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2381  Other / Meta / Re: A Little more information about merits on: February 14, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Thing is, I barely see any merits being given around, especially to new users, except in specific threads where OGs are active.

Maybe there should be a mechanism where members who can't give merits yet are able to "like" or "recommend" certain quality posts so that it can be reviewed for merit? Members identifying quality posts meanwhile could also be rewarded with merits? Otherwise I feel that it will only reward those who post in more popular threads, while more obscure ones get ignored regardless of the content's usefulness/quality.

I think this is a good suggestion.. it would be nice for new users for maybe each merit received could suggest or tag an equal amount of posts to be considered for merits.. I'm not really sure what the forum limitations allow and limit, so this may not even be technically possible.  I'd be curious to know what the overall merit supply is and how exactly that number is determined and distributed with the specifics.. if anyone has this info or its been posted before, please share it.

The monthly merit supply has been posted just a few replies above:

Also worth to note that anyone can apply to become a merit source and that there is limited amount of sMerits issued, currently up to 11975 sMerit per 30 days.

I figure given the relative newness of the system there's still a lot of tweaking to be done. The amount of sMerits distributed amongst merit sources on one hand and the social etiquette on what to merit on the other (do we treat it as a like? or should it be reserved for more special situations?).

Right now it's too early to tell, but I guess a proper code of conduct will emerge over the course of the next few months. While imperfect I definitely see it as an improvement for filtering out which posts are worth reading and which ones can be skipped.
2382  Other / Meta / Re: A Little more information about merits on: February 14, 2018, 04:04:16 PM
Hi guys, I just came up to this conclusion. As we all knew, according to our ranks we only got a limited amount of merits to be given away. How if all of us ran out of merit points to give? I'm just a little curios what will happen. I haven't read any threads about this topic.

Some of the more trusted senior members act as merit sources, ie. they receive part of a monthly pot of sendable merits to distribute amongst posts they deem constructive. In other words, there's a steady inflow of new sendable merits coming in.

See here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0
2383  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goodbye Bitcoin Hello Blockchain on: February 14, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
So in your opinion, what are the use cases of a blockchain without a cryptocurrency incentivizing securing the network? Under these circumstances, what benefits does a blockchain provide as opposed to a more traditional database solution?
2384  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bad Code Has Lost $500M of Cryptocurrency in Under a Year on: February 14, 2018, 11:02:35 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with you.  I couldn't believe that there was apparently a client-side JavaScript exploit on that Bitgrail exchange, where that was the only check it had to verifying an accounts balance!?!  Seriously, code that runs in someone's web browser, wtf?  That type of foolishness wouldn't make the cut for a web game, to say nothing of financial transactions of real value.

It seems like both developers and investors tend to forget that they are handling real, actual money. Would you leave a suitcase full of cash in the middle of the street? Would you give your credit card data to some random stranger on the internet? That's what basically happens in crypto all the time.


In my view, best-practices standards are needed for security and code audits.  There are many attempts at this out there, it needs to be pulled together, structured and maintained like RFC or BIP standards are, and proliferated through the field.  Especially considering we are dealing with a rapidly evolving technology, these standards need to be maintained on an ongoing basis.  I know the steps I take to lock down a server today in 2018 are different in quite a few ways than they were in 2014, for example.

I absolutely agree with you. As much as I love that whole wild west, new frontier vibe that crypto is swinging, I so very much appreciate the formal approach that Bitcoin and some of the alts have taken.

To be fair, handling crypto is especially tricky. Holding what equates to actual cash on a computer system is unprecedented prior to cryptocurrencies. Even if you were handling payments there was usually some form of rollback available, should things go awry. Not so with crypto, yet it seems to be partially held to lower standards than finance which is insane.

Nonetheless we've come a long way since MtGox. It's almost as if the market has begun to realize that crypto is a billion dollar business now.


