Not with this clusterfuck of an IPO...
I can't see these guys having any staying power.
What have the actual issuers of the stock done wrong? The excitement caused by the IPO was not expected by anyone, and they are rationally trying to make a fair solution for everyone instead of hastefully dumping the shares on the market. So far it has been much more orderly than Activemining's IPO. IPO's should be simple... x shares available, x bids to eat up those shares - top bids get eaten first wheres the discussion to be had? it's absurd. The problem is that the issuer has no idea when the asset will be approved, and once it is approved bidding can begin. The voting can take days or weeks, but LABCOIN was approved in less than a day. They had no chance to put the stocks up before bids were in place, but still want to honor the IPO price of .001. I commend them for standing by the original price and not just profiting of the speculators. Ken of AMC fucked up his IPO so bad (repeatedly dumping more shares at one price before undercutting himself later on, dumping 500,000 additional shares for "extra expenses" after the original NRE sold out), and yet you stand by him. Makes me wonder who you're invested in right now  +1 life is not fair, oh well. |
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I vote for the free market deciding.
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They gave no warning. IPO shares started selling at 1:50 AM in US - they said they would start during US Business day.
？？？？ lol. shares aren't even out yet. people are just bidding. |
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 I got my eyes on you. Hope you get approved soon
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BTC-TC is going mental right now, just hit 0.009.
I got some shares for .005 a few days ago and I log on to see this madness. |
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Can I get some up to date speculation on why the price is surging i don't know but all these little 50-100share asks need to drop so we can clear the way for .0075+ looks like we just hit .0075+ |
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But a large dividend funded by big hardware revenues has consistently driven the price up over the last few dividends cycles. I think this will be the last large dividend for a few weeks, so best to sell off after the dividend hits your wallet, then buy back in once the BlockEruptor v2 are being sold and Hashing Rate gets back to >20%
There must be a reason that HASHPOWER drooped!! this abnormal, since AM has the ability to deploy 39 TH,highest..they must currently doing something without notice us...whether change location or upgrade their facilities.. it is no reason for them to disappear that large amount of miners, unless if they sold it !~~~So be patient, we will see after today and weeks , eventually the answer will be merged. if they sold all devices they will give us a huge surprise, but who knows? we should be patient~~~ Best I could come up with is that friedcat didn't get rich enough and he got fried. |
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Users should get a scammer tag for posting false dividends. He tried to make us dump. LOL
I am sorry for starting this very non-funny trolling joke  classic lophie |
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 I brought this pitchfork for nothing. |
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are "TAT" and "DMS" acronyms that are not specific to just the Bitcoin world/cryptostocks?
They are ticker tags meant to let people know who is running them. Any asset I release will have TAT. on it, so you know it's me! Ohhh, does this mean that nobody else is allowed to use that tag then? Ex. is it basically "locked" to you? That is correct, however, it should be noted that I only trade on BTCT.co, Bitfunder.com, and HavelockInvestments.com currently. So if you see that tag elsewhere, it might not be me. >:] TAT.MiningASICVirtual I'm making this so I can be like those Chinese knockoff brands, Buckstar coffee. |
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If the price of VM drops to .0001 then buying them at the price you'll have 188x the dividends of AM in a week. It wont drop to that low.
I meant drops by 0.0001, not drops to 0.0001. If VM drops, from 0.0070 to 0.0069, for example, then your 420 shares have lost a total of 0.0420 BTC, which exceeds the difference between the 0.035 BTC from AM and 0.0758 BTC from VM. true but i don't see it dropping .0001 every week anytime soon. I'm just happy making .25btc a day. |
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If the price of VM drops to .0001 then buying them at the price you'll have 188x the dividends of AM in a week. It wont drop to that low.
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Well, the issue is that with the quickly rising hash-rates, it's going to become less and less valuable. While it may be 10% this month, next month it could be 3%, then 0.1%, etc.
I'm mostly trying to figure out if I should jump in on this now or just keep the BTC (based on number crunching I don't see the dividends paying off based on the current stock prices). I could be wrong, of course.
I feel that this is the biggest issue that people don't realize about VM. The dividend will get smaller, but the price of the bond will also fluctuate based on the expected dividend! So many people here are calculating ROI as if the price could never drop below the IPO price... I highly doubt this, since each share is 'equivalent to 1MH/s'.
