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101  Other / Meta / Re: Little help with an abusive member: Vod - Self Proclaimed forum admin on: July 25, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
Wow. Evershawn, you really aren't helping your case. You've done nothing but shoot yourself in the foot repeatedly. You're burying the facts in hyperbole and bullshit, this is a common tactic for trolls, less so for entrepreneurs with a reputation to protect. You've done far more damage to your reputation than anyone else ever could. I mean seriously, you're comparing someone who posted unfavorable things about you on the internet, to Hitler, someone who killed millions of people, while at the same time claiming he's the unreasonable one. You need to take a look at your ranting objectively.

All the horseshit aside, this all started because you asked for a large amount of funding, and then after a few good questions, you immediately jumped to making a self moderated thread. Shady, and I can see where Vod is coming from.

I propose a compromise, you stick to a non self moderated thread, and Vod removes his feedback, since that was his initial concern.

Though truth be told I don't really care what happens here, just a suggestion as an impartial observer.

Ok Badbear, fine with me. There's no way Vod's going to go for this though, he's far too proud. Comparing Vod to Hitler might have been a bit extreme. I guess it's just because when I think about how he's been telling lies about me and trying to libel me, I just want to grab him by the throat and squeeze, I'm sure we've all had people like that really get to us. Sorry for being human.

I still don't understand why you're not bringing up the fact that Vod's been lying here (which has been what most of my posts have been trying to point out). Maybe it has something to do with fact that you've given him the power do do what he's doing being adding him to your Trust circle?

At the point Vod said he's not removing it, I starting caring much less about pushing the project forward here and a lot more about exposing him and showing people that he's lying and I didn't do what he's claiming. Vod is been lying about me since the beginning of all this, please address this if you want to start picking me apart. Try to be fair. I don't think I've been burying any facts though. I think 50% of my posts have been basically about getting Vod to simply say what post or posts I've deleted or what questions I've tried to hide, which is the basis for his negative rating (at least his most recent one). Still, to this day, he has not done that.

So, I accept your proposal to delete all this and start over with an unmoderated thread. I'll just ignore the trolls that derail, or report their posts to you guys. I can almost guarantee that Vod is far too stubborn to go for it though. At this point I'm pretty sure he just doesn't care about being wrong or fixing anything.
102  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 24, 2014, 04:46:23 PM

Oh Hi Vod!

Care to answer the question people have been asking you in like 5 threads here: What is the question or questions I deleted from my original investment topic that is the basis for your negative feedback?

Try not to dance around the subject this time and avoid it more.

I've answered the questions and you've twisted my words.  I'm done hashing this.

I've looked through a few topics regarding this, and I can see no direct answer as to what content was deleted. bitcointa.lk seems to be on a backlog and thus missing this. Please let the community know exactly what was deleted, so that we can make decisions for ourselves.

+1 - Come on Vod, you have a fellow Scam Buster asking you the same question here. Let's see a response out of you.

Even Tomatocage thinks Vod is wrong:

IMHO evershawn does not deserve a negative Trust rating based upon the reason that Vod wrote down. Evershawn's request, while lofty, seems fairly legitimate, and doesn't promise any unusually high returns (ie. 7% per week or something dumb like that), and it's really up to the potential investor to do his due diligence.
103  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 24, 2014, 04:22:40 PM

Oh Hi Vod!

Care to answer the question people have been asking you in like 5 threads here: What is the question or questions I deleted from my original investment topic that is the basis for your negative feedback?

Try not to dance around the subject this time and avoid it more.

I've answered the questions and you've twisted my words.  I'm done hashing this.

The only answer you've ever provided was "I forgot" yet were still unwilling to remove your negative feedback.

If you insist on keeping a default trust negative on my account, marking me as a scammer, you have an obligation to this community to provide answers to why if someone asks. It's this community that has empowered you to do this and if you fail to answer, abuse it and tap dance around questions, it's the community that will take it away. "I forgot" and "I'm done hashing this" won't work, because you've NEVER hashed it to begin with. Unless your idea of 'hashing' is avoiding the difficult questions.

I've never twisted any of your words, I've only directly quoted you (anyone can go read my posts on you and see this).

You sir, are avoiding the issue, because you're wrong and unwilling to correct it because of your ego and anger that I fought you on it.

Prove me wrong.
104  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 24, 2014, 04:17:33 PM
Anyone got any info whatsoever on this jackass? (Rupture)

Let's turn the tables.

Not sure why we'd want to do that. Vod is the abuser here. Rupture has never scammed anyone.
105  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 24, 2014, 04:08:16 PM

Oh Hi Vod!