My organization is going to be looking at this issue because it's a real problem that needs some coordinated focus.  We're conducting our launch fundraiser right now with an Ethereum ERC20 token, but I have real concerns with the stability of that platform moving forward.  A deep dive is in order with some consultations with the gurus before I make any long-term decision I'll live to regret on platforms.  In some ways it's a shame, the Ethereum platform does seem good "on paper", but has some real flaws that need to be met before I would place the kind of trust in it that you do to a financial institution.

Hats off to you for critically evaluating technologies. I know this approach should be the standard, however it unfortunately isn't, which makes me all the more glad to hear that there are still organizations and companies out there that take a sane and prudent approach at blockchain techologies.


If a bank lost $500M in a year, people would be in jail!  (Well, maybe not here in the U.S., but only because the banks own our government [for now]).  But who would bank with a company that was so careless with funds it has custodial control over?

I don't think that European banks are much better in that regard.

Referring to "But who would bank with a company that was so careless with funds".... I honestly think that consumers are at least partially to blame on that matter. If people would avoid shoddy exchanges in the first place, a lot of these dramas could be avoided.

2385  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bad Code Has Lost $500M of Cryptocurrency in Under a Year on: February 13, 2018, 11:03:47 PM
A lot of good reasons to stick with Bitcoin, esp. Core and keep running full nodes and I also would trust smart contracts a lot more, if they would be based on the the Bitcoin blockchain than on any other shitchain.  In my opinion ALL of the > 1000 Alts are rather the result of missed financial/fame opportunities than a real technological progress.

Yeah, a lot of the stuff that I've seen happening with the alts (eg. IOTA and its self rolled crypto or that whole Parity debacle... twice) and some of the hardforks (eg. B2X's insta-death and the BCH difficulty fluctuations) during the last year made me really appreciate the way Core handles things. Sure, progress may seem slow, but it's slow for a reason. Stuff's done when it's done. You can't just move fast and hardfork things. I mean you can, obviously, but its not necessarily a development and design philosophy that I personally could get behind.

Same with turing complete smart contracts. It just seems like such. A bad. Idea. Regardless of the underlying blockchain.

Maybe with some improved tooling, rigorous testing and a solid development approach this could work, alas who has time for that when there's a marketing campaign for your upcoming ICO to be run?

I love watching the altcoin and token space, but for every good idea there's a metric shitton of wtfs going on. And those whitepapers. So much fluff, oh so much fluff. Jesus.
2386  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bad Code Has Lost $500M of Cryptocurrency in Under a Year on: February 13, 2018, 07:05:34 PM
Seeing how security and actual software engineering often comes as an afterthought, instead of serving as a fundamental requirement, it comes to very little surprise to be honest. I guess that's the downside of the comparably low entry level when it comes to developing crypto related software (as opposed to, say, traditional finance, military and aircraft applications).

Properly handling immutable, decentralized transactions is hard and mistakes are costly without recourse. Even moreso when it comes to smart contracts. It seems like a lot of companies and developers haven't yet fully fathomed the implications of what processing irreversible scripts and transactions really means.


I mean...

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“There was a bug on Bitgrail where if you placed two orders you got double balance added to your account. You could then withdraw while the orders were up and steal the coins. You had negative balance in the end but you could just make a new account.”

What the. Actual. Fuck. That would be bad enough in traditional finance or actually any online application that handles money. But in crypto such a bug becomes fatal.



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The cryptocurrency most commonly associated with catastrophic bugs is ethereum. That’s not due to its underlying code, but on account of the smart contracts that can be built on top of the ethereum framework.

Here's the next thing. Granted, if Solidity where more strict and rigorous its developer base would likely be much much smaller. Nonetheless I'd argue that such strictness would be required to allow somewhat reliable smart contracts. With Solidity it may not be a code issue, but it's definitely a design issue. I don't follow Ethereum all that much, so I might be missing parts of the big picture, but what I always ask myself is: If blockchain veterans such as the Ethereum development team is unable to design a sound smart contract platform, how can we expect blockchain rookies -- which is what most of us are, given how young crypto is -- to implement reliable smart contracts on that very same platform?

