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2381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Flip or Trade? What’s The Bigger Gamble? on: October 03, 2023, 11:48:57 PM

Day trading & gambling do have similar features. Short term investing in blockchain does trump both of the latter I believe.
Indeed I will agree with you on this because short term trading is way risky as same as gambling and believe me I have had a taste of both and the results that yeilded from both fields are the particular ones am not too proud of and I wouldn't ever advice anyone who is not an expert in trading to ever even venture into it. It's more preferable to just buy little coins and save and hope for the market to boom once more
The tin line between gambling and trading is that,  in gambling, you tend to depend heavily on your lick to win the games in most cases,  but that is not so in trading most especially in crypto trading where you have to analyze the market and make use of a lot of trading tools to determine what the best position open your trade and the right leverage to use in doing so,  this key difference has set the boundary between trading and gambling.

And even though we have a few gambling games like poker that requires some level of skills,  it still boils down to one single fact that gambling outcome still rely heavily on luck and trading rather than trying lore on the skills of the trader. M
2382  Economy / Speculation / Re: The time has finally come...??? on: October 03, 2023, 11:26:13 PM
The next bitcoin bull run price can not be speculated at this point unless the bull run started already because the most speculated price of $100,000 can still be Bitcoin currection price and at that we have to look beyond every possible speculative price and anticipate for a price that is imaginable to a achieve,  such as possible $150k or $200k Bitcoin price during the bull market.

This are price that can raise the real dust,  even though some other speculators can go out of the box to predict a possible price of $500k which could sound out of this world with the current bitcoin liquidities.
2383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What will be the next narratives in the next crypto bull market? on: October 03, 2023, 11:19:18 PM
I think all the offer mentioned are all trends that have ended already and don't have any significant impact on the price that can make them to become the face of the future bull market and so on,  although there is speculation around the bitcoin ETF to be the next bull market trigger,  a lot of speculators have pointed to it being the reason that regulators are pushing this event forward each time,  but ultimately there is no way that this can be denied and at such in the right time the government is going to allow this to happen any which ways.

At that point, we can then see what becomes the reality of the market since a lot of us have waited to see that event taking place since the bitcoin ETF is going to bring a paradoxical shift to the market in the long run.
2384  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Differences between bitcoin trading and forex trading on: October 03, 2023, 11:08:57 PM
@Gozie51
Bitcoin is very volatile than United States dollar and pounds sterling, but in long term, the volatility is in the uptrend direction. So if you hold bitcoin, we all know that you will gain more than if you hold dollar or sterling. Also bitcoin is still volatile than gold. I think one of the reasons is that the marketcap of gold is far higher. But anyone that complain of the volatility, bitcoin is more volatile and better in RoI than any of them. But as the marketcap of bitcoin is increasing, the volatility is also reducing.
I agree with what Charles is saying in terms of the rate of volatility between Bitcoin and fiat currencies like the dollar or pounds,  but then also I won't pay a deaf ear to the possibility of what fiat currency such as the Nigerian naira which has exhibited a high feature of volatilities in the last couple of months,  year's back,  but then if we talk of more stable fiat currencies such as the USDT we will know that Bitcoin is higher in volutlities compared to those currencies.

But we have to also have it at the back of our mind of the many possibilities that are embedded in the volatilities in the price of assets that are in the Bitcoin categories which makes them the best choice against other stable currencies like the United States dollar.
2385  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Tirement/Retirement (old age) food for thoughts on: October 03, 2023, 10:54:24 PM

Na so I see am because somethings too no be on how you get strength reach or how you fit take plan or work but to work smart and pray say make God shine his light, increase and favour us.
You talk the always give me joy,  e show say you be indeed experience manchi and I rank you, maximum senior man,  as e, be,  a lot of things the involved for this future matters and e cone be like say make we just forget to the think of the future but to work hard for today since we only have the present and not guarantee the future and since the present is the foundation for the future I think today is the best time to prepare for the future unknown.

What a sarcastic life we are living,  but then the best possible way to secure your future is to get a spouse that you can spend your old age with and try to build a family with and around them,  because in old age,  only you and your wife or husband your kids will be gone to start they own life and also will only support you in finances and nothing more.
2386  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Too much pressure on the male child on: October 03, 2023, 10:43:05 PM
This is not limited to Africa, and I believe it happens throughout the world. Expectations from a male child are excessive, and when they become unbearable, they engage in unlawful acts or do anything possible to get favour and be appreciated in society more than others.
It is also crucial to understand that the increased expectations placed on the male child causes them to work harder in order to provide for themselves and those who are most important to them. It is acceptable to urge a male child to seek a source of wealth, but not at the risk of pushing them beyond certain bounds that will have an impact on their future.
They put too much pressure on men, yet by nature even in the Stone Age, when males were expected to hunt and farm—guys are meant to provide at any costs. But even at that there is time for everything there is particularly time for everything is not even a do or die affair And because of the high expectations placed on male children in our society today, young male children are under a lot of pressure to follow the latest fashions. Fraud is growing every day, whether it be through wearables or phones. When you clock a certain age as a male your responsibility will increase and when it comes to that you need to work harder.
This pressure have activated both the bad and good aspect of the male child,  because of the level of responsibility and risk exposure of the male child a lot of things are activated in the ops and at that I we have to point out both the good and the bad aspect of this,  there is no doubt that there have been increase in the level of crime in the society but that is not peculiar to only the male child alone even the female child are also getting into crime also,  because the last robbery attack on a commercial bank in my area was carried out by female gang.