3 BTC will buy 420 shares of VM and 1 share of ASICMINER. ASICMINER is giving about .035btc/week, and the VM would give you 420 * .00003223 * .8 (20% difficulty increase) * 7 days = 0.0758 BTC/week. Even with difficulty calculated it will still outperform AM shares. |
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Create an account with BTC-TC and transfer funds over. Go to the TAT.Virtualmine and buy it. The IPO is 0.007. The dividends are sent to your wallet on the exchange. https://btct.co/security/TAT.VIRTUALMINE |
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Hmm, based on the current dividend rate, it's a 230 or so day ROI (assuming no difficulty increases -- which we already know is false). I'm wondering why people are still buying into this.
Is there something I'm missing? If the dividends are already at 230 day ROI, and are going down every week or two... I don't see it breaking even for a couple years if it does at all.
The thing you're missing is, try to find anything else that gives you a better deal. If you try mining yourself you'll have to deal with preorders that may or may not come. You can buy AM USB or Blades which is cheaper than these shares but you'll have to keep it running for a while at your own expense. How about investing in AM shares? They won't pay nearly as much in div/cost for a long time from what it seems. The BTC investing market is the most profitable and, if you want, you can go on wall street and do stocks with a 7% return a year. Right now, even with difficulty increase, we are getting over 10% a month. Find anything in the world that will give you over 10% a month and I'll be glad to follow you into it. EDIT: I do realize that starting a business might be a good idea depending on the business. I get to sit on my ass and get 10% a month. Well, the issue is that with the quickly rising hash-rates, it's going to become less and less valuable. While it may be 10% this month, next month it could be 3%, then 0.1%, etc. I'm mostly trying to figure out if I should jump in on this now or just keep the BTC (based on number crunching I don't see the dividends paying off based on the current stock prices). I could be wrong, of course. It will definitely not drop to 3% next month. In order for that to happen difficulty will have to increase to 72,000,000. I'd say you don't to worry about that for a good 7 months if it increase 20% each cycle. Of course you can always mine using the USB miners and resell them on ebay at a later date. mmm, I may jump in on this then. It's much cheaper to get into than USB miners, and without having to do any extra work. Was just afraid of getting in on it and never seeing the full ROI, :p. You can always sell it at anytime. I think its easier to sell these than it is for physical miners. I do consider these to be undervalue for the dividends it pays out compare to everything else. The virtualmine in BTC-TC needs love. I'd buy those shares but don't have to BTC till next week. |
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Hmm, based on the current dividend rate, it's a 230 or so day ROI (assuming no difficulty increases -- which we already know is false). I'm wondering why people are still buying into this.
Is there something I'm missing? If the dividends are already at 230 day ROI, and are going down every week or two... I don't see it breaking even for a couple years if it does at all.
The thing you're missing is, try to find anything else that gives you a better deal. If you try mining yourself you'll have to deal with preorders that may or may not come. You can buy AM USB or Blades which is cheaper than these shares but you'll have to keep it running for a while at your own expense. How about investing in AM shares? They won't pay nearly as much in div/cost for a long time from what it seems. The BTC investing market is the most profitable and, if you want, you can go on wall street and do stocks with a 7% return a year. Right now, even with difficulty increase, we are getting over 10% a month. Find anything in the world that will give you over 10% a month and I'll be glad to follow you into it. EDIT: I do realize that starting a business might be a good idea depending on the business. I get to sit on my ass and get 10% a month. Well, the issue is that with the quickly rising hash-rates, it's going to become less and less valuable. While it may be 10% this month, next month it could be 3%, then 0.1%, etc. I'm mostly trying to figure out if I should jump in on this now or just keep the BTC (based on number crunching I don't see the dividends paying off based on the current stock prices). I could be wrong, of course. It will definitely not drop to 3% next month. In order for that to happen difficulty will have to increase to 72,000,000. I'd say you don't to worry about that for a good 7 months if it increase 20% each cycle. Of course you can always mine using the USB miners and resell them on ebay at a later date. |
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Hmm, based on the current dividend rate, it's a 230 or so day ROI (assuming no difficulty increases -- which we already know is false). I'm wondering why people are still buying into this.
Is there something I'm missing? If the dividends are already at 230 day ROI, and are going down every week or two... I don't see it breaking even for a couple years if it does at all.
The thing you're missing is, try to find anything else that gives you a better deal. If you try mining yourself you'll have to deal with preorders that may or may not come. You can buy AM USB or Blades which is cheaper than these shares but you'll have to keep it running for a while at your own expense. How about investing in AM shares? They won't pay nearly as much in div/cost for a long time from what it seems. The BTC investing market is the most profitable and, if you want, you can go on wall street and do stocks with a 7% return a year. Right now, even with difficulty increase, we are getting over 10% a month. Find anything in the world that will give you over 10% a month and I'll be glad to follow you into it. EDIT: I do realize that starting a business might be a good idea depending on the business. I get to sit on my ass and get 10% a month. |
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