Sorry if this post comes off as ranty, I guess irresponsible code just kind of grinds my gears.
2387  Economy / Speculation / Re: what effect have the exchange registration closures had? on: February 13, 2018, 03:51:30 PM
[...]

I've had so many people ask me "How do you buy stock in Bitcoin?" and I just shake my head at them and tell them they shouldn't invest in something they don't understand.

So much this. "How do you buy Bitcoin?" is my least favourite question to be asked. If people ask me about hardware wallets or mining or what the fuck this whole cryptocurrency thing is about I'll gladly help out. But if the first question is on how to buy Bitcoin, you first need to learn to ask the real questions, my friend. I might just be a dick tho.

It's so weird. People either dismiss cryptocurrencies from the get-go or immediately want to throw money at it, no questions asked.
2388  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie here, bought bitcoin, what next? on: February 13, 2018, 02:47:03 PM
Okay...I understand. Better take it slow, I guess...Do you know any courses I can join, maybe?  Embarrassed

Andreas Antonopoulos supposedly has some very educative YouTube videos and books. I personally never read or watched any of his material, but he's fairly well respected within the community.

However your highest priority in the beginning should be learning how to secure your coins using cold storage, paper wallets or a hardware wallet -- alongside with why it is important to have access to your private keys and to securely store them.

I'd also recommend trying to understand Bitcoin first before looking into alts, otherwise you might miss some of the context on what challenges those alts try to solve that Bitcoin is facing as well. Also try to understand the tradeoffs of each respective approach.
2389  Economy / Speculation / Re: what effect have the exchange registration closures had? on: February 13, 2018, 01:57:55 PM
Question is whether our new friends that will get their accounts activated over the course of the next few weeks are still interested in Bitcoin now that its bull run has seemingly ended.

i'm gonna lean towards a no on that myself. dumb money, which usually means new money, only appears riding the final crest of the wave. it does not revive or create bull runs. it's the first to leave and the last to show up again.

True. Well, not all new money is necessarily dumb money, but I'm sure there's a fair share of people that simply want to invest in cryptocurrencies because they have increased in value, not because of their technological, economical and social implications. In that regard I guess there's little lost if these newcomers stay out of the market. Quite the contrary, it's probably better for long term stability if the only people that are left putting money into cryptocurrencies are the ones that see the bigger picture and are actually interested in this new asset class by itself.
2390  Economy / Speculation / Re: what effect have the exchange registration closures had? on: February 13, 2018, 12:15:52 PM
as far as i can tell there are still quite a few exchanges where new users can't register, which considering it's been months for a few is a surprise, and then there are others such as bitfinex that did reopen but increased the minimum amount to $10,000 before new people could start to trade. this has been going on since slightly before the peak.

what effect do you think this had on the markets since december, if any? has a huge amount new blood been denied and subsequently stopped a pump or softened the dump or would their effects have been negligible?

as far as i know there's never been a period where so many newbies couldn't get in on the action.

I think the lack of newcomers softened both the pump and the subsequent dumping of coins. Question is whether our new friends that will get their accounts activated over the course of the next few weeks are still interested in Bitcoin now that its bull run has seemingly ended.

Of course we might see a second wave of uptrend in which case FOMO is likely to hit the newcomers hard once the market gains steam again. Not sure how well this is going to end though. Maybe a new crypto winter would be a good thing after all. It tends to thin the herd of both shitcoins and get-rich-quick speculators, which in the long run would be a net positive for the crypto market's stability.


[...]

At the same time, real fiat gateways like Coinbase, Gemini, Bitflyer and Korean exchanges like Bithumb continue to onboard newbies. The last couple months of price action really just looks like classic post-bubble Bitcoin.

Kraken and Bitstamp seem to struggle with verifying new accounts though, both of which are very important for the European market.
2391  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie here, bought bitcoin, what next? on: February 13, 2018, 10:25:56 AM
Thank you Mieszko
I'm not sure, what is altcoin?

