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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why the crypto is dropping again? on: May 09, 2018, 02:32:19 PM
I thought the market is recovering, but BTC and most of alt coins are dropping again today.
Should I sell my coins?
I think this is just a price correction because I didn't find any bad news that could affect the market this week
don't panic and be consider before selling coins, so it's back to you
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people want ETH to over come BTC on: May 09, 2018, 09:25:26 AM
I don't know why people say so much about those Bitcoin transaction fees.

A simple international SWIFT costs about 45 USD and 2-3 business days.

People do those SWIFTS and never complained. Now bitcoin offers a more secure method, which costs 3-4 USD and 20 minutes, and people are crying about "high fees" "old technology"
WTF?

Ethereum is cheaper because their network has not the same volume as BTC.
Don't you remember when cryptokitties flooded their network and they had high fees?

Personally, i don't worry much about fees. Now with segwit and lightning, everything will be much cheaper.
ETH doesn't have same volume as Bitcoin? what do you mean about that? number of transactions in Blockchain?
as far as I know Ethereum Blockchain is busier than Bitcoin Blockchain, the number of transactions in ethereum network is more than Bitcoin network, you can see it
Bitcoin: https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/
Ethereum: https://bitinfocharts.com/ethereum/
243  Other / Archival / Re: Ripple still Alive even their appeal gets denied from New York court on: May 09, 2018, 06:09:04 AM
Ripple is alive and still good position even a online news publish on 19 March 2018
A San Francisco court has denied Ripple’s request to appeal the order which denied its lawsuit against R3.
News was fake ?

Claim was that  Ripple had backed out of a previous agreement that allowed R3 to purchase up to 5 billion XRP coins at $0.0085 each before the end of 2019.


Check news link :
https://ibsintelligence.com/ibs-journal/ibs-news/new-york-court-to-have-final-decision-over-ripple-r3-dispute-after-ripples-appealing-gets-denied/


I doubt the truth of this news, if this news is true then R3 have a big chance to win the dispute and very unfortunate if 5% of max supply XRP will fall to R3 moreover 5 billion XRP will be purchased cheaply
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is ico important? Virtually all new coin organize it. on: May 08, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
ICO is bullshit.
i just do not get it,why would people still fall for it to be honest ?
do they know,it does not make any sense to collect a lot of money with just an idea ? or something like that.
(even a project with an existing could scam us,how about those project without any product?)
and as we could see,most of them were scam and never deliver what they promised for.
from my perspective,
ICO's main function is to get money from people without a lot of effort backing it.
nothing more than that.
not all ICOs are bullshit.! I agree if most ICO is scam therefore should be more selective in investing do not invest if the project only offers an ideas

ICO's main function is to get money from people without a lot of effort backing it.
nothing more than that.
this function only applies to irresponsible team, many teams are working hard and their project has been successfully for example: Binance, EOS, OmiseGo, and so on
245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you relaly cared about your friends, you would suggest that they buy Bitcoins on: May 08, 2018, 09:10:02 AM
Preach on brotha! But umm I think it's hit an miss with this whole proselytizing business. Some people are just to lazy and ignorant to think outside their box or comfort zone.

What really shocks me is how often I hear people telling me they think that their money is backed by gold.  Cheesy