Care to answer the question people have been asking you in like 5 threads here: What is the question or questions I deleted from my original investment topic that is the basis for your negative feedback?

Try not to dance around the subject this time and avoid it more.
106  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 24, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
I encourage anyone to look at that site and get some final proof of Vod being a liar. The only one that deserves any downtrust is him

Could you please explain to me where I can find this mirror site?

I'm not familiar or I already would have posted that against Vod as well to prove he's a 100% liar. Let's ask Smooth, since he's the one who brought it up.
107  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 24, 2014, 01:37:54 PM
As you can see, when it comes down to Vod being asked to pony up some facts in my case, he doesn't reply. All I have ever asked for is proof of his claims, (which I know are 100% false). He knows he has nothing to produce so he just does not reply to it.

Even if you're blindly one of his fanboys because he's busted some scammers in the past, how do you explain this?

Can you really sit there saying these are the actions of an honest person? I think not....
108  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 24, 2014, 01:21:26 PM
I would just like to point out that Vod suddenly stopped responding when he had to pony up some real evidence. Proof he's a liar.
109  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 24, 2014, 01:11:01 PM
I encourage anyone to look at that site and get some final proof of Vod being a liar. The only one that deserves any downtrust is him
110  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 24, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
Sorry everyone, I think Shawn has a little crush on me.   Wink

Seriously VOD, I appreciate that you're trying to help the community, but downtrusting someone simply because they're asking for something you think would be unwise to provide is NO REASON to downtrust someone. When people see someone being downtrusted, it implies they've scammed someone,  or defaulted, or broken some promise. Not that they've broken some untold rule that you've made up in your mind. Despite the circlejerk of similarly pointless uptrusting you've enjoyed for doing this, it doesn't "bust scams" it busts the trust system, which just makes scams more likely.

I gave him negative feedback because he was deleting questions people were asking him in his moderated thread asking for 700btc.  I've hashed this to death already. 

Best part is that this is not even true guys. I did not delete ANY questions at all. He just made that up. You ask him what questions I delete, he has no response. He makes some assumption that I did just because I had a moderated thread. If you think I'm lying, ask him what question I deleted and you'll see who the real liar is. I've asked him at least a dozen times publicly, he responded once here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704391.0 and his answer was "I don't remember" (this was only a day later BTW, so I guess he has Alzheimer's disease too)

Guy is a douche bag with a major ego, totally unwilling to admit to any wrongdoing. Especially when it's gone this far.

I encourage everyone to read the evidence I've posted against him, the lack of evidence and avoidance he's shown in response and then come tell me if this is the stand up guy he pretends to be.
111  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 24, 2014, 03:00:13 AM
Like usual, when it comes to this point, he's got nothing to say.

I'm answering questions, providing proof of any accusation I made and responding to stuff he's saying (even the silly shit about my skype on my profile, some negative I left some troll ages ago and petty tactics he's using just so he has SOMETHING to try to use). Even though he strays way off of what this arguement is about, I still respond to it for him

When I ask him to just lay down some examples for the stuff he's saying in his negative on me, he's got ZERO. He can't even provide any example of the basics he's calling me out on.

Case in point - Guy has anger issues / mental issues. His claims are false, he's simply manipulating people to 'get at me' and try to bully me for personal reasons. If he wasn't, he would have answered these simple, basic questions this time, or the past dozen times he's been asked to.

112  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: July 24, 2014, 02:53:41 AM
Only person that is dishonest is you. What post did I delete or what was I dishonest about? Please tell....

See all, when ever it comes to him stating exactly what posts I supposedly delete, he stops responding.

As you can see, I'm totally up front, willing to answer any questions and willing to prove any accusations I made, unlike him.

He's the worst sort of person you want running around playing sheriff here. Look and how he's handling this.
113  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
With dank MIA, this has been an entertaining conversation for the other forum users - so I let it go on for a while.  But you like to twist words and your reality seems a bit skewed.

Never argue with an idiot - people reading may not be able to tell the difference!   Undecided

I'm calling you out.... instead of trying to dig up other things so desperately, please touch a little on your original accusations that you made.

-There was the salary I supposedly was planning to pay myself (please elaborate on that imaginary conversation that never took place) AKA Lie 1

-There were those posts I supposedly deleted, what were those posts about again? Oh ya, you forgot a day later right? Do you have Alzheimer's disease? AKA Lie 2

-There where those lies I was spreading about users? AKA Lie 3

-There was that spamming I was doing? AKA Lie 4

But we already know that you're going to avoid responding to any of this since that's all you've been doing. Instead you don't respond to your previous accusations and you look for new things to say, like if my skype contact is public in my forum profile.... lol.... Do you think people are stupid? Do you think that people don't realize you're dodging these questions and accusations you made?

