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2361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A Better Coin on: December 31, 2012, 04:32:54 PM
Did this happen? hmm? No, we do not need a better coin.
Random thread necro...

Anyway, it did not happen because I do not have the capabilities to make it happen, and no one else seemed interested in making it happen.  If I had the capabilities, I would have most certainly made it happen.  Wink
2362  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [PHP] Generate a sendmany with multiple outputs to the same address on: December 31, 2012, 04:30:22 PM
Yeah, it's a bummer that you cannot specify the same address twice - I once suffered from this as well, but a workaround was fairly simple, especially in PHP.

A bigger issue I've had with sendmany is that the command requires the "<fromaccount>" parameter and you cannot just say to it like "whatever account"...
So the way I use my client, having coins spread across several "accounts" (which I personally only use to label addresses), then it seems like someone had made this parameter mandatory just to piss me off... Wink
What was the workaround?
2363  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: NEW info. It appears that BFL are the biggest liars! on: December 29, 2012, 10:25:28 PM
Why in the world is this thread in Other --> Newbies?
2364  Economy / Economics / Re: A really tough question on: December 29, 2012, 07:40:49 AM
. . . I don't get it... the X axis of that graph is by president, not by time . . .

http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/

Quote
The United States Mint is honoring our Nation's Presidents by issuing $1 coins featuring their images in the order they served in office.  The United States Mint issues four Presidential $1 Coins each year.
Emphasis added by me.
Got it, thanks!
2365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [PHP] Generate a sendmany with multiple outputs to the same address on: December 28, 2012, 09:47:46 PM
The bitcoind sendmany RPC call uses destination addresses as JSON Object keys, so you can't send to the same address multiple times in one transaction.

If you REALLY want to do that... first, why do you want to do that? I suppose if you want to use the blockchain as a messaging system then sending 0.123+0.567+etc might be an inefficient way of sending a message... but please don't do that.

Anyway, if you do REALLY want to do that, you'll have to write code to construct the transaction yourself. Then you could pass it to the signrawtransaction/sendrawtransaction RPC methods to broadcast it.  (you can't use createrawtransaction to create it, because it uses the same JSON syntax as sendmany for destination outputs).
Interesting, thanks for the response Gavin.  At the very least, blockchain.info has written the necessary code, and potentially, whoever it was that sent me a binary message earlier on in the year may have also programmed their own code for it.

At least this answers my question of whether it was a bitcoind issue or not.  Now I know that no bitcoind-based solution will accomplish this.  Perhaps time to learn the blockchain.info API, then.  Wink

Why do you say "but please don't do that"?  Blockchain bloat?
2366  Economy / Economics / Re: A really tough question on: December 28, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
Hey there!

Step away from the tinfoil hat!


Doesn't look increasing to me. Also look up the rest of the wikipedia entry.
I don't get it... the X axis of that graph is by president, not by time.  It is irrelevant to the discussion of number of coins produced over time.

Anyway, pennies are nearly useless to people now, because they are worth so little.  Larger coins, like dollars and quarters, are more useful.  Hence the reason they (may) phase out the penny in the future, while maintaining or increasing the production of dollar coins.
2367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New Bitcoin ODP (Open Directory Project) Editor on: December 28, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
That site looks awful.  It looks like a cybersquatting placeholder.  Are there any plans by the site owner to update the visuals?  How many people actually use ODP?
2368  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In the gun debate who do you think is the most stupid? on: December 28, 2012, 04:47:00 PM

The debate should be about what makes the US such an intrinsically unsafe and fear ridden society, and how that could be alleviated.

http://cogitansiuvenis.blogspot.com/2012/07/is-america-really-more-violent-than.html

Taken as a whole, the United States is safer than Europe.  Although this article doesn't touch it, this is also true for murder unless you are someone who has first hand contact with criminal elements, as roughly 80% of murders in this country can still be connected to people with a prior criminal history; and that stat is actually much lower in Europe.  (I admit, I do not have access to those stats right now)  This is not to say this is acceptable, since many of those people are simply drug addicts or family members and not otherwise inclined toward criminal activity themselves, but it does put the murder rate into perspective.  Furthermore, as is true in Europe, some individual states (and particular cities) are safer than others.  Generally speaking, those US states with lower crime rates also have lower legal barriers for a citizen to obtain a firearms license.  This may not be cause & effect, admittedly, as states with higher crime rates might be more inclined to pass weapons restrictions as a result.  However, in every case wherein gun laws were relaxed for the law abiding, crime rates have decreased.  There is one city in Georgia that famously passed a law compelling all households to buy and keep a weapon, due to a very high local crime rate in 1982.  That law is still in effect, and that city has the lowest crime rate in Georgia today.

I live in Australia and feel safe. We have twice as many assaults but only one-fifth the murders that occur in the US. Our fights tend to be non-lethal.

Regardless, why is it that so many Americans feel unsafe? If you read the "gun control" threads, you'd think all US citizens were under constant threat of annihilation from their fellow citizens or their government. If the average law abiding US citizen is as safe as I am, why don't they think they are?
Where do you get the idea that Americans feel unsafe?  I feel much safer than I would if I lived in a country where I was not allowed to own a gun.