But then the male child should accept this responsibility of being the one to provide for the family in terms of financial supplies,  but then also we must train all our children to be self sufficient in their ways to be able to atay ahead of the time when the need be because the world is becoming a survival of the fittest so we need to build the survival quality in all our children's.
2387  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: October 03, 2023, 10:30:45 PM

For sure there are people who do make use of fake documents just to pass up that KYC but if there would really be some further requirements on which it would really be correlating
on such information then for sure you wont really be able to get out with it and you would really be busted on which means that it would really be
resulting into total confiscation with those funds and there's nothing we can do about that as a violator. Its our mistake.
I agree with you on this,  and I am sure that majority of the other members of this forum who may not have used fake documents because I don't see any use of using fake documents to verify your account when you don't have the intention to abuse the casino,  this is what most casinos are up against,  because their aware of this possibilities so at such they make out modalities that will protect the interest pf the platform,  so if a gambler used a fake documents to verify,  at the long run he will still fall into problems that will ultimately expose him along the line.
2388  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 03, 2023, 10:26:08 PM

Contradicting indeed,but all the complaints of the accuser I think has been actually counter with the screenshot  provided by the OP and I think these stories of users getting their account is actually not a new thing anymore here in the forum and the most annoying part is that most of these so called accuser don't actually provide enough proofs to what they are actually try to claim and we all know how thats makes you look as a complainer. As you are trying to stand on a claim proofs is actually what gives you an edge over such cases because most casino tend to blame the players always where whereas most times latter is the case.
I saw their signature campaign today and I was happy that the casino is already making attempts to established its presence here in the forum,  this is a great way to start and a new casino because in this way you are already letting potential clients know that you have a presence here in the forum,  and one other thing I like to suggest to the ops os that,  you guys should try as much as possible to maintain the current momentum in your response here on the ANN thread because this goes a long way to speak positive or negative of the casino here in the forum.

In the coming days, you may likely get some tough questions from users who may like to get updates on the operational guidelines of the casino and how best they understand it.
2389  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading purely based on luck. on: October 03, 2023, 10:20:07 PM
Trading may be similar to gambling in some ways but the two are different from each other and I can tell you that while gambling is based on luck,  trading on the other hand is based on skills because in trading,  it is the skills of the trader that determine his total profits since he will be trading against other traders who are humans like him.

Unlike in gambling where it will be the gambler against the house and already there is a set house edge that places the interest of the casino against that of the gamblers and that has resulted in several house advantages against the gambler.
2390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: October 03, 2023, 09:45:11 PM

Realization do always come at the end and this had been always the case on which it would really be just common scenario and this is the only time that people woudl really be making some lesson learned moment but

the fact that we could really avoid things without necessarily comes into this kind of situation then you should have done this earlier or before that shit scenario happens. You wont really be that so dumb on not to notice
that you are already derailing yourself on proper management with your funds. On the time  that you are seeing that you are already that spending tons or losing that much money then whats the point
on trying out to continue? Chasing losses? Breaking even? Or hoping for some one last big win to tie up everything and ending up on profits?

As long you would really be having that kind of intent in mind then you cant really make yourself be able to stop even if your mind would be telling you. As long emotions been stirred up
and as long that mindset is fixed on making profits or money with gambling.Then it would really be that just so impossible that you would really be that be able
to stop and you would really be just simply waiting for your demise.
When it comes to gambling,  the shit is always put at your face before you could realize that you have gone to deep into the whole mess and at the time you as a gambler hard make up your mind to escape the scenario,  you are already deep in the mess and that is the worst feelings ever and the reason for many gamblers complaining about their uncontrolled loses which sometime happens to them too fast and you can't blame them..