Have fun coming up with some lies for that Mr. Lawrence. I'm putting you on the spot now, answer your original accusations properly and stop avoiding them.

Called it! Yet another avoid / attempted subject change!

Answer the questions Vod.... What are you waiting for?
114  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 10:47:59 PM
You are just feeding the troll. There is no reason to keep this conversation going

Date Registered:    July 21, 2014, 05:41:38 AM
115  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Lie 3, here's you trying to say you never changed the feedback you left for me:


Nice lie, but viewing your negative feedback will show it is unchanged since 7/21 - and you continue to post lies.  Sorry scammer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=112569

Here's me proving you did:

Original feedback left on July 20th, last feedback on July 21st.

You lied again.

Read the bold part.  See the error in your accusation?  I posted the feedback has been unchanged since 7/21 - which it has been.  I did not post I "never changed the feedback".  Are you that dense Shawn?

At this point you are just trolling.  I've never lied about anything.   Roll Eyes

If you didn't do a 1,000 btc transaction, why did you post feedback that you risked 1,000 btc?   Because you are a liar.

You're an idiot. When I posted that back then I had no understanding for how the trust system worked and I thought the effect of the trust was based on what was put in that field. Because the guy was nearly as big of a douche bag as you, I put an amount in there. So ?? It clearly says in the comment what I marked him negative for, stop trying to make that in to something else when you know exactly what it is. It only makes you look dishonest and obvious.

The best part of your obviousness is that you KEEP trying to change the subject to stuff that's irrelevant to what we're discussing here. We're discussing your original accusations. You know, those one's you keep avoiding providing any explanation for?

I'm calling you out.... instead of trying to dig up other things so desperately, please touch a little on your original accusations that you made.

-There was the salary I supposedly was planning to pay myself (please elaborate on that imaginary conversation that never took place) AKA Lie 1

-There were those posts I supposedly deleted, what were those posts about again? Oh ya, you forgot a day later right? Do you have Alzheimer's disease? AKA Lie 2

-There where those lies I was spreading about users? AKA Lie 3

-There was that spamming I was doing? AKA Lie 4

But we already know that you're going to avoid responding to any of this since that's all you've been doing. Instead you don't respond to your previous accusations and you look for new things to say, like if my skype contact is public in my forum profile.... lol.... Do you think people are stupid? Do you think that people don't realize you're dodging these questions and accusations you made?

Have fun coming up with some lies for that Mr. Lawrence. I'm putting you on the spot now, answer your original accusations properly and stop avoiding them.
116  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 08:00:02 PM
Scroll up. I made a massive post showing multiple lies you have told in this thread alone along with quotes and links. What have you shown other than I have removed my Skype contact from my profile? Nothing...

Your massive post doesn't prove I lied about anything.  Can you summarize for everyone where I lied even once?

You, on the other hand, delete questions about your scam, delete personal info while saying you have nothing to hide, and lied about risking 1,000 btc in a trade gone bad,

In short, you are a liar, I am not.  That may sound childish to you, but it's the truth.   Smiley



I'm sure everyone realizes that everything you complain about now is none of the original stuff you were complaining about and you try to keep those lies out of the discussion now.

Here's one lie you just told, You say I lied about 1k btc in a trade gone bad, what did I try to trade exactly? What did I lie about in that trade exactly,  elaborate on how that went down since you know all about it, please.

I deleted my personal skype contact info from my profile, so what, I didn't lie about doing that. I did remove it, and I said I did. You're lying saying I was hiding it somehow. Lie 2

Lie 3, here's you trying to say you never changed the feedback you left for me:


Nice lie, but viewing your negative feedback will show it is unchanged since 7/21 - and you continue to post lies.  Sorry scammer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=112569

Here's me proving you did:

Original feedback left on July 20th, last feedback on July 21st.

You lied again.

Your basis for the negative trust: Deleting questions from my thread...

I don't remember what questions you deleted

Because you're a liar.

There's another dozen or so things I cannot prove as easily.

All you've got is that I deleted my Skype from public view (big fucking deal) and I left some piece of shit troll bad feedback ages ago (yet another, big fucking deal)

You've completely gotten off the topic of trying to say I was deceiving anyone in my original thread (what happened  there Vod, why aren't you trying to say stuff about that any more?)

What lies am I telling about you Vod? Can you show some of them along with the same type of proof I've provided for your lies?