Altcoins are alternative cryptocurrencies such as Ethereum and Litecoin. If you don't know yet what altcoins are, I'd suggest staying away from them until you have read up on the matter.

Given that 0.5 BTC is no chump change, I'd recommend getting yourself a hardware wallet such as the Ledger Nano S or a Trezor.

Buy one of these wallets directly from their stores, not from any third party resellers or eBay:
https://trezor.io/
https://www.ledgerwallet.com/

For all intents and purposes, both are effectively equaly secure. Ledger is slightly cheaper. Availability may vary.

Read up on how to use a hardware wallet. Keep your wallet seed back up secure and offline. Remember that every transaction you make is irreversible. Maybe play around with small transactions before moving everything onto your hardware wallet.

Keep your money off exchanges. Stay away from cloud mining. Stay away from ICOs and alts until you really know what you're doing. Daytrading is a great way to both make and lose money. Remember that trying to get rich quick is a great way to get poor quick. Not losing money on scams and pseudo-investment is half the battle.
2392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is there a sign bitcoin won't experience higher value increase? on: February 12, 2018, 09:56:24 PM
Bitcoin's value is still volatile, while ripple and ethereum values have stabilized within a particular range value. Despite having lower values than bitcoin do you think the two cryptocurrencies are likely to gain more than bitcoin this year? Especially ripple, considering the deals it has inked with some of major financial institutions?

Ripple and Ethereum being more stable than Bitcoin? Tell that the people that bought Ripple at USD 3.77,- or Ethereum at USD 1,377.72,-. Granted, Ethereum faired comparably well, but Ripple's value got pretty much eradicated when Coinbase dispelled rumours of offering XRP trading.

Of course either could manage to grow faster in fiat terms than BTC in 2018, but so could any of the other alts. "Deals with major financial institutions" mean little these days, pretty much all of the larger cryptocurrencies have some cooperate backing. At least regarding the respective protocols, not necessarily regarding the respective coins and tokens.


Ripple seems like the coin that can stay at a stable price because there's so many coins that can be traded.

Ripple has far less markets and trading pairs than Ethereum, Litecoin, Bitcoin Cash and even Dogecoin though.
2393  Economy / Economics / Re: Thesis: Price determinants of Bitcoin on: February 12, 2018, 07:34:18 PM
[...]

 b) Closely related industry sectors, eg. NASDAQ, finance
Do you mean by closely related, sectors that make use of blockchain technology?

Thank you!!

No, I actually mean any sector that is related to information technologies, computer hardware and finance. Maybe take a look at startups in those sectors as well, although I'm not sure how much of this information is public.

As far as I know none of the American companies in this space are publicly traded yet. (Ignoring companies that simply put "Blockchain" in their name such as the Long Blockchain Corp FKA Long Island Iced Tea Corp and companies that so far only dabbled with permissioned blockchains such as JP Morgan. Come to think of it, maybe it does make sense to look at companies that only dabbled with blockchains after all.)

Other metrics that just came to my head:

1) Wallet downloads
2) Amount of visitors to Bitcoin related websites and exchanges (eg. using Alexa ranking)
3) Subscriptions to cryptocurrency related subreddits

Just throwing some ideas out there, not sure how much sense it will make for your work in practice.
2394  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How does exchanges generate addresses on: February 12, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
I'm actually more concerned about how exchanges uses their addresses instead on how they create them.
For instance I keep hearing that exchanges don't batch transactions, and because of that they spam the network and contribute for the high fees. I know they are lower now, so maybe they started doing this?

[...]