Some time the joy of being in the lead in games can also make you build up some level of confidence that mayake you think that you will continue in that winning stride and before you know you you'd have gone overboard to have exusted all that you intend to walk away with.
2391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: October 03, 2023, 09:29:40 PM
For those that have not experimented this it may seem difficult to believe, but quitting when you are ahead is not easy at all, it requires a great deal of discipline and self-control to win a substantial amount of money and decide all of a sudden to stop gambling and then do something else, as winning can be intoxicating and after winning a lot of money what people want more than anything is to win even more, after all if they have been so lucky so far they may actually try to keep this trend going, but eventually your luck disappears and you cannot help to think that it would have been a better idea to quit early, but at that time it is too late to do anything to change your decision to keep gambling.
I have experienced this a couple of time before where I am left with the choice to either keep playing or just quit and walk away with my already won amount,  sometimes,  since I have a limit time set for how far I gamble a day it makes me want to be tempted to go more further at some point,  this is because maybe when my time expired,  I could be in the middle of a games session that I am already leading and that makes me want to stay on.

In some cases, the bets will already have a heavy cash-out amount that I can easily walk away with but I choose to remain till the end of the match to have my full payment but ultimately lose all in such attempts.
2392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Ever Made Such Mistake Before, But Won still? on: October 03, 2023, 09:05:14 PM
So by this experience, I am moved to ask you guys if any one of you have ever made such a mistake, but it turned out in your favor? Please share with us.

Some mistakes can be fatal while others can turn out to be a blessing.  But it is better to avoid such mistakes because the consequences might not be pleasant. I have never made such a mistake before due to the fact that I always check the amount I imputed carefully before clicking. I have made such mistake when I bought more products than I budgeted. I was fortunate that the price increased and I sold my products and made a higher profit. But I would like to make this kind of mistake you made. This is a lucky mistake that brought good fortune. Congratulations.
In most cases as this,  is when the gamblers balance reduced significantly after a bet lose that you discover that you have made an input mistake just as you rightly said,  some of such mistakes can be fatal while others could breed a lucky grand by giving the gambler an unexpected rewards just like in the ops own situation,  I believe that today was just his lucky day and the casino just decide to reward his previous losses with a double gains.

But frankly speaking ops should be more careful next time to avoid any other possible future mistakes because may be at that point,  his regret may be bad if he does lose a significant amount due to an error such as this.
2393  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: October 03, 2023, 08:41:37 PM
I was wondering who i could contact either here or on telegram/discord about VIP? I have 45 million wagered on stake and 20 million wagered on bc and im looking gor a new sportsbook but want to make sure im treated correctly, i contacted support but they brushed me off
For as far as I know,  you best shot will be to read the terms and conditions of the shufles platform and also you can contact their support for any further information and also Make sure you engage the representative here with up-to-date questions,  if you have with the site and get familiar with the casino you can then make efforts to contact them on telegram chat that is if there is need for such communications if everything work out we'll.

But to some extent,  there haven't been any negative reports against this casino at least none that I can point to personally although I have not played in this casino to know exactly how they react and treat customers' funds and how their bonuses system works.
2394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Before you take sides on: October 03, 2023, 08:18:06 PM
but I think some of the gamblers' opinions could be right, I mean the casinos feel they are strong and the words of an unclear gambler will not be listened to by other people.
unless the player who comes is a rich person who has the effect and power to say that.
I'll tell you one thing, if you are RIGHT but you don't have relationships and power then you can easily be said to be WRONG by those who have these things.
It depends on the level of the evidence present by the gambler to make their words right and validate and true accusations against the casino, that is why is very important to keep evidence of your activities at the casino at all times since the casino will definitely lock the account out once the hard a case against them.

That is why gamblers are expected to be proactive in their approach to things as they deal with the casino,  it is fair enough to keep screenshots and other possible evidence in case of rainy days like this so that the gambler can have evidence to fall back to in pursuing their case with casinos.
2395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which games offer the best chance of a big win? on: October 03, 2023, 08:12:39 PM
Which on is crypto game?

I see all games to bring winning, the chance in the casino games are proportional to their odd. The higher the chance the lower the odd while the lower the chance the higher the odd. It is left for you which one that you prefer.

If it is sport, you have lower odds. Casinos are better I am posting about casinos alone just as it is in your question.

I also would say it depends on the odds and the risk taken in terms of how much used to stake on it. Like you said in sports games, so in lower odds games, the gambler goes on to place a higher stake on it if he feels the game will turn out to favour him  And so if a game that doesn't have the winning advantage, the gambler doesn't risk much on it  Therefore, it depends on some factors like the odds and how much stake placed on the bet.
Since the total amount of winning is equal in proportion to the amount of odds accumulated and the amount used to stake the bet,  if your luck is on the high side football betting seems to give such possible rewards in most cases since it games can easily be analyzed and sometime book marker tries to play smart one by giving out obvious odds that could give any smart bettor a chance to get lucky and win big depending on the level of risk the gambler can take.

But I have seen someone who won almost 21 million in my local currency before but he used close to two hundred thousand of my country's currency to stake the bet,  so the bigger the risk the bigger the rewards and the losses also,  it all depends.
2396  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bc.game not honouring deposit bonus on: October 03, 2023, 08:04:43 PM

But if his deposits are subject to the bonus conditions which is wagering before withdrawal that means the casino is out to play games with the ops and that should be seen as a big red alert to others.

