it is the dose that makes the poison. A sane credit system does work and makes sure that the money borrowed will later on be reflected in the wealth created. Unfortunately that is not always the case, eg. when reckless crediting becomes incentivized and accountability becomes close to nil. Risking other people's money is easier than risking your own. Even moreso if you get a bonus when something goes wrong and merely a slap on the wrist when disaster strikes.

Note, however, that fractional banking does not only affect fiat currencies. We've seen the same thing happen in crypto, most famously with MtGox. And here we arrive at what in my opinion is one of the most important features of Bitcoin: Being able to autonomously store and transact money, without being dependent on any third parties. Bitcoin being deflationary is, in my opinion, more or less incidental, even though it was necessary to move digital assets into the spotlight. Self-reliance and independence is what makes crypto important in my book.


1758  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Decrypt sha 512 on: October 13, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
No such think as decrypting a hash. You can try to brute-force it, yes, but short of a significant weakness or vulnerability there's no way to decrypt a hash.

Cryptographic hash functions are by definition one way. That is, unlike regular encryption, a cryptographic hash is irreversible. If you want to be able to encrypt and decrypt your data, you are looking for a cipher, not a hash.


Here's an npm package that might be of interest to you:
https://www.npmjs.com/package/crypto-js

Apart from various cryptographic hashes, this library also includes a handful of well known ciphers:
https://code.google.com/archive/p/crypto-js/


That being said, what do you want to achieve?
1759  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin even work in our current system? on: October 13, 2018, 04:47:42 PM
Pretend that all the fiat money in the world is gone and the whole world is only using Bitcoin.  Ignore scalability issues for this scenario.

I'm sure most of you know that most money is actually created by banks through fractional reserve lending.  Our economy is stimulated by people constantly taking out loans to make purchases.  But with bitcoin you can't loan money that doesn't exist.  Maybe we would have to change our consumerism as a society and prices would drop.  Being able to borrow money easily makes everything rise in price.   What are your thoughts?

It's bigger than that.

Our economy is not merely stimulated by people buying on credit. It is built upon companies being able to take credit to invest in future developments. As such I don't think an economy where there would be only Bitcoin would flourish.

For as much flak as fiat gets, it did enable economic growth in a previously unprecedented way. As such I think we won't be able to operate without it all that easily, unless we find an economic model that does not rely on wealth generation by borrowing money from the future.
1760  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Private Key Sharding, How is it Secure in a Distributed Network? on: October 13, 2018, 04:37:06 PM
Thought I posted this but Fusion is taking a look at doing just so, also StorJ does the same thing shards are encrypted before being sent to the Network so in technicallity shards can be encrypted even though StorJ does not do this using Private Keys.

AFAIK in the case of StorJ the encrypted content is sharded, not the private keys themselves.


Come to think of it, let's check the whitepaper:

Files should be encrypted client-side before being sharded. The reference implementation uses AES256-CTR, but convergent encryption or any other desirable system could be implemented. This protects the content of the data from the storage provider, or farmer, housing the data. The data owner retains complete control over the encryption key, and thus over access to the data.

So yes, the private key stays with the content owner and should not touch the network. The content is encrypted before being published on the network, after which the network takes care of sharding the (encrypted) data.
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