Sure. But if you didn't own a gun, you wouldn't feel safe. That's what that comes to mind when I read many posts.

This is the point I suppose, and I'll be the first to admit it's not a very good one. I'm not attempting to prove anything, I just want more (sensible) explanations of how you think about your freedoms, guns and so forth.
Na, I'd still feel plenty safe without a gun as well.  The stats MoonShadow has posted (and admittedly not verified) above only further prove my point, assuming their validity: criminals with guns generally leave the average US citizen alone moreso that criminals in other countries (who know that those average citizens do not carry weaponry).  So, I feel safer in the knowledge that a criminal might think that I have a gun, even if I do not, and will leave me alone for that reason.
2369  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Right to endanger? on: December 28, 2012, 04:40:26 PM
I only want the speed limits to be higher or revoked because I enjoy driving spiritedly.  Wink
2370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In the gun debate who do you think is the most stupid? on: December 28, 2012, 04:22:41 PM

The debate should be about what makes the US such an intrinsically unsafe and fear ridden society, and how that could be alleviated.

http://cogitansiuvenis.blogspot.com/2012/07/is-america-really-more-violent-than.html

Taken as a whole, the United States is safer than Europe.  Although this article doesn't touch it, this is also true for murder unless you are someone who has first hand contact with criminal elements, as roughly 80% of murders in this country can still be connected to people with a prior criminal history; and that stat is actually much lower in Europe.  (I admit, I do not have access to those stats right now)  This is not to say this is acceptable, since many of those people are simply drug addicts or family members and not otherwise inclined toward criminal activity themselves, but it does put the murder rate into perspective.  Furthermore, as is true in Europe, some individual states (and particular cities) are safer than others.  Generally speaking, those US states with lower crime rates also have lower legal barriers for a citizen to obtain a firearms license.  This may not be cause & effect, admittedly, as states with higher crime rates might be more inclined to pass weapons restrictions as a result.  However, in every case wherein gun laws were relaxed for the law abiding, crime rates have decreased.  There is one city in Georgia that famously passed a law compelling all households to buy and keep a weapon, due to a very high local crime rate in 1982.  That law is still in effect, and that city has the lowest crime rate in Georgia today.

I live in Australia and feel safe. We have twice as many assaults but only one-fifth the murders that occur in the US. Our fights tend to be non-lethal.

Regardless, why is it that so many Americans feel unsafe? If you read the "gun control" threads, you'd think all US citizens were under constant threat of annihilation from their fellow citizens or their government. If the average law abiding US citizen is as safe as I am, why don't they think they are?
Where do you get the idea that Americans feel unsafe?  I feel much safer than I would if I lived in a country where I was not allowed to own a gun.
2371  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2nd batch of butterfly,btcfgpa,avalon &co will make NO PROFIT and loss their $ on: December 27, 2012, 11:52:50 PM
0.69 BTC or 128LTC

128 LTC is happy user days

Perception is everything in life and 128 LTC is more than .069 BTC any day of the week Cheesy

Your calculations are wrong again. 0.069 BTC = 12.28 LTC

Anyway, if that's the case, I'll give you 69 mBTC for your 12.28 LTC.  It's a higher amount, it must be better!!  Or wait, I could give you 69,000 uBTC!  That'd be just grand, wouldn't it??

 Roll Eyes
2372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Notice: Bitcoincentral.com on: December 27, 2012, 06:08:48 PM
I see both sides, but honestly, it was a dick move to sell the domain to anyone but Bitcoin Central.  You KNOW it will be used for phishing.  You KNOW some Bitcoin users will be scammed by this.  And yet you do it anyway, all for a thousand bucks.  Hope you're happy with it and can still sleep at night, anyway...
Too bad karma can't pay your bills, right? Smiley
True.  Guess I should go out and rob a bank then.
2373  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2nd batch of butterfly,btcfgpa,avalon &co will make NO PROFIT and loss their $ on: December 27, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
BTC is no good when a user gets .0003 of a BTC whereas LTC is cool for LTC $35 equals ~$2.25 US which is what u would give away on an transaction via a rewards system
Why do you say this?  Why is BTC no good when a user gets 0.0003 of it?  I'd rather have 0.0003 of a currency that everyone uses than 0.03 of a currency very few use, given that they are worth the same amount.  You can't count on those sorts of psychological disadvantages to apply to everyone, or even the majority.

You underesitmate Users as they do not understand .0003 of a point/BTC/$/Euro

It equates to feeling ripped off or under valued for this transaction ...is a double edged sword of BTC becoming to valued commonodity

How does it feel to earn $35 LTC or 0.0003 BTC ..as an marketing exercise i will take $35 LTC Cheesy

Remember that 99.5 % of users have never heard of BTC/LTC/NMC etc so dont understand or care about the story/mechanics of the currency

So in a way the low value of LTC is to its benifit Cheesy ....lol

As an outsider BTC\LTC is religious in the same vain as JAVA\.NET ...a user is totally diosconnected from this world (thank god/jesus/satan) and $35 LTC definately sounds better than 0.003 BTC..Cheesy
Don't use the dollar sign when speaking of LTC.  I thought you meant $35 worth of LTC, hence my confusion.  Just say "35 LTC".

