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241  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ✅[ANN] Tachyon Protocol - Protokol internet terdesentralisasi | 50 Juta Pengguna on: January 21, 2020, 12:25:51 PM
Kalau dilihat dari laporan minggu ke 12 sepertinya pengembangan aplikasi android yg lebih cepet persentasi pengerjaannya dibandingkan dengan yg lainnya, apa mungkin tim Tachnyon mau merilis semuanya secara bersamaan ya?
Aplikasi android lebih mudah menarik minat masyarakat mulai dari kaum remaja atau dewasa gan karena vpn adalah senjata dalam berinternetan untuk menembus situs situs yang di block.Btw padahal ini baru aplikasi versi aplha sudah banyak yang tertarik menggunakan nya gan.
liat banyak yg tertarik dimananya om soalnya dari indo belom ada yg coba untuk versi alpha ini masih takut sih sebenarnya mau cba ,pada lagi nunggu full launching aja di playstore
yang di maksud agan 2tang itu "aplikasi android mudah menarik minat masyarakat". bukan menjelaskan banyak yang tertarik pada beta alpha yang belum full rilis ini. kalau liat banyak yang minat tinggal di cek di playstore kan disitu ada jumlah unduhan kalau banyak yang tertarik. apalagi VPN gratis pasti banyak yg download tau sendiri kan maksudnya Cheesy
242  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [BOUNTY][HDX]Token Hydax - Token EXCH Paling Berharga - EXCH Sedang Berlangsung on: January 21, 2020, 10:35:05 AM
TIM nya aja masih sebuah prediksi ya untuk mencapai $0.1? agak ragu sih kalau menurut saya. hati hati saja, menurut saya harga saat ini aja masih terbilang tinggi, karena saya lihat chart pernah dump sampai $0.001
intinya jangan kemakan FUD.
gitu yah gan,kirain ngadain bounty,tapi harga awal dari HDX ini $0.1 kan, kmarin sempat dengar kalau timnya bakalan mempertahankan itu, tapi dump jga.
baru denger saya ada sebuah proyek menjanjikan tentang mempertahankan harga, itu sulit dilakukan mereka akan kewalahan kalau mainnya begitu, berarti mereka bisa mempermaikan harga. apalagi harga awal $0.1 dan skrg hampir turun 80%. balik lagi ke perkembangan proyek kalau memang bagus nilai akan mengikutinya dan bergerak sesuai investor yang yakin pada koin ini. kalau ada news bagus biasanya kan ngaruh ke harga.
243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I Buy Bitcoin Now? on: January 21, 2020, 08:47:54 AM
Anyway, this year has to believe that it has a great deal for everyone...
Exactly, everyone is hoping that this another year will be a better year compared to the previous years, particularly in 2018 and 2019.

2020 will have a big chance to be a better run for btc compared from the last few years because we entered the year with a vvery positive run and upward direction of price. Everyone is even expecting a new all time high that will break the december 2017 all time high.

Everyone? I don't think so. I'm not expecting an all time high. And i'm pretty sure neither of the majority holding bitcoin expects that as well. It's foolish to expect that much as you're more likely to succumb to emotional decisions when the opposite of what you're expecting happens. Buy bitcoin but have a realistic reason for it. This year may be good, it can also turn sour. Manage your expectations.

maybe people think it's because halving happened this year, but I also in 2020 did not expect a new ATH, because I see from the history of halving. the increase will occur about 300 more days after halving occurs. that means there will not be an immediate high increase this year. most of those holding certainly expect a high rise and that is realistic in my opinion. because anything can happen in bitcoin.
244  Economy / Speculation / Re: When is the perfect time to sell BTC? on: January 21, 2020, 07:00:09 AM
There is no perfect time to sell, but you must have a target to sell. Suppose you want to sell when bitcoin price touches $20k or $50k or even $100k. because you've holding long enough, so wait until the next halving, I hope history repeats it so that it can go above $20k.
agree with you, we must to have a target to sell our bitcoin. think again what the purpose from we buy and sell bitcoin, to get profit in long term or short term.. it back to yourself. when you hold and sell your bitcoin in long term you can get more profit but it need long time, in short time you can get fast your profit.
of course we will never know the highest bitcoin price will achieve, like 2017 who would have thought that selling at $19,000 was a perfect time.
then this year halving will happen again, whether it will make a new ATH so we know that selling over $20k is a perfect time. The point is the target, if we reach the target it means you sell in perfect time, no regrets after selling it.
245  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [BOUNTY][HDX]Token Hydax - Token EXCH Paling Berharga - EXCH Sedang Berlangsung on: January 21, 2020, 05:20:23 AM
mempertimbangkan bahwa pembagian bounty masih agak lama, dan pumpnya benar-benar tinggi, ini pergerakan yang bagus dari HDX exchanger. bagaimanapun, saat ini harga kembali ke $0.01x lagi, namun jika potensi untuk pump nya ada ketika harga bitcoin naik, maka HDX mungkin akan memiliki harga sesuai IEOnya ketika harga bitcoin diatas $10k. tapi, ini hanya spekulasi, kenyataannya hargnaya tidak bertahan lama.
Pembagian bounty agak lama gimana maksudnya gan? bukannya token untuk bounty sudah dibagikan tapi secara bertahap dan masih 40% dan hydax gak ada IEO atau sejenisnya jadi wajar kalo harga sekarang jauh dari prediksi tim yang mengatakan $0.1
Mungkin maksudnya pembagian token Bounty yang 40% itu gan, ane juga belum tau kapan tanggal pasti pembagian bounty selanjutnya akan dilakukan. Untuk harganya saat ini memang sangat cocok untuk menyetok token HDX, siapa tau nanti rate HDX kembali menjadi $0.1 seperti prediksi para Tim.
TIM nya aja masih sebuah prediksi ya untuk mencapai $0.1? agak ragu sih kalau menurut saya. hati hati saja, menurut saya harga saat ini aja masih terbilang tinggi, karena saya lihat chart pernah dump sampai $0.001
intinya jangan kemakan FUD.
246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin touch 9k USD next month? on: January 20, 2020, 04:25:10 PM
At the moment the price of bitcoin is at 8,600 USD, it has reached 9,100 USD in recent days but it has quickly fallen again. Maybe it's because of the whales that keep bitcoin under control so we have to be careful because it might just be a bull trap. We do not know when the price of bitcoin will rise so we should be prepared and buy bitcoin only when prices fall.
For me, it wasn't whales that keep btc under control. It seems you forgot about traders selling point. Movement like this is pretty normal and obviously not made by whales. It's expected for price to fall upon reaching a price point. If it was made by whales, the price reaction won't be like this but look the price is pretty fine after that fall and didn't even cause a panic or maybe that's just how I view the situation. They are pretty confident that we're still in good run despite of that fall.
You are right, the current movement is very normal, there are still around 4 months before halving so if bitcoin increase very high it will be too fast if it happens at this time. the price may still be a correction and strengthen the support at 9-10k. I hope the price will stable above 10k before halving occurs. because I'm sure there will be a lot of FUD ahead of halving.
247  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [BOUNTY][HDX]Token Hydax - Token EXCH Paling Berharga - EXCH Sedang Berlangsung on: January 20, 2020, 08:12:47 AM
sangat mengejutkan kenaikan harga token HDX yang kemarin sempat dump sampai harga $0.001 kemarin pump sampai harga $0.04 dan hari ini high price $0.035 dan low price 0.01. Beruntung yang membeli pas harga $0.001 dan menjual kemarin saat harga $0.04
memang enak sih trading hdx ini gan selisih buy dan sell nya lumayan tinggi dan skrang sepertinya mulai naik lgi karena waktu itu dumm gara2 pembagian dari airdropnya
Selisih harga jauh begitu sudah bisa dipastikan bot yang bekerja gan, ane baca2 di Telegram Indonesia nya,
disana sudah ada yang buktikan kalau itu memang bot. Kita harus mampu mencuri peluang ketika bot bekerja.
bot dalam dunia perdagangan itu sudah biasa, yang penting kita tidak FOMO atau kejebak gara2 bot, ambil momen kalau emang harga lagi turun atau ketika lagi naik sama bot ya jual.
248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 20, 2020, 06:31:57 AM
Not a surprising result for me again about Liverpool this time, I'm sure they will win the game even against ManU because after all, Liverpool this season is better than the previous season so it is not surprising for me they get 3pts again and again.

Against any team Liverpool will win because they are used to it and this is again Liverpool's ambition to win perfectly. Then who is scared of Liverpool I think there is no? So it's not surprising, but Liverpool are the best team of the season because their skills while playing make it long to move so that they win again and get points rivals.

Unfortunately, Leicester must lose again to low-team Burnley FC.

Liverpool has defeated all EPL teams and only need 10 more wins to Champion, anyone who goes to Liverpool they will always make a profit, I'm sure Liverpool will continue to win the match and they will make an unbeaten record until the end of the season. I hope they can beat the Arsenal record in 2003-2004 with 49 matches unbeaten.
249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 19, 2020, 04:22:13 PM
yesterday none of the big teams won. Will the same thing happen tonight? Even Chelsea again suffered defeat at home to Newcastle. This is a very exciting week in the English premier league. I really hope Manchester United make a surprise tonight by holding a draw or beating Liverpool. Even though this seems very difficult to happen.

the odds for manchester united are very big @7.6, probably most people will try their luck by taking Mancester utd and among them maybe most fans of manchester united. while the odds for liverpool @1.45, the market has predicted it seems difficult to beat liverpool at home.
Predictably, Liverpool is championed to win. But this week is very strange if you pay attention. Just now Leicester lost against Burnley. I think there are enough opportunities open for Manchester United to beat Liverpool. Or at least they can force Liverpool to draw
there is no chance at all in my opinion, you can see how when Manchester United play at home against Liverpool, they are quite difficult. especially now at Anfield. Everyone who goes to Manchester United will just throw away their money. but if it's just to try luck it's not wrong, because luck is always there.
250  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][BOUNTY][[BazToken][BAZ][BAZOOKA - Platform Investasi Terdesentralisasi] on: January 19, 2020, 02:43:24 PM
Kalau hanya kompetisi biasanya yang dipilih hanya 3 sampai 4 orang saja. Jadi penasaran juga sama harganya nanti apakah bener bisa bertahan lama adengan harga 1 usd
Harga sekarang Baz di etherflyer 0.193 usd gan.tentu kalau bertahan bukan 1 usd melainkan pumd 100% gan. Market QB exchange juga tidak familiar gan saya pikir tidak akan berpengaruh besar pada kenaikan harga walaupun ada kompetisi trdaing airdrop yang di lakukan pihak Bazooka.
kompetisi trading mungkin hanya akan memperbesar volume, tapi kalau untuk harga bertahan di 1 usd tentu itu sulit, kalaupun di pump tidak akan tahan lama pasti banyak orang yang jual.
251  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are the real reasons of recent BTC rally? on: January 19, 2020, 01:12:56 PM
I saw your thread about halving and I saw it was quite in accordance with current conditions, that 2020-2021 would be the peak, more precisely 2021 would be the highest peak if I saw the halving before. I really hope history can repeat it. most people who want to push bitcoin price down may have needs such as wanting to get the lowest price, even though in my opinion the price below 10k is still very cheap when compared in the future or the peak in 2021.
thank you for wanting to see and visit my thread, but I am not quite satisfied with that, I want to see the highest price in Q1 2020 for bitcoin and other crypto markets, if it develops and prices increase at the beginning it will be very good for the future, I need look at the next few weeks to get the highest price prediction analysis for next year, let's look at it later
if before halving has increased quite high, does that mean halving in 2020 has a fairly high hype? People think it will go further than 2017. Because many famous influencers predict prices can go as high as $ 100,000. but true, let's look at the beginning of the month in 2020, whether it can faster to touch above $10k.
252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How we can introduce bitcoin to local people on: January 19, 2020, 07:13:13 AM
The easiest way so that other people can be interested in bitcoin, we can start from giveaway or airdrop even bounty to make them interested in using bitcoin. Because most people will be interested if given money for free. This way will be easy to attract them. You can spread it on your social media sites like Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. Usually after that they will ask more deeply about bitcoin.

Would you consider bounty as giving free money? I rather not, because you need to exert effort and time, basically you are working to earn and people doesn't like that if that is the way for us to introduce crypto to them. In addition, airdrops most of the time, aren't really providing money, I've joined allot of airdrops before but only few provides good amount for an airdrops, and still many, have really low value. So to consider, introducing bitcoin to local people is much more effective with the traditional market advertisement by simple showing them bitcoin logo with merch's that we have.

by seeing my success they will ask questions about what I have done, I often get questions like that, because I just stay at home not working but have lots of money.
and here I introduce bitcoin to some friends and the neighbor. I gathered several people who were interested to come to my home like I did a presentation in front of them. I think this method is very easy because people will be surprised if you always stay at home and have a lot of money.
253  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are the real reasons of recent BTC rally? on: January 19, 2020, 06:07:14 AM
the right reason and many people in this forum know is that we are approaching bitcoin halving, if not mistaken precisely in May 2020, so they assume that every 4 year cycle often occurs where bitcoin prices often increase before and after halving, but there are other factors if in the analysis it might be because we are entering a weekly trend if prices don't go below $ 7600 until the next week
so far that might be one of the reasons, many people on this forum talk about halving which can make prices rise very high, so it's likely that many people do FUD.
other than that the market was already bored with the previous year which was bearish, and the positive trend came at the beginning of the year so it was like a bullish sign ahead of halving.
like what I think people who don't believe in this cycle are trying to make a mess since yesterday, if they want the price of bitcoin to go down it seems like their lives are just throwing money away, just look at 2018 and 2019 is the year when the bear market is in power, they want 2020 and 2021 to be the bear market, then why would people invest in bitcoin and crypto if the market continues to be a bear market, if indeed the cycle does not want to be repeated the bitcoin price since 2018 and 2019 should not be a bear market, charts should change but not at all, it is clearly similar to 2014 and 2015 bear market, it seems like people have started to be pushed behind us to take bitcoin on the exchange soon
I saw your thread about halving and I saw it was quite in accordance with current conditions, that 2020-2021 would be the peak, more precisely 2021 would be the highest peak if I saw the halving before. I really hope history can repeat it. most people who want to push bitcoin price down may have needs such as wanting to get the lowest price, even though in my opinion the price below 10k is still very cheap when compared in the future or the peak in 2021.
254  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN](ICO) Orionix - Comission Free Games And Items Exchange on: January 18, 2020, 12:13:16 PM
yang jadi permasalahannya tidak ada thread dari exchange tersebut di forum ini, jadi susah mencari kebenarannya.
saya juga baru dengar tapi setelah saya cek itu udah ada sejak 29 Nov 2017 yang berdomisili di hong kong. tapi memang bakalan sedikit sudah untuk menarik investor, soalnya market tidak familiar.
Walaupun dengan minimnya informasi dari exchange ini, volume mereka lumayan juga sebenarnya dan data pada cmc sudah lengkap, Orionix mau ngadain IEO lagi di exchange ini yang jelas lebih baik daripada shortex
yang saya maksud data minim itu masalah exchange shortex yang di anggap scam oleh Orionix. kalau menurut penglihatan saya market yang udah terbentuk tahun 2017 itu sampai saat ini volume nya masih terbilang tidak terlalu besar dan itu akan berdampak pada IEO Orionix, coba lihat aja IEO sebelumnya disana bagaimana. kita tunggu saja hasil selanjutnya yang penting progress mengumpulkan investor terus berjalan.
255  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN](ICO) Orionix - Comission Free Games And Items Exchange on: January 18, 2020, 08:33:23 AM
Biasanya sih seperti itu gan, kebanyakan team sebuah proyek tidak tau tentang Board Scam Accusations bahkan jika proyek mereka dibahas disana sekalipun.
Untuk IEO yang akan dilakukan di Fex exchange sepertinya team masih menunggu konfirmasi pihak Fex exchange terkait tanggal pasti pelaksanaan IEO nya, yang pasti IEO akan dilakukan disana dan juga bakal listing disana nantinya.
Team sebuah proyek tentu mengetahui jika ada isu negatif yang melanda mereka gan karena setiap proyek memiliki tim di bidang masing masing,namun ada juga tim yang tidak peduli dengan isu tersebut seperti kebanyakan proyek yang kita lihat selama ini.
Fex Exchange ane baru dengar market ini,seperti nya masih baru ya gan,ieo di market baru sedikit susah untuk menarik investor,
yang jadi permasalahannya tidak ada thread dari exchange tersebut di forum ini, jadi susah mencari kebenarannya.
saya juga baru dengar tapi setelah saya cek itu udah ada sejak 29 Nov 2017 yang berdomisili di hong kong. tapi memang bakalan sedikit sudah untuk menarik investor, soalnya market tidak familiar.
256  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are the real reasons of recent BTC rally? on: January 18, 2020, 06:59:13 AM
the right reason and many people in this forum know is that we are approaching bitcoin halving, if not mistaken precisely in May 2020, so they assume that every 4 year cycle often occurs where bitcoin prices often increase before and after halving, but there are other factors if in the analysis it might be because we are entering a weekly trend if prices don't go below $ 7600 until the next week


so far that might be one of the reasons, many people on this forum talk about halving which can make prices rise very high, so it's likely that many people do FUD.
other than that the market was already bored with the previous year which was bearish, and the positive trend came at the beginning of the year so it was like a bullish sign ahead of halving.
257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I Buy Bitcoin Now? on: January 18, 2020, 05:46:47 AM
If you will ask many people if you should now buy bitcoin, most of their answers will be yes. It really depends on tge situation, if the market is still in bearish, I do not prefer to buy bitcoin but the current situation of the bitcoin is now in the market reversal where we are now seeing highers highs and lower high which is a good sign that we are now in an uptrend. The best time to buy bitcoin is in the beginning of the bullish trend.
I know that during the last days we have seen an important recovery in the price of bitcoin and everyone is happy because of it but I am seeing a lot of indications that the price may go down during the next days and the price may experiment a correction, I am not saying the price is going to crash or anything like that, I am just saying that it could be a good idea you could wait for that correction to happen and then once the price goes down then you can buy bitcoin for a cheaper price.
why the price will make a correction? I don't think bitcoin price will increase very high right now, is there any hype before halving occurs so its makes bitcoin increase? but I didn't see it from halving before. usually it increases after halving occurs. but it is very possible that there will be a FUD before halving occurs. we also never know the price that is said to be low, if you look at the future, the current price should be said to be cheap because it is still below 10k.
258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 18, 2020, 04:16:37 AM
La Liga Week 20 will be opened by a match between Leganes vs Getape. Both teams are ranked very contrary. Leganes are struggling to get out of the relegation zone. Getape is at the top of the table. I predict the match will run exciting and Getape will win with a very thin goal difference.

there was nothing interesting about that match, there were still lots of matches and there was still plenty of time to fight from the relegation zone. the more interesting was certainly the match of Real Madrid vs Sevilla between ranks 2 and 4. But statistically, Real Madrid never lost against Sevilla at bernabeu. will this be an easy win? I hope so that Real Madrid continues to compete with Barcelona.
La Liga is not only Real Madrid and Barcelona. We can enjoy all the matches if we really like football.
Real Madrid will win against Sevilla. The match will be played at the Bernabue so surely Madrid will not want to be embarrassed by defeat.

In La Liga, football does not have the same brilliance, in recent years it has been better, not only because of Ronald and Messi, but other stars.
Sevilla have always been a tough opponent in La Liga, as much as Real has a home pitch, but over time, Sevilla gave the greatest resistance to Real and Barca, and always made a good and interesting game. I'm not sure Real will win, but the draw sounds good.

I'm sure most people when speaking la Liga they will remember Barcelona and Real Madrid that is a fact, I enjoy it when I see big team games.
indeed since Ronaldo left, the competition was not too exciting in my opinion. at the moment I even see that the point is already quite equivalent there is no dominance far enough from Real Madrid and Barcelona.
259  Economy / Speculation / Re: When is the perfect time to sell BTC? on: January 17, 2020, 04:14:21 PM
There is no perfect time to sell, but you must have a target to sell. Suppose you want to sell when bitcoin price touches $20k or $50k or even $100k. because you've holding long enough, so wait until the next halving, I hope history repeats it so that it can go above $20k.
260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 17, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
La Liga Week 20 will be opened by a match between Leganes vs Getape. Both teams are ranked very contrary. Leganes are struggling to get out of the relegation zone. Getape is at the top of the table. I predict the match will run exciting and Getape will win with a very thin goal difference.

there was nothing interesting about that match, there were still lots of matches and there was still plenty of time to fight from the relegation zone. the more interesting was certainly the match of Real Madrid vs Sevilla between ranks 2 and 4. But statistically, Real Madrid never lost against Sevilla at bernabeu. will this be an easy win? I hope so that Real Madrid continues to compete with Barcelona.
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