I also often hear many people say money is backed by gold, they don't realize that the value of their money is getting down
in my country, the country currency is getting weaker against gold,things, foreign currencies, IMO if my country currency is backed by gold should its value will not weakened against gold, I think money is backed by gold is contrasting lie
246  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: STRATEGI TRADING ANDA on: May 01, 2018, 05:22:45 PM
Halo semua,
saya mulai berdagang di pasar kripto dan saya bertanya-tanya apa strategi Anda?
Untuk saat ini saya baru memulai, saya menggunakan MA, S / R level, Fibs dan RSI terutama.
Bagaimana denganmu?
kalo saya si cuma ngandelin berita, neliti crypto yang menarik minat, mantau road map crypto yang saya minati dan analisa dari sejarah harga doang  Cheesy maklum kurang bakat kalo analisa-analisa gitu, tapi bersyukur selama ini dapet opit yang memuaskan meskipun kadang nyangkut dan terpaksa terpaksa jadi investor jangka panjang  Sad
247  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What happen if all the exchange accept ethereum as mother coin? on: May 01, 2018, 04:55:59 PM
Currently most of a exchange accepting Bitcoin as mother coin. Even they accept ethereum but not for all coin. If all the exchange accept Ethereum as mother coin, what will be happen? Is Bitcoin price will down or alt coin price will down. It will better for trader's? What you think? For me I think it will be better. Because sometime Bitcoin transaction fee is huge. Ethereum transaction fee almost low always and faster transaction.
it will be good for Ethereum and certainly trading volume for Bitcoin will go down and go to Ethereum
personally it will be good for me because it will reduce fees when I want to withdraw trading funds to my wallet

248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: KYC to receive bounty rewards. on: May 01, 2018, 04:20:37 PM
I just passing by in the Bounties(Altcoins) section to find some good project and participate to one of their campaign and there's one campaign I've visited and asking for KYC in order to receive the bounty reward.
Actually I've seen someone asking in the meta section about the this but I forgot where was it.

Well I will just going to give my opinions about here in the altcoins section because I know most of the participants of the bounty programs are posting here.

KYC (Know Your Customer)
A KYC (Know Your Customer) is used to ensure that the people who're going to invest to a project are qualified for example they have a record about criminality, immigrants, etc. This was used to review the investor and make sure they're credibility and also KYC is used to fight money laundering.

Now let's go back to the topic. I've seen some bounty programs that's asking for KYC documents in order to receive bounty I don't think it's necessary to ask KYC Documents from the bounty participants because:

1. They don't Invest in the project.
2. There's no need to ask for the credibility of the user for promoting their project.

However I've seen some people are still participating in the bounty program, I just want to know you the risk you're about to face when you submit a KYC document to a untrusted project/program:

• They may use your details to fraud.
• You may be accused for something that you didn't do.
• Etc.

Well all in the KYC documents are your personal information and It can be used to different illegal things. But after all it's the decision of the participant if he/she's going to submit KYC or not. I just want to be aware guys that you should be responsible for choosing what program/project you're going to join.

PS. I didn't say that the bounty project that's asking for KYC is scam or any fraud related, I suggest to study the project itself first as well as the team behind that.... and the reason why they need your KYC document for participating in their bounty program.
this is absolutely right, I also wonder why recently many ICOs are applying KYC to bounty participants, maybe someone knows the reason about this? it makes me more careful in choosing a project because I don't want my personal documents to be misused
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty] Shivom - The future is your genome - 4000 ETH fixed on: May 01, 2018, 03:10:02 PM
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250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will bitcoin be replace by ethereum/ripple on: May 01, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
Ethereum has been use widely for ICO purchase which have given this coin a high recognition. And also ripple has been on test for her technology in financial institutions to use since it can process trasactions than bitcoin. Will these two coins replace bitcoin and become number 1 on the coinmarketcap
This will never happen. This is how to compare gold and the currency of one country. Moreover, these crypto currencies are designed for completely different applications. And least of all, it is worth comparing bitcoin with Ripple, since Ripple is not a decentralized crypto currency.

you're wrong this topic is not about comparing different applications, centralized or decentralized, but the topic is about will Ethereum/Ripple be able to occupy top 1 in coinmarketcap, and I think it could be happen if market demand for Ethereum / Ripple can outperform Bitcoin market demand, we never know where the market demand will take sides in the future
251  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa penyebab lele koin turun dari Rp. 4000 ke Rp 20 on: April 30, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
kemungkinan ada permainan dev lele coin yang sengaja ngedump lele coin ke harga segitu atau ada beberapa investor yang sengaja ngejatuhin harga lele coin
jika ini hanya permainan dari investor maka akan ada harapan naik lagi gan tapi jika ini adalah permainan dari dev maka ini akan menjadi berita yang sangat menghawatirkan karena banyak kasus dev buang koin kemudian pergi gitu aja