If casino stated somewhere in the bonus conditions like to wager before the bonus can be activated for withdrawal depending on how many times to wager then whoever is entering for such should be aware of such conditions.

I'm only reacting based on if there are conditions to the bonus yet to be met.

I think either some one else having same issue can corroborate op's challenge or the team response. I have seen op has also made a post on their ANN. Hopefully, it will be resolved for him.
Well let see if they representative get something to respond to in the coming days because everyone os now looking on them to her they own side pf the story since it clear that the ops have some case to establish against the casino and if the have hard the deposit bous there by error the best possible way is to have it fixed and make a public apology to the ops and anyone else who may have been mislead by that big.

And also make a refund for them at all costs if they have lost their money in the process,  and should be able to allow them to withdraw the balance without any conditions.
2397  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Too much pressure on the male child on: October 03, 2023, 07:54:30 PM

I understand your point and that is appropriate but the last of your statement of abuse on the child, it doesn't constitute an abuse if the child is made to be responsible. It is a role that has naturally come on the shoulder of a man to take care of a family. Although the government has a lot to do to help support the male child because most of the earlier opportunities have been given to the female gender and they are having more access to jobs etc.
Yes although even though is the responsibility pf the family to bring up their child in the most possible responsible manner it very important also for the casinos to have rules in place that will protect the underage children who may want to try gambling for the first time,  this kind of cases mostly happens in sport betting and since most other casino games are not popular in most of the world unless online so fhs child could easily gamble without anyone knowing within the family and at that stage could easily escape the family guidance.

So the casino should be the one to ask the lad for verification if it is a centralized licensed casino,  but if not then the case is going to result in so many other factors of during the investigation.
2398  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 03, 2023, 07:41:26 PM
People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...
OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.
Comments like this are expected either their be true or false bit the ultimate thing is that if the accuser have any proof to back the claim he should post them already but from the look of things,  the guy is just trying to cause some crisis in this thread unless he comes up with more evidence that his profits were all withdrawn as he said.

I had a run through the casino and I discovered that their sports bet section is not fully developed and is still under construction but this user mentioned that he won all the profits in sports bets so that is contradicting information that points us in a different direction.
2399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will the Gambling Sportybet (Company) Refund the Money? on: October 03, 2023, 07:24:17 PM
In the gambling platform, there are different stories every day across the world. This 16 years Nigerian citizen used his school fees to play bet and was planning to win big amount so he can use it to solve other problems but along the line he loss everything and he went to the contact of the company and begged them to refund the money back to him because it is his school fees. Is it possible for the company to refund the money to the boy? As for me it is not possible because the played the game and loss. And also the boy was too small to gamble because gambling is meant for mature mind because you have you to face things like and when you loss, you have to move on. And these are some the reasons why casinos always specifying that before you play gamble, you must be above 18 years plus  that is in short form 18+ and some people and sportsbooks ignore this warning and this is one off the result. Click the picture for more information.
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No, that boy would be facing up the consequences on what he had done because if he do make those amounts to win then for sure he wont really be making some complaints but rather he would play more.  Cheesy


The best form of resolution for the boy right now is to open up to his parents about his mistakes and predicament and face the possible punishment for the sin committed because his parent will be the only one that can give him another school fee to avoid dropping out of school due to lack of payment of fees,  but bringing the issues to the public instead of handling it within the family may seems a little bit of wrong move to me since who knows his parents may get the information from the news before he thinks of telling them.

Unless the image shared in the ops is not the real image of the student of it is then I will say that he has sold out his privacy and that can increase his risk of getting help,  but looking at the situation of things I don't think the casino will make any form of refund to the ops.
2400  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: October 03, 2023, 04:11:25 PM
is there a Stake.com representative covering this thread that I can contact privately in regards to an ongoing KYC issue with my account?
You have gotten your answer from ryzaadit, there are indeed stake representatives whom you can contact on this forum ranging from their signature campaign managers to the manager of this community, but like you've been told, no body will likely respond to you if your case is just all about having issues with kyc, it's better and even more convenient for you to contact them through their website, they respond pretty quick, so i personally see no reason why you should not prefer reaching out to them there  instead of here.
Yeah when it comes to the issue of KYC you best possible bet is to contact the support on the site and if possible get in touch with the security and verification team to let them know you case and how possible to handle it,  although I don't know the nature of your kyc and what level you have reach and what the problem is but I am sure if you have everything cleared from your side,  I am sure it will only take the team few hours to get your account verified.

I never had any issues with KYC on the stake before and I used VPN to register or access the site at any time,  so I am sure if your activities on the site are fair and clean then you should get a positive response from the team If you contact them directly.
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