Actually, if someone does not pay and you open a non-payment case, they can't provide proof of payment, they get a warning on their account. If they continue to not pay for auctions, they get the account banned.

Sounds like you were unlucky.

Fake fake fake... Sad little boy

So why did you fake yours?

Sad...

First of all, other than Doge coin making fun of how Chinese translate English, what exactly do you feel it adds as an alt coin? The coin is a joke, why even compare it to any alt coins that are actually serious?

Considering that it's coming from you, absolutely. I'm yet to meet a bigger online douche, I wouldn't put any douchebaggery past you.

They do have a softcap on fee's, so basically if you sell a computer there for 3k, you're going to hit that $250 softcap. But ya, you're right, total net would be in the 2.6k range for a 3k item after Paypal fee's (another reason ebay blows).

But again, I'm not expecting anyone here to offer 3k for these. Just collecting offers to see if I can find a bulk buyer or see if there's a hardcore guy that wants Avalons that's willing to make an interesting offer of some sort. I'm sure I'd be happy to make a deal somewhere in the low 2's for someone that wants a lot of units.

I'm reasonable and willing to discuss anything fair with an interested party. I don't have any specific method set in stone or anything if that's your concern.

Impressive, you got to skip US customs in that itinerary, because that usually takes 3+ days alone. You must have slapped a diplomatic sticker on the side of that to skip customs, you sound important! I'm glad you didn't just fake some bullshit and post it up and forget to add the US customs stage to this, that might have been embarrassing. BTW, 2 days would be a new record from China, grats on that too, I'll call Guinness for you.

Get em while they're hot!

In all likelihood, yes. It's just working out the kinks and getting more coins in to circulation that's needed. Cool thing is they're easy to buy because of the bugs, but soon as the bugs are gone I think it's gonna skyrocket and be on exchanges because it's not just another shitty clone coin. Early adopters I'm certain are going to do really well in the next week or two.

I think 2 of them are batch 2 but not sure why it matters. The only difference would have been the PSU and like I said in the main post, they've all had their PSU's upgraded.

Salty,

You do post some good arguments and great points but what my retort would be:

1) You've actually convinced me (based on our earlier PM's) not to accept BTC for these since it just creates some headaches discussing BTC holding vs gains with hardware, ect. I'm just taking USD offers at this point so I can avoid that whole hypothetical conversation.

2) Selling a digital item (like BTC) on ebay and accepting Paypal vs selling Hardware are completely night and day differences in seller protection policies and charge back scenarios. When you sell physical hardware on eBay and accept Paypal, you are protected from charge-backs under seller protection as opposed to selling a virtual item, which gives you zero seller protection. You might say, well what if they just use the equipment to mine and return it 30 days later, well you can also put disclaimers in your auction that returns are not accepted, item is as is, Ebay lets you select your own return policy and only protects the buyer if you ship something significantly not as described. There's ways to protect yourself here too, such as photo documentation of the packaging and shipping process, ect. (yes, that part can be sticky but if you're diligent, you can protect yourself.)

3) Genesis block calculators don't work for assuming the value of hardware, I mean I've been playing around with it all day and you can plug the latest and greatest stuff there and it all comes back with shitty returns and tells you that your investment is a loss. People that buy mining equipment these days buy it on faith and believe that BTC is going to go up a ton. Otherwise, there's no mining equipment in existence worth buying at current prices. All of it comes back in the red very quickly.

4) I don't mind feedback and opinions here, I self moderated because of just flat out trolls that hit these threads (and seem to pretty much spend all of their time on this forum looking for threads to troll) so it's hard to have a market post up that doesn't get bloated with kiddie troll posts or derailed by people that have uninformed or biased opinions as a buyer.

5) People that buy mining equipment now typically have plans to run it indefinitely regardless of if power consumption is > profit vs current BTC price. People run mining equipment because they believe BTC price will go up, difficulty could not go up as fast for a lot of reasons and it could potentially be a good investment. It's a gamble, sure, but so is buying bitcoin for fiat. Buying mining equipment is simply buying bitcoin over time and paying for it with electricity and hardware costs. Different strokes for different folks.

In the end, people can decide what they'd like to pay for hardware. My argument here is that selling Bitcoins on eBay and selling hardware, are not comparable and don't offer the same protections or opportunies for scam artists. If stuff sells on eBay for X and it is in fact selling (which it is), that makes the market price for that right around that price. I don't think you can really argue that. The only argument here is the idea that people are running scams on sellers and I don't think that applies so much to physical hardware. I've contacted eBay just to make sure and I am correct based on my conversation with the rep.

In the end, it only takes difficulty increases taper off and BTC prices to go up to make buying mining equipment a much better option.

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Hi all,

I am selling 18 Batch 1 and Batch 2 Avalon ASIC miners. They're mining at around 84 - 86 GH/s respectively right now. All units have upgraded Corsair 800w to 850w PSU's. I am looking for USD cash offers.

Regardless of what you think about eBay and the safety of selling there, these units are going for in the 3k range give or take a few bucks. Check recently sold auctions. I'm willing to discount a bit to not have to deal with eBay (I personally hate the site and everything it stands for), so if you want to resell there and make a few bucks off me, more power to you.

Feel free to post your offer or send via PM.

Trolling posts and silly offers will be deleted.

Thanks!

Just concerning that you've had some issues/disputes with some sales and the negative speaks pretty badly from a very reputable member, nothing personal.

I'm happy to hear any proposal you have I'd just want to be fully protected if we did business. You can post here or PM what you have in mind.

First of all, pretty sure they're 180 GH/s. They were 4.5 BTC when BTC was up, I don't think they're taking BTC anymore. Also, have you tried ordering one? Good luck with that... BFL Malaysia... they won't even ship to the US.

What attracts the prepubescent trolls to the market place exactly? It's like they feel a duty to post on every thread they feel they can troll in the slightest way.

The only good thing is that this moron ignored ME, lol, thank god for that.

Note to self: Use self moderated topic next time, I can see what they have that feature here now.

Not sure what you're implying, anyone who shops on eBay is retarded...? Not quite sure I agree with you there.

As for what I want, it's just something close to what the market has been yielding for the hardware. I'm happy accepting dollars rather than BTC, doesn't matter either way.

What's 4.5 BTC anyway? BTC could be worth $200 dollars tomorrow, if that was the case I'd want a lot more than 4.5 of them. I said I want what ever the USD:BTC equal is, I never said anything about 4.5 BTC....

They're in USA, on the West Coast but your negative Trust rating is a little concerning.

Looks like about 90% of your post count is derived of troll posts/insults... what a stand up guy! Mommy must be proud!