saya gak ngerti , maksud agan permainan dev menjatuhkan harga koin nya sendiri untuk tujuan apa ? bukan nya seharusnya dev berusaha untuk membuat harga koin nya mahal ?
kalau dev yg buang koin itu bisa saja , mungkin karena udah banyak untung sehingga gak open lagi sama koin nya , atau koin nya ternyata gak laku di pasar .
semakin kesini semakin terasa kurang berbobot ico atau koin2 yg baru . kebanyakan hanya untuk mencari keuntungan besar secara instant . harga ico selalu jauh lebih mahal ketimbang setelah masuk exchanger .
mungkin untuk keuntungan pribadi, atau emang itu tujuanya dari awal? cuma tuhan yang tau  Cheesy
lagian ane heran kenapa awal munculnya ini coin bisa bikin heboh, sampe-sampe grup telegram rame ngomongin LELE, ane si dari awal gak tertarik sama ini coin, karena faktor nama, font logo, dan design situs aja udah bikin males buat teliti ini project
BTW ini LELE pas ICO banyak yang beli? ane kurang mantau ini project
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will waves rise to $ 10+ in the next week? on: April 30, 2018, 04:31:00 PM
Waves is less advanced in comparisson to EOS and ETH.
But if the market rises, Waves can theoretically reach $10 in the next 2 weeks.
I disagree with you, in my point of view, Waves is more advanced than EOS because Waves was built early and there are many products or features that have been created by the team
253  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] bagaimana bitcoin bisa mengurangi pengangguran ? on: April 29, 2018, 06:21:16 PM
ada banyak sekali post kawan2 saya disini yang mengatakan bahwa : "jika bitcoin legal di indonesia bisa mengurangi pengangguran".

berikut sebagian diantaranya yg saya kutip :

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Di Indonesia penganguran nya lumayan banyak klo bisa Indonesia melegalkan bitcoin supaya para penganguran nih tetap mempunyai penghasilan dalam bermaen bitcoin

Semakin banyak yg bermain semakin sedikit penganguguran

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Adanya bitcoin penggangguran jadi mengurang, dan sayapun terasa terbantuan perekonomian dengan adanya bitcoin.



sejauh yang saya tahu :

- MINING : bitcoin dan cryptocurrency lainnya membutuhkan dana yg cukup besar untuk bisa memperolehnya dan juga harus memiliki pengetahuan dunia komputer dan IT.

-TRADING , INVESTING : bitcoin dan cryptocurrency lainnya mempunyai resiko yg tinggi karena harganya sangat fluktuatif, sehingga tidak disarankan untuk kelas ekonomi pas-pasan.

jadi dari sisi mana bahwa bitcoin mengurangi pengangguran ? (sedangkan pengangguran itu adalah sebutan untuk orang yg tidak pny pekerjaan = tidak pny penghasilan)

jangan anda katakan :

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" dengan cara gabung di forum ini sehingga dapat penghasilan"

jawaban spt ini tidak menunjukkan hubungan bitcoin dengan pengangguran .

saya hanya tidak ingin kita membuat asumsi yg salah dan asumsi itu kita bagikan ke lingkungan keluarga atau masyarakat .


mari kita berbagi pendapat .



saya setuju kalo ada yang bilang gitu tapi kayak ada yang kurang kalo cuma Bitcoin yang di sebut, coba ganti jadi cryptocurrency klop dah hahaha, menurut ane secara tidak langsung itu mengurangi pengangguran gan karena kita bisa mendapat bayaran dari jasa kita, lagi pula kalo yang dulunya nganggur jadi punya kesibukan untuk ngerjain sesuatu yang dapat menghasilkan itu artinya dia bukan pengangguran lagi dong? bukanya itu sama aja dampak dari cryptocurrency itu mengurangi pengangguran ya?
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will waves rise to $ 10+ in the next week? on: April 29, 2018, 06:00:22 PM
There has been a lot of news surrounding the waves. I personally follow multiple crypto groups and almost everyone over there is buying it blindly.