If I remember correctly Coinbase has been the only major exchange that didn't batch transactions for a long time. I think they fixed it by now, but I'm not sure.
2395  Economy / Economics / Re: Thesis: Price determinants of Bitcoin on: February 12, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
Be sure to share your thesis once you've got your master's degree Smiley

A few thoughts:

1) Take a close look at timeframes when it comes to behavioural related indicators. It has been brought up before that an increase in google searches leads to a price increase, however it is just as likely that the cause and effect are the other way round -- ie. the price drives the increase in google searches. It would be interesting to see whether either causality can be debunked or confirmed when looking at the concrete time frames more closely.

2) The following economical variables may also be interesting to look at:
 a) Gold
 b) Closely related industry sectors, eg. NASDAQ, finance
 c) alt coins (trading volume, popularity, the rate at which new coins and tokens emerge)
2396  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help with posting on: February 12, 2018, 04:23:48 PM
I really need some help, how can I post pictures here. Everytime I post one, it turns into a url. Can anyone teach me how to post an actual picture?

You will need to rank up first before being able to post pictures on Bitcointalk. Posting pictures is disabled for new accounts to alleviate spam.

Read this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0


Edit: Fixed link as pointed out by Potato Chips, thanks for the heads up.
2397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to solve electricity and pollution problems related to Bitcoin? on: February 12, 2018, 03:54:04 PM
Luckily clean energy based on renewable resources is on the rise, so with a little luck we won't need to think about this issue in 10 - 20 years.

Apart from that: One factor where Bitcoin is helping alleviate its own energy usage is the regular halving. Given a constant Bitcoin price, each halving makes mining Bitcoin less profitable, resulting in less money and thus in less energy being spent on mining.

Of course as we all know the Bitcoin price is far from constant, but assuming that Bitcoin survives the coming years and does not utterly devaluate, it is fairly safe to assume that Bitcoin price will plateau at one point. It's hard to say where this hypothetical sweet spot will lie, but at that point the energy spent on mining will likely reach a plateau as well, with hashrate only growing due to increased hardware efficiency rather than due to more money being spent on electricity.
2398  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How does exchanges generate addresses on: February 12, 2018, 11:05:37 AM
Hello Everyone,
I was wondering which method do big exchanges like binance, bitstamp, bitfinex ... generate bitcoin addresses, or any other altcoins addresses in mass for their users.
Possibly through a wallet installed in VPS then rely it to the website with json rpc as API ?

Regards,
ThisManIsTesting.


I guess most exchanges use some sort of hierarchical deterministic wallet as defined by BIP0032:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki

Hard to say though whether they use their own homebrewn implementation or base it on one of the existing implementations. Both approaches have their up and downsides, so this will likely differ from exchange to exchange and their respective tech stack.
2399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin - Recovery or bull trap v.2018 ? on: February 12, 2018, 10:47:30 AM
[...] Think of all those anxious people who are prolly wanting to drop their bags at every mini pump...  Only to buy back higher (most likely in FOMO mode) when BTC breaks out beyond 20K USD.  Grin

Assuming the bottom is indeed already in -- which I'm hopeful of, but not quite certain yet -- FOMO mode is likely just around the corner.

Assuming that the likes of Bitstamp and Kraken still need a couple of weeks to clear their backlog of fresh account verification, we'll likely have some new market participants soon enough that are just waiting for a good entry point. If Bitcoin continues its downward trend, these newcomers will likely try to time Bitcoin bottoming out. If we break upwards, however, buyers might once again get ahead of themselves but hopefully not too heavily.
2400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin - Recovery or bull trap v.2018 ? on: February 11, 2018, 06:17:03 PM
original post from 2013:
Is this the start of a recovery or a bull trap?

I'd hope for the first but I'm still confused...

Boy I sure hope we'll reach a new ATH this year, similar to 2013.

I'm cautiously optimistic right now too, seeing how USD 8,000,- is holding up fairly well with USD 6,000,- looking like a double bottom. I guess February is going to be critical. If we break below USD 8,000,- again, I doubt that USD 6,000,- will hold and the downtrend might continue. If we manage to break above USD 10,000,- however, or at least stay above USD 8,000,- until the end of the month, I think that we might actually look at an uptrend again.
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