Anyway, I disagree with you.  It is a small change of mindset is all.  If 0.0003 BTC can buy the same apple that 35 LTC can buy, then no one will be feeling ripped off.  And Bitcoin clients can always be changed to show mBTC or uBTC, etc.  It doesn't change the backend, the number of coins, or the protocol - it only changes the way that information is displayed to the user.  If 0.0003 BTC truly became worth a significant amount, then clients would change to display the BTC in a different manner so that we do not have to deal with small decimals all the time.

LTC are almost worthless coins right now.  Who wants 35 LTC when it is such a small amount, it cannot buy anything?  To me, THAT would feel more like a ripoff!  35 is an amount that sounds like it can buy something, and when I find out it cannot, I would feel ripped off.

Also, I am not sure where you even get 35 LTC = 0.0003 BTC.  0.0003 BTC = only 0.0534 LTC at current exchange rates.
2374  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In the gun debate who do you think is the most stupid? on: December 27, 2012, 04:55:31 PM
You make a fair point actually, it's not just political elite though, they're just simply pawning off responsibility to soldiers and police officers, I always wondered why they didn't make any mention of that.
...whom they control.

I couldn't care less about the stats myself.  The second amendment of the constitution is all I need.  Wink  I'm all for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals as much as we can, but the right to bear arms is just that - a right.
2375  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Notice: Bitcoincentral.com on: December 27, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
How would you have "held me over the coals" ?

I'm saying $1000 is a rip-off (as in overpriced, not as in scam) when there's already a website and a brand that exist and that it can reasonably assumed that the use that will be made of it will be phishing. My words might have been a little strong, but I still consider that a form of cyber-squatting, which is perfectly legal, but not very respectable IMO.

Actually if you are going to rebrand then I guess I couldn't of. Not like I would of in the first place, but many domain owners demand unreasonable sums of money for domains names, especially of established brands.

If you think $1000 for this name is unreasonable then you should have countered in my email. I would have accepted $850 since that's all I got after Sedo's ridiculous 15% fee.

I think $1000 would have been a good investment if it was only to protect your customers from potential phishing.

It is cyber-squatting which I dislike. Hence my attempts to sell to the brand owner who deserves the domain since I didn't use it.
I see both sides, but honestly, it was a dick move to sell the domain to anyone but Bitcoin Central.  You KNOW it will be used for phishing.  You KNOW some Bitcoin users will be scammed by this.  And yet you do it anyway, all for a thousand bucks.  Hope you're happy with it and can still sleep at night, anyway...
2376  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2nd batch of butterfly,btcfgpa,avalon &co will make NO PROFIT and loss their $ on: December 27, 2012, 04:46:02 PM
BTC is no good when a user gets .0003 of a BTC whereas LTC is cool for LTC $35 equals ~$2.25 US which is what u would give away on an transaction via a rewards system
Why do you say this?  Why is BTC no good when a user gets 0.0003 of it?  I'd rather have 0.0003 of a currency that everyone uses than 0.03 of a currency very few use, given that they are worth the same amount.  You can't count on those sorts of psychological disadvantages to apply to everyone, or even the majority.
2377  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Notice: Bitcoincentral.com on: December 27, 2012, 09:36:42 AM
so we can expect a phishing site at that adress real soon now?
I'd say, precisely.
2378  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL SC Pre-Order Information on: December 27, 2012, 09:33:33 AM
Has this list been updated continuously? It seems odd that only 50TH is what's reported. Especially with people freaking out about difficulty skyrocketing. Even if this is only 25% of their orders, difficulty would only increase 10x from BFL. If this were closer to 1%, we'd be in for a seriously high spike.
It has been confirmed by BFL that preorders as of a few weeks ago (or a couple months?) would be less than 150TH/s.  How much less is unknown, but I do not expect to see total network hashpower beyond 300 TH/s after all current preorders are shipped.
2379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - Importing Private Keys in Satoshi Client. on: December 27, 2012, 12:30:09 AM
I think a GUI for importing private keys is seriously needed in bitcoin-qt. The use cases where people have a private key in their hands that they want to import just keep growing.

It is frustrating how simple things like import/export keys which would allow people to actually use Bitcoins takes forever to be implemented/included in the mainline. I agree with the direction of the core devs (re network protocol/security/stability) but one person needs to sidebar on this usability issue.

After we have that then the more complex work for a sweep RPC and GUI should be implemented.

+ a thousand.
2380  Other / Off-topic / BFL's ASIC on: December 26, 2012, 08:49:38 AM
Since DiabloD3 (AKA, the mod with an agenda) decided to lock down the only BFL thread we are allowed to speak in, I started another.

I am still confident BFL will be the first to deliver, personally.
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