There is a lot of positive news surrounding it so you can expect its price to go higher, but whether or not it would reach 10$   is still a question. But nevertheless, you can make good profit on it right now so go for it.
yes, before this news I also got a lot of positive news about waves and thank goodness I had bought waves a few days ago
Thanks for your suggestion I will be considering to sell or hold
 
Waves smart contracts have just been released to Waves’ TestNet today and waiting for the activation next week
Waves price go up 30.00% after this news was published, will waves rise to $ 10+ in the next week? What's your opinion?


Excellent news. How do you think to what results can this lead? More ICOs because of smartcontracts? More wide application? Someone else exclude price grow?
I think this is a great development and I'm interested in their expectations from waves smart contracts, I just read an article about this, and this is the source: https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-smart-contracts-what-to-expect-and-when-489563a95ca3
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Will waves rise to $ 10+ in the next week? on: April 29, 2018, 05:26:36 AM
Waves smart contracts have just been released to Waves’ TestNet today and waiting for the activation next week
Waves price go up 30.00% after this news was published, will waves rise to $ 10+ in the next week? What's your opinion?

256  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Beli Bitcoin mumpung belum melambung on: April 28, 2018, 01:53:26 PM
Selamat pagi agan agan..

Menurut News yang beredar harga bitcoin akan melambung ditahun ini, bagaimana menurut agan agan semua? apakah saat ini waktu yang pas untuk beli Bitcoin, atau masih akan ada badai lagi sebelum BItcoin mencapai harga puncak?

Silakan agan agan sharing ya, dan mohon dilampirkan News terkait harga Bitcoin.

Terimakasih.
Antara waktu yang tepat atau bukan itu tergantung tanggapan pribadi, tapi menurut saya harga saat ini cukup murah jika dibandingkan dengan harga akhir tahun lalu, dan udah beberapa minggu ini saya hemat uang harian buat belanja crypto  Cheesy , yaa saya si berharap harga Bitcoin atau Altcoin bisa pulih ke harga akhir tahun lalu
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth Worth $30. Is it possible? on: April 28, 2018, 10:56:11 AM
I am hodling few coins in an exchange and do some trading. Cut losses were fine with me 'coz I'm a bit scared of high loss, I am just playing in a safety mode.

But, while many are happy with the eth's continuously pumping and traders are happy to see the market's optimistic view, I am still here waiting for the Eth to drops heavily like at least $30. So, I can buy some and will experience the fruits of eth's benefits as well.  Cool Is it possible now, to reached down it's value like that? Like hello? I've been waiting for a couple of months. Lol

Am I the only one here, in the contrary of patiently waiting for eth to dump like hell?
maybe you should raise your target because the chance for that happen are very small, even. I think $30 is impossible because as we know Ethereum has become Top 2 CryptoCurrency and Ethereum platform is the most widely used platform for ICO project, So I think the best way is raise your target


258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do I need to say more? on: April 28, 2018, 09:15:00 AM
Taxi was doing a perfectly good job....
but Uber works better!!!

Landlines phone were perfectly good phone...
But cellphone works better...

We have Fiat but Bitcoin was introduce...
Do I need to say more?
difficult to disturb fiat because fiat is like a main weapon by the rulers, as far as I know Fiat is backed by gold but I'm not sure because its value is getting down "If compared to the goods".
I hope cryptocurrency continues to develop because I need a better tool of exchange than FIAT
259  Economy / Economics / Re: important point on: April 26, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
government that prohibits bitcoin in some countries. If the government can accept the existence of bitcoin there are some important points in it:
* can pay off the "debt" of the country
* Improve the economy of the people
* Decrease in poverty level
I want to know what you think.
I disagree with this point...because I think Bitcoin or Blockchain is technology or cryptocurrency
so.. If the government want to get your points, I think just accept the existence of bitcoin is not enough
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking to invest a large amount into TRON. on: January 06, 2018, 06:18:37 PM
the price has gone up over 1000% since December, 2017 i'm not very familiar with the project behind this token but i think the price increase is already at the top and for me this is not a good time to buy TRON
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