Please Vod, show us something other than just you saying so.... I know you're blind with rage right now, but try to take a pill and focus for a second, ok? Provide some evidence that I have lied about either my business proposal or about my statements about your abuse.
117  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 07:33:39 PM
No matter what you say now you have been caught red handed in several lies. There's nothing you can say or do at this point to fix that.

Nice imagination.  I've never lied.  I've proven you have.  

 Wink

Wow, are you really that childish. Going to pretend that this page didn't happen and I haven't just pointed out with proof that you have been lying?

Oh well, guess it's useless to argue with if you you're going to move to 4th grade level antics.

I'll just direct everyone over here so they can see for themselves what a child and a douche bag you truly are.



lol.  You haven't pointed out anywhere that I've ever lied (I haven't).  I, however, pointed out with proof that you lied.

Send the masses here!  I welcome it.   Smiley

Scroll up. I made a massive post showing multiple lies you have told in this thread alone along with quotes and links. What have you shown other than I have removed my Skype contact from my profile? Nothing...

I'm sure you know that which is why now all you do is continue to make 'I know you are but what am I' responses like a child.
118  Economy / Lending / Re: An absurd policy on: July 23, 2014, 05:43:06 PM
Yeah but who is actually lending anymore ? Except for newbies kind enough to ask for collateral first... cough cough.
Their isnt one or 2, probably one legit lender... This isn't 2012 anymore.. Its just scammer-vile from both sides.
Lending forum is a joke and should be shutdown.

If it makes you feel better, most of the people offering loans and asking for collateral are "collateral scammers" i.e they are not going to loan anything, once you give them collateral so they can give you a loan you will not here back from them again.

Yes there are scammers on both sides. However, the nature of lending is such that the lenders (people with a lot of excess capital/liquidity) tend to be consistently active for a long term period of time, so their reputations mean a lot more.

If you stick to the experienced lenders this will not be a problem.

Furthermore, on larger deals or if there is a question of lender trustworthiness the collateral can be held by a third party.


I still lend from time to time, but only if I have sufficient collateral.  Those are getting very rare.

It's more profitable to just sit on my coins and wait for the price to rise than to lend it out.


Hi All,

Here's a few things you should know about Vod:

Vod is a malishous liar on a massive ego trip. He has in anger ruined the accounts of many innocent and trusted members of this community using solicited feedback which he has gotten from some high feedback traders.
Vod refuses answer any questions for the basis of his feedback against me and other members and has even gone as far as to change his feedback against me several times to make it sound worse and worse as I have tried to get answers from him and hash out his reasoning for doing it.
He actually said that he had 'forgotten' what I had done (just two days after it happened) and starting trying to come up with other things to accuse me of.

Here's a great example of Vod getting caught in MULTIPLE lies with proof, then acting like a 10 year old child about it afterward, trying to dismiss everything he had done and then trying to change the subject to avoid answering up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704391.new#new

Make sure to read page 2 thoroughly.

I have been an upstanding member of this community with legit trades and positive trust. Vod took it upon himself to single handedly ruin my account over something he cannot even explain to anyone.

Unfortunately some members have been fooled by a guise he's used as a 'scam buster' which is nothing more than a ploy to gain this inner circle trust rating and use it for abusive purposes.

Ask yourself if I would bother to go this far and make this post if I was not injustly and malishously attacked by this nut job.

Moral of the story: Vod lies, has some mental issues going on and should not be trusted. Please take a minute and look for yourself, there's absolutely no need to take my word for it. He's made himself look guilty and foolish plenty. Please decide if you want to trust him or take his advice. I think that you will not want to after reading that thread.

Thanks.
119  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
No matter what you say now you have been caught red handed in several lies. There's nothing you can say or do at this point to fix that.

Nice imagination.  I've never lied.  I've proven you have. 

 Wink

Wow, are you really that childish. Going to pretend that this page didn't happen and I haven't just pointed out with proof that you have been lying?

Oh well, guess it's useless to argue with if you you're going to move to 4th grade level antics.

I'll just direct everyone over here so they can see for themselves what a child and a douche bag you truly are.

120  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust on: July 23, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
I'm not a liar, and I doubt anybody believes your words.

On the other hand, it's easy to prove you're a liar... did you really risk 1,000 btc in your dealings with miter_myles?  The feedback you left him says you did.   Roll Eyes

I will have an awesome day - I always do!



Haha. Your desperation is so obvious now. Just reaching for anything you can to try to make me seem as bad or worse than you.

No matter what you say now you have been caught red handed in several lies. There's nothing you can say or do at this point to fix that.

You did this to yourself. The more you keep trying to lie and change the subject from the lies you were caught in the worse you are going to look to everyone. So please keep it up